Beautiful Work Bro! Thumbs UP for you. I doubt that Salman Taseer was assasinated on these wrong interpretations. Its on the heads of such Scholars. No Wonder our beloved prophet said (nearest meaning) that the worst creation is the misguiding/unlawful scholars of islam. I mean 'be-amal alim'.
THE PROBLEM WITH THESE "SO CALLED PEOPLE" WHO CALL THEMSELVES AN AALIM LIKE THIS PERSON WHO PUT UP THIS VEDIO. IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT IF ANYONE CALLS/ABUSES GOD , THE HOLY QURAN & ISLAM THEN HE SHOULD BE KILLED IF HE DOES NOT REPENT. YOU (arewemuslims) DO NOT TWIST THE FACTS IT IS CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE HOLY QURAN.
"it is clearly written in Holy Quran". Where exactly is it written ? before quoting any verses just be sure to read 20 verses before and after the verse. Context is always very clear.
I AM SHOCKED AT THIS PERSON WHO IS GIVING HIS "EXPERT" COMMENTARY.
IS HE AN AALIM ? WHO THE HECK IS HE TO ABUSE THE QURANIC AAYATS. HE SHOULD SAY THE KALMA OVER AND OVER AGAIN. TRYING TO CREATE FASAD AND FITNA. IT IS JUST SUCH "LIBERAL" MUSLIMS WHO ARE DESTROYING ISLAM. "ARE WE MUSLIMS" HE IS NOT SURE THAT HE IS A MUSLIM KEEPING SUCH A NICK. PLEASE NEVER DO THIS IN FUTURE.
I AM SHOCKED AT THIS PERSON WHO IS GIVING HIS "EXPERT" COMMENTARY.
IS HE AN AALIM ? WHO THE HECK IS HE TO ABUSE THE QURANIC AAYATS. HE SHOULD SAY THE KALMA OVER AND OVER AGAIN. TRYING TO CREATE FASAD AND FITNA. IT IS JUST SUCH "LIBERAL" MUSLIMS WHO ARE DESTROYING ISLAM. "ARE WE MUSLIMS" HE IS NOT SURE THAT HE IS A MUSLIM KEEPING SUCH A NICK. PLEASE NEVER DO THIS IN FUTURE.
I AM SHOCKED AT THIS PERSON WHO IS GIVING HIS "EXPERT" COMMENTARY. IS HE AN AALIM ? WHO THE HECK IS HE TO ABUSE THE QURANIC AAYATS. HE SHOULD SAY THE KALMA OVER AND OVER AGAIN. TRYING TO CREATE FASAD AND FITNA. IT IS JUST SUCH "LIBERAL" MUSLIMS WHO ARE DESTROYING ISLAM.
Thank you for taking the time to expose the lies of these moulvis ... they are working against Islam! Islam is my religion, our religion, we can't have these liars be the representative of us - the only taint Islam and us!
Lastly, I just want to correct you in the journey of migration. It was not the cave of HIRA where Holy Prophet (SAWAW) stayed for three days. HIRA was the cave where first verse was revealed. It was the cave of SAUR or THAWR which is on the opposite side to the route of Madina. First Holy Prophet (SAWAW) went opposite to Madina in that cave, then he picked a new route that was different from the usual route to Madina.
I do not object that Molvi usually skip the verses. But, I object on your question that you asked how Holy Prophet (SAWAW) could be harmed when he is dead. First of all, you should check that Hadith in which Holy Prophet (SAWAW) said that the Prophets do not die and the earth do not harm their bodies. Secondly, even today, the Prophet (S) could be harmed similarly as he was harmed at the time of Karbala (51 years after his WISAAL).
"you should check that Hadith in which Holy Prophet (SAWAW) said that the Prophets do not die and the earth do not harm their bodies"
which hadeeth are you talking about? Oh you must be talking about bukhari who was born 150 years AFTER Prophet had passed away. I find it funny and an insult to my intelligence that this guy claims he knows what Prophet said 150 years ago when essentially there was no one alive who had been in Prophet's company.
@AreWeMuslims First of all, I'd like to tell you that only Bukhari is not a reference to me. Because whenever anyone ask from me a reference of Bukhari, I use to ask the reference from where Bukhari get the Ahadith.
If you are not aware of the science of Ahadith, I would like to brief you that dealing with Ahadith is not a game of every tom, dick and harry. As, the Ahadith have been compiled after a long while and are complicated, there is a vast knowledge to check the authenticity.
@AreWeMuslims The are thousands of Ahadith which are accepted by every sect of Islam and the Hadith I quoted was among those.
Secondly, about the verse you were talking. Please also see another verse which say that those dead ones have their foods from Allah.
Thirdly, if you leave these two ref. every sect of Islam is united in the matter that if you go to graveyard and say SALAM, the deceased one will be given life and he'll answer. And Prophet (s) receive Salam 24/7.
@AreWeMuslims "Here me, you or anyone else has to put their intelligence aside as Imam Bukhari just compiled the Ahadith, which were there from the chain of Narrations of Sahaba e Karam (Razi Allah o Unhum), then tabieen and then taba tabieen. And it is a well supported fact that he spent a lot of time in putting each and every single one of those Ahadith.
@AreWeMuslims "Here me, you or anyone else has to put their intelligence aside as Imam Bukhari just compiled the Ahadith, which were there from the chain of Narrations of Sahaba e Karam (Razi Allah o Unhum), then tabieen and then taba tabieen. And it is a well supported fact that he spent a lot of time in putting each and every single one of those Ahadith.
If you use the ayat "dont call those who fought in way of Allah dead-but they are alive but you dont have understanding"; then still my question is : how does a worldly rule applies to a Prophet whose life we dont even know is what kidn of life?????
Let me tell you a simple secret about Islam and Quran:
When you see or hear being done in name of Islam, and it does not make sense to you, then check it out from Quran.chances are the mullahs are twisting quran by fabricated Hadith for their own biases /sects. Been there done that.
This video is here for more then 14 days and I only saw it first time today, shouldnt we make is lie public and tell every one what we have been told, how our sacred Quran is missused, and we dont even bother to check the authenicity? send this video to all your friends and family , this is the best education we can give to the next generation , atleast they would not believe in all that is told without a proper check
Please share it along with as many as possible. Spread the light of Quran. Educate everyone with Quran's commandments so that Mullahs cant abuse it against humanity.
LOOK HOW HE (BASTARD PRACHA) IS INSULTING PARVEEZ BY SAYING, "HAM PARVEZ SAHIB KO YEH HAQ NAHI DE SAKTE KE WO ISLAM KE SHIANE BAN JAIN". HE HIM SELF IS PLAYING WITH THE WORD OF ALLAH (NAUZUBILLAH) AND COMMITTING BLASPHEMY.
DEar HAbib, can you please refrain from proganity and swearing? If we do this, then there is no difference between us and them. Could you please remove your comments and re-post them without swearing? I can do this as well, but I am sure that you wll kindly understand my understand and do the needful your self.
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Thankyou very much for your posts and visits.
Regards
PS: Please do keep visiting and commenting though. :-)
Well I will not like to rate the gentlemen posing as Ulemas as any kind of clerics of Islam. In a Islamic society there is no difference between such people and the likes of them in other religions in other words these are commoners posing as clerics only because they are sporting a beard. So please distinguish between a commoner posing as a cleric. The real culprit here is the news channel playing along these commoners and supporting their brand of Islam.
We should only blame ourselves, for giving the Qur'an and Sunnah in contract to these Contractors of Deen. We do not learn Qur'an, recite it for SAWAB only, we need Mullah to recite Adhan to new born, funeral prayers, where as we can do it ourselves. There no concept of Priesthood, Mullah in Islam, yes scholars are required to teach and guide not misguide. Our society has degenerated so this branch also. JAZAK ALLAH. peace-forum.blogspot.com/
“..they pervert the words from their context and thus distort their meaning,… and regarding all except a few of them you continue to learn that they committed acts of treachery… Pardon them” (Qur’an;5:13). “… who pervert the words of Allah, taking them out of context in order to distort their meaning. .. For them there is degradation in this world and a mighty chastisement in the Next”(Qur’an 5:41)
I myself went through the translation and agree that the point view shown on the TV program is totally flawed and misleading the general public. These are the people who are the biggest threat to Islam. Allah please save us from them ameen !!
Only Aalims have the right to comment? Which aalims, those can't seem to agree on anything based on what their Imam says? Is the Qur'an for Khaas or Naas? You decide. There is no more excuses to stay away from the Qur'an as multiple side by side translations are available on the net. Try islamawakend website to read 20 plus side-by-side translations/interpretations!!
