yes , Joker is right - see Wikipedia "Warner Oland" article for links to more about it. As for stereotypes, yes..those were white man's days but some of the best and first films with respectful roles for Asians..."gotta start somewhere" I think was the idea. Look at tv today....we do better re: black than Asian still. Sinophile here - happy holidays!
I don't think I could have said it better than Keye Luke, considering the period. But I will add, that as I child I loved these movies - and probably coloured they way I thought of the orientals and in particular the chinese. I got the impression that they could be smart, hard working and family oriented. Did that make me a racist?
Furthermore, at that time there were no Orientals around that could have possibly played that part, for one thing. They might have some today, but I don't know of any - that is, those that fit the Chan image - you know, that portly, genial sort of character. KEYE LUKE, 1985
Well, I call it artistry. I think that regardless of race, color, background, so on - if a man can create a character which you can believe, he is an artist and is entitled to the distinction of artistry, and I don't think race has a thing to do about it. KEYE LUKE, 1985
Biggers, who disliked the Yellow Peril stereotypes he found when he came to California, explicitly conceived of the character as an alternative to them: "Sinister and wicked Chinese are old stuff, but an amiable Chinese on the side of law and order has never been used." WIKIPEDIA
...Charlie Chan was created by Earl Derr Biggers... while on vacation in Hawaii, he planned a detective novel... 4 years later he was inspired to add a Chinese American police officer to the plot after reading...of Chang Apana (鄭阿平) and Lee Fook,... of the Honolulu police force. WIKIPEDIA
Silly claims of "stereotyping" both deny the presence of typical (and quite obvious) ethnic characteristics and are themselves stereotypal statements. In the case of Charlie Chan movies, those who claim stereotyping have to explain how it is that Chan behaves 180 degrees different from any of his sons.
And to say that when it was a "different time" a "different world" accentuates the need for you to obtain an education. I challenge you to come on campus and decry that racism is a thing of the past. The fact is, racism is still present.
@ctsuccess -You sound like a stupid, naive little college kid. Still wet behind the fucking ears. I'd like to send your ass over to war, and try to be a man instead of some little puke merely repeating what a leftist professor tells you. I live a mile from Stanford, and sleep with Chinese woman. So I'm a racist?
@MrDavearama And you sound like an ignorant reprobate. When did I ever imply that you were a racist? and the fact that you sleep with a chinese woman and live a mile from stanford is demonstrably irrelevant actually. And no, I never said that studying at Stanford makes my opinions more credible. It's the fact that there is racism in these films, which one would know through historical analysis of the time period. If you're ready to argue, at least get the basics right.
@MrDavearama And again, sending my ass over to war...what exactly would that do? And it's irrelevant, but I'm a returning student, and I did join the army right after high school. So no, I'm not a naive little college kid. And most of my professors are definitely not "leftist"
I was astounded by the ignorance present within a plethora of the comments below. As an American Studies major in Stanford, I have been researching derisive stereotypes such as Charlie Chan and Suzie Wong. These characters were indubitably created to enforce the white supremacy ideology of the time, so please, to say that people who are offended by these portrayals are "whining" blatantly portrays your ignorance.
i'm chinese, and i find charlie chan hilarious. to be honest, if i didn't know this was a charlie chan clip, i'd have no idea charlie was supposed to be an asian. this was made in a different time when the social norm was to have a white man in a leading role, even if the character wasn't. screaming racism isn't gonna change history.
on a side note, charlie chan was based on a real life kick ass chinese hawaiian cop called chang apana.
That's just it: It doesn't matter WHAT you do, every time someone feels mistreated, they'll start screaming "racism" until people feel sorry for them and start bowing down for a while. I mean, christ, WHEN did these movies come out, for example? the 30's i think? hell, that's 70-80 years, depending on the actual year, and you can see that people are STILL whining. fact is, no one is EVER going to be happy.
