He's way to tense, he's surely better in real fight that I'll never be but here it's not right.
The sil lim tao is almost yoga it's focusing on your movments and get good habits to have a good wing chun no showing muscles and beeing all nervous...
Ip Man's version was the best IF I remember correctly.
In theory I think there was 3 to start with, one Soft, Medium and then a Hard version, taught from 3 Grand Masters whom in turn learned from the Source (the nun or something like that)...
The info is on Google, so its there somewhere...
I want to learn ALL Wing Chun styles, who gives a crap which is better-worse just as long as you kick ass...
@NecroViolator Chinese martial arts = confusian on spirit, confucious say balance of both, balance of both = both soft and hard, soft and hard = medium. therefore, confucious say YOU LEARN MEDIUM
I begin in Wing Chun and I am very impressive on how your moves of Siu Kim Tao is different of Siu Lim Tao moves that I have learnt, very very different !
i tot Siu Nim Tau was about about Lop Nim -- to establish an idea in the mind. the force of an idea; or mind/intent force, where nim is the same idea/intent as in nim tau. so it was talking about the intention rather than force.
念頭不正,終生不正 - If your intention is wrong , your whole life is wrong.
thank you master wong...kmp3000 soft but not weak strong but not hard he does just that if u watch closely but i dont know it might b "too hard" for you lol
I think what Master Wong demonstrates here is combining yin (the soft) and yang (the hard) within the movements and integrating the flow of the chi within the movements too. My wingchun style is the same with Master Wong's. Hard and explosive. According to my master, mainland china's wingchun is most hard, while Hongkong's is soft.
well,form can be different cause wing chun shouldn't be fixed in only 1 or 2 form, in a sense if others critical movement can infuse and knock down opponent in lesser period,that's a good wing chun, but one important things is wing chun suppose to be using inner strength and should be soft ,it is not meant to be hardcore stuff and using only the external strength, this is what my master told me most of the times, he may be not the best master from all,but he's lesson makes sense
Wow, definitely different from all the other siu lim tao forms. I know there's a lot I would comment on but if this is his version of the form, that's totally fine! Wing Chun is a very political kung fu. So if it works, it's valid! What I'm really curious about is who taught Master Wong (his lineage)? Those who mentioned that this form is close to the original form, is there any solid evidence on this? (My second question should hopefully answer my first question)
the prob is that everyone is use to seeing Ip Man WC. Ip Man learned from different sources of WC and then modified/simplified his version from the original/older branches. it is even noted that he taught differently over the years and if a student already possessed skills he would modify their training to complement what they already knew. Ip Man was an outstanding martial artist plus he had a degree in physics. Get a clue, research, grow up....
people This form is actually closer to the original Siu nim tao . ip mans form is different because dr leung jan simplified the form after learning it from leung yee tai from the red boat opera.
Master Wongs form is older. Respect MON! Learn both stiff mon
In my experience, the only time you ever see two siu lim tau forms the same, is watching two students from the same class perform it. From my experience trying out numerous wing chun dojos, and watching many videos, there are so many different variations on this form, although you can still see the core components, and concepts within them all. This one seems to emphasize on the Qigong element a bit more, and seems to be mostly for wrist strengthening, and developing power.
@dizbeturtle true I learnt wing chun until the last form and I have no idea what he is doing. some parts are almost the same but I learnt it differently from master leung ting in hk who is one of ip mans students.
Perhaps YOU should study wing chun before mouthing off. This is CLEARLY a siu lim tao variation, and is not at all related to the Biu Tze form, the 3rd form in the system. Baka..
@ChristopherYoungKim He does not take trash like that to train with him. Most UFC and MMA fans are just trash. Besides, you can't do wing chun with rules.
ok. I practice Sifu Gary Lam wing chun...this is the most interesting version of "siu nim tao" I've ever seen. It looks like an odd mixture of Siu Nim Tao, Chum Kiu, and Bu Tze ....very interesting.
This is similar to a mixed version that I learned while I was a kid in HK. My teacher had a modified wing chun style that combined Tai Chi. But first I learned the traditional Wing Chun and the sticky hands before I advanced to the nontraditional techniques.
Did his with attitude. It's different from most Siu Lim Tau - Siu Nim Toa or however you spell it, but it is very effective. Look at more of his vids and you will see that he adds the kali hand drills to his Wing chun.
That sure is different from what I learn. I've seen smaller differences in other video's as well, but this looks very different from for instance Yip Man's Siu Lim Tao. Interesting...
calm down charlie brown...
Chrxs15 2 weeks ago
All that matters is if he can defend himself. If he can, he's doing it right.
gringolazlo 1 month ago
He's way to tense, he's surely better in real fight that I'll never be but here it's not right.
The sil lim tao is almost yoga it's focusing on your movments and get good habits to have a good wing chun no showing muscles and beeing all nervous...
m0utm0ut 2 months ago 2
That's not Ip Man's version..Which style is that ?
