Very impressive! There is absolutely no reason why such a high performance wing cannot be built today! I suggested this concept, over 10 years ago as a form of downhill 'high-speed gliding (akin to down-hill skiing). Murray Rose messed up this concept(downhill speed hang gliding) Guy Westgate even 'deemed my 'ideas as Loony Toony!
If any designers require an 'all -axis test pilot- I am very broad minded!
@Hitmanz52 The wing itself was designed using empirical formulae and a search algorithm written in C. The 3D shape of the wing was built in Pro/ENGINEER then imported into 3D Studio MAX for rendering, so it's not actually a simulator you're seeing here. Bear in mind this was around 10 years ago so there may well be better tools out there now.
@straighttailpilot I never got as far as designing control surfaces for this wing. With a traditional (vertical) rudder, you want it as far to the rear as possible to get the greatest turning moment. So with designs where the sweep of the wing puts the wing tips behind the fuselage this makes sense. Otherwise, on the fuselage makes sense. There are other designs, like spoilers on the wing tips...creating more drag on one wing tip than the other to create the yawing moment.
@straighttailpilot The vertical stabilizers are positioned on the wing tips because they are the farthest "point" back from the CG. The rear sweep already adds dihedral/rudder like stability but the rudder on the wing tips is like frosting on a cake.
@GreenAce92 I understand why the sweep. but Ive noticed on either flying wings or Canards the rudders are always on the tips EXCEPT for one airplane that has a canard delta wing with a t tail elevator and rudder configuration. dont ask me who made it. its a race plane for the formula 1 at reno. so I alwayls wondered. I have spoken to other aerodynamics experts and they tell me these configurations are usually horrible for crosswind landings.
@straighttailpilot The tips on the end are to provide lateral stabilitly, without them it 'slides' sideways. The nearest example I can give you is a boat trying to tack without a keel, it just slides sideways. I fly model flying wings (Zagis) and lost one wingtip in combat, it made flying interesting ! I then lost the other one and the wing became unflyable. Hope this helps.
@straighttailpilot an extra 300 has its main spar running across the fuselage just in front of the cockpit as most of the wing is forward of the pilot, the point i was making about this video is that the wings sit either side of the cockpit and as main spars cross over and are then held together with large pins in gliders this would be smack bang in the middle of the pilots seat thus leaving no room for the pilot! an obvious flaw in the design of this flying wing.
@matthewisstrange well actually you right. cantilever wings have to have a spar running across. if not it needs support from somewhere. I hadnt thought about Cantilever vs. struts.
hola alex me a gustado mucho tu video. me podrias decir cual es la banda sonora.hello my name is saved, I like so much your video .. could you tell which is the soundtrack?.
@dieoma100 It's a statically-stable design...you can achieve that with either twist along the wing or a reflexed aerofoil profile. Check out the related videos in the sidebar for some real flying wings.
Actually, this is the result of a computer program I wrote to design a flying wing for my degree dissertation back in 2001/2002. I created the video using 3D Studio Max (model exported from pro/Engineer). I'd love to build a scale R/C version of it one day.
@alexrabarts In that case, i guess i could understand. But reflexed wings push the center of gravity forward, And thus having more weight in the back would make such a wing tail heavy. If i was to put money on it, It wouldnt fly because the CoG is too tail heavy. However, i know that there are airfoils that can be used to defy this. Great designs never the less.
@iamsam87v CoG is calculated and taken account of in this design. There's actually a fair amount of fuselage forward of the wing and the rear section doesn't count for much as it's light (behind the pilot is empty and simply there to reduce drag). Thanks for watching!
I think I'll be happier in a more standard glider.
Avatar230594 3 months ago
Flying A Horten Wing would be a great honour too!
doffincodger 3 months ago
Very impressive! There is absolutely no reason why such a high performance wing cannot be built today! I suggested this concept, over 10 years ago as a form of downhill 'high-speed gliding (akin to down-hill skiing). Murray Rose messed up this concept(downhill speed hang gliding) Guy Westgate even 'deemed my 'ideas as Loony Toony!
If any designers require an 'all -axis test pilot- I am very broad minded!
doffincodger 3 months ago
Is that Condor?
Fredi2721 3 months ago
How did you model/ animate this??
DHubert777 3 months ago
@DHubert777 I think thats the soaring Simulator Condor. But I don't know. In Condor you can fly online with others
Fredi2721 3 months ago
Google "sb 13" ;)
Martr0x 4 months ago
This is cool, but I was hoping it was footage of the SB13 arcus
Flyzguy 5 months ago
@Hitmanz52 The wing itself was designed using empirical formulae and a search algorithm written in C. The 3D shape of the wing was built in Pro/ENGINEER then imported into 3D Studio MAX for rendering, so it's not actually a simulator you're seeing here. Bear in mind this was around 10 years ago so there may well be better tools out there now.
alexrabarts 5 months ago
design question. Why no rudder on the center of the fuselage. I have noticed most flying wings or canards have rudders on wingtips. why is this?
straighttailpilot 7 months ago
@straighttailpilot I never got as far as designing control surfaces for this wing. With a traditional (vertical) rudder, you want it as far to the rear as possible to get the greatest turning moment. So with designs where the sweep of the wing puts the wing tips behind the fuselage this makes sense. Otherwise, on the fuselage makes sense. There are other designs, like spoilers on the wing tips...creating more drag on one wing tip than the other to create the yawing moment.
alexrabarts 7 months ago
@straighttailpilot The vertical stabilizers are positioned on the wing tips because they are the farthest "point" back from the CG. The rear sweep already adds dihedral/rudder like stability but the rudder on the wing tips is like frosting on a cake.
GreenAce92 6 months ago
@GreenAce92 I understand why the sweep. but Ive noticed on either flying wings or Canards the rudders are always on the tips EXCEPT for one airplane that has a canard delta wing with a t tail elevator and rudder configuration. dont ask me who made it. its a race plane for the formula 1 at reno. so I alwayls wondered. I have spoken to other aerodynamics experts and they tell me these configurations are usually horrible for crosswind landings.
straighttailpilot 6 months ago
@straighttailpilot perhaps it is simply aesthetics then I am by no means an 'aerodynamic expert' yet ... haha working on it
GreenAce92 6 months ago
@straighttailpilot The tips on the end are to provide lateral stabilitly, without them it 'slides' sideways. The nearest example I can give you is a boat trying to tack without a keel, it just slides sideways. I fly model flying wings (Zagis) and lost one wingtip in combat, it made flying interesting ! I then lost the other one and the wing became unflyable. Hope this helps.
dmzagi 3 months ago
i take it that the pilot has no legs because the wing joiners would run straight through the middle of the cockpit!
matthewisstrange 9 months ago
@matthewisstrange not really. A wing doesnt have to run through the cockpit. look at the extra 300. or most of the cessnas too.
straighttailpilot 6 months ago
@straighttailpilot an extra 300 has its main spar running across the fuselage just in front of the cockpit as most of the wing is forward of the pilot, the point i was making about this video is that the wings sit either side of the cockpit and as main spars cross over and are then held together with large pins in gliders this would be smack bang in the middle of the pilots seat thus leaving no room for the pilot! an obvious flaw in the design of this flying wing.
matthewisstrange 5 months ago
@matthewisstrange well actually you right. cantilever wings have to have a spar running across. if not it needs support from somewhere. I hadnt thought about Cantilever vs. struts.
straighttailpilot 5 months ago
@matthewisstrange The spar runs behind the pilot's back or under his gluteus
conestogaman 5 months ago
Прикольно было бы полетать на планере типа "летающее крыло"!
VadiaRotor 11 months ago
hola alex me a gustado mucho tu video. me podrias decir cual es la banda sonora.hello my name is saved, I like so much your video .. could you tell which is the soundtrack?.
jsalva99 1 year ago
hola alex me a gustado mucho tu video. me podrias decir cual es la banda sonora..
jsalva99 1 year ago
@jsalva99 It's from The Thomas Crown Affair remake - I think it's called Glider Part I
alexrabarts 1 year ago
@alexrabarts it's not gonna be able to fly in real life though cuz of it's balance
dieoma100 1 year ago
@dieoma100 It's a statically-stable design...you can achieve that with either twist along the wing or a reflexed aerofoil profile. Check out the related videos in the sidebar for some real flying wings.
alexrabarts 1 year ago
cool! is this the fms sim or a different one. I'd like to get that model. did you use a screen recorder for this?
daveyedgar 2 years ago
Actually, this is the result of a computer program I wrote to design a flying wing for my degree dissertation back in 2001/2002. I created the video using 3D Studio Max (model exported from pro/Engineer). I'd love to build a scale R/C version of it one day.
alexrabarts 2 years ago
@alexrabarts In that case, i guess i could understand. But reflexed wings push the center of gravity forward, And thus having more weight in the back would make such a wing tail heavy. If i was to put money on it, It wouldnt fly because the CoG is too tail heavy. However, i know that there are airfoils that can be used to defy this. Great designs never the less.
iamsam87v 1 year ago
@iamsam87v CoG is calculated and taken account of in this design. There's actually a fair amount of fuselage forward of the wing and the rear section doesn't count for much as it's light (behind the pilot is empty and simply there to reduce drag). Thanks for watching!
alexrabarts 1 year ago
@alexrabarts
Hi nice plane check the german Horten planes, you dont need to build a model. These guys did that in the 1930 - 1940s.
pilotjonny 7 months ago