Please like the page "Kafir, Kafir, Farid Pracha Kafir" in facebook to show that you are against the distortion of Quran by these JAHIL MULLAHS. THANKS
According to the verse 60 (which this bastard mullah ommitted) says , "They have a disease in their hearts and spread rumours and false news"...... continued in 61 ....."are cursed and should be seized and killed thoroughly". It looks these two verses are for this mother fucker Pracha type of people.
Did you even watch the video? Paracha used verse #57 which talked about "those who annoy the Prophet" and then jumps to 61 which says that they are cursed and orders Muslims to kill them. The problem is that "Kill them" is not about those who blaspheme or insult the Prophet but about those mentioned in #58-60 i.e. those who used to disturb the wives of the Prophet and the hypocrites who were spreading false rumors against Islam.
Jazak Allah for your efforts. Yours is the only video I know of that exposes this fraud. In the western world at least someone from the mainstream media would have caught it, or at least a journalist from some minor outlet would have caught it. In Pakistan the job is left to the people and not many people are actively blogging or contributing to sites such as youtube.
Yes, this moulvee lied about verses in another program as well, and I went and opened the quran and was so shocked to see how he was lying right through his teeth.
But what is more disturbing is the audience clapping for lying moulvee? what an alarming situation of common people's sentiments. This is what moves people in pakistan? lies?
The speaker in the video has all the right to criticise those two Islamic/Scholarsin video, if has has obtained that much knowledge and education in Islam and Quran, if he has got life long education for Quranic understanding. Otherwise just on the basis of simple and casual reading of translation, he has no right to say anything authoritative. First educate yourself, then say anything big!!!
I have uploaded another video about whether a "non allim" is Quran's concern or not. Has Allah addresses "AALims" only or has addressed EVERYONE in His Book. Please Have a look.
Ok, leaving aside whether the Islamic scholars speaking in the video had done all these rightly or wrongly, or done anything bad intentionally, I simply want to know if the person who had made the video, and commenting from behind, is a proper Islamic/Quranic scholar or not; whether he had spent his whole time in learning Quran, understanding the whole Quran properly or not. Allah has made Quran very easy to understand, but not that easy to understand it by reading the translation casually.
@sayefhussain by all means tell us the true meaning O enlightened one ?
is it the meaning what the two mulvis say it is ?
and further you speak with words discouraging others into going in the Quran and learning its meaning and verifying anyone who gives reference to the Holy Book. Do you mean that we should never share knowledge with another person because we are not certified scholars ? im sorry il have to respectfully disagree then
Awesome Job Brother....May Allah Bless you. I agree that we dont need mullahs to do interpret quran for us. Its not possible that Allah made Quran and then did not give us enough brain to understand it. Every person has enough power to understand it without anyones help.
اِس کتاب میں دو طرح کی آیات ہیں: ایک محکمات، جو کتاب کی اصل بنیاد ہیں اور دوسری متشابہات جن لوگوں کے دلو ں میں ٹیڑھ ہے، وہ فتنے کی تلاش میں ہمیشہ متشابہات ہی کے پیچھے پڑے رہتے ہیں اور اُن کو معنی پہنانے کی کوشش کیا کرتے ہیں،
Note: This is the part of verse no. 7. Please see Ref. al-Imran verse no 7.
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میں یہ کہنا چاہتا ہوں کہ یہ لوگ آیات کو اپنے بیان میں خاص مقصد کے لیے استمعال کرتے ہیں اور اُس آیت کو سیاق و سباق سے ہٹا کر بیان کر کے آیت کو اپنے نقطہء نظر مین ڈھالنے کی کو شش کرتے ہیں یہ آیت جو میں نے پوسٹ کی تھی اِن جیسے لو گوں کے ایسے اِرادوں کا پردہ فاش کرتی ہے۔
Thank you so much for taking time out and posting this video. I am very happy that there are people who are using their mind instead of falling for the answers of Ullama by considering them more educated then everyone else. We don't need a PhD degree to understand quran. We just need a mind that THINKS :)
@AreWeMuslims m also talkin about authenticity of Hadith. Allah Tallah hum sub ko Hadith ata keray. AsslamuAlaikum...!!!
And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness. Al Furqan
Similarly, there are many instances in history as quoted by these Aalims when the Prophet (PBUH) himself ordered for death punishment for the person who showed disrespect to our Prophet (PBUH).
I think, this man has very rightly pointed out the mistakes in this video. I would also request you to have some evidence from Sunnah and Hadees cause we have to be sure if a death punishment is applicable for Gustakhe-Rasool (PBUH). There are many things which are not mentioned in detail in Quran but have been clarified by the Prophet (PBUH) e.g Namaz (salat) is Faraz in Quran but details of how to pray and how many rakats were clarified by the Prophet.
Allah has spelled haram and halal to finest detail but forgot to include death sentence for apostasy and blasphemy? I think not. Any "purported" hadeeth that is against Quran is obviously a fabrication in history since Prophet would never say anything against Allah's Words. If it were to be a general direction then it wuold have been clear in quran with no room for ambiguity at all
MogliBananaNose .salman taseer hell me hey cuz usnay gustakh-e-rasoll s.a.w kee support kee hey .aur rahee tumharee baat kay blasphemy law khutum kurdo dunya kay kisi country me koi bhee ghustakhi kuray gaa hazoor pak s.a.w kay liya uski saza sirf death .cuz koi bhee muslim eyein burdasht nahee kursukta kay hazoor pak s.a.w kee shan mey koi insult ka soch sukay .salman taseer kutta tha aur kuttay kee mout mur gaya hurmat-e- rasool s.a.w pur jaan bhee qurbaan.
Great work! ...hats off!....but some of us are already at the point of no return when it comes to ignorance and stupidity...for example instead of pondering on the main point that you have raised in this video that how these mullahs are manipulating Quarnic verses to suit their sick argument, some moron is trying to tell you that you can't read Arabic! Haqeeqat Khurafat Mein Kho Gayee,Yeh Ummat Rawaiat Mein Kho Gayee.
The truth was lost in vain disputes,And the nation was lost in traditions
I admire you for making the effort to research, make and pubish this clip. The problem in our society is not the rabid mullahs, it is people like us who have been bestowed with gifts like reason, logic and education but choose not to use them.
I found the following ayat (Sura R'ad 13:40) very relevant to the discussion.
Whether We show you (O Muhammad SAW) part of what We have promised them or cause you to die, your duty is only to convey (the Message) and on Us is the reckoning.
Ab zara sochiye, this is their punishment Allah is declaring only due to the reason that they spread rumors regarding RasoolALLAh and his family in madina. So how about disgracing RasoolALLAh directly? Isnt it clearly mentioning the blesphemy law? :)
Its not blasphemy law. It is direct address TO PROPHET what to do to these people at his own hand. Read the verses from start again. you already do understand they were spreading "rumours" about Rasool and his fmaily in Medina. they have now been DEAD for 1400 years.
its nto the matter of 1400 years later or before or anything, the verse is talking about Munafiqs, and not they are limited in the time span, they are living up today as well, they were not in numbers rite then as well, this is why ALLAH SWT is saying "kill them WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM", Jahan milain maar dalo, it is not at all specific to those only, like the verses
in Quran where Allah SWT is addressing Muslimoon, so according to you, is it refered to the muslims who were living in the life time of RasoolALLAH only? and it is not applicable to the muslims now after 1400 Years? Does it make sense to you honestly? If yes, we are involved in conclusion-less debate.
"in Quran where Allah SWT is addressing Muslimoon, ...."
Which verses are you talking about?
There are verses like "O Prophet, those people who argue WITH YOU, or HURT YOU (in person).... In such verses the orders would be directly related to those partular situations in PROPHET's time only . But quote exact verses and I can talk about them . Thanks
Unless i will quote them who will say you dont know about those verses? gud enough. : )
You know and your hearts knows, that there are verses in Quran where Muslimoon were addresses, Mominoon were addresses, mominaat were addressed and etc etc. So you want me to quote one of them?
God and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.
In this verse Allah is saying O YE WHO BELEIVE, which is addressing to all. you can beleive whatever you want to. My job is to convey message. Rest is between you and Allah.
and those who stir up sedition in the city, means spread rumors and dirty things regarding RasoolALLAH and His ehl e bayt in the city of Madina, they are being talked about in this verse, and they are the ones who are being ordered to kill without mercy in the next verse?? Is this the case?
Yeah you are right. And they are being talked about DIRECTLY to Prophet (In Medina) not AFTER PRophet died 1400 years ago. These verses are a direct address to Prophet WHEN HE WAS ALIVE>
So the verse is supposed to INVALID in quran NOW? : )
It is giving you a Law against these blesphemors. All the incidents recorded in Quran, are during the life period of RasoolALLAH (SAW), so all the laws after Him shall be eliminated? No point.
Dear read thoroughly, the verse is talking about is HYPOCRITE (NOT KUFFARS), And who are hypocrites? those who are muslims (In Front), but they disease in their hearts (Means they are Munafiq keeping Bughz for RasoolALLAH in their hearts).
