What good did it do for Christ to visit America? According to the Book of Mormon., in less than five centuries they had buried and forgotten their scripture and all "Christians" were destroyed! It was through European missionaries with a Bible, not the Book of Mormon., that Native Americans learned about Christ!
Hahaha this is rediculous!!! The book of mormon is 100% inaccurate it sais that people weilded metals in ancient america.ot sais that there were donkeys and horses before europeans and is talks about cities that there are no trace of! Atleast the bible is acurate in its locations and has a map have you ever seen a map of the book of mormon? No because the maps made match no place in the americas what so ever!! Hahahahaha
Did you know the word "Liahona" has meaning in both Hebrew and Egyptian and translates something along the lines of "pathway of the Son". Also did you know Joseph Smith did not know or have any way of knowing Hebrew or Egyptian. Crazy huh....
The Book of Mormon is true. I have come to know through pondering and praying. You can come to know of its divinity by reading the book with an open heart and mind.
there is no any single artifact related to BoM. Nothing!!! ask general authority!!!! not a single official evidence was found for a hundred years!!!!!
I've been watching a ton of videos about the physical evidence linking to the Book of Mormon. I've been a member for almost 21 years. I know the book of Mormon is true. If it was a sham, how do it's critics explain all of the evidence such as in this video? How did Joseph Smith know all of this then when science hadn't even caught up to it yet? Because the book of Mormon is true, and was translated by the power of God.
"There arrived in this land a man whom they called Quetzacoatl... His countenance was white and he wore a beard. His manner of dress consisted of a long white robe... He was considered just, saintly, and good, teaching them by deeds and words the road to virtue... He gave them laws and sane doctrine... He said that in the year that would be called Ce Acatl, He would return and then His doctrine would be accepted, and his children Lords and heirs of the earth."
How come the second coming did not happen when Joseph Smith gave us the date? - "It is the will of the Lord that those who went to Zion, with a determination to lay down their lives, if necessary, should be ordained to the ministry, and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, or the coming of the Lord, which was night -- even fifty-six years, should wind up the scene", Joseph Smith Jr., 1891, (The History of the Church, vol II, page 182)
@soniabrentnatasha Your being duped. The book of mormon fails to describe anything in the real world. people, languages,geography or animals are a total miss fit.
It's a tale of fiction. Read it and asks yourself, How is this real history?
Nahum is also a book in the Bible...Joe must have been pick up on the name of the prophet and crossed in over into his storybook. Notwithstanding how the memory of a man works in such matters...is common place among novel writers to shank out names from where they have read or know, no biggy.
@Rypaul5217 Nahum is definitely a book (named after a man) in the Bible. Of course, that isn't what this clip is about. This is about a PLACE called "Nahom," not a MAN named "Nahum." I'm not trying to argue this fact in favor of the Book of Mormon, I'm just pointing out a clear distinction.
@Rypaul5217 Highly recommend you read the book and also the DVD that goes with it "Lehi in the Wilderness - 81 Evidences...." And then come back and say "no biggy".
@leeuniverse Thats correct, no biggy, just muffing cotton tale foxes sewing with invisible thread. Hyrum and Joseph...NHM is not complete, but note, Nahum is also a book in the Bible, Joe Smith copied 216 KJV Bible verses, including the writings of St Paul; this was his trick, to copy and lift what ever he wanted to to make his own book.
Ancient Arabs built ships in Oman, the reality is, fiction writes fiction, and there are people who dont know the difference between fantasy and reality.
The post DNA mormon dilemma: Mound builders V's Mayans
Unfortunately the LDS church has not made any announcement or received any revelation to confirm one or the other. Stick with the mound builders, it's a better fit.
Is there a mound builders movement to Join. I can't stand the Mayan theory BS.
That's because Joseph Smith never said that the Mayans were The Book of Mormon people. Rather the Hopewell or Moundbuilders who lived in America and were killed off by neighboring tribes according to their oral histories. Interestingly enough, they have ancient Israelite DNA. ... "science rules"
@biggdannyd Yes this seems to be the emerging post DNA mormon apology. Clearly the Mayans do not fit with the book of mormon story. Hopewell Mound builders, using timber, as described in the book of Mormon % better fits . Mound Builders theory does cause a rift. Mormons that firmly believe Mayans are Lamanites. That Nephi built ziggurats are hard pressed to find any similarities of Mayan & B of M parallels.
@kramd1 A ziggurat seems to me to be the perfect example of a great and spacious building. It bothers me so much how fixated so many Mormons are on the Mayan-Nephite theory. …how they don't listen to anything else and they're always right about everything. It's so painfully obvious that theory is bunk even though so many different church leaders have hinted otherwise. Opinions are not revelation.
@kramd1 I feel like the theory has been around so long that every member has been indoctrinated. The theory is stuck so deeply in the Mormon mindset they refuse to let it go and change their paradigm. New evidence comes in that means new conclusions can be made and sometimes that means dropping theories when they're disproven.