@williamcg1979 If you don't like seeing minorities screaming racism for things that even remotely resemble racism, then working to reduce actual racism in America would be the first step, not blaming them for being overly sensitive after having experienced much pain from actual racism. and we likely have far more instances of real racism that go unnoticed than the instances of minorities falsely crying out racism.
Me: I'll take " Overused defenses when losing an argument for $1000, alex" Trabek: "okay, the answer is "Racist", what is the question?" Me: " what is the accusation most thrown around when one group wants to cry about a member of another group not kissing their ass" Trabek: "Correct for $1000"
See? Even in the rap videos many artists rap about racism and their struggle for equality. You watching Charlie Chan is laughing at another race. Yes, go ahead and follow my lead and watch as many rap videos possible. You might even learn something, bitch.
@143AC Despite the controversy the movies were great.I would always try to figure out who the killers are in the movies before Chan solves the case.I was 99.999999999999999999999999% wrong.But in the future Hollywood may use real Asian actors if they make any more Charlie Chan movies and there are some good candidates.
@EtherealVortex Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize tolerance and acceptance of other cultures were part of brainwashing, faggot. Times have changed, bitch. White, untalented, elitists are no longer needed to play characters of different ethnic backgrounds.
@EtherealVortex you may like this movie, but most asians consider this movie very offensive and something that contributes to racism in america. many whites do agree. you may want to stop being so crass and start seeing things from other people's perspective.
@chris850t i do agree with you that this movie contains many racial stereotypes and would be offensive to most asians people. in fact, they shouldn't even be something people agree or disagree since those are facts.
Crap, is there a sequel posted? I need the scene shortly after this on the plane, where the #2 son is afraid and he tells his Pop he's the best Pop ever. I want to make a video B-DAY card from it.
Great old movies. I bought a DVD collection yesterday of Chan films that has this one on it.....7 films in one set.....they don't get much better than this!
yes , Joker is right - see Wikipedia "Warner Oland" article for links to more about it. As for stereotypes, yes..those were white man's days but some of the best and first films with respectful roles for Asians..."gotta start somewhere" I think was the idea. Look at tv today....we do better re: black than Asian still. Sinophile here - happy holidays!
ellesmithfagan 2 months ago
I don't think I could have said it better than Keye Luke, considering the period. But I will add, that as I child I loved these movies - and probably coloured they way I thought of the orientals and in particular the chinese. I got the impression that they could be smart, hard working and family oriented. Did that make me a racist?
thequietpoet 8 months ago 2
Furthermore, at that time there were no Orientals around that could have possibly played that part, for one thing. They might have some today, but I don't know of any - that is, those that fit the Chan image - you know, that portly, genial sort of character. KEYE LUKE, 1985
thequietpoet 8 months ago
Well, I call it artistry. I think that regardless of race, color, background, so on - if a man can create a character which you can believe, he is an artist and is entitled to the distinction of artistry, and I don't think race has a thing to do about it. KEYE LUKE, 1985
thequietpoet 8 months ago
Biggers, who disliked the Yellow Peril stereotypes he found when he came to California, explicitly conceived of the character as an alternative to them: "Sinister and wicked Chinese are old stuff, but an amiable Chinese on the side of law and order has never been used." WIKIPEDIA
thequietpoet 8 months ago
...Charlie Chan was created by Earl Derr Biggers... while on vacation in Hawaii, he planned a detective novel... 4 years later he was inspired to add a Chinese American police officer to the plot after reading...of Chang Apana (鄭阿平) and Lee Fook,... of the Honolulu police force. WIKIPEDIA
thequietpoet 8 months ago
Silly claims of "stereotyping" both deny the presence of typical (and quite obvious) ethnic characteristics and are themselves stereotypal statements. In the case of Charlie Chan movies, those who claim stereotyping have to explain how it is that Chan behaves 180 degrees different from any of his sons.
theBike45 9 months ago
The figure Charlie Chan was very sympathic anyway for "Whites". You shouldn´t seeall that tooooo political
uff64 10 months ago
Greatest murder mystery , ever
originalmatchgame 10 months ago
So the cleverest character in the movie, the one that runs rings around the white crooks, is a racial stereotype? You learn something new every day.