Again, what does sedition mean? Look it up in dictionary. it is not rumours-- it is high treason and rebellion. thas what is to be punished since they(kuffars) have a "disease" in thier hearts.
For whom the verse number 61 is ordering of killing without mercy? Those who were discussed in the above verses? or some other xyz and abc people? :) Okay, lets say, in verse number 61 Allah SWT ordered to kill those who were discussed in verse number 60, then who are they in verse number 60? They are those hypocrites, who are having BUGHZ in their hearts (For RasoolALLAH),
"For whom the verse number 61 is ordering of killing without mercy?" Yeah kill the ones who were hurting beleivers and Prophets and his family in MEDINA. Read it again. The people Quran was referreing to have been dead for `1400 years now. You cant mix this verse with MOCKING and JESTING against Prophets which has always happened at hands of non-belevers.
21:36. When disbelievers see you, they do nothing but take you in jest (saying to one another,) .Is this the one who talks of your gods?. _ while they themselves reject even talking of the RaHman (All-Merciful).
Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time:
[33:61]
They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).
HAve you actually looked up meaning of sedition: It means high treason and rebellion and not just "rumours". Research well before you "decide:" what verse means.
So my point is simple and straight, you are trying to FIX verse to the people in RasoolALLAH's time, and reject them after His life. And i believe, the incidents happened made the laws untill the day of judgement comes. you have to read it again "[33:60] Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease,"
Man, it is quite clear, THOSE is whose hearts is a disease and so on... IT IS NOT ONLY SPECIFIC TO THE HYPOCRITES LIVING IN RASOOLALLAH's Time. Consult an aalim.
In this verse Allah is saying O YE WHO BELEIVE, which is addressing to all. you can beleive whatever you want to. My job is to convey message. Rest is between you and Allah.
Exactly this is my point, O YE WHO BELIEVE, and the other verse of Surah e Ahzab, Allah SWT is talking about
"IF THE HYPOCRITES THOSE WHO HAVE DISEASE IN THEIR HEARTS" ....... so how can you fix it to those Munafiqs only? It is for all. I have also tried to make u understand, that you need to go in deep to understand more correctly, now rest is between u and Allah.
Muhammad Taqi Usmani 33: 57. Surely, those who annoy Allah and His Messenger are cursed by Allah in this world and in the Hereafter, and He has prepared for them a humiliating punishment.
Tahir al-Qadri 33: 57. Surely those who offend Allah and His Prophet, Allah curses them in the world and in the Hereafter and He has prepared for them a disgraceful torment.
so how do you "offend" Prophet when he is dead already? The verse talks about Prophet's lifetime
The preceding verse also says IN MEDINA. where do you fit that?? :-) so no mushrekeen in medina, then verse is not applicable if you are really following the verse in true spirit of word. you still have not looked up SEDITION.
Muhammad Taqi Usmani 33: 57. Surely, those who annoy Allah and His Messenger are cursed by Allah in this world and in the Hereafter, and He has prepared for them a humiliating punishment.
Tahir al-Qadri 33: 57. Surely those who offend Allah and His Prophet, Allah curses them in the world and in the Hereafter and He has prepared for them a disgraceful torment.
so how do you "offend" Prophet when he is dead already? The verse talks about Prophet's lifetime
O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And God is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Okay, okay, I was trying to be nice to them but your may be right. If they deliberately twist and omit Qur'anic verses to make a point then they are grossly guilty before the Ummah and more important, before Allah.
Few problems with your position. Number 1, These are NOT scholars by any stretch of imagination...none whatsoever!! If you wanna know who truly is a scholar, Google Muhammad Asad (Leopold Weiss) who was fluent in Hebrew and Aramaic, well versed in Torah, other Talmudic traditions and the New Testament. Asad spent numerous years with the Bedouin Arabs to learn classical Arabic so that he could understand Quran.
Muhammad Assad's translation is one of my mainstays for Quranic Translation. you should read his other books as well : Road to Mecca and "this law of ours". IN the latter, apparently he talks about our dependance on "ijtihad" and "interpretation" by our imams and our blind following. I have not read it yet, but thats what previews say. I will order it over amazon insha Allah.
@AreWeMuslims: In Asad's interpretation of Quran, in the appendix, he has elaborated with surgical precision what "Symbolism and Allegories" in Quran mean and why it is important to understand differences between Ayaat Al Muhkamaat and Ayaat Al Mutashabihaat. If you send me your email address (via Youtube email) , I will email that article to you.
I do have one of his Translation in hard copy. I know what you are referring to. This is also position of many others . Zamakhshari is anohter big name in this regard. Unfortunately his tafseer of quran is in arabic and no english translation has been done so far.
"These are NOT scholars by any stretch of imagination...none whatsoever" Scholar or no scholar, these people are the very people who endorse such terrorism in name of religion. Effect and result is important in this particular case irrespective of the tool used to acheive it. they need to be countered.
Muslim scholars are humans, prone to mistakes and must be judged by Al Furqan. They must also be taken to task when they read hadees fabrications into the Qur'an and twist Qur'anic verses. That said, we, common people must and must get into the habit of regularly reading multiple translations of Allahs Final Message
Media not at all represents Islam or even any other thing just as Pakistani Movies not represent Pakistanis. Secondly this Peracha is not a Muslim Scholar, thirdly we can't judge all Ulemas by pointing out few. Then neither Peracha nor this... guy in this videop has rightly explained what is being said by Allah Tallah (SWT) in his Book. You need context, you need the interpretations of Sahab e Ikram (RA), you need the interpretations of Tabaeen (RA)
"you need the interpretations of Sahab e Ikram (RA), you need the interpretations of Tabaeen (RA)" so you are saying Allah did not give a clear message which needs explanation by humans? Quran asserts otherwise. There are more than 11 verses in Surah Bawara ALONE that say "We have sent down clear messages and verses"
(2:221)And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember.
Be careful before accusing Allah that His Message needs human clarification.
@AreWeMuslims and be very very careful my brother before accusing Shab e Ikram (RA) that they wrongly interpreted the message of Allah SWT. because they were present at that time, they were among the company of Rasullulah SAW they used to ask Prophet SAW about the meaning of the ayats, their mother language was Arabic, they were the best among Humans, their credibility cannot be denied and their eeman cannot be challenged. can anybody challenge them just by studying the translation???
Sahaba did what they did, we are not answerable for their actions and nor are they responsible for our actions. This prinicple is clarified in Quran SEVERAL times.
@AreWeMuslims Allah Tallah hum sub ko Hadiat ata keray...According to one Hadith of Rasoollah SAW, the best among Humans is one who learns Quran n teaches it. so plz now dont deny the importance of learning Quran, we cant understand properly unless and untill we have good command over Arabic language. so if anyone wants to get his own interpretation of Quran, he has to learn the language thoroughly. if u dont trust interpretation of Saha e Ikram then why are you trusting the translation....
Even if you watned to understand what Sahaba thought quran said , you would still need to depend on translations. So better read Quran translation rather translation of what sahaba thought. and no one has a video record of any sahaba or prophet giving lessons in Quran. So we dont know what really did Prophet say or not.
@Qasim4862 ....of other ppl. not only language but he must have good command over the entire life of Rasoolah SAW in order to get the context and what was the reaction of Rasoollah (SAW) on any directive given by Allah SWT, now for Allah Sake dont say that Rasssolah's SAW interpretation is also not acceptable to you. my point is u need to learn Quran to understand it not jus read the translation and give ur own fatwa. Allah SWT hum sub ko Hadaith ata keray Ameen
@Qasim4862 ur problem is bigger than what i thought ..u r now denying the Hadith of Rasoolah SAW which is being collected and protected by Sahabe Ikram RA and Tabaeen RA. my dear friend do you have any record of Quran being revealed to Prophet SAW. Quran was preserved by Sahab e Ikram (RA), it is not being sent as any book by Allah SWT, then why are u accepting Quran and denying Hadith. when u dont trust Sahab eIkram on Haidth then y r u trusting them on Quran (Nazoobillah Suma Nazoobilah)
gustak-e-rasool s.a.w kee saza sirf death hey jo koi bhee porre dunya mey hazoor pak s.a.w kee shan mey ghustakhi kuray gaa usko zinda rehnay ka koi huq nahee aur raha salman taseer woh hell mey hey aur usko maarnay wala mumtaz qadri hero hey aur agur tum muslim hoo tu tum allah say maafi maango .