@biggdannyd Agreed, considering it is not doctrinal. ( there is no official place nominated by the LDS church of where the Book of mormon events took place ) Some mormons tho have made it a life time study to prove Lehite / Nephite building Ziggurat some how fits. To argue the toss about this anomaly will only earn you a anti mormon label and being blocked on all mormon youtude channels.
You had better read DEUTERONOMY chapter 13...But hey...if you want to burn in hell for all eternity far be it from me to stop you! continue to belive and follow mormonism...and reject the Holy Bible...as something not to be trusted as the "very" words of GOD...The Holy Bible warns of adding words to it or taking away from it...Soooo...what is the book of mormon...more words added to scripture that is "NOT" spoken by GOD...Don't be stupid!...then again maybe your destined to be stupid!.
@A1Goku We easily forget the Bible is a volume of book's, open up the Holy Bible and the first few pages will tell you the Books of the Bible. @A1Goku What you really should be saying is you cannot add or take away from this Book which Book is Revelations. Remember Man compiled the books all together which became the Bible[Volume of Books] But! then Man taught the world was flat, Man cannot be trust that is why we allways say ask God for yourself James 1 v 5. Noah, Who believed he was a Prophet
@MongoSoose There are also geographical maps for Bibles & are very often contained between the covers of Bibles. We know today that those places actually existed centuries ago. Those names are not the fabric of fiction; they are not fables.
(continuation) and he lived in constant tyranny and persecution. he was tarred and feathered, beaten, and his family and loved ones cruelly treated. he never lost the dignity of his office, and was a man of God after the highest order. A group called the carthage grey's vowed they would not much as eat until they had spilled his blood, and many of his friends turned out to be his judges' He was honest, and dealt with all prophets of all times.
several days before his death, tears in his eyes,the great Lt. general of the nauvoo legion, a prophet of the most high God, stood before his people for the last time and expressed his love for them. then he said, Greater love hath no man than this, than to lay down his life for his friends" i want you to know this our that joseph smith was truly a great man from the moment of his first vision in 1820 until his last breath in1844 he was sentenced or put on trial 48 times , at least that much
hello im an lds too(,") im from philippines i know this is the true church of God and God use joseph smith as an instrument to restore his fullnes of his gospel and the book of mormon is true this is an evidence that joseph smith is prophet of god and the true church must claim revelation from god AMOS:3;7 So i say im greatfull that we have a living prophet today which is Thomas S Monson' im greatfull of the works which prohet joseph smith deed. i love the gospel of jesus christ.
@helamandprophet -- You are following a false religion...a doctrine of mans and not God's...scripture warns of this in the holy bible...Matthew 7:15 - Matthew 24:11 - Matthew 24:24- Mark 13:32 - Luke 6:26 - 2nd Peter 2:1 - 1st John 4:1
Joseph F. Smith and every one of the mormon prophets are false prophets !
The Holy Bible is the only book that is needed to learn about God and Jesus and the Holy spirit.
Mormonism divides the triune God into seperate and distinct personages,
@A1Goku there is is over 20,000 white anglo saxton churchs alone. All teaching different doctrine one to another because someone is being prophetic to establish Gods Doctrine and each one of these churchs may be simular but different in doctrine to each other. I could create my own church and become the Prophet and be Prophetic about how it should be run. So they are all false prophets. The Lord said Seek and ye shall find. the Lord knew there would be thousands of Prophets. James 1 v 5
@A1Goku Yes, the Bible is that Standard by which the One Beautiful God means that all other writings are to be held to the light of & judged as to whether true or false. Consider the great number & variety of religions who do not esteem the Bible Scriptures as such & are in so very wide disagreement with each other as to especially Who God Is, what salvation is, & how a person can be saved.
@kramd1 If you're implying that Joseph Smith copied this name from the Bible, then we'd look to the version he was using, the Kings James Version. It reads, "And the sons of his wife Hodiah the sister of Naham, the father of Keilah the Garmite, and Eshtemoa the Maachathite." Different spelling and not a place. Absolutely no connection.
@TheEmilewis The connection is , It's found in the Bible. Different spelling doesn't seem to be the issue here as NHM does not spell Nahom . Joseph Smith plagiarised large slabs of the KJV , The Temple ordinances a re knock offs of Masonic ritiuals with a variation. Nahom is a name a word a made up from Naham that is found in the bible. who knows .
Naham Nahom missing vowels NaHoM could be NaHaM or NaNot Home or The lights are on But Na No oNe Home.
@kramd1 People Still trying to disprove. Oh Dear! Look, when Joeseph Smith spoke of Elephants, [and you can be sure he was mocked, and laughed at.] No one is laughing now as the earth reveals it's secret's as foretold it would. If proof jumped up and bit them they would cover it up as tho it where nowt. Nobody is laughing now about gold plates in a stone box when they have been, and are discovered even to this day in same like manner;Gold, Copper Brass and Lead. Just love one another enjoy life
@MongoSoose ALL WRONG , The book of mormon has the wrong animals , wrong place, wrong crops , wrong weapons , wrong metals , wrong language , wrong culture. There is nothing that even resembles Mayan architecture & culture in Smith "lost tribe of hebrews" story . The moroni challenge is dismissive of proof.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will restore a historic site in Pennsylvania that played a significant role in the growth of the Church from humble beginnings to a worldwide faith with 14 million members. .
