If I ever had to go through this, I wouldn't just 'not forgive' my parents, but I'd probably kill them. That's no word of a lie, I wish I could do something to help, but I honestly don't know of anything
@djspiderweb It just makes me sick to hear that they are a big popular business. most of them are run by mormons (like wwasps) because one of the religious beliefs is to be widespread as possible.
@Trollingbutryingnoto the worst that it got in the Utah place was some ppl cheeked pain pills and one or two managed to sneak in some weed while a staff supplied some extra. but one person wanted to leave so the came clean and 30 people got in trouble, several sent to jamaica, and the staff were fired. now the worst that it gets is the upper levels are full of themselves but that is the same thing as american polititians so not much different there. i was the high lvl that cared for the lowbies.
@Trollingbutryingnoto maybe in the out of country ones since they are more people that are more dangerous and i could imagine that in some of the places when there are no child protection laws that that could happen, but that would not happen in the U.S. unless it was a student do it. the most successful and secure program in the U.S. is in utah, but i know of others that are flawed and have behind the scene sex and drugs.
clearly they dont know that those are the programs for the more serious offenders. the one i went to, the most violent it got was if the student tried to hurt some one or themselves. in which they would restrain you. and how they did this is the had your stomach on the ground and layed on your back till you were calm. i was restrained and it never hurt me. the only thing that sucked was having to listen to the most boring educational tapes every day. and the rules were strict.
Chase was in my group at CCC, he was moved to mexico for a few months. I remember the day he came back, he was covered in dirt from head to toe, lost over 40 pounds and ate like he was starving. The staff at CCC did not like Chase and he was treated unusually cruel. DO NOT SEND KIDS HERE PEOPLE!!! WTF
Was at scl for 2 years. I was never physically abused but the mental abuse was insane. The sadest thing is my parents are still completely brainwashed and think they did the right thing. I do give props to my friend who when getting "transported" in the middle of the night decided she wasn't gonna go quitely and stabbed the fuckers and tried to run with handcuffs on in an airport. Didn't work but it was an awesome gesture.
I was personally kidnaped from my bed with a 103 temperature at 1:30am January 10th 2000 & was held against my will threw September 1st 2000 - if I can assist in any possable way or if you wish to contact me -
please do so .. Livin.way2real@yahoo.com you have no idea what I've been threw.. I've blocked it out & wouldn't speak of it until now- 11years later- & I still wake up swinging almost every night- I probably won't be the same person I was prior to W.W.A.S.P -cross creek Utah
Tips for victims of abuse on pursuing compensation:-
U.K victims of abuse at WWASPS schools or any foreign school might succeed in pursuing compensation at Leigh Day Solicitors, or Irwin Mitchell Solicitors. Jordans Solicitors also specialize in U.K abuse cases. You might be eligible for legal aid funding and if you win your case you don't pay anything. If you lose however you might have to pay for the court fees of the other side... U.K Govt don't offer any lawyers to help which is very sad.
You goddamn bastards better not come near me or i swear i'll shoot you. And obviously i would get away with defending myself! You fucking pricks sicken me and should never be allowed to kidnap children like that no matter what! ITS JUST GODDAMN MONEY!. And you parents!!! You should never be allowed to have a child! Who would pay someone to beat they're child and make them hurt themself?!?!
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT TELL WHATEVER THE /FUCK/ IT IS YOU TELL YOURSELF TO SLEEP AT NIGHT AND WORK AT THESE FUCKING PLACES
God I am filled with utter RAGE at not only these people BUT THE GODDAMN PARENTS. CHILDREN GO THROUGH SHIT ALL THE TIME; IT'S NATURE. TRYING TO CONTROL THAT MAKES SHIT SO MUCH WORSE AND I -HOPE- THEY FUCKING REGRET IT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
I bet many parents who send their kids to these programs are overwhelmed with guilt and probably will NEVER be trusted nor forgiven by their children ever again.....
If you allow the Program to work with you and use the Seminars to your advantage youll be good to go. If your on your face in OP usually its because you told someone to go fuck themselves. Lets keep it real.