@allahkasoldier Aap ko Allah sey maafi mangni chahiye, aur Salman Taseer key bachon se bhi, key aap ney insaan par EVIDENCE key beghair ilzam lagaya. Mumtaz Qadri QAATIL ney apna dimagh nahin use kiya, us ne kisi molvi key speech key baad jazbati qatal ki. Iss blasphemy law ko zaroor change karna chahiye taakay aap jesay log jo nakli ilzaam laga key logon ko qatal yaan jail karany ke haq mein hein iss law ka faida nahin uttha saktein SABOOT KE BEGHAIR. Yeh blasphemy law zaroor BLACK LAW hai.
By the Way, It seemed like you were reading Qur'an for the first time. You had a lot of trouble and still made mistakes in reciting the so often recited Ayah.
Thats because this is in Uthmani script and not the one I was trained in (our script uses lot of "alifs" whereas in this one they have used "kharee zabar" like notation in place of Alif. just open the link to any quran online site and try different scripts :-)
@InspiredTidings ... its not his quran arabic reading test going on here. it depends that whatever u read just understand its true meaning!! .. people read arabic so fluently but they dont even know what it means! atleast he is better than that.
- The other guy wanted to point towards 9:12 and he mistakenly said 'ayah 13'. Ayah 12 deals with the blasphemy issue. So its just a mistake of reference.
009.013 Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is Allah Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe!
- It is not necessary that the guy did it on purpose, but even If he did that's the mistake on 'one-person'. The reason I think he didn't do it on purpose is because there are many clear-cut narrations on the issue, and single-ayaat dealing with the issue which leave no doubt as to what the punishment is. So, he doesn't need to twist and turn the Qur'an to prove the point. (May Allah Forgive Him)
I agree with you regarind with a mistake thingy. However, it can not be ignored if the result is a mob beleiving in his "mistake" bent upon killing people.
@AreWeMuslims .... but if he does not remember the whole ayat that u dont say it in front of the whole world. because in these things u should be accurate . its not a novel that he eats the middle part and then reading the last part !
@InspiredTidings kindly guide us to the other places where the Holy Book guides us into such conclusions ? (please give primary source that can be verified)
Bhai, this is possibly one of the best videos I have seen! MashAllah, you have inspired me to bring out the stupidities that I also see on TV in the name of religion, like you have so successfully done so. May God give you happiness in this life and the hereafter, and may God bless you and your loved ones. JazaakAllah, brother. There is nothing else I can say. JazaakAllah.
WeAreMuslims have done a great job. This is precisely what is needed to counter these Thekedars of Islam who have, like all Thekedars, amaseesd a lot of money, earlier from USA and now from well maening Pakistan. There agenda is purely political - they are only trying to stirr up an issue for the next election.
these clerics should be forced to provide evidence every time they quote a verse specially on tv. they should be told to show slides of all the verses along with their corresponding verses.
the audience, host and all the guests are so naive and actually lacking knowledge about quran that they were convinced right away. educated people should spend some time reading and understanding quran so they can debate such clerics. its our own fault that these mullaz have become guardians of religion
the biggest problem in pak society right now i think is that we (most of us) have not read quran in our language. we don't understand it but we follow it. we follow whatever version of quran these hate filled mullahz preach. and these mulviz have made religion their business. our holy book is in the hands of these illiterate 'hypocrites', and the literate ppl of the country don't spend any time on researching and using their own brain to interpret quran.
so you're saying that these two verses are inter-related:
If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verify shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. 33:60
AND
Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter. 33:61
sounds like the terrorists & mullahz to me. thanks for pointing it out. we mostly believe the mullahz just to avoid researching
Quran is an interesting book. It touches an issue here , and then kinda puts it aside to discuss some other issue, only to return to the original issue it was discussing. One therefore, sees recurrent themes scattered throughout The Book. However, it does not mean that it does not have any order to it. One c
Why does the crowd clap at everything?
aatirmujtabakhan 1 month ago
@aatirmujtabakhan
>>>Why does the crowd clap at everything?<<
Because they agree with peracha.
AreWeMuslims 1 month ago
@aatirmujtabakhan
And that is the most alarming thing---- peracha is not alone believer of this nonsense. Many people agree with this thought process.
AreWeMuslims 1 month ago
Beautiful Work Bro! Thumbs UP for you. I doubt that Salman Taseer was assasinated on these wrong interpretations. Its on the heads of such Scholars. No Wonder our beloved prophet said (nearest meaning) that the worst creation is the misguiding/unlawful scholars of islam. I mean 'be-amal alim'.
saf092 4 months ago
THE PROBLEM WITH THESE "SO CALLED PEOPLE" WHO CALL THEMSELVES AN AALIM LIKE THIS PERSON WHO PUT UP THIS VEDIO. IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT IF ANYONE CALLS/ABUSES GOD , THE HOLY QURAN & ISLAM THEN HE SHOULD BE KILLED IF HE DOES NOT REPENT. YOU (arewemuslims) DO NOT TWIST THE FACTS IT IS CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE HOLY QURAN.
volkerdittrich4 1 year ago
@volkerdittrich4
You are a fool.
@ AreWeMuslims
Thankyou for the video.
AllahHafiz
MesMorial 10 months ago
@volkerdittrich4
"it is clearly written in Holy Quran". Where exactly is it written ? before quoting any verses just be sure to read 20 verses before and after the verse. Context is always very clear.
Regards
AreWeMuslims 10 months ago
@volkerdittrich4
WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO KILL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HOLD DIFFERENT OPINIONS? tHAT IS EVIL BARBARISMN AND CRUELTY
linklinklink100 8 months ago
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I AM SHOCKED AT THIS PERSON WHO IS GIVING HIS "EXPERT" COMMENTARY.
IS HE AN AALIM ? WHO THE HECK IS HE TO ABUSE THE QURANIC AAYATS. HE SHOULD SAY THE KALMA OVER AND OVER AGAIN. TRYING TO CREATE FASAD AND FITNA. IT IS JUST SUCH "LIBERAL" MUSLIMS WHO ARE DESTROYING ISLAM. "ARE WE MUSLIMS" HE IS NOT SURE THAT HE IS A MUSLIM KEEPING SUCH A NICK. PLEASE NEVER DO THIS IN FUTURE.
volkerdittrich4 1 year ago
I AM SHOCKED AT THIS PERSON WHO IS GIVING HIS "EXPERT" COMMENTARY.
IS HE AN AALIM ? WHO THE HECK IS HE TO ABUSE THE QURANIC AAYATS. HE SHOULD SAY THE KALMA OVER AND OVER AGAIN. TRYING TO CREATE FASAD AND FITNA. IT IS JUST SUCH "LIBERAL" MUSLIMS WHO ARE DESTROYING ISLAM. "ARE WE MUSLIMS" HE IS NOT SURE THAT HE IS A MUSLIM KEEPING SUCH A NICK. PLEASE NEVER DO THIS IN FUTURE.
volkerdittrich4 1 year ago
I AM SHOCKED AT THIS PERSON WHO IS GIVING HIS "EXPERT" COMMENTARY. IS HE AN AALIM ? WHO THE HECK IS HE TO ABUSE THE QURANIC AAYATS. HE SHOULD SAY THE KALMA OVER AND OVER AGAIN. TRYING TO CREATE FASAD AND FITNA. IT IS JUST SUCH "LIBERAL" MUSLIMS WHO ARE DESTROYING ISLAM.
volkerdittrich4 1 year ago
Nice one.. I think biggest religion in world is Humanity ... You can call it by any name.. Also books written in context is to be analyzed.
chaudhryofstrings 1 year ago
Thank you for taking the time to expose the lies of these moulvis ... they are working against Islam! Islam is my religion, our religion, we can't have these liars be the representative of us - the only taint Islam and us!
BeyondDreamz 1 year ago
Lastly, I just want to correct you in the journey of migration. It was not the cave of HIRA where Holy Prophet (SAWAW) stayed for three days. HIRA was the cave where first verse was revealed. It was the cave of SAUR or THAWR which is on the opposite side to the route of Madina. First Holy Prophet (SAWAW) went opposite to Madina in that cave, then he picked a new route that was different from the usual route to Madina.
shahrukhsyed 1 year ago
@shahrukhsyed
"I just want to correct you in the journey of migration"
I already corrected by adding annotation erratum regarding this at 13:38 which you missed.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims Thank you very much for clearing it. If you do not like any of my word, I am sorry for that.
May Allah keep us all on the straight path.
shahrukhsyed 1 year ago
Assalamo Alaikom.
I do not object that Molvi usually skip the verses. But, I object on your question that you asked how Holy Prophet (SAWAW) could be harmed when he is dead. First of all, you should check that Hadith in which Holy Prophet (SAWAW) said that the Prophets do not die and the earth do not harm their bodies. Secondly, even today, the Prophet (S) could be harmed similarly as he was harmed at the time of Karbala (51 years after his WISAAL).