What was this, Chinese propaganda?
HowlingJoe 1 year ago
Charlie Chan as a asian guy, the Title Charlie Chan comes off as racist!
meayumi 1 year ago
fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cerbaiolo 1 year ago
patriotism used to be the last refuge of a scoundrel now its racists calling anybody they dont like a racist
doctornoooo 1 year ago
Too many people don't understand the difference between racism and stereotypes, they are two different things.
Films, cartoons, comedy, all heavily rely on stereotypes, only these days its limited to whites only.
We live in an age of positive discrimination, i dont care how good the intentions are, its still discrimination.
If we are all truly equal, then we should all be allowed to make fun of/take the piss out of each other, regardless of our colour.
sinbindinchin 1 year ago 8
@sinbindinchin. Love it.
thechriswheelie 1 year ago
And to say that when it was a "different time" a "different world" accentuates the need for you to obtain an education. I challenge you to come on campus and decry that racism is a thing of the past. The fact is, racism is still present.
ctsuccess 1 year ago
@ctsuccess -You sound like a stupid, naive little college kid. Still wet behind the fucking ears. I'd like to send your ass over to war, and try to be a man instead of some little puke merely repeating what a leftist professor tells you. I live a mile from Stanford, and sleep with Chinese woman. So I'm a racist?
MrDavearama 1 year ago
@MrDavearama And you sound like an ignorant reprobate. When did I ever imply that you were a racist? and the fact that you sleep with a chinese woman and live a mile from stanford is demonstrably irrelevant actually. And no, I never said that studying at Stanford makes my opinions more credible. It's the fact that there is racism in these films, which one would know through historical analysis of the time period. If you're ready to argue, at least get the basics right.
ctsuccess 1 year ago
@MrDavearama And again, sending my ass over to war...what exactly would that do? And it's irrelevant, but I'm a returning student, and I did join the army right after high school. So no, I'm not a naive little college kid. And most of my professors are definitely not "leftist"
ctsuccess 1 year ago
I was astounded by the ignorance present within a plethora of the comments below. As an American Studies major in Stanford, I have been researching derisive stereotypes such as Charlie Chan and Suzie Wong. These characters were indubitably created to enforce the white supremacy ideology of the time, so please, to say that people who are offended by these portrayals are "whining" blatantly portrays your ignorance.
ctsuccess 1 year ago
@ctsuccess -you're full of shit. Just because your studying at Stanford doesn't make your
opinions any more credible.
MrDavearama 1 year ago
i'm chinese, and i find charlie chan hilarious. to be honest, if i didn't know this was a charlie chan clip, i'd have no idea charlie was supposed to be an asian. this was made in a different time when the social norm was to have a white man in a leading role, even if the character wasn't. screaming racism isn't gonna change history.
on a side note, charlie chan was based on a real life kick ass chinese hawaiian cop called chang apana.
Joker365 1 year ago 6
alright....when these movies were made ...it was a differnt time...a differnt world..give it up ....people...
yellowsun4 1 year ago
That's just it: It doesn't matter WHAT you do, every time someone feels mistreated, they'll start screaming "racism" until people feel sorry for them and start bowing down for a while. I mean, christ, WHEN did these movies come out, for example? the 30's i think? hell, that's 70-80 years, depending on the actual year, and you can see that people are STILL whining. fact is, no one is EVER going to be happy.
williamcg1979 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
yeah, because you just see that EVERYWHERE *rollseyes*
williamcg1979 1 year ago
@williamcg1979 If you don't like seeing minorities screaming racism for things that even remotely resemble racism, then working to reduce actual racism in America would be the first step, not blaming them for being overly sensitive after having experienced much pain from actual racism. and we likely have far more instances of real racism that go unnoticed than the instances of minorities falsely crying out racism.