When Brigham Young University announced that it was suspending sophomore forward Brandon Davies for the closing weeks of a dream season by its men's basketball team, many sports fans must have had thoughts of a flamboyant 51-year-old Irish Catholic who may be the greatest athlete in the annals of the school.
Davies was punished for violating the Utah university's strict honour code, apparently by having sex out of wedlock with his girlfriend. BYU, in theory, expects all students to live a "chaste and virtuous life" according to the rules of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Chief executive officers of 40 denominations will be in Salt Lake City and Park City for the semiannual meeting of the National Association of Evangelicals. In addition to that gathering, the group said in a statement that it plans to meet with a leader of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as well as Gov. Gary Herbert.
PROVO -- Although some of the materials and training for Mormon missionary work has changed over the past few decades, the main purpose remains the same, presenters said during the annual Church History Symposium at BYU on Saturday morning. Classes were held in the Brigham Young University Conference Center.
Elder Cook said after the meeting that he had been graciously received and that the discussions were substantive. He was accompanied by Elder Carl B. Pratt of the Asia Area Presidency and Hoang Van Tung, a Church leader in Hanoi. .
@LDS4Life71 Total conjecture supposition and a stretch, Where is Zarahemla ? Why is the book of mormon written in 17th century english contains the beatitudes of the new testament word for word. Any thinking person should not be duped by the suggestion to " believe these things" ask god, Come on, bereft of artefacts and evidence it is like pretending you are wealthy yet in reality your bankrupt. Remove the fantasy the pretence and you will begin to see it for what it is.
The First Congregational UCC will host a presentation by Elder Isaac Havice of the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) from 6 to 6:45 pm on Wednesday, following its Meals 'N' More program. Havice is a missionary
Every time the two teams play, I am subject to smug remarks made by BYU "fans" whose only connection to the school is their religion. But just because many Mormons cheer for BYU despite their lack of any apparent affiliation to the school, I feel it's in poor taste to discriminate against The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, otherwise known as the Mormon church, rather than just showing our disdain for their teams and their fans.
@omiolo Your good. WTF are you doing ? I see no cohesion, thread or relevance to any of your posts. I have heard that you seeking US residency via Mormons, Is this your self elected job.
Mormons claim earth shattering hard evidence and in the end retreat to " God told me " Posture. Providing nothing but possible parallels. Claiming christianity and denying all others correct authority. Plagiarising Masonic temple rituals. Openly claiming black are cursed. Having a church corporate run by professional executives not Prophet sears and revelators. You Omiolo; an example of irrelevance with all your nonsensical posts. why ?
@LDS4Life71 Honesty is a better way to live. I Don't claim something just because I want to believe it. That turns belief into belie. ( perhaps how the word belief is derived ) Believe the lie and claim evidence, as this any many mormon videos do, ( it's in the title description ) is deceitful, even if you think lying is for the better good It is not the truth.
@LDS4Life71"The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, is a total figment of those authors’ imagination. If the fifty documents included in the Eisenman-Wise volume are the most revolutionary among the unpublished material, I for one find them, as the by now familiar saying goes, about as explosive as a wet mop." Geza Vermes.
The Talmud tells many stories about the Messiah, some of which represent famous Talmudic rabbis as receiving personal visitations from Elijah the Prophet
@LDS4Life71This is not true. There are prophecies about the messiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls, but no specific mention of Jesus. The fact that it does not mention Jesus Christ indicates that it had not been tampered with. The new testament was penned decades after the ministry of Jesus. The Book of Mormon follows the new testament and specifically names the messiah as Jesus Christ. Considering Smith reference material it is little wonder.
Parents of these magnificent young men and women, we charge you with the sacred responsibility of teaching your children the doctrines of the holy priesthood. Your children must learn at an early age of the blessing of having the Lord’s eternal priesthood and what they must do individually to qualify for these blessings.
Give me a young man who is a seminary graduate and has a burning testimony of the Book of Mormon. Give me such a young man, and I will give you a young man who can perform miracles for the Lord in the mission field and throughout his life” (“To the ‘Youth of the Noble Birthright,’” Ensign, May 1986, 45).
@LDS4Life71 Although the Qumran community existed during the time of the ministry of Jesus, none of the Scrolls refer to Him, nor do they mention any of His follower's described in the New Testament.
Teaching, No Greater Call instructs us to encourage those we teach to set goals to help them live the principles they have learned (see page 159). With the family, consider identifying the blessings of missionary work as mentioned by President Eyring and, if prompted, invite the family to set goals for sharing the gospel.
I testify that the Holy Ghost will direct you to those who seek truth as you pray and work for that guidance. And I know from experience that your joy will be lasting with those who choose to take the gospel into their hearts and then endure in faith.
Nehem is a Hebrew name, a variation of the popular name Menachem.
To pin your archeological hopes on this is folly. If I write a book, and my characters stop in a place in fictional Mexico call Juan, and then later a village named Juan is discovered in the real Mexico, it doesn't mean that my book was scripture.