TheDark2042 2 months ago
@TheDark2042 Every sifu has different linages...
wildchildnation1996 3 weeks ago
pan nam me thinks??
bobmerc 4 months ago
havnt seen anything this different from yip man. There r many diff ways 2 do siu lim tau but this is interesting. Not 4 me but interesting.
wildcattamergirl 5 months ago
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fuck ip man
MrJasonBkn 6 months ago
There are many different styles of Wing Chun.
Ip Man's version was the best IF I remember correctly.
In theory I think there was 3 to start with, one Soft, Medium and then a Hard version, taught from 3 Grand Masters whom in turn learned from the Source (the nun or something like that)...
The info is on Google, so its there somewhere...
I want to learn ALL Wing Chun styles, who gives a crap which is better-worse just as long as you kick ass...
NecroViolator 6 months ago
@NecroViolator Chinese martial arts = confusian on spirit, confucious say balance of both, balance of both = both soft and hard, soft and hard = medium. therefore, confucious say YOU LEARN MEDIUM
reuelckj 4 days ago
I begin in Wing Chun and I am very impressive on how your moves of Siu Kim Tao is different of Siu Lim Tao moves that I have learnt, very very different !
certiful 7 months ago
i tot Siu Nim Tau was about about Lop Nim -- to establish an idea in the mind. the force of an idea; or mind/intent force, where nim is the same idea/intent as in nim tau. so it was talking about the intention rather than force.
念頭不正,終生不正 - If your intention is wrong , your whole life is wrong.
mastershouyu 7 months ago
thank you master wong...kmp3000 soft but not weak strong but not hard he does just that if u watch closely but i dont know it might b "too hard" for you lol
gnomechaser0123 8 months ago
Too hard. Movements should be softer and slow.
kmp3000 8 months ago
@kmp3000
I think what Master Wong demonstrates here is combining yin (the soft) and yang (the hard) within the movements and integrating the flow of the chi within the movements too. My wingchun style is the same with Master Wong's. Hard and explosive. According to my master, mainland china's wingchun is most hard, while Hongkong's is soft.
waibaitui 7 months ago
well,form can be different cause wing chun shouldn't be fixed in only 1 or 2 form, in a sense if others critical movement can infuse and knock down opponent in lesser period,that's a good wing chun, but one important things is wing chun suppose to be using inner strength and should be soft ,it is not meant to be hardcore stuff and using only the external strength, this is what my master told me most of the times, he may be not the best master from all,but he's lesson makes sense
rooy1116 8 months ago
Awesome!!
2bsure 8 months ago
internal muscle , chi internal power and baldie head i luv him
syadza70 9 months ago
mster wong is doing it wrong !!
TheG2Z 9 months ago 2
@TheG2Z On what do you base this assertion?
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
@DrSpooglemon it's really different.. i'm sure it's not from the Yip Man Lineage
TheG2Z 9 months ago
@TheG2Z I do not recall Mr Wong claiming it was...
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
it resembles the Augustine fong lineage but the movements and placement is off a bit.
youngrex777 9 months ago
Wow, definitely different from all the other siu lim tao forms. I know there's a lot I would comment on but if this is his version of the form, that's totally fine! Wing Chun is a very political kung fu. So if it works, it's valid! What I'm really curious about is who taught Master Wong (his lineage)? Those who mentioned that this form is close to the original form, is there any solid evidence on this? (My second question should hopefully answer my first question)
ShadowCure 10 months ago
what power, grace and pure skill.
how anyone can criticise this mans performance is just jealous.
im glad he teaches us.
at least he has good kung fu!
yulaw3 11 months ago
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SijoJay 11 months ago
the prob is that everyone is use to seeing Ip Man WC. Ip Man learned from different sources of WC and then modified/simplified his version from the original/older branches. it is even noted that he taught differently over the years and if a student already possessed skills he would modify their training to complement what they already knew. Ip Man was an outstanding martial artist plus he had a degree in physics. Get a clue, research, grow up....
SijoJay 11 months ago
@SijoJay well said bro!!!
2bsure 8 months ago
people This form is actually closer to the original Siu nim tao . ip mans form is different because dr leung jan simplified the form after learning it from leung yee tai from the red boat opera.
Master Wongs form is older. Respect MON! Learn both stiff mon
bonifaciorodriguez 1 year ago 2
That's not sil lum tao i never seeen it done that way.
12344richard 1 year ago 2
all i noticed that was the same was the ending when he closed his form xD epic though hes doing more than what i do in my class
Cryuss90 1 year ago
What we can say is this is defiantly not Ip Man WC.Please let us know what family of WC it is
sifurey 1 year ago
this is very different from ALL other sil lim tao forms i've ever seen
airsoftwannabe618 1 year ago
Lol @ Wong Chun haha.
In my experience, the only time you ever see two siu lim tau forms the same, is watching two students from the same class perform it. From my experience trying out numerous wing chun dojos, and watching many videos, there are so many different variations on this form, although you can still see the core components, and concepts within them all. This one seems to emphasize on the Qigong element a bit more, and seems to be mostly for wrist strengthening, and developing power.