valjorama 1 year ago
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williamcg1979 1 year ago
Me: I'll take " Overused defenses when losing an argument for $1000, alex" Trabek: "okay, the answer is "Racist", what is the question?" Me: " what is the accusation most thrown around when one group wants to cry about a member of another group not kissing their ass" Trabek: "Correct for $1000"
williamcg1979 1 year ago
@williamcg1979
Lucky you there isn't a category for "overused joke formats".
givebeesachance 1 year ago
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williamcg1979 1 year ago
See? Even in the rap videos many artists rap about racism and their struggle for equality. You watching Charlie Chan is laughing at another race. Yes, go ahead and follow my lead and watch as many rap videos possible. You might even learn something, bitch.
chris850t 1 year ago
@chris850t Racist is what someone calls you when their losing an argument.
Raymond09871 1 year ago
@Raymond09871 So segregation of the blacks was them losing an argument?
chris850t 1 year ago
Sid Toler was the best of The "Charlie Chan"actors..Although..Warner Olan did a good job in the early sound"CC"murder mysteries.
143AC 1 year ago
The escaped killer here is played by Marc Lawrence..Noel Madison plays one of his henchmen.
143AC 1 year ago
No matter what anyone says..I love"The Charlie Chan"murder mystery movies.
143AC 1 year ago 2
@143AC Despite the controversy the movies were great.I would always try to figure out who the killers are in the movies before Chan solves the case.I was 99.999999999999999999999999% wrong.But in the future Hollywood may use real Asian actors if they make any more Charlie Chan movies and there are some good candidates.
quarqill 1 year ago
Congratulations! You've won the "Racist A**hole of the Year" award!
jpjonesy 1 year ago
This is racist. All this shit is dirty biggot films of the past.
chris850t 1 year ago
@chris850t Fuck off you brainwashed DICK.
EtherealVortex 1 year ago
@EtherealVortex Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize tolerance and acceptance of other cultures were part of brainwashing, faggot. Times have changed, bitch. White, untalented, elitists are no longer needed to play characters of different ethnic backgrounds.
chris850t 1 year ago
@chris850t And yet you call me a "faggot" and "bitch". Haha. Think about it.
EtherealVortex 1 year ago
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chris850t 1 year ago
@chris850t You mean I should take a lesson from rap music and follow your lead and everything is okay? But watching Charlie Chan is bad?
EtherealVortex 1 year ago
@EtherealVortex you may like this movie, but most asians consider this movie very offensive and something that contributes to racism in america. many whites do agree. you may want to stop being so crass and start seeing things from other people's perspective.
valjorama 1 year ago
@chris850t i do agree with you that this movie contains many racial stereotypes and would be offensive to most asians people. in fact, they shouldn't even be something people agree or disagree since those are facts.
valjorama 1 year ago
GREAT STUFF!
jarooism 1 year ago
aww man I was getting into that. Where’s the rest?
sweetmystique32 1 year ago
That scene on the plane is from Charlie Chan at Treasure Island
blakpoet 1 year ago
Crap, is there a sequel posted? I need the scene shortly after this on the plane, where the #2 son is afraid and he tells his Pop he's the best Pop ever. I want to make a video B-DAY card from it.
gatogreensleeves 2 years ago
love these old 'Charlie Chan' movies....he use to put scotch tape on the corners of his eyes to get that Asian look ....old Hollywood!
PlayIt4MeAgainSam 2 years ago
Great old movies. I bought a DVD collection yesterday of Chan films that has this one on it.....7 films in one set.....they don't get much better than this!
johnlorican 2 years ago
what the heck? why just clips ...were
are the full movies?
OnlyBoo1 2 years ago
I'd also lime to se the rest of this movie.
billyguns2 2 years ago
where's the rest of the film!
jaybb 2 years ago
i love these old movies!!!!
Mondensohnmamo 2 years ago