This is the answer to that question.
shahrukhsyed 1 year ago
@shahrukhsyed
"you should check that Hadith in which Holy Prophet (SAWAW) said that the Prophets do not die and the earth do not harm their bodies"
which hadeeth are you talking about? Oh you must be talking about bukhari who was born 150 years AFTER Prophet had passed away. I find it funny and an insult to my intelligence that this guy claims he knows what Prophet said 150 years ago when essentially there was no one alive who had been in Prophet's company.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims First of all, I'd like to tell you that only Bukhari is not a reference to me. Because whenever anyone ask from me a reference of Bukhari, I use to ask the reference from where Bukhari get the Ahadith.
If you are not aware of the science of Ahadith, I would like to brief you that dealing with Ahadith is not a game of every tom, dick and harry. As, the Ahadith have been compiled after a long while and are complicated, there is a vast knowledge to check the authenticity.
shahrukhsyed 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims The are thousands of Ahadith which are accepted by every sect of Islam and the Hadith I quoted was among those.
Secondly, about the verse you were talking. Please also see another verse which say that those dead ones have their foods from Allah.
Thirdly, if you leave these two ref. every sect of Islam is united in the matter that if you go to graveyard and say SALAM, the deceased one will be given life and he'll answer. And Prophet (s) receive Salam 24/7.
shahrukhsyed 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims "Here me, you or anyone else has to put their intelligence aside as Imam Bukhari just compiled the Ahadith, which were there from the chain of Narrations of Sahaba e Karam (Razi Allah o Unhum), then tabieen and then taba tabieen. And it is a well supported fact that he spent a lot of time in putting each and every single one of those Ahadith.
Liono74 1 year ago
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@AreWeMuslims "Here me, you or anyone else has to put their intelligence aside as Imam Bukhari just compiled the Ahadith, which were there from the chain of Narrations of Sahaba e Karam (Razi Allah o Unhum), then tabieen and then taba tabieen. And it is a well supported fact that he spent a lot of time in putting each and every single one of those Ahadith.
Liono74 1 year ago
@shahrukhsyed
If you use the ayat "dont call those who fought in way of Allah dead-but they are alive but you dont have understanding"; then still my question is : how does a worldly rule applies to a Prophet whose life we dont even know is what kidn of life?????
Please use your brain logically.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
Thank You! I used to think the maulvi's premise was true but was not very comfortable with it. Thank You for making things clear. God Bless You.
asadseed 1 year ago
@asadseed
Let me tell you a simple secret about Islam and Quran:
When you see or hear being done in name of Islam, and it does not make sense to you, then check it out from Quran.chances are the mullahs are twisting quran by fabricated Hadith for their own biases /sects. Been there done that.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
This video is here for more then 14 days and I only saw it first time today, shouldnt we make is lie public and tell every one what we have been told, how our sacred Quran is missused, and we dont even bother to check the authenicity? send this video to all your friends and family , this is the best education we can give to the next generation , atleast they would not believe in all that is told without a proper check
anokhaladla007 1 year ago
@anokhaladla007
Please share it along with as many as possible. Spread the light of Quran. Educate everyone with Quran's commandments so that Mullahs cant abuse it against humanity.
thanks
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
QUTTILU TAQTILLA (KILL THIS BASTARD MULLA THOROUGHLY) . HE IS SPREADING RUMOURS (FALSE NEWS/INFORMATION)
habibmangi 1 year ago
جاہل مولوی۔ جاہلیت، بدمعاشی، دھوکہ دہی اس کا ٹریڈ مارک ہے
FjordHawk 1 year ago
LOOK HOW HE (BASTARD PRACHA) IS INSULTING PARVEEZ BY SAYING, "HAM PARVEZ SAHIB KO YEH HAQ NAHI DE SAKTE KE WO ISLAM KE SHIANE BAN JAIN". HE HIM SELF IS PLAYING WITH THE WORD OF ALLAH (NAUZUBILLAH) AND COMMITTING BLASPHEMY.
habibmangi 1 year ago
@habibmangi HAS PERVAIZ SAHIB FUCKED YOUR MOTHER, PRACHA JI?
habibmangi 1 year ago
@habibmangi
DEar HAbib, can you please refrain from proganity and swearing? If we do this, then there is no difference between us and them. Could you please remove your comments and re-post them without swearing? I can do this as well, but I am sure that you wll kindly understand my understand and do the needful your self.
:-)
Thankyou very much for your posts and visits.
Regards
PS: Please do keep visiting and commenting though. :-)
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
Well I will not like to rate the gentlemen posing as Ulemas as any kind of clerics of Islam. In a Islamic society there is no difference between such people and the likes of them in other religions in other words these are commoners posing as clerics only because they are sporting a beard. So please distinguish between a commoner posing as a cleric. The real culprit here is the news channel playing along these commoners and supporting their brand of Islam.
saamirr1963 1 year ago
We should only blame ourselves, for giving the Qur'an and Sunnah in contract to these Contractors of Deen. We do not learn Qur'an, recite it for SAWAB only, we need Mullah to recite Adhan to new born, funeral prayers, where as we can do it ourselves. There no concept of Priesthood, Mullah in Islam, yes scholars are required to teach and guide not misguide. Our society has degenerated so this branch also. JAZAK ALLAH. peace-forum.blogspot.com/
Abbujak 1 year ago
@Abbujak
I agree with you fully and hence my effort to highlight the issue.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
“..they pervert the words from their context and thus distort their meaning,… and regarding all except a few of them you continue to learn that they committed acts of treachery… Pardon them” (Qur’an;5:13). “… who pervert the words of Allah, taking them out of context in order to distort their meaning. .. For them there is degradation in this world and a mighty chastisement in the Next”(Qur’an 5:41)
Abbujak 1 year ago
Great work sir.RESPECT FOR YOU !
These mullahs are the biggest threat to Islam
auzer1000 1 year ago
I myself went through the translation and agree that the point view shown on the TV program is totally flawed and misleading the general public. These are the people who are the biggest threat to Islam. Allah please save us from them ameen !!
Learner267 1 year ago
Only Aalims have the right to comment? Which aalims, those can't seem to agree on anything based on what their Imam says? Is the Qur'an for Khaas or Naas? You decide. There is no more excuses to stay away from the Qur'an as multiple side by side translations are available on the net. Try islamawakend website to read 20 plus side-by-side translations/interpretations!!
mubashir56 1 year ago
Please like the page "Kafir, Kafir, Farid Pracha Kafir" in facebook to show that you are against the distortion of Quran by these JAHIL MULLAHS. THANKS
habibmangi 1 year ago
Thank you so much for making this video
TheFahadLaghari 1 year ago
According to the REAL verses this bastard mullah, Paracha need to be killed
yadishansar 1 year ago 7
@yadishansar
According to the verse 60 (which this bastard mullah ommitted) says , "They have a disease in their hearts and spread rumours and false news"...... continued in 61 ....."are cursed and should be seized and killed thoroughly". It looks these two verses are for this mother fucker Pracha type of people.
habibmangi 1 year ago
awesome video bro really aweosem
harisnaru 1 year ago
Assallam allekum, brothers please ready by yourself
quranexplorer(.)com/Quran/Default.aspx (33-Al-Ahzab , verses 55 to on-ward
tahir2K9 1 year ago
jitni zarorat thi quote kerny ki,utni he ker di hai...is me kia ghalat baat ki hai paracha sahab ne??????
simplegirl106 1 year ago
@simplegirl106
Did you even watch the video? Paracha used verse #57 which talked about "those who annoy the Prophet" and then jumps to 61 which says that they are cursed and orders Muslims to kill them. The problem is that "Kill them" is not about those who blaspheme or insult the Prophet but about those mentioned in #58-60 i.e. those who used to disturb the wives of the Prophet and the hypocrites who were spreading false rumors against Islam.
optimistsRUS 1 year ago
@optimistsRUS
Very simple question: How can you "annoy " the Prophet when he has been dead (PBUH) for more than 1400 years????
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
Bro I agree with your POV 100% and I was responding to simplegirl106's naive comment.
optimistsRUS 1 year ago
@optimistsRUS
Yes I know what you were doing for Quran (and me :-)
Thanks for your help.
I was just giving more thoughts about the mullahs interpretation of the verses.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
:)
Jazak Allah for your efforts. Yours is the only video I know of that exposes this fraud. In the western world at least someone from the mainstream media would have caught it, or at least a journalist from some minor outlet would have caught it. In Pakistan the job is left to the people and not many people are actively blogging or contributing to sites such as youtube.
optimistsRUS 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims THIS VERSE IS NOT APPLICABLE NOW BECAUSE THE PROPHET IS NO MORE LIVING AND NO ONE CAN ANNOY HIM.
habibmangi 1 year ago
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smrh11 1 year ago
Yes, this moulvee lied about verses in another program as well, and I went and opened the quran and was so shocked to see how he was lying right through his teeth.