Keep grasping those straws, though. Much better than admitting the truth to yourself and turning your world upside down.
You think traveling in a small group through Arabia would be a bad idea...Don't knwo when the Arabic tribes got there but they weren't exactly the friendlist people.
Plus Nihm is tribal. why not name the place after him - the guy that donated it? it's common right? New York was New Amsterdam 1st. That changed because of who conquered it of course. The name IMO is not as questionable as you're making it out to be because of the surrounding area that also fits the BOM
@BaurakAle7 The problem with your argument is that it's located on the Frankincense trial, after the most "fertile parts" yet before the Arabian "green" that wasn't supposed to exist either. The carbon dating fits the time frame too. So what's in a name?
@BaurakAle7 So basically you ignored what they found after NHM because you're stuck on a name donating Arab at a pagan temple? LOL Nice. So basically they should have dragged Ismael's lifeless body through the rest of the Arabian peninsula. Oh and Santa Lucia Cotzumalguapa might be a good place to start.
@BaurakAle7 It's not just the name sir. It's where it's located. dead on according to the BOM. Read my comments below, it's amazing what else is still there.
It's desperation when people say "NHM" doesn't prove anything. The fact that it wasn't discovered until 1994, especially with the discovery of it being a burial ground which Joseph Smith had no way of knowing, shows the Book of Mormon is true. "No archeology" LOL People that say that need to start researching more.
Your struggles are defining character, discipline, and confidence in the promises of your Father in Heaven and the Savior as you consistently obey Their commandments. May the Holy Ghost prompt you to always make decisions that fortify your character and yield much joy and happiness. In the name of Jesus Christ,
No Iron building? A smelting furnace and iron and copper smelting slag were discovered at Khor Rori. That's only 2.5 miles from Oman - you know Oman right? The place that couldn't possibly exists in the Arabian Peninsula? - the place with the trees and water,etc. Also discovered at Khor Rori - Moorings and "Way-Ramps" for launching ships. Another cool thing - 1 Nephi 17:5 - found that too. You can use a stick to take the honey right from the cave walls. That's a lot of "lucky guesses" so far
Once again people are complaining about the letters and similar names in the Bible. This place was found by following the directions in the BOM itself. The found it by traveling Eastward, it's on the Frankincense trail, it's a burial ground - I mean honestly - what else could this place be but the Nahom in the BOM. i'm no linguistics expert but you can Google search and find that vowels were often left out in these languages. This is dead on evidence. maybe not proof but sufficient evidence.
Nahom is the Mesoamerican Yawn = lets give up on finding any proof or evidence on the american continent of the book of mormon nation of people with horses, breast plates and steel swords or finding Zarahemla. Now we have a stretch of wishful believers saying NHM = Nahom ? It does not and even if it did the next question is.
Q How could Joseph Smith know of Nahom .... . A. The Bible contains the names Naham, Nahum, and Nehum .There are no artefact of steel making or boat building.
Nahom is irrefutable proof that the book of Mormon is a made up piece of trash doesn't exist at all no proof of its existence has ever been made In fact every eqyptoligist in the world say that Joe smith was just making up his book of Abraham from a Egyptian funeral document this clown and fraud went so far as to draw in his own figures as well.whats irrefutable is that the Mormon faith is a fraud
@martlut maybe your grammar is what confuses me. You are saying that Nahom proves the Book of Mormon is not true because it doesn't exist in the real world... although this video clearly shows it does. And you're saying that the Book of Mormon is also proven false because egyptologists don't agree with Joseph Smith's translation of the Book of Abraham in the Pearl of Great Price, which doesn't really have anything to do with Nahom or the Book of Mormon?
@martlut Lol wow i can't believe that nine people gave you a thumbs up. You have no idea what you're talking about. Just so you know, Nahom is a real place. It is a prove fact obtained from objective observation. Now, you don't have to concede that Nahom proves that the Book of Mormon is true, but you must admit that Nahom does not prove it false.
@martlut weeew... too much hate in there bro... what have the mormons done to you... let them believe what they want... no need to demean anyone... peace... :)
@martlut Fully 100% agree, I tried reading the BOM, I tried praying about it, I still don't believe it, so I agree it's a fraud and my research in the Church just shows it has a tainted past and Joseph Smith is a false prophet.
@LDS4Life71 .The word psychosis is used to describe conditions that affect the mind, where there has been some loss of connection with reality. Your expressed desire not to be apart of the world is understandable considering your state of mind.
I fail however to understand why you would call me "down syndrome" not true.
I love the truth, call me a troll , ok . But out of respect for people effected by DS mental disorders and their families ..please.. desist.
@LDS4Life71 really, calling some one "retarded with down syndrome". ?
I suppose that's your best retort for having said your living a psychosis for your entire life. However I'm not sure that down syndrome is a good thing be calling people. Some that may have down syndrome kids or relatives might think of you as insensitive, callous and without any class.
@LDS4Life71 Here is an account for the rest of Joseph Smith s' plagiarism......................................." The first edition of Ethan Smith's View of the Hebrews was published in 1823, and a second expanded edition appeared in 1825.[4] Ethan Smith's theory, not uncommon among theologians and laymen of his day, was that Native Americans were descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, who had disappeared after being taken captive by the Assyrians in the 8th century BCE."
