(Please watch) how the slave trade really happened part 1

[juuttuubi]

If we are sensible enough to assume that mankind originates ftom Africa namely up the river Nile from Ethiopia, THEN we may also say that one of the first sins ie. slavery was also invented in Africa, whereby we still have monuments of slavery called pyramids. If we may further in our assumption to say that we originate from the same father and mother ie. the first of mankind (there has to be first before second), THEN we ALL are responsible for the acts of enslavement.

[szubanator]

I CANT LISTEN TO THIS COMPUTER VOICE. MAYBE I'LL READ IT SOME OTHER DAY. hOW ABOUT A REAL VOICE PLEASE

[Born2Flesh]

The false Jews and Arabs started the slave trade, not Europeans. 

[barlog20]

Markellion are you aware of the Jewish invovlement in Slavery and how the fact that they funded it?

[w8p8]

what about the arabs???/ they enslaved 10 times as many..... When you wake up and realize that blacks enslaved each other... People can stop telling me i owe them something

[infox1000]

@w8p8 Slavery in African socities wasn't chattel slavery.

[necromanzee]

the boring computerised voice stopped me watching what could have been an interresting subject.

[billyslo87]

I have a question. If Africa was so good, as most Africans like to say, then why did European and American companies, like John Hancocks, have the policy that no slave could be deformed in any way? And if they were not deformed in any way then why would it be necessary for these shipping businesses to advertise their shipment as all of the slaves on board are in good health, strong etc.

[KingsleyEnnis1]

End the unemployment crisis. Put millions of NIGGERS back to work. Vote to repeal the 13th Ammendment.

[TheArcher85]

@KingsleyEnnis1 End Diseases and War in the world. Send Europeans back to the Caves where they belong. Or just wait for the sun flares to get bad. The you disgusting Leprous will have no choice to go back where you originated from.

[jumpingonglass]

@KingsleyEnnis1 I'll blow your face off...and I won't miss. Army 7 yrs

[KingsleyEnnis1]

Ahhhh, the good old days !!

[samprior1985]

i would of watched it if that computerized bitch didnt give me a headache within the first 5 seconds

[sn00piedog]

One Day AFRICA will not be a SHAME and we will uncover it's true HISTORY

im from Algeria and when ever ppl find out its in AFRICA they think were all poor when theirs nice places in alot of african countries like Zambia, South Africa, Libya, Algeria.

[congobigp]

I agree with Debby that one of the things missing in the analysis of Du Bois is that they exclude the human factor. Craving for Power is something that is innate in human beings. I don't know about the rules of war in societies of the gold coast but war was a means in our regions to acquire land. exyterminating or enslaving other groupings were never the aims. wars could then be settled through negociations. That is in theory, this doesn't take into account deviant leaders who crave power.

[congobigp]

The other thing is that human sacrifice must have existed in a minute form. The total corruption of the leadership and local actors shouldn't be overexagerate. My point is that European involvement was the important factors but not the only one all of these go hand in hand.

[markellion]

Robin Law's argument wasn't that human sacrifices and war were a new thing, his argument was that these became increasingly more brutal and frequent and this was linked to the expansion of the slave trade

Also this change seems to be in the latter half of the 17th century. Earlier the slave trade was just a bi-product of wars naturally going on. My argument is that the wars were motivated by the desire to sell captives after the mid 17th century

[markellion]

I'm going to make a new series to replace some of my older videos. The one video I have in the series so far is:

"Trans-Atlantic Slave trade part 1 Introduction"

This shows that the wars were motivated by the desire to sell slaves

With the high prices the English were offering for slaves, General William de la Plama (1704) wrote "So that the Negroes seeing this, now pay more attention to the slave trade than the gold trade, as they do better by it."

[markellion]

My theory is that wars in places all over Africa increased significantly during this period, the mid 17th century. John Newton wrote:

"I verily believe, that the far greater part of the wars, in Africa, would cease, if the Europeans would cease to tempt them, by offering goods for slaves"

[markellion]

Again, this doesn't mean the slave trade introduced war to Africa. It means that increased war in the mid 17th century can be explained by the slave trade

[markellion]

An order to supply so many slaves there would have to be allot of violence but this pertains to areas that were exporting so many slaves

You said once your region wasn't affected by the slave trade

[congobigp]

In the south and little bit centre of the region people were affected but I'm further north. And yes I agree supply of slaves can surely hppen with violence.

[markellion]

Yes because remember slaves are from wars on the coast or slaves exported from the interior. To supply over 100,000 slaves a year there has to be a huge amount of brutality in African societies.