I was in Jamaica at Tranquility Bay from 2000 to 2002. I was in Unity under Mr.Ricardo. Mr. Serf, Mr. Powell, Mr. Spence. I had Mrs Myers as my counselor. First of all these programs arent that bad. If you work with the system and use it to your advantage than you are fine. If you Fight the system and play games it will be hell. I was there i saw people get stabbed girls hang themselves. etc. But a lot of people change due to the experiences there.
Hopefully, more important newspapers will start to pick this up, but as the editor of SPSU's newspaper, I would like anyone who wants to contact me at stingeditor@gmail.com. I am writing an article. As long as you don't have anyone more important to talk to, please talk to me.
Anyone associated with these kinds of programs, the kidnappers, parents should be charges with child abuse! There is no rational excuse for these so called 'programs.' Anyone who would defend these actions is the worst kind of scum!! eeerl 4 you are a moron and should not reproduce!
@beatnikjd now the programs they showed here are for the worst kids, the ones that are too violent for the other more peaceful programs to hold. even then they are better than going to jail. even if they beat you then it is still better. jail is full of murderers and rapists. if you look at some one wrong they will just kill you. what is shown here they just restrain you in a very uncomfortable way. i went to a peaceful program and they restrain if you are violent. i was almost sent there.
@thedougman2008 The programs are NOT for the most violent kids... you could be sent there is you did not listen to rules at a previous program. There is never a reason for this punishment. Anyways what "peaceful" program did u attend?
@cathy2earth the people that i saw go to that place had run plans to attack the staff to get the key cards. or kids smuggled in drugs, or took 6 staff to hold down to keep from getting hit, then almost me for violent run plans and attacking staff and students. i came to my senses two days after i got caught. the place i was at is the only one that can be trusted to work... Cross Creek Program. some ppl do fake it, but you cant run and violence gets you mildly restrained or sent to those places.
Lmao it doesnt matter if you obey or not the rules, under any circunstance any person is entitled to beat or mistreat another. Hell not even assasins sentenced to death are allowed to be tortured, much more less trouble teens.
I can't believe this shit. I saw a movie called boot camp and now i find out it's true? Jesus christ, I am so sorry to the people who've been there. I CANNOT imagine how horrible it is. I was in a mental ward for personal reasons and i thought it was hell but it was nothing compared to this. I truly am sorry to all the people who've been there. :(
@xwtfdude a few other movies that were made by survivors are OVER THE GW and also AARON BACON both by Nick Gaglia. You should check out some links on youtube of the congressional hearings this is a good one
this is a wide spread issue that has to be stopped.
I just came back from one in Utah. I still have flashbacks of being transported. I saw things in that treatment center no one should ever have to experience...
@morgannmunro what programs were u at. I was at Provo Canyons School in Orem Utah. I have alot of good survivor sites that I am willing to give you or if you need help feel free to contact me. You can write me here on youtube and i will give you alternative emails and sights remember you have all the control now
@morgannmunro hahahahahahaaaaa... you are given the choice of going calmly or to resist. i chose the calm way. though i did like the idea of hand cuffs. now if they woke you up and started forcing you around i am quessing you resisted. so you chose the hard way. also it is the parents that give consent, they arent kidnapped. it is a stricter version of boot camp. it is for the worst that got caught whose parents want them to stop. my transporters were quite nice.
@morgannmunro copper hills or provo canyon? Ive heard some fucked up shit from those, and almost went to copper hills but ended up in a nicer one called teton peaks.
I was in Paradise Cove, Samoa, and Casa by the Sea, Mexico. Looking back, im glad i went. Not everything was easy, but i am a better person for having gone through that experience.
@rocbola what does grow up mean? accept things for how they are even if they're fucked up! you're just one of those "programmed" losers i had to deal with in jamaica. do you feel good knowing that you are a total bitch and let those scammers get over on your family. you are weak
@boonehouston I had a 2-year, rough experience when i was a teenager, but im almost 30 now. Being angry now is pointless. If i let a bad time from 12 years ago rule my life now, then i'd be weak. Im happy and it seems you cant say the same. Life is hard, you can either handle it, or you cant. You can either live your life, or sit back and cry about how hard you have it, but since you chose the "sit back and cry" approach, please dont call anyone else "weak", it makes you look like i hypocrite.