But what is more disturbing is the audience clapping for lying moulvee? what an alarming situation of common people's sentiments. This is what moves people in pakistan? lies?
smrh11 1 year ago 5
@smrh11
I agree with your comment about the audience.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
Thanks allot for showing the real face of this Bastard fake mulla's
xohaibkhan 1 year ago
The speaker in the video has all the right to criticise those two Islamic/Scholarsin video, if has has obtained that much knowledge and education in Islam and Quran, if he has got life long education for Quranic understanding. Otherwise just on the basis of simple and casual reading of translation, he has no right to say anything authoritative. First educate yourself, then say anything big!!!
sayefhussain 1 year ago
@sayefhussain
thanks for your comment.
I have uploaded another video about whether a "non allim" is Quran's concern or not. Has Allah addresses "AALims" only or has addressed EVERYONE in His Book. Please Have a look.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
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gurukhawer 1 year ago
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gurukhawer 1 year ago
@sayefhussain, dude it means we all (except those mullahs) are assholes?
arifh06 1 year ago 3
Ok, leaving aside whether the Islamic scholars speaking in the video had done all these rightly or wrongly, or done anything bad intentionally, I simply want to know if the person who had made the video, and commenting from behind, is a proper Islamic/Quranic scholar or not; whether he had spent his whole time in learning Quran, understanding the whole Quran properly or not. Allah has made Quran very easy to understand, but not that easy to understand it by reading the translation casually.
sayefhussain 1 year ago
@sayefhussain by all means tell us the true meaning O enlightened one ?
is it the meaning what the two mulvis say it is ?
and further you speak with words discouraging others into going in the Quran and learning its meaning and verifying anyone who gives reference to the Holy Book. Do you mean that we should never share knowledge with another person because we are not certified scholars ? im sorry il have to respectfully disagree then
d3s0lator 1 year ago
Awesome Job Brother....May Allah Bless you. I agree that we dont need mullahs to do interpret quran for us. Its not possible that Allah made Quran and then did not give us enough brain to understand it. Every person has enough power to understand it without anyones help.
schazy85 1 year ago
آل عمران
Ayat no. 7
اِس کتاب میں دو طرح کی آیات ہیں: ایک محکمات، جو کتاب کی اصل بنیاد ہیں اور دوسری متشابہات جن لوگوں کے دلو ں میں ٹیڑھ ہے، وہ فتنے کی تلاش میں ہمیشہ متشابہات ہی کے پیچھے پڑے رہتے ہیں اور اُن کو معنی پہنانے کی کوشش کیا کرتے ہیں،
Note: This is the part of verse no. 7. Please see Ref. al-Imran verse no 7.
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zeeshan283 1 year ago
@zeeshan283
Whats your point Zeesha? I did not quite get it?
Thanks for the post though and I completely agree with you about this verse.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
میں یہ کہنا چاہتا ہوں کہ یہ لوگ آیات کو اپنے بیان میں خاص مقصد کے لیے استمعال کرتے ہیں اور اُس آیت کو سیاق و سباق سے ہٹا کر بیان کر کے آیت کو اپنے نقطہء نظر مین ڈھالنے کی کو شش کرتے ہیں یہ آیت جو میں نے پوسٹ کی تھی اِن جیسے لو گوں کے ایسے اِرادوں کا پردہ فاش کرتی ہے۔
zeeshan283 1 year ago
@zeeshan283
Thanks Zeeshan.
Regards
I agree with you man.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
thank you =)
starandstyle 1 year ago
Thank you so much for taking time out and posting this video. I am very happy that there are people who are using their mind instead of falling for the answers of Ullama by considering them more educated then everyone else. We don't need a PhD degree to understand quran. We just need a mind that THINKS :)
greatabeer 1 year ago
which quran website were u showing...I like the different translations. please give the web address
mujahid10 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims m also talkin about authenticity of Hadith. Allah Tallah hum sub ko Hadith ata keray. AsslamuAlaikum...!!!
And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness. Al Furqan
Qasim4862 1 year ago
@Qasim4862
I agree Qasim, May Allah help us
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
My apologies for writing wrong words while talking to you. I have removed my comment
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@Qasim4862
And thanks for correcting me.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
Similarly, there are many instances in history as quoted by these Aalims when the Prophet (PBUH) himself ordered for death punishment for the person who showed disrespect to our Prophet (PBUH).
krmalik1 1 year ago
I think, this man has very rightly pointed out the mistakes in this video. I would also request you to have some evidence from Sunnah and Hadees cause we have to be sure if a death punishment is applicable for Gustakhe-Rasool (PBUH). There are many things which are not mentioned in detail in Quran but have been clarified by the Prophet (PBUH) e.g Namaz (salat) is Faraz in Quran but details of how to pray and how many rakats were clarified by the Prophet.
krmalik1 1 year ago
@krmalik1
Allah has spelled haram and halal to finest detail but forgot to include death sentence for apostasy and blasphemy? I think not. Any "purported" hadeeth that is against Quran is obviously a fabrication in history since Prophet would never say anything against Allah's Words. If it were to be a general direction then it wuold have been clear in quran with no room for ambiguity at all
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
Thanks for the video.
the comments are saddening though
but there is always a light at the end of the tunnel :)
golgappaywala 1 year ago
MogliBananaNose .salman taseer hell me hey cuz usnay gustakh-e-rasoll s.a.w kee support kee hey .aur rahee tumharee baat kay blasphemy law khutum kurdo dunya kay kisi country me koi bhee ghustakhi kuray gaa hazoor pak s.a.w kay liya uski saza sirf death .cuz koi bhee muslim eyein burdasht nahee kursukta kay hazoor pak s.a.w kee shan mey koi insult ka soch sukay .salman taseer kutta tha aur kuttay kee mout mur gaya hurmat-e- rasool s.a.w pur jaan bhee qurbaan.
allahkasoldier 1 year ago
Thank You!!
naveedahmed1983 1 year ago
Great work! ...hats off!....but some of us are already at the point of no return when it comes to ignorance and stupidity...for example instead of pondering on the main point that you have raised in this video that how these mullahs are manipulating Quarnic verses to suit their sick argument, some moron is trying to tell you that you can't read Arabic! Haqeeqat Khurafat Mein Kho Gayee,Yeh Ummat Rawaiat Mein Kho Gayee.
The truth was lost in vain disputes,And the nation was lost in traditions
punjabigeo 1 year ago
Sir,
I admire you for making the effort to research, make and pubish this clip. The problem in our society is not the rabid mullahs, it is people like us who have been bestowed with gifts like reason, logic and education but choose not to use them.
I found the following ayat (Sura R'ad 13:40) very relevant to the discussion.
Whether We show you (O Muhammad SAW) part of what We have promised them or cause you to die, your duty is only to convey (the Message) and on Us is the reckoning.
smwaraich 1 year ago
@smwaraich
Thanks a lot.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
good effort mashallah.
SuperNickel78 1 year ago
thanks for posting this...
Obviosuly I would not have gone to the Quran and verified this myself, and this is why we are cheated by mullahs
fatimasoomro 1 year ago
Ab zara sochiye, this is their punishment Allah is declaring only due to the reason that they spread rumors regarding RasoolALLAh and his family in madina. So how about disgracing RasoolALLAh directly? Isnt it clearly mentioning the blesphemy law? :)
aaq222 1 year ago
@aaq222
Its not blasphemy law. It is direct address TO PROPHET what to do to these people at his own hand. Read the verses from start again. you already do understand they were spreading "rumours" about Rasool and his fmaily in Medina. they have now been DEAD for 1400 years.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
its nto the matter of 1400 years later or before or anything, the verse is talking about Munafiqs, and not they are limited in the time span, they are living up today as well, they were not in numbers rite then as well, this is why ALLAH SWT is saying "kill them WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM", Jahan milain maar dalo, it is not at all specific to those only, like the verses
aaq222 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
in Quran where Allah SWT is addressing Muslimoon, so according to you, is it refered to the muslims who were living in the life time of RasoolALLAH only? and it is not applicable to the muslims now after 1400 Years? Does it make sense to you honestly? If yes, we are involved in conclusion-less debate.
aaq222 1 year ago
@aaq222
"in Quran where Allah SWT is addressing Muslimoon, ...."
Which verses are you talking about?
There are verses like "O Prophet, those people who argue WITH YOU, or HURT YOU (in person).... In such verses the orders would be directly related to those partular situations in PROPHET's time only . But quote exact verses and I can talk about them . Thanks
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
Unless i will quote them who will say you dont know about those verses? gud enough. : )
You know and your hearts knows, that there are verses in Quran where Muslimoon were addresses, Mominoon were addresses, mominaat were addressed and etc etc. So you want me to quote one of them?
take this one for you satisfaction.
aaq222 1 year ago
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@AreWeMuslims
God and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye THAT BELIEVE! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.