There is no conceivable way the slave trade could have gotten that huge without a change in many African societies

[markellion]

The fact that many places in Africa are less populated than other places in the world comes from the slave trade. Africans were the greatest farmers in the world so there is no reason why they would have a smaller population

This goes into the far interior too like in the case with the Lunda who were involved in the slave trade

[congobigp]

And I think you include the transaharan/arab trade as well. The interior had it's limit. People such as mine not being affected.

[markellion]

"And I think you include the transaharan/arab trade as well"

No because Livingston and others said that the Arabs did not have the wealth to carry on the slave trade

[congobigp]

@markellion Livingston lived in the 19th century we are talking about a trade that started more than 10 centuries earlier. And don't forget we are talking about 19th swahili coast but this doesn't apply everywhere. Even on the swahili coast there things that can be mentioned.

[agricolae101]

@markellion That's bullshit...most of the wealth from the America's that funnelled through Spain went straight to arab countries.

In fact Islam has many stories about these african slaves converting to Islam and being set free, and reading the call to prayers from the minorets.

[MultiSolucion]

@congobigp in the 1640 where arabic king wanne abolisme but europa not wanne hear this so what happen to the king and his nation they capture and selling them,,, , that are white ppll do dutch still have the power , like white power the klux klux bilderberg weird secrets dutch meetings ,, also white ppl is the economic shell oil department weir and remarkeble find information in wikipedai or google.. praise the lord..

[deborahbetty58]

mythology. However, when artefacts are found, we have a choice either we see the object for what it really is, or we manufacture a story around it, because of our preconceived notions. But when it becomes too much of a confrontation to our identity of assumptions, we just hide it as OOPARTs in dusty cellars of museums.

[deborahbetty58]

Hmmm... two sides of the many coins in history. It's basically a human trait to romanticize the past. In order to hold on childlike sentiments of perfection and even because of an out of proportion, sense of guilt. None of us can change the past. And just as on a personal level, to deal with the pain of guilt out of inadequacy, we edit the stories and images in our minds. On a collective scale, it becomes media driven politics, politics become dubious accounts, stories, legends and finally

[markellion]

Still the slave trade did much in promoting violence in the societies it effected. A link to the article is in the descriptions box.

[deborahbetty58]

I know, I am not denying or excusing those hard core facts. I was just thinking how we deal with individual and collective attrocities, in Biblical terms called sin. Shalom :-)

[markellion]

Robin Law, the author, is perfectly objective

"More generally, whatever may be true of the rest of Africa, evidence from the Slave Coast does seem to bear out the Abolitionist view of an increasing, rather than a diminishing scale of warfare. Although the earliest accounts of the area do of course allude to wars, the sources offer a clear enough impression that by the 1690s the scale and frequency of wars on the Slave Coast was significantly greater than earlier."

[deborahbetty58]

Human greed, fed by the taste of blood, like the hunger/craving of a vampire, it is never satisfied, for ever making more victims.

[MultiSolucion]

@deborahbetty58 teir wil be more vitictims , vs are gone do that they wanne stiil the iol of africa , white ppl are never ever satiusfy with their properties and economic they wanne more , do you no are3 the white gus the dutch pll are are steal land murder the indians they steal countrie make their own propertie teal black ppl . for fraa labor salary , but dutcj ppl ahev in the whoel world land properties watch out ,,,, like white power ... bilderberg is a secret white ppl company .

[deborahbetty58]

Thanks for the reference :-)

[markellion]

This is not out of proportion countless!

African rulers were complaining about the British attempts at abolition. They wanted to continue ravaging their neighbors selling them to the white man rather than developing their own country.

It is the fault of the European slave traders that this disgraceful situation happened in the first place.

[MagicalWheelies]

@markellion But that is the question, no? The fact that Africans were intricately involved in maintaining and prolonging the slave trade brings about the notion of "black guilt," as opposed to "white guilt," in reference to African Americans today whose ancestors sanctioned slavery (like the ancestors of some American whites sanctioned slavery). The question of whether slavery/chronic warfare was already being practiced in Africa before the Europeans arrived remains to be categorically resolved.

[MultiSolucion]

@deborahbetty58 One day white ppl dutch also rooselvelt president is from the dutch name ... thei wil be in the guinnes book of record, for the longest recodar not give the landownership back. they killed 1000 indians their are thiefs in products in land /countries properties/ and day we have provement how cruel and cheat and telling lies white pll dutch praise the lord

[Azzaiel]

love the chat man, great job as alway markellion

[moebigsley1976]

Great info!

[markellion]

Thanks. I uploaded this because some people can't download the article