Kakarot7 1 year ago
@TheMartialartsJedi that mena it's wong wing chun lol
centretotheleft 1 year ago
this is waaaaaayyyyyy different from what we was taught with the forms....
dizbeturtle 1 year ago
@dizbeturtle true I learnt wing chun until the last form and I have no idea what he is doing. some parts are almost the same but I learnt it differently from master leung ting in hk who is one of ip mans students.
Kennefo 1 year ago
@Kennefo i am hella confused when ever i watch this... i wonder who his teacher was...
dizbeturtle 1 year ago
Master Wong Help me . get my old body in track.
vicquiles 1 year ago
omg, from what i learnt from my master, i am totally mixed up
thelegend55g 1 year ago
u all stupid this is the 3rd form
the other video of yip man sil lim tao was the first form
go study wing cun b4 saying rubbish!
forbidden360 1 year ago
@forbidden360
Perhaps YOU should study wing chun before mouthing off. This is CLEARLY a siu lim tao variation, and is not at all related to the Biu Tze form, the 3rd form in the system. Baka..
Kakarot7 1 year ago
you cant top the best. Master wong system is all i study every day. for life
jonqwest1 1 year ago 2
Wow this is so different from Yip Man's original Sil Lim Tao.
XXRenegadePandaXX 1 year ago
@XXRenegadePandaXX yip mans wasn't the original form lol
ukguy 1 year ago
wow a little different from my sil lim tao but good form
Aznbadboi54 1 year ago
he does partly piensat taolu way!
walking1way 1 year ago
that's not the traditional way you do the Sil Lum Tao , my grandfather teaches the traditional way to me , it's a little different from your system.
Kr4zi4ur0mg 1 year ago
if master wong entered an mma tournament or ufc and pwned he would get so many students
ChristopherYoungKim 2 years ago
@ChristopherYoungKim He does not take trash like that to train with him. Most UFC and MMA fans are just trash. Besides, you can't do wing chun with rules.
nabapoisu 1 year ago
i tought that ahaha
SchismetaL 2 years ago
I think it's a Vietnamese style wingchun, it looks as if he's putting chops into the form.
Pretty awesome!
I'm Brit and practice wingchun in Taiwan with a good teacher LO MAN KAM.
His videos are brilliant.
Master Wong would fuck you up.
cornwallgeezer 2 years ago
@cornwallgeezer No no, it's not Vietnamese Sil lim tao. Absolutely not, but it's nice huh ? Amazing 'Chi flow'!
gameofdeath4288 1 year ago
i love this
gemini222ify 2 years ago
ok. I practice Sifu Gary Lam wing chun...this is the most interesting version of "siu nim tao" I've ever seen. It looks like an odd mixture of Siu Nim Tao, Chum Kiu, and Bu Tze ....very interesting.
wcmadskilz 2 years ago
Outstanding Breathing!
yerkshmerk 2 years ago
不是传统咏春小念头,这位大师好像是加了硬气功在里面,难道是少林咏春?
C'est pas du WingChun classique! Il est resemble qu'il a ajouté un sort de YinQiGong. C'est pas de ShaoLin WingChun?
lionjohn2004 2 years ago
@lionjohn2004
This is similar to a mixed version that I learned while I was a kid in HK. My teacher had a modified wing chun style that combined Tai Chi. But first I learned the traditional Wing Chun and the sticky hands before I advanced to the nontraditional techniques.
chaoticon 1 year ago
Very true. I like watching the other variations myself. I wish there were more learning and watching between groups than arguing.
webslinger1 2 years ago
永春可是鼎鼎大名的拳法哪!相反的,这套全发原值逾五梅师太,福建,福州。
lumianic 2 years ago
Very similar, yet very different from the form my Sifu taught me. I do own this DVD however and it is very useful
RLB21220 3 years ago
What Lineage of wing chun is it?
RudolfTime 3 years ago
高手!我非常喜欢你的功夫!自学能学会吗?
niu178 3 years ago
A very different take on the first form, would like to know those applications.
JGriff85 3 years ago
Very good, it looks to me like pan nam wing chun.
lesvoskwoon 3 years ago
What branch of Wing Chun is this? as mentioned already his forms are very diff from Yip mans or others I have seen.
vastin01 3 years ago 2
Did his with attitude. It's different from most Siu Lim Tau - Siu Nim Toa or however you spell it, but it is very effective. Look at more of his vids and you will see that he adds the kali hand drills to his Wing chun.
4212ETD 3 years ago
also i am learning and i am completly bewildrerd looks good but what is correct I dont know.
edincerimovic 4 years ago
That sure is different from what I learn. I've seen smaller differences in other video's as well, but this looks very different from for instance Yip Man's Siu Lim Tao. Interesting...
theheadacher 4 years ago
The order and speed is different but al moves are there,, bong sau, lap sau,, tan sau(here very quick, in the other form very slow)
Roelandvinken 4 years ago
hmm, that sil lim tao is way different than what i do....seems pretty good.
wiseknowin777 4 years ago
I like how the wind sounds so fierce.
miltyu97 5 years ago
good quality footage. great double angle shot idea.
funkmonkey06 5 years ago