So is it for those only who were living in Prophet's time, todays Believers shall not send blessings on him? :)
aaq222 1 year ago
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@AreWeMuslims
God and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.
In this verse Allah is saying O YE WHO BELEIVE, which is addressing to all. you can beleive whatever you want to. My job is to convey message. Rest is between you and Allah.
aaq222 1 year ago
and those who stir up sedition in the city, means spread rumors and dirty things regarding RasoolALLAH and His ehl e bayt in the city of Madina, they are being talked about in this verse, and they are the ones who are being ordered to kill without mercy in the next verse?? Is this the case?
aaq222 1 year ago
@aaq222
Yeah you are right. And they are being talked about DIRECTLY to Prophet (In Medina) not AFTER PRophet died 1400 years ago. These verses are a direct address to Prophet WHEN HE WAS ALIVE>
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
So the verse is supposed to INVALID in quran NOW? : )
It is giving you a Law against these blesphemors. All the incidents recorded in Quran, are during the life period of RasoolALLAH (SAW), so all the laws after Him shall be eliminated? No point.
aaq222 1 year ago
@aaq222
Also, how can the kuffar "hurt" the Prophet when he has been gone for 1400 years?
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
Dear read thoroughly, the verse is talking about is HYPOCRITE (NOT KUFFARS), And who are hypocrites? those who are muslims (In Front), but they disease in their hearts (Means they are Munafiq keeping Bughz for RasoolALLAH in their hearts).
aaq222 1 year ago
@aaq222
Again, what does sedition mean? Look it up in dictionary. it is not rumours-- it is high treason and rebellion. thas what is to be punished since they(kuffars) have a "disease" in thier hearts.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
For whom the verse number 61 is ordering of killing without mercy? Those who were discussed in the above verses? or some other xyz and abc people? :) Okay, lets say, in verse number 61 Allah SWT ordered to kill those who were discussed in verse number 60, then who are they in verse number 60? They are those hypocrites, who are having BUGHZ in their hearts (For RasoolALLAH),
aaq222 1 year ago
@aaq222
"For whom the verse number 61 is ordering of killing without mercy?" Yeah kill the ones who were hurting beleivers and Prophets and his family in MEDINA. Read it again. The people Quran was referreing to have been dead for `1400 years now. You cant mix this verse with MOCKING and JESTING against Prophets which has always happened at hands of non-belevers.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@aaq222
Allah addreses Propeht Muhammad (PBUH):
21:36. When disbelievers see you, they do nothing but take you in jest (saying to one another,) .Is this the one who talks of your gods?. _ while they themselves reject even talking of the RaHman (All-Merciful).
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
[33:60]
Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time:
[33:61]
They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).
aaq222 1 year ago
@aaq222
HAve you actually looked up meaning of sedition: It means high treason and rebellion and not just "rumours". Research well before you "decide:" what verse means.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
So my point is simple and straight, you are trying to FIX verse to the people in RasoolALLAH's time, and reject them after His life. And i believe, the incidents happened made the laws untill the day of judgement comes. you have to read it again "[33:60] Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease,"
Man, it is quite clear, THOSE is whose hearts is a disease and so on... IT IS NOT ONLY SPECIFIC TO THE HYPOCRITES LIVING IN RASOOLALLAH's Time. Consult an aalim.
aaq222 1 year ago
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aaq222 1 year ago
@aaq222
In this verse Allah is saying O YE WHO BELEIVE, which is addressing to all. you can beleive whatever you want to. My job is to convey message. Rest is between you and Allah.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
Exactly this is my point, O YE WHO BELIEVE, and the other verse of Surah e Ahzab, Allah SWT is talking about
"IF THE HYPOCRITES THOSE WHO HAVE DISEASE IN THEIR HEARTS" ....... so how can you fix it to those Munafiqs only? It is for all. I have also tried to make u understand, that you need to go in deep to understand more correctly, now rest is between u and Allah.
aaq222 1 year ago
@aaq222
Also, The verse is :
Muhammad Taqi Usmani 33: 57. Surely, those who annoy Allah and His Messenger are cursed by Allah in this world and in the Hereafter, and He has prepared for them a humiliating punishment.
Tahir al-Qadri 33: 57. Surely those who offend Allah and His Prophet, Allah curses them in the world and in the Hereafter and He has prepared for them a disgraceful torment.
so how do you "offend" Prophet when he is dead already? The verse talks about Prophet's lifetime
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@aaq222
The preceding verse also says IN MEDINA. where do you fit that?? :-) so no mushrekeen in medina, then verse is not applicable if you are really following the verse in true spirit of word. you still have not looked up SEDITION.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims
Also, The verse is :
Muhammad Taqi Usmani 33: 57. Surely, those who annoy Allah and His Messenger are cursed by Allah in this world and in the Hereafter, and He has prepared for them a humiliating punishment.
Tahir al-Qadri 33: 57. Surely those who offend Allah and His Prophet, Allah curses them in the world and in the Hereafter and He has prepared for them a disgraceful torment.
so how do you "offend" Prophet when he is dead already? The verse talks about Prophet's lifetime
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
[33:59]
O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And God is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful.
aaq222 1 year ago
[33:56]
God and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.
[33:57]
Those who annoy God and His Apostle - God has cursed them in this World and in the Hereafter, and has prepared for them a humiliating Punishment.
[33:58]
And those who annoy believing men and women undeservedly, bear (on themselves) a calumny and a glaring sin.
aaq222 1 year ago
You have done a wonderful job to revealing these crappy molvies who would do anything to blackmail in the name of religion.
ekarus 1 year ago
a gr8 job... thx a lot for sharing such information
dervashnoty 1 year ago
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mansoorn 1 year ago
Okay, okay, I was trying to be nice to them but your may be right. If they deliberately twist and omit Qur'anic verses to make a point then they are grossly guilty before the Ummah and more important, before Allah.
mubashir56 1 year ago
Few problems with your position. Number 1, These are NOT scholars by any stretch of imagination...none whatsoever!! If you wanna know who truly is a scholar, Google Muhammad Asad (Leopold Weiss) who was fluent in Hebrew and Aramaic, well versed in Torah, other Talmudic traditions and the New Testament. Asad spent numerous years with the Bedouin Arabs to learn classical Arabic so that he could understand Quran.
mansoorn 1 year ago
@mansoorn
Muhammad Assad's translation is one of my mainstays for Quranic Translation. you should read his other books as well : Road to Mecca and "this law of ours". IN the latter, apparently he talks about our dependance on "ijtihad" and "interpretation" by our imams and our blind following. I have not read it yet, but thats what previews say. I will order it over amazon insha Allah.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims: In Asad's interpretation of Quran, in the appendix, he has elaborated with surgical precision what "Symbolism and Allegories" in Quran mean and why it is important to understand differences between Ayaat Al Muhkamaat and Ayaat Al Mutashabihaat. If you send me your email address (via Youtube email) , I will email that article to you.
mansoorn 1 year ago
@mansoorn
I do have one of his Translation in hard copy. I know what you are referring to. This is also position of many others . Zamakhshari is anohter big name in this regard. Unfortunately his tafseer of quran is in arabic and no english translation has been done so far.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@mansoorn
"These are NOT scholars by any stretch of imagination...none whatsoever" Scholar or no scholar, these people are the very people who endorse such terrorism in name of religion. Effect and result is important in this particular case irrespective of the tool used to acheive it. they need to be countered.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
Second, these are NOT mistakes!! These are willful and intended efforts to assert their unfair and destructive influence for their own benefit.
mansoorn 1 year ago 14
عجب نہیں کہ خدا تک تری رسائی ہو
تری نگاہ سے ہے پوشیدہ آدمی کا مقام
تری نماز میں باقی جلال ہے، نہ جمال
تری اذاں میں نہیں ہے مری سحر کا پیام
علامہ اقبال
mansoorn 1 year ago
Muslim scholars are humans, prone to mistakes and must be judged by Al Furqan. They must also be taken to task when they read hadees fabrications into the Qur'an and twist Qur'anic verses. That said, we, common people must and must get into the habit of regularly reading multiple translations of Allahs Final Message
mubashir56 1 year ago 2
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mansoorn 1 year ago
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mansoorn 1 year ago
@mubashir56
Very well said. IF we all do that, these bigots will loose their effect and influence.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
سخت باریک ہیں امراض اُمم کے اسباب
کھول کر کہیے تو کرتا ہے بیاں کوتاہی
mansoorn 1 year ago
Yes we have to read and understand Quran Kareem but we cant negate the importance of Muslim Scholars in order to rightly understand it.