@rocbola Are you kidding me?!!! I was in Paradise Cove... how can you ever say that was a good thing for you? The only thing that Singalele Beach ever taught me was that when I joined the military, I knew that boot camp was fun compared to that beach. I was on both beaches and also the mountain... but to say you are a better person? WHAT?!!! Did you not go through what everybody else did? Did you not see what everybody else saw? You must hear Zig Zigler 24/7 these days to say that!!
i went to Academy at ivy ridge for 13 months.i saw shit go on there that was horrible.hearing kids screaming from being "restrained". it was the worst 13 months of my life
Its shit like this that will turn those kids to violent crimes in there adult lives.
IanRoantree 6 days ago
If I ever had to go through this, I wouldn't just 'not forgive' my parents, but I'd probably kill them. That's no word of a lie, I wish I could do something to help, but I honestly don't know of anything
Lemmzes 1 week ago
Anyone seen the movie sleepers lol
rulesforrebels 1 week ago
wwasp programs basically torture kids. its sick what i had to go through at ivy ridge and other people too. these people need to be punished
hbomb2704 2 weeks ago
If anyone else went to cross creek between 03-05 contact me! We need to do a documentary
SeherCinema 2 weeks ago
i saw a movie called boot camp today. i can't believe they actually have these camps. :(
djspiderweb 2 months ago
@djspiderweb It just makes me sick to hear that they are a big popular business. most of them are run by mormons (like wwasps) because one of the religious beliefs is to be widespread as possible.
marlyonama 1 month ago
Big buisness? Brat camps should be banned in the US, cause no other country that i know of in the world has this.
marlyonama 2 months ago
@Trollingbutryingnoto the worst that it got in the Utah place was some ppl cheeked pain pills and one or two managed to sneak in some weed while a staff supplied some extra. but one person wanted to leave so the came clean and 30 people got in trouble, several sent to jamaica, and the staff were fired. now the worst that it gets is the upper levels are full of themselves but that is the same thing as american polititians so not much different there. i was the high lvl that cared for the lowbies.
thedougman2008 4 months ago
@Trollingbutryingnoto maybe in the out of country ones since they are more people that are more dangerous and i could imagine that in some of the places when there are no child protection laws that that could happen, but that would not happen in the U.S. unless it was a student do it. the most successful and secure program in the U.S. is in utah, but i know of others that are flawed and have behind the scene sex and drugs.
thedougman2008 4 months ago
clearly they dont know that those are the programs for the more serious offenders. the one i went to, the most violent it got was if the student tried to hurt some one or themselves. in which they would restrain you. and how they did this is the had your stomach on the ground and layed on your back till you were calm. i was restrained and it never hurt me. the only thing that sucked was having to listen to the most boring educational tapes every day. and the rules were strict.
thedougman2008 4 months ago
Oh yeah....find another way!!!
Liberty969 5 months ago
It's always about money.....but they pretend to have good intent..... sick bastards....
Liberty969 5 months ago
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Fucking bitch, sending her kid to prison.
I wanna kill these mother fuckers who run this shit.
Your kid is your kid. fucking cunts.....
PaulMFliebler 5 months ago
Fucking bitch, sending her kid to prison.
I wanna kill these mother fuckers who run this shit.
Your kid is your kid. fucking cunts.....
PaulMFliebler 5 months ago
check out a movie called "Sleepers" starring Kevin Bacon. You will know what to do after watching this movie :)
soupy2 6 months ago
Chase was in my group at CCC, he was moved to mexico for a few months. I remember the day he came back, he was covered in dirt from head to toe, lost over 40 pounds and ate like he was starving. The staff at CCC did not like Chase and he was treated unusually cruel. DO NOT SEND KIDS HERE PEOPLE!!! WTF
Jessetsi 6 months ago
uhg i can remember when i was held at hotel carara in costa rica......... such a strange time
darkperson3200 7 months ago
Was at scl for 2 years. I was never physically abused but the mental abuse was insane. The sadest thing is my parents are still completely brainwashed and think they did the right thing. I do give props to my friend who when getting "transported" in the middle of the night decided she wasn't gonna go quitely and stabbed the fuckers and tried to run with handcuffs on in an airport. Didn't work but it was an awesome gesture.