@LDS4Life71 King James Bible PLAGIARISM Book of Mormon (1830)
"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up" (Malachi 4:1) "For behold, saith the prophet, ... the day soon cometh that all the proud and they who do wickedly shall be as stubble; and the day cometh that they must be burned" (1 Nephi 22:15)
Just to name one ( really, how many examples do you need ? )
@LDS4Life71 I did , It was sighted in a cave in Hill Camorah by Joseph Smith and co, Where the golden plates where taken back to. Different to the stone box location. But on the same hill. The sword was reported to be mounted on the wall of a cave then later unsheathed laying on the golden tablets . This could be total crap some antimormon made up . But I have not heard of anything other than this for this rumoured existence of the Sword of Laban. : ) Is there more ?
A place south or south east of Jerusalem. and a place easterly that could be called Bountiful. That could be anywhere. There are no artefacts to suggest Book of Mormon Nephites where ever there. So all there is an inscription on rock with NHM ? that's it.
The book of mormon does not provide any definitive geographical location for the americas ie Where is Zarahemla ? let alone a map or even a route across the ocean. Bof M geography is fanatsy.
The Book of Mormon describes in detail a system of weights and measures used by the Nephite society.[100] However, the overall use of metal in ancient America seems to have been extremely limited. A more common exchange medium in Mesoamerica were cacao beans
Cimiters are mentioned about ten times in the Book of Mormon.[97] The word "cimiter" (Scimitar) is considered an anachronism since the word was never used by the Hebrews (from which the Book of Mormon peoples came) or any other civilization prior to 450 AD.[98]
Steel and iron are mentioned several times in the Book of Mormon.[87] No evidence has been found in North, Central, or South America of iron being hardened anciently to make “steel”.
Barley" is mentioned three times in the Book of Mormon narrative dating to the 1st and 2nd century BC.[71] "Wheat" is mentioned once in the Book of Mormon narrative (outside of quotes from the Bible) dating to the same time period.[72] The introduction of domesticated modern barley and wheat to the New World was made by Europeans after 1492, many centuries after the time in which the Book of Mormon is set.
@LDS4Life71 The Book of Mormon mirrors two Biblical passages involving swine,[64] and mentions them once in the narrative itself.[65] While this last citation suggests that the swine were domesticated, there have not been any remains, references, artwork, tools, or any other evidence suggesting that swine were ever present in the pre-entrada New World
"Sheep" are mentioned in the Book of Mormon as being raised in the Americas by the Jaredites between 2500 BC and 600 BC. Another verse mentions “lamb-skin” (~ AD 21)[58] Domestic sheep were first introduced to the Americas during the second voyage of Columbus
There are six references to cattle made in the Book of Mormon, including verbiage suggesting they were domesticated.[52] There is no evidence that Old World cattle (members of the genus Bos) inhabited the New World prior to European contact in the 16th century AD.
Horses are mentioned eleven times in the Book of Mormon in the context of its New World setting.[37] There is no evidence that horses existed on the American continent during the 2500-3000 year history of the Book of Mormon (2500 BC - 400 AD) The only evidence of horses on the American continent dates to pre-historic times
The National Geographic Society, in a 1998 letter to the Institute for Religious Research, stated "Archaeologists and other scholars have long probed the hemisphere's past and the society does not know of anything found so far that has substantiated the Book of Mormon."[35]
The Smithsonian Institution issued an official statement in 1996 and again in 1998 that it considered the Book of Mormon to be "a religious document and not a scientific guide," and that it "has found no archaeological evidence to support [the book's] claims.
Book of Mormon has been used as a geographic guide in Arabia. It is incumbent upon you to support this affirmative claim. Mormons made the claim. Now prove it. If all you can offer are suppositions, excuses, and disappearing rivers, then you need to have sufficient intellectual honesty to stop claiming that the Book of Mormon can be used as a geographical guide.
@kramd1 Don't blame me. Blame the archeologist and the people of that area. They discovered it. Besides isn't it a little too coincidental that it's also an ancient burying place of people living during the time of Lehi? It's time to take off the blinders dude.
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What good did it do for Christ to visit America? According to the Book of Mormon., in less than five centuries they had buried and forgotten their scripture and all "Christians" were destroyed! It was through European missionaries with a Bible, not the Book of Mormon., that Native Americans learned about Christ!
123adrspain 2 days ago
Hahaha this is rediculous!!! The book of mormon is 100% inaccurate it sais that people weilded metals in ancient america.ot sais that there were donkeys and horses before europeans and is talks about cities that there are no trace of! Atleast the bible is acurate in its locations and has a map have you ever seen a map of the book of mormon? No because the maps made match no place in the americas what so ever!! Hahahahaha
bat830 3 days ago
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metsa01 1 day ago
Did you know the word "Liahona" has meaning in both Hebrew and Egyptian and translates something along the lines of "pathway of the Son". Also did you know Joseph Smith did not know or have any way of knowing Hebrew or Egyptian. Crazy huh....