Qasim4862 1 year ago
Media not at all represents Islam or even any other thing just as Pakistani Movies not represent Pakistanis. Secondly this Peracha is not a Muslim Scholar, thirdly we can't judge all Ulemas by pointing out few. Then neither Peracha nor this... guy in this videop has rightly explained what is being said by Allah Tallah (SWT) in his Book. You need context, you need the interpretations of Sahab e Ikram (RA), you need the interpretations of Tabaeen (RA)
Qasim4862 1 year ago
@Qasim4862
"you need the interpretations of Sahab e Ikram (RA), you need the interpretations of Tabaeen (RA)" so you are saying Allah did not give a clear message which needs explanation by humans? Quran asserts otherwise. There are more than 11 verses in Surah Bawara ALONE that say "We have sent down clear messages and verses"
(2:221)And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember.
Be careful before accusing Allah that His Message needs human clarification.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims and be very very careful my brother before accusing Shab e Ikram (RA) that they wrongly interpreted the message of Allah SWT. because they were present at that time, they were among the company of Rasullulah SAW they used to ask Prophet SAW about the meaning of the ayats, their mother language was Arabic, they were the best among Humans, their credibility cannot be denied and their eeman cannot be challenged. can anybody challenge them just by studying the translation???
Qasim4862 1 year ago
@Qasim4862
Sahaba did what they did, we are not answerable for their actions and nor are they responsible for our actions. This prinicple is clarified in Quran SEVERAL times.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims Allah Tallah hum sub ko Hadiat ata keray...According to one Hadith of Rasoollah SAW, the best among Humans is one who learns Quran n teaches it. so plz now dont deny the importance of learning Quran, we cant understand properly unless and untill we have good command over Arabic language. so if anyone wants to get his own interpretation of Quran, he has to learn the language thoroughly. if u dont trust interpretation of Saha e Ikram then why are you trusting the translation....
Qasim4862 1 year ago
@Qasim4862
Even if you watned to understand what Sahaba thought quran said , you would still need to depend on translations. So better read Quran translation rather translation of what sahaba thought. and no one has a video record of any sahaba or prophet giving lessons in Quran. So we dont know what really did Prophet say or not.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@Qasim4862 ....of other ppl. not only language but he must have good command over the entire life of Rasoolah SAW in order to get the context and what was the reaction of Rasoollah (SAW) on any directive given by Allah SWT, now for Allah Sake dont say that Rasssolah's SAW interpretation is also not acceptable to you. my point is u need to learn Quran to understand it not jus read the translation and give ur own fatwa. Allah SWT hum sub ko Hadaith ata keray Ameen
Qasim4862 1 year ago
@Qasim4862 ur problem is bigger than what i thought ..u r now denying the Hadith of Rasoolah SAW which is being collected and protected by Sahabe Ikram RA and Tabaeen RA. my dear friend do you have any record of Quran being revealed to Prophet SAW. Quran was preserved by Sahab e Ikram (RA), it is not being sent as any book by Allah SWT, then why are u accepting Quran and denying Hadith. when u dont trust Sahab eIkram on Haidth then y r u trusting them on Quran (Nazoobillah Suma Nazoobilah)
Qasim4862 1 year ago
file:///D:/mimi/Islam%20Question%20and%20Answer%20-%20Ruling%20on%20one%20who%20insults%20the%20Prophet%20(peace%20and%20blessings%20of%20Allaah%20be%20upon%20him).htm :)
897rebel 1 year ago
@897rebel
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AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
Great video MashAllah I appreciate if you make more video on this topic
PROUD2BAHMADI 1 year ago
I dont like this but I really love this video this video all base on truth.
PROUD2BAHMADI 1 year ago
Such a great work Brother you have shown the real face of this Liar Mullahs
PROUD2BAHMADI 1 year ago
gustak-e-rasool s.a.w kee saza sirf death hey jo koi bhee porre dunya mey hazoor pak s.a.w kee shan mey ghustakhi kuray gaa usko zinda rehnay ka koi huq nahee aur raha salman taseer woh hell mey hey aur usko maarnay wala mumtaz qadri hero hey aur agur tum muslim hoo tu tum allah say maafi maango .
allahkasoldier 1 year ago
@allahkasoldier Aap ko Allah sey maafi mangni chahiye, aur Salman Taseer key bachon se bhi, key aap ney insaan par EVIDENCE key beghair ilzam lagaya. Mumtaz Qadri QAATIL ney apna dimagh nahin use kiya, us ne kisi molvi key speech key baad jazbati qatal ki. Iss blasphemy law ko zaroor change karna chahiye taakay aap jesay log jo nakli ilzaam laga key logon ko qatal yaan jail karany ke haq mein hein iss law ka faida nahin uttha saktein SABOOT KE BEGHAIR. Yeh blasphemy law zaroor BLACK LAW hai.
MogliBananaNose 1 year ago
By the Way, It seemed like you were reading Qur'an for the first time. You had a lot of trouble and still made mistakes in reciting the so often recited Ayah.
InspiredTidings 1 year ago
@InspiredTidings
Thats because this is in Uthmani script and not the one I was trained in (our script uses lot of "alifs" whereas in this one they have used "kharee zabar" like notation in place of Alif. just open the link to any quran online site and try different scripts :-)
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@InspiredTidings: That is NOT the point, here! Quit being a typical desi!
mansoorn 1 year ago
@InspiredTidings ... its not his quran arabic reading test going on here. it depends that whatever u read just understand its true meaning!! .. people read arabic so fluently but they dont even know what it means! atleast he is better than that.
SuperNickel78 1 year ago
- The other guy wanted to point towards 9:12 and he mistakenly said 'ayah 13'. Ayah 12 deals with the blasphemy issue. So its just a mistake of reference.
InspiredTidings 1 year ago
@InspiredTidings
thanks for pointing out.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@InspiredTidings
009.013 Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is Allah Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe!
Al-Qur'an, 009.013
WHERE in THIS VERSE you get GO OUT AND MURDER?
QuranVsHadith 1 year ago
- It is not necessary that the guy did it on purpose, but even If he did that's the mistake on 'one-person'. The reason I think he didn't do it on purpose is because there are many clear-cut narrations on the issue, and single-ayaat dealing with the issue which leave no doubt as to what the punishment is. So, he doesn't need to twist and turn the Qur'an to prove the point. (May Allah Forgive Him)
InspiredTidings 1 year ago
@InspiredTidings
I agree with you regarind with a mistake thingy. However, it can not be ignored if the result is a mob beleiving in his "mistake" bent upon killing people.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
@AreWeMuslims .... but if he does not remember the whole ayat that u dont say it in front of the whole world. because in these things u should be accurate . its not a novel that he eats the middle part and then reading the last part !
SuperNickel78 1 year ago
@InspiredTidings kindly guide us to the other places where the Holy Book guides us into such conclusions ? (please give primary source that can be verified)
d3s0lator 1 year ago
Bhai, this is possibly one of the best videos I have seen! MashAllah, you have inspired me to bring out the stupidities that I also see on TV in the name of religion, like you have so successfully done so. May God give you happiness in this life and the hereafter, and may God bless you and your loved ones. JazaakAllah, brother. There is nothing else I can say. JazaakAllah.
momekh 1 year ago
WeAreMuslims has done a great job.
Pervez456 1 year ago
WeAreMuslims have done a great job. This is precisely what is needed to counter these Thekedars of Islam who have, like all Thekedars, amaseesd a lot of money, earlier from USA and now from well maening Pakistan. There agenda is purely political - they are only trying to stirr up an issue for the next election.
Bravo, WeAreMuslims. God bless you.
Pervez456 1 year ago
these clerics should be forced to provide evidence every time they quote a verse specially on tv. they should be told to show slides of all the verses along with their corresponding verses.
the audience, host and all the guests are so naive and actually lacking knowledge about quran that they were convinced right away. educated people should spend some time reading and understanding quran so they can debate such clerics. its our own fault that these mullaz have become guardians of religion
madiha610 1 year ago
@madiha610
I fully concur with you on all points. Please share with others. ITs now or never.
AreWeMuslims 1 year ago
the biggest problem in pak society right now i think is that we (most of us) have not read quran in our language. we don't understand it but we follow it. we follow whatever version of quran these hate filled mullahz preach. and these mulviz have made religion their business. our holy book is in the hands of these illiterate 'hypocrites', and the literate ppl of the country don't spend any time on researching and using their own brain to interpret quran.
madiha610 1 year ago
so you're saying that these two verses are inter-related:
If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verify shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. 33:60
AND
Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter. 33:61
sounds like the terrorists & mullahz to me. thanks for pointing it out. we mostly believe the mullahz just to avoid researching
madiha610 1 year ago
@madiha610
Quran is an interesting book. It touches an issue here , and then kinda puts it aside to discuss some other issue, only to return to the original issue it was discussing. One therefore, sees recurrent themes scattered throughout The Book. However, it does not mean that it does not have any order to it. One c