ProgramPixie8 8 months ago
I was personally kidnaped from my bed with a 103 temperature at 1:30am January 10th 2000 & was held against my will threw September 1st 2000 - if I can assist in any possable way or if you wish to contact me -
please do so .. Livin.way2real@yahoo.com you have no idea what I've been threw.. I've blocked it out & wouldn't speak of it until now- 11years later- & I still wake up swinging almost every night- I probably won't be the same person I was prior to W.W.A.S.P -cross creek Utah
future0fAmerica 8 months ago
Tips for victims of abuse on pursuing compensation:-
U.K victims of abuse at WWASPS schools or any foreign school might succeed in pursuing compensation at Leigh Day Solicitors, or Irwin Mitchell Solicitors. Jordans Solicitors also specialize in U.K abuse cases. You might be eligible for legal aid funding and if you win your case you don't pay anything. If you lose however you might have to pay for the court fees of the other side... U.K Govt don't offer any lawyers to help which is very sad.
GlobalPrison 8 months ago
That is DISGUSTING! Why are these not shut down?! Just makes me sick!
RainWave13 8 months ago
MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY... ITS A SCAMMMMMMMMM
THEY BANK OF YOUR KIDS PROBLEMS.
FIND ANOTHER WAY
NinjaKirk 8 months ago
You goddamn bastards better not come near me or i swear i'll shoot you. And obviously i would get away with defending myself! You fucking pricks sicken me and should never be allowed to kidnap children like that no matter what! ITS JUST GODDAMN MONEY!. And you parents!!! You should never be allowed to have a child! Who would pay someone to beat they're child and make them hurt themself?!?!
MrCodename4711 8 months ago
Thanks capitalism!
professornuclearbomb 9 months ago
speachless thats all I can say I am speachless
Stargate404 9 months ago
Fixing over time you know?!?!? What a stupid bitch.
TheStolen 9 months ago
How can this and other movies about those facilities not have 10mio+ views???
And silly movies like a "baby fart" gets them?
This world is so sick and disgusts me.
stfunoobkty 9 months ago
Holy shit! Even Hitler probably wouldn't have kidnapped and tortured children for money!
DammitSpah 9 months ago
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I DARE YOU TO TRY AND FUCKING KIDNAP ME, DO IT COME ON, I WILL KILL ALL YOU HOMOPHObES
doctorgeek0 9 months ago
I DARE YOU TO TRY AND FUCKING KIDNAP ME, DO IT COME ON, I WILL KILL ALL YOU HOMOPHOPES
doctorgeek0 9 months ago
wow, anything with "wasp" as part of its name tends to lean toward the evil
weird
AshForte 9 months ago
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT TELL WHATEVER THE /FUCK/ IT IS YOU TELL YOURSELF TO SLEEP AT NIGHT AND WORK AT THESE FUCKING PLACES
God I am filled with utter RAGE at not only these people BUT THE GODDAMN PARENTS. CHILDREN GO THROUGH SHIT ALL THE TIME; IT'S NATURE. TRYING TO CONTROL THAT MAKES SHIT SO MUCH WORSE AND I -HOPE- THEY FUCKING REGRET IT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
HalleyEstabrooke 9 months ago
FACEPUNCH!
fuzzy987321 9 months ago
drama drama drama
EERL4 9 months ago
TYPE: livelinks on google, enter that site , then in the search type tranquility bay..... this will answer a lot of questions
lukesimas 10 months ago
I bet many parents who send their kids to these programs are overwhelmed with guilt and probably will NEVER be trusted nor forgiven by their children ever again.....
VikingLady219 1 year ago 5
@VikingLady219
They don't deserve to be.
xenteko 8 months ago
@xenteko You are right about that! Parents who do stuff like this are more than likely to die old and alone in some sub-par nursing home.....
VikingLady219 8 months ago
If you allow the Program to work with you and use the Seminars to your advantage youll be good to go. If your on your face in OP usually its because you told someone to go fuck themselves. Lets keep it real.
3o5Miami 1 year ago
I was in Jamaica at Tranquility Bay from 2000 to 2002. I was in Unity under Mr.Ricardo. Mr. Serf, Mr. Powell, Mr. Spence. I had Mrs Myers as my counselor. First of all these programs arent that bad. If you work with the system and use it to your advantage than you are fine. If you Fight the system and play games it will be hell. I was there i saw people get stabbed girls hang themselves. etc. But a lot of people change due to the experiences there.
3o5Miami 1 year ago
si eso te paso XehanortNobody pruebalo, o por que creerte?
EERL4 1 year ago
HAH! The Brits are laughing their asses off at us. Nice nice.
vaeviticus 1 year ago
i was the victim of this shit for years. i still have issues with taking deep breaths 3 years later because of having my ribs cracked so many times
dangerdave678 1 year ago
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Hopefully, more important newspapers will start to pick this up, but as the editor of SPSU's newspaper, I would like anyone who wants to contact me at stingeditor@gmail.com. I am writing an article. As long as you don't have anyone more important to talk to, please talk to me.
goldfishlaser 1 year ago
Anyone associated with these kinds of programs, the kidnappers, parents should be charges with child abuse! There is no rational excuse for these so called 'programs.' Anyone who would defend these actions is the worst kind of scum!! eeerl 4 you are a moron and should not reproduce!
beatnikjd 1 year ago 19
@beatnikjd now the programs they showed here are for the worst kids, the ones that are too violent for the other more peaceful programs to hold. even then they are better than going to jail. even if they beat you then it is still better. jail is full of murderers and rapists. if you look at some one wrong they will just kill you. what is shown here they just restrain you in a very uncomfortable way. i went to a peaceful program and they restrain if you are violent. i was almost sent there.
thedougman2008 4 months ago
@thedougman2008 The programs are NOT for the most violent kids... you could be sent there is you did not listen to rules at a previous program. There is never a reason for this punishment. Anyways what "peaceful" program did u attend?
cathy2earth 4 months ago
@cathy2earth the people that i saw go to that place had run plans to attack the staff to get the key cards. or kids smuggled in drugs, or took 6 staff to hold down to keep from getting hit, then almost me for violent run plans and attacking staff and students. i came to my senses two days after i got caught. the place i was at is the only one that can be trusted to work... Cross Creek Program. some ppl do fake it, but you cant run and violence gets you mildly restrained or sent to those places.
thedougman2008 4 months ago
the title does not match, it is no kidnapping , parents have the right to do what is best for the child at the moment. programs do help.
EERL4 1 year ago
@EERL4
Is having beign beaten up to the ground for not obeying the "rules" is any kind of help?
XehanortNobody 1 year ago
@XehanortNobody sorry but I do not believe you beaten up for not obeying the rules
EERL4 9 months ago
@EERL4
Lmao it doesnt matter if you obey or not the rules, under any circunstance any person is entitled to beat or mistreat another. Hell not even assasins sentenced to death are allowed to be tortured, much more less trouble teens.
XehanortNobody 9 months ago
and people call me paranoid
crossbower1 1 year ago
Too bad Kevin Bacon and Brad Pitt weren't held there...lol...if you seen the movie sleepers you'd find that funny
jamaicabound123123 1 year ago
fuck tb thay can all fuckin die
luckygirloes 1 year ago
To the posters who were at these WWASP schools here is a *HUG*, given that were not allowed to give or receive them at the camps.
jrcasselman 1 year ago
@jrcasselman Just what kind of hug are you implying?
tapeitnow 1 year ago
@tapeitnow Inmates at these camps were not allowed to hug one another. So I jst gave a cyberhug to someone who needed it.
jrcasselman 1 year ago
Carolina Springs Academy ruined my life!
cccCCCccc123ccc 1 year ago
@cccCCCccc123ccc *Hugs* given that you were not allowed them at camp.
jrcasselman 1 year ago
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xwtfdude 1 year ago
I can't believe this shit. I saw a movie called boot camp and now i find out it's true? Jesus christ, I am so sorry to the people who've been there. I CANNOT imagine how horrible it is. I was in a mental ward for personal reasons and i thought it was hell but it was nothing compared to this. I truly am sorry to all the people who've been there. :(
xwtfdude 1 year ago
@xwtfdude a few other movies that were made by survivors are OVER THE GW and also AARON BACON both by Nick Gaglia. You should check out some links on youtube of the congressional hearings this is a good one
this is a wide spread issue that has to be stopped.
cathy2earth 1 year ago
I just came back from one in Utah. I still have flashbacks of being transported. I saw things in that treatment center no one should ever have to experience...
morgannmunro 1 year ago 25
@morgannmunro what programs were u at. I was at Provo Canyons School in Orem Utah. I have alot of good survivor sites that I am willing to give you or if you need help feel free to contact me. You can write me here on youtube and i will give you alternative emails and sights remember you have all the control now
cathy2earth 1 year ago
@morgannmunro hahahahahahaaaaa... you are given the choice of going calmly or to resist. i chose the calm way. though i did like the idea of hand cuffs. now if they woke you up and started forcing you around i am quessing you resisted. so you chose the hard way. also it is the parents that give consent, they arent kidnapped. it is a stricter version of boot camp. it is for the worst that got caught whose parents want them to stop. my transporters were quite nice.
thedougman2008 4 months ago
@morgannmunro copper hills or provo canyon? Ive heard some fucked up shit from those, and almost went to copper hills but ended up in a nicer one called teton peaks.
sigilofbolias 1 month ago
@morgannmunro yep me too, cross creek? worst experience of my life
SeherCinema 2 weeks ago
fuck that pig i hope someone whos not really the parents sets him up as he removes the child so he can sit in prison
pentaxsubversion 2 years ago
1 year IVY RIDGE. only 13 years old then. damn worst year of my life, and
*roachocinco*, you were prob. hearing me lol
stolfis12 2 years ago
I was in Paradise Cove, Samoa, and Casa by the Sea, Mexico. Looking back, im glad i went. Not everything was easy, but i am a better person for having gone through that experience.
rocbola 2 years ago
@rocbola you were one of the weak ones who let them brainwash you
boonehouston 1 year ago
@boonehouston Grow up
rocbola 1 year ago
@rocbola what does grow up mean? accept things for how they are even if they're fucked up! you're just one of those "programmed" losers i had to deal with in jamaica. do you feel good knowing that you are a total bitch and let those scammers get over on your family. you are weak
boonehouston 1 year ago
@boonehouston I had a 2-year, rough experience when i was a teenager, but im almost 30 now. Being angry now is pointless. If i let a bad time from 12 years ago rule my life now, then i'd be weak. Im happy and it seems you cant say the same. Life is hard, you can either handle it, or you cant. You can either live your life, or sit back and cry about how hard you have it, but since you chose the "sit back and cry" approach, please dont call anyone else "weak", it makes you look like i hypocrite.
rocbola 1 year ago
@rocbola Are you kidding me?!!! I was in Paradise Cove... how can you ever say that was a good thing for you? The only thing that Singalele Beach ever taught me was that when I joined the military, I knew that boot camp was fun compared to that beach. I was on both beaches and also the mountain... but to say you are a better person? WHAT?!!! Did you not go through what everybody else did? Did you not see what everybody else saw? You must hear Zig Zigler 24/7 these days to say that!!
ravex24 1 year ago
i went to Academy at ivy ridge for 13 months.i saw shit go on there that was horrible.hearing kids screaming from being "restrained". it was the worst 13 months of my life
roachocinco 2 years ago
i went to darrington academy
misstiadigoodas 2 years ago
what are they and whats wwasps mean?
Sonnyscoots 2 years ago
I went To Cross Creek and Casa By The Sea. I was never abused but some of my friends have been emotionally scarred. It's not for everyone.
perrigaud 2 years ago
csa,costa rica Does anyone else have a problem just forgetting about it ?
Geltabz101 2 years ago
I went to a WWASPS school...It was abusive on so many levels.
snatum 2 years ago 2
I was a student of CSA Tranqulity bay and Cross Creek
Learjetjock 2 years ago
OH DAMNN
you got the worst of it
=/
alotofcheese76 2 years ago
i GUESS YOU COULD SAY THAT. :/
Learjetjock 2 years ago
i was in carolina srpings academy... these programs hurt much more than they help.
Jaywalt83 2 years ago