SeriousToughGuy 1 month ago
The Book of Mormon is true. I have come to know through pondering and praying. You can come to know of its divinity by reading the book with an open heart and mind.
TheHutchFactor 1 month ago
hmm...
mormoncoffee 1 month ago
there is no any single artifact related to BoM. Nothing!!! ask general authority!!!! not a single official evidence was found for a hundred years!!!!!
zv77rus 1 month ago
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@leeuniverse Can you write an essay? "How to infer that fiction is history."
1) Use bogus assertions and point to simularities.
2) Dont read the 80+ affadavits from Smith's neighbors, cause all of them were liars
3) ignore DNA evidence which took samples from 12000 American natives having Asian genetic markers.
4) Forget about the stone box, cause its not anywhere to be found.
5) tell people why you dont need to have the plates around while placing your face in a hat while dictating.
Rypaul5217 2 months ago
Excellent video. I enjoyed it very much...thanks for sharing!
BUZZ4134 3 months ago
I've been watching a ton of videos about the physical evidence linking to the Book of Mormon. I've been a member for almost 21 years. I know the book of Mormon is true. If it was a sham, how do it's critics explain all of the evidence such as in this video? How did Joseph Smith know all of this then when science hadn't even caught up to it yet? Because the book of Mormon is true, and was translated by the power of God.
mattdawg83686 4 months ago 2
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@mattdawg83686 Nahom is found in the Bible 1 Chronicles 4:19
kramd1 3 months ago
@mattdawg83686 Anyone who believes this pseudo-science is incredibly gullible.
jewz456 2 months ago
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"There arrived in this land a man whom they called Quetzacoatl... His countenance was white and he wore a beard. His manner of dress consisted of a long white robe... He was considered just, saintly, and good, teaching them by deeds and words the road to virtue... He gave them laws and sane doctrine... He said that in the year that would be called Ce Acatl, He would return and then His doctrine would be accepted, and his children Lords and heirs of the earth."
-Ixtlilxochitl, 1600AD
LDS4Life71 1 month ago
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How come the second coming did not happen when Joseph Smith gave us the date? - "It is the will of the Lord that those who went to Zion, with a determination to lay down their lives, if necessary, should be ordained to the ministry, and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, or the coming of the Lord, which was night -- even fifty-six years, should wind up the scene", Joseph Smith Jr., 1891, (The History of the Church, vol II, page 182)
josephsmithwashere 4 months ago
I KNOW THAT BOOK OF MORMON ITS TRUE BOOK FROM THE HEAVEN FROM THE ETERNAL FATHER .
soniabrentnatasha 4 months ago
@soniabrentnatasha Your being duped. The book of mormon fails to describe anything in the real world. people, languages,geography or animals are a total miss fit.
It's a tale of fiction. Read it and asks yourself, How is this real history?
kramd1 3 months ago
Moroni, Grande Comore / Ngazidja, Comoros islands
google maps COMOROS Moroni
off the east coast of Africa.
kramd1 5 months ago
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Amazing correlation.
nathanevans5 5 months ago
Nahum is also a book in the Bible...Joe must have been pick up on the name of the prophet and crossed in over into his storybook. Notwithstanding how the memory of a man works in such matters...is common place among novel writers to shank out names from where they have read or know, no biggy.
Rypaul5217 6 months ago
@Rypaul5217 Nahum is definitely a book (named after a man) in the Bible. Of course, that isn't what this clip is about. This is about a PLACE called "Nahom," not a MAN named "Nahum." I'm not trying to argue this fact in favor of the Book of Mormon, I'm just pointing out a clear distinction.
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1 chronicles 4: 19 .
And the sons of his wife Hodiah the sister of Naham, the father of Keilah the Garmite, and Eshtemoa the Maachathite.... KJV
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@1kdtaylor Nahom is found in the Bible 1 Chronicles 4:19
answers the question where did Joseph Smith get the name.
place name persons name it' s a name.
and if your arguing a different spelling . NHM does not spell Nahom either.
kramd1 5 months ago
@Rypaul5217 Highly recommend you read the book and also the DVD that goes with it "Lehi in the Wilderness - 81 Evidences...." And then come back and say "no biggy".
leeuniverse 3 months ago
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@leeuniverse Thats correct, no biggy, just muffing cotton tale foxes sewing with invisible thread. Hyrum and Joseph...NHM is not complete, but note, Nahum is also a book in the Bible, Joe Smith copied 216 KJV Bible verses, including the writings of St Paul; this was his trick, to copy and lift what ever he wanted to to make his own book.
Ancient Arabs built ships in Oman, the reality is, fiction writes fiction, and there are people who dont know the difference between fantasy and reality.
Rypaul5217 2 months ago
The post DNA mormon dilemma: Mound builders V's Mayans
Unfortunately the LDS church has not made any announcement or received any revelation to confirm one or the other. Stick with the mound builders, it's a better fit.
Is there a mound builders movement to Join. I can't stand the Mayan theory BS.
kramd1 8 months ago
That's because Joseph Smith never said that the Mayans were The Book of Mormon people. Rather the Hopewell or Moundbuilders who lived in America and were killed off by neighboring tribes according to their oral histories. Interestingly enough, they have ancient Israelite DNA. ... "science rules"
biggdannyd 8 months ago
@biggdannyd Yes this seems to be the emerging post DNA mormon apology. Clearly the Mayans do not fit with the book of mormon story. Hopewell Mound builders, using timber, as described in the book of Mormon % better fits . Mound Builders theory does cause a rift. Mormons that firmly believe Mayans are Lamanites. That Nephi built ziggurats are hard pressed to find any similarities of Mayan & B of M parallels.
kramd1 8 months ago
@kramd1 A ziggurat seems to me to be the perfect example of a great and spacious building. It bothers me so much how fixated so many Mormons are on the Mayan-Nephite theory. …how they don't listen to anything else and they're always right about everything. It's so painfully obvious that theory is bunk even though so many different church leaders have hinted otherwise. Opinions are not revelation.
biggdannyd 8 months ago
@kramd1 I feel like the theory has been around so long that every member has been indoctrinated. The theory is stuck so deeply in the Mormon mindset they refuse to let it go and change their paradigm. New evidence comes in that means new conclusions can be made and sometimes that means dropping theories when they're disproven.
biggdannyd 8 months ago
@biggdannyd Agreed, considering it is not doctrinal. ( there is no official place nominated by the LDS church of where the Book of mormon events took place ) Some mormons tho have made it a life time study to prove Lehite / Nephite building Ziggurat some how fits. To argue the toss about this anomaly will only earn you a anti mormon label and being blocked on all mormon youtude channels.
kramd1 8 months ago
You had better read DEUTERONOMY chapter 13...But hey...if you want to burn in hell for all eternity far be it from me to stop you! continue to belive and follow mormonism...and reject the Holy Bible...as something not to be trusted as the "very" words of GOD...The Holy Bible warns of adding words to it or taking away from it...Soooo...what is the book of mormon...more words added to scripture that is "NOT" spoken by GOD...Don't be stupid!...then again maybe your destined to be stupid!.
A1Goku 9 months ago
@A1Goku We easily forget the Bible is a volume of book's, open up the Holy Bible and the first few pages will tell you the Books of the Bible. @A1Goku What you really should be saying is you cannot add or take away from this Book which Book is Revelations. Remember Man compiled the books all together which became the Bible[Volume of Books] But! then Man taught the world was flat, Man cannot be trust that is why we allways say ask God for yourself James 1 v 5. Noah, Who believed he was a Prophet
MongoSoose 8 months ago
@MongoSoose There are also geographical maps for Bibles & are very often contained between the covers of Bibles. We know today that those places actually existed centuries ago. Those names are not the fabric of fiction; they are not fables.
Shulamitefire 8 months ago
(continuation) and he lived in constant tyranny and persecution. he was tarred and feathered, beaten, and his family and loved ones cruelly treated. he never lost the dignity of his office, and was a man of God after the highest order. A group called the carthage grey's vowed they would not much as eat until they had spilled his blood, and many of his friends turned out to be his judges' He was honest, and dealt with all prophets of all times.
helamandprophet 9 months ago
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kramd1 9 months ago
several days before his death, tears in his eyes,the great Lt. general of the nauvoo legion, a prophet of the most high God, stood before his people for the last time and expressed his love for them. then he said, Greater love hath no man than this, than to lay down his life for his friends" i want you to know this our that joseph smith was truly a great man from the moment of his first vision in 1820 until his last breath in1844 he was sentenced or put on trial 48 times , at least that much
helamandprophet 9 months ago
hello im an lds too(,") im from philippines i know this is the true church of God and God use joseph smith as an instrument to restore his fullnes of his gospel and the book of mormon is true this is an evidence that joseph smith is prophet of god and the true church must claim revelation from god AMOS:3;7 So i say im greatfull that we have a living prophet today which is Thomas S Monson' im greatfull of the works which prohet joseph smith deed. i love the gospel of jesus christ.
helamandprophet 9 months ago
@helamandprophet -- You are following a false religion...a doctrine of mans and not God's...scripture warns of this in the holy bible...Matthew 7:15 - Matthew 24:11 - Matthew 24:24- Mark 13:32 - Luke 6:26 - 2nd Peter 2:1 - 1st John 4:1
Joseph F. Smith and every one of the mormon prophets are false prophets !
The Holy Bible is the only book that is needed to learn about God and Jesus and the Holy spirit.
Mormonism divides the triune God into seperate and distinct personages,
A1Goku 8 months ago
@A1Goku there is is over 20,000 white anglo saxton churchs alone. All teaching different doctrine one to another because someone is being prophetic to establish Gods Doctrine and each one of these churchs may be simular but different in doctrine to each other. I could create my own church and become the Prophet and be Prophetic about how it should be run. So they are all false prophets. The Lord said Seek and ye shall find. the Lord knew there would be thousands of Prophets. James 1 v 5
MongoSoose 8 months ago
@MongoSoose Almost every Christian church is in agreement regarding the ontology of God & the soteriology of man.
Shulamitefire 8 months ago
@A1Goku Yes, the Bible is that Standard by which the One Beautiful God means that all other writings are to be held to the light of & judged as to whether true or false. Consider the great number & variety of religions who do not esteem the Bible Scriptures as such & are in so very wide disagreement with each other as to especially Who God Is, what salvation is, & how a person can be saved.
Shulamitefire 8 months ago
"one has to ask the question. How could Joseph Smith have possibly known Nahom ? "
A. Nahom is found in the Bible 1 Chronicles 4:19
kramd1 10 months ago
@kramd1 Different spelling and it refers to a woman's name, not a location.
TheEmilewis 9 months ago
@TheEmilewis Nahom is found in the Bible 1 Chronicles 4:19
kramd1 9 months ago
@kramd1 If you're implying that Joseph Smith copied this name from the Bible, then we'd look to the version he was using, the Kings James Version. It reads, "And the sons of his wife Hodiah the sister of Naham, the father of Keilah the Garmite, and Eshtemoa the Maachathite." Different spelling and not a place. Absolutely no connection.
TheEmilewis 9 months ago
@TheEmilewis NHM is not Nahom different spelling.
kramd1 9 months ago
@kramd1 they didnt use vowels idiot
biggdannyd 8 months ago
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kramd1 8 months ago
@TheEmilewis The connection is , It's found in the Bible. Different spelling doesn't seem to be the issue here as NHM does not spell Nahom . Joseph Smith plagiarised large slabs of the KJV , The Temple ordinances a re knock offs of Masonic ritiuals with a variation. Nahom is a name a word a made up from Naham that is found in the bible. who knows .
Naham Nahom missing vowels NaHoM could be NaHaM or NaNot Home or The lights are on But Na No oNe Home.
kramd1 8 months ago
@kramd1 People Still trying to disprove. Oh Dear! Look, when Joeseph Smith spoke of Elephants, [and you can be sure he was mocked, and laughed at.] No one is laughing now as the earth reveals it's secret's as foretold it would. If proof jumped up and bit them they would cover it up as tho it where nowt. Nobody is laughing now about gold plates in a stone box when they have been, and are discovered even to this day in same like manner;Gold, Copper Brass and Lead. Just love one another enjoy life
MongoSoose 8 months ago
@MongoSoose ALL WRONG , The book of mormon has the wrong animals , wrong place, wrong crops , wrong weapons , wrong metals , wrong language , wrong culture. There is nothing that even resembles Mayan architecture & culture in Smith "lost tribe of hebrews" story . The moroni challenge is dismissive of proof.
kramd1 8 months ago
How do magnets work?
LtColonelMason 10 months ago
Mormon apostle urges graduates to remain faithful, honest
omiolo 10 months ago
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will restore a historic site in Pennsylvania that played a significant role in the growth of the Church from humble beginnings to a worldwide faith with 14 million members. .
omiolo 10 months ago
Thomas McCann converted to Mormonism and traveled to Utah with Brigham Young
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo hahahaha omoilo you're a joke! you BLOCKED me from commenting in your videos!
MORMONS = MASTERS OF EXCUSES!!
MALDITTOROKKERO 10 months ago
@MALDITTOROKKERO "you BLOCKED me from commenting in your videos!"
and WHICH videos where those? My imaginary VIDEOS?
omiolo 10 months ago
When Brigham Young University announced that it was suspending sophomore forward Brandon Davies for the closing weeks of a dream season by its men's basketball team, many sports fans must have had thoughts of a flamboyant 51-year-old Irish Catholic who may be the greatest athlete in the annals of the school.
omiolo 11 months ago
Davies was punished for violating the Utah university's strict honour code, apparently by having sex out of wedlock with his girlfriend. BYU, in theory, expects all students to live a "chaste and virtuous life" according to the rules of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
omiolo 11 months ago
Chief executive officers of 40 denominations will be in Salt Lake City and Park City for the semiannual meeting of the National Association of Evangelicals. In addition to that gathering, the group said in a statement that it plans to meet with a leader of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as well as Gov. Gary Herbert.
omiolo 1 year ago
PROVO -- Although some of the materials and training for Mormon missionary work has changed over the past few decades, the main purpose remains the same, presenters said during the annual Church History Symposium at BYU on Saturday morning. Classes were held in the Brigham Young University Conference Center.
omiolo 1 year ago
Mormon missionary approaches may change, but still based on personal testimony
omiolo 1 year ago
Elder Cook said after the meeting that he had been graciously received and that the discussions were substantive. He was accompanied by Elder Carl B. Pratt of the Asia Area Presidency and Hoang Van Tung, a Church leader in Hanoi. .
omiolo 1 year ago
I'm technically LDS too, but lately I've pretty much stopped believing in any religion because of how little sense God makes at all.
KenM66 1 year ago 2
@KenM66 Hmm, I have always thought God makes more sense in the LDS faith than in any other Church I have ever been to...
griffin67 11 months ago
Your supporting a claim of evidence. ?
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 Sorry you've lost me , I have no idea what your talking about now. certainly NOT archