I had a totally realistic dream I was having a discussion with my family about reality, so I demonstrated to my family that if I was awake I wouldn't be able to levitate... I floated up to the ceiling and woke up. :)
Oh look it's doctor evil. DOn't even try to put Jung down there with Frued, mr spanky; obviously dreams are part of the subconscious we wouldn't be having them at night, and Jung made up something Syncronicity, which bridge Subjective and Objective experience.
Furthermore, he says dreams' only use for psychotherapy are 'ice breakers,' but this only says more about American 'ego psychology'- where the patient is your makeshift best friend who agrees with everything you say and tells you to hit a gym/prozac- as opposed to discourses like Lacanian psychoanalysis. Psychotherapy is not a 'go in and share your life' atmosphere, as this doesn't induce stimulating analysis, rather, it's a more distant relationship from the start.
In the beginning and the end, this guy goes out of his way to poke at psychoanalytic dream work, with a 'revolutionary' theory. But it hold's no weight as a criticism because he presented a straw man/ naive portrayal of the role dreams play in psychotherapy. They aren't symbolic "the cat was a metaphor for xyz," but rather they are broken down by how the patient chooses to break their dream down with chosen language.
@christopherson9513 in other words, in psychotherapy the dream is meaningless; only the peculiarities of how it is described matters. regardless, this lecture wasn't a critique of psychotherapy's utilization of dreams
it's funny, I swear 3 of my dreams have been accurate enough 3 events in my life, so accurately as to be able to be labelled precognitive, the details matched quite well
however I reject every single supernatural explanation out there, including anything spiritualist, or whatever, including "psychic powers omg!!111"
in short, nothing religious, spiritual or stupid, this guy's interesting in the way he sums the stuff up, and I agree mostly with his assumptions, despite my awkward experiences~
@noobler9 if you reject supernatural explanations, then how do you explain the striking prescience of those 3 dreams? I'm not compelling you to re-think your dismissal of supernatural explanations, but I am curious as to how you reconcile that attitude to the accuracy of the dreams.
@WellConditionedChimp well, it's not a really "solid" explanation I have, and I don't pretend it is, but it suits my general personal experience fine and as such I feel the following is a useful way of approaching it for me my subconscious does many things "I" am not aware of, I think we all know about what it takes to do something like ride a bike, but you're not necessarily conscious of it I would think some form of pattern recognition that clicks occasionally really well is what it is
@noobler9 personally, I see a lot of general relations between things that are unrelated, for instance, I can easily see a country acting almost as an odd shaped organism in a way, with it's highways being the arteries, this sort of comparative thought is something I don't let run off on it's own, and I think about it whenever I catch myself doing it (not because it's bad innately, but wild guesswork without reflection on it is) so basically, you know intuition? think of it as a "crit" of it
@noobler9 that meaning critical strike, :P lucky shot, whatever something akin to "being in the zone" except I was dreaming, and dreams are about processing information in some way or another that we don't understand really really well yet, I happen to be really good at monitoring my own mental states and recognize when I'm something or another thing typically, and I naturally come about meditation when I feel like it, I'm a very mental based person, schizoid personality disorder apparently
@noobler9 I'm not sure if that would be completely accurate, but I haven't got enough information to challenge it on an objective level, I'd have to analyze others, and so on, to be honest, my empathy is nearly non-existent, I don't communicate at an emotional level at all really, and I don't play around with my emotions, they're very bare usually although the way I display them is strange so people usually get me wrong no I'm not narcissistic, but I do feel that it's relevant information
@noobler9 basically, the idea is that, I use intuition a lot, I do very well when I do, I can also catch logical errors easier than most others typically, and place greater importance on them, it doesn't mean I don't feel a bit sorry for them when I recognize it, and because I analyze reasonably accurate, when I'm focusing on that I can pick it up possibly easier than others even, but it's based on what you'd consider "left brain" thinking and lots of it, and a different thought process too
@noobler9 note, that I view empathy as "a background program" that always runs, almost, and what I do more as an active thing that I start up when I think something is likely that will require that kind of thing so I'm not saying "I'm better at everything" I'm saying that I'm much better when it comes to conscious stuff regarding certain things, and subconsciously typically worse
although I have noticed caffeine kind of allows me to empathize for a while while extra active with racing thoughts
@WellConditionedChimp something like that, although I recognize the terms are a little unfavoured (sub)conscious, they're useful to me, especially for this reference
and I forgot one other thing, sometimes I get an idea and I just think "yes do it go go go go go great carry on keep it up keep thinking more about it, keep coming up with ideas, brainstorm brainstorm"
typically when I do it, my belief is vindicated 6 months to 2 years later, although there's always a twist to my idea used by others, the general idea I revolved everything around still being the same basically when I get a good idea, I start getting worked up suddenly
These are studies of "typical" dreamers. I think just because most people don't solve problems in their dreams, or learn about themselves like Jung thought, doesn't mean that dreams can not be for these purposes. Waking life can be for solving problems or bettering yourself, but just because some do not spend their lives on these things does not mean life should not be for these things.
This was a great lecture about the meaning and purpose of dreams - a sensible and understandable presentation of the lecturers's theories and current knowledge.
but it goes on to cover an almost complete field of empirical research, showing thoroughly how conclusions are drawn and how they relate to different approaches of present research.
I think, it is a fine introduction to the topic of dream experiences.
The only issue, I sense would be the introspective character of dream journals or interviews, which might obscure experience by interpretation.
What - and where - are memories and can they be meassured ?
The "content analysis" by Calvin Hall seems to provide a statistical ckeck, that dream content is not simply made up by individuals - but how much does it reflect mere waking life concepts, than actual experiences?
Rather than to seek to 'dream about the revelation of an assumed methaphoric nature of dreams' - I would suggest to observe more the waking conscience of oneself - like keeping a diary or trying to question basic concepts.
I had a totally realistic dream I was having a discussion with my family about reality, so I demonstrated to my family that if I was awake I wouldn't be able to levitate... I floated up to the ceiling and woke up. :)
Valthepixie 3 months ago
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nice video..thank you for posting. :D
dayspeace 3 months ago
Thanks for sharing this video here. This is so informative and so comprehensive. Indeed, dreams are so mysterious and may be symbolic or metaphoric.
insomniacgrace 3 months ago
Dreams will always be a mystery to us. Mystery is always interesting. Thanks for the discussion.
2011rhythmdivine 5 months ago
Oh look it's doctor evil. DOn't even try to put Jung down there with Frued, mr spanky; obviously dreams are part of the subconscious we wouldn't be having them at night, and Jung made up something Syncronicity, which bridge Subjective and Objective experience.
Resdim 1 year ago
@King100Joe you seem like a cheerful guy
WellConditionedChimp 1 year ago
Furthermore, he says dreams' only use for psychotherapy are 'ice breakers,' but this only says more about American 'ego psychology'- where the patient is your makeshift best friend who agrees with everything you say and tells you to hit a gym/prozac- as opposed to discourses like Lacanian psychoanalysis. Psychotherapy is not a 'go in and share your life' atmosphere, as this doesn't induce stimulating analysis, rather, it's a more distant relationship from the start.
christopherson9513 1 year ago
In the beginning and the end, this guy goes out of his way to poke at psychoanalytic dream work, with a 'revolutionary' theory. But it hold's no weight as a criticism because he presented a straw man/ naive portrayal of the role dreams play in psychotherapy. They aren't symbolic "the cat was a metaphor for xyz," but rather they are broken down by how the patient chooses to break their dream down with chosen language.
christopherson9513 1 year ago
@christopherson9513 in other words, in psychotherapy the dream is meaningless; only the peculiarities of how it is described matters. regardless, this lecture wasn't a critique of psychotherapy's utilization of dreams
WellConditionedChimp 1 year ago
this is very interesing:) thank you for posting UCTV
ethankegley 1 year ago
it's funny, I swear 3 of my dreams have been accurate enough 3 events in my life, so accurately as to be able to be labelled precognitive, the details matched quite well
however I reject every single supernatural explanation out there, including anything spiritualist, or whatever, including "psychic powers omg!!111"
in short, nothing religious, spiritual or stupid, this guy's interesting in the way he sums the stuff up, and I agree mostly with his assumptions, despite my awkward experiences~
noobler9 1 year ago
@noobler9 if you reject supernatural explanations, then how do you explain the striking prescience of those 3 dreams? I'm not compelling you to re-think your dismissal of supernatural explanations, but I am curious as to how you reconcile that attitude to the accuracy of the dreams.
WellConditionedChimp 1 year ago
@WellConditionedChimp well, it's not a really "solid" explanation I have, and I don't pretend it is, but it suits my general personal experience fine and as such I feel the following is a useful way of approaching it for me my subconscious does many things "I" am not aware of, I think we all know about what it takes to do something like ride a bike, but you're not necessarily conscious of it I would think some form of pattern recognition that clicks occasionally really well is what it is
noobler9 1 year ago
@noobler9 personally, I see a lot of general relations between things that are unrelated, for instance, I can easily see a country acting almost as an odd shaped organism in a way, with it's highways being the arteries, this sort of comparative thought is something I don't let run off on it's own, and I think about it whenever I catch myself doing it (not because it's bad innately, but wild guesswork without reflection on it is) so basically, you know intuition? think of it as a "crit" of it
noobler9 1 year ago
@noobler9 that meaning critical strike, :P lucky shot, whatever something akin to "being in the zone" except I was dreaming, and dreams are about processing information in some way or another that we don't understand really really well yet, I happen to be really good at monitoring my own mental states and recognize when I'm something or another thing typically, and I naturally come about meditation when I feel like it, I'm a very mental based person, schizoid personality disorder apparently
noobler9 1 year ago
@noobler9 I'm not sure if that would be completely accurate, but I haven't got enough information to challenge it on an objective level, I'd have to analyze others, and so on, to be honest, my empathy is nearly non-existent, I don't communicate at an emotional level at all really, and I don't play around with my emotions, they're very bare usually although the way I display them is strange so people usually get me wrong no I'm not narcissistic, but I do feel that it's relevant information
noobler9 1 year ago
@noobler9 basically, the idea is that, I use intuition a lot, I do very well when I do, I can also catch logical errors easier than most others typically, and place greater importance on them, it doesn't mean I don't feel a bit sorry for them when I recognize it, and because I analyze reasonably accurate, when I'm focusing on that I can pick it up possibly easier than others even, but it's based on what you'd consider "left brain" thinking and lots of it, and a different thought process too
noobler9 1 year ago
@noobler9 note, that I view empathy as "a background program" that always runs, almost, and what I do more as an active thing that I start up when I think something is likely that will require that kind of thing so I'm not saying "I'm better at everything" I'm saying that I'm much better when it comes to conscious stuff regarding certain things, and subconsciously typically worse
although I have noticed caffeine kind of allows me to empathize for a while while extra active with racing thoughts
noobler9 1 year ago
@noobler9 in other words, your subconscious accurately predicted three events, which were made conscious in your dreams?
WellConditionedChimp 1 year ago
@WellConditionedChimp something like that, although I recognize the terms are a little unfavoured (sub)conscious, they're useful to me, especially for this reference
noobler9 1 year ago
@WellConditionedChimp OH
and I forgot one other thing, sometimes I get an idea and I just think "yes do it go go go go go great carry on keep it up keep thinking more about it, keep coming up with ideas, brainstorm brainstorm"
typically when I do it, my belief is vindicated 6 months to 2 years later, although there's always a twist to my idea used by others, the general idea I revolved everything around still being the same basically when I get a good idea, I start getting worked up suddenly
noobler9 1 year ago
@King100Joe
"jew like you..."
Wow I'm not even Jewish. Do you know what a Jewish person is? You can't even speak English.
"need to be chained to a car and dragged"
oh yeah? a nutless coward like you? you'll do nothing and like it. Learn English if you want to act like a "tough guy" pfff...
CRAPCANNONS 1 year ago
@King100Joe
god you philistines are tiresome...
here will this help?: "genius"
go look up irony in the dictionary, "genius"...
CRAPCANNONS 1 year ago
These are studies of "typical" dreamers. I think just because most people don't solve problems in their dreams, or learn about themselves like Jung thought, doesn't mean that dreams can not be for these purposes. Waking life can be for solving problems or bettering yourself, but just because some do not spend their lives on these things does not mean life should not be for these things.
blaqsparrow 2 years ago
This was a great lecture about the meaning and purpose of dreams - a sensible and understandable presentation of the lecturers's theories and current knowledge.
the3princes 2 years ago
The lecture starts with some stutters and slips -
but it goes on to cover an almost complete field of empirical research, showing thoroughly how conclusions are drawn and how they relate to different approaches of present research.
I think, it is a fine introduction to the topic of dream experiences.
The only issue, I sense would be the introspective character of dream journals or interviews, which might obscure experience by interpretation.
Do we recall dreams as we recall sensations ?
christophmahler 2 years ago 2
What - and where - are memories and can they be meassured ?
The "content analysis" by Calvin Hall seems to provide a statistical ckeck, that dream content is not simply made up by individuals - but how much does it reflect mere waking life concepts, than actual experiences?
Rather than to seek to 'dream about the revelation of an assumed methaphoric nature of dreams' - I would suggest to observe more the waking conscience of oneself - like keeping a diary or trying to question basic concepts.
christophmahler 2 years ago
This is the genius who wrote an essay called "There Are No Conspiracies" (March 2005)
CRAPCANNONS 2 years ago
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'Content analysis' - what reductive nonsense.
1235KR 3 years ago
is this the longest vid on utube?
russianmafia049 3 years ago
no ... many are close to 1 hour 30 minutes
terencelaoshi 3 years ago
I don't know but its freakin dull-witted
Jeansalut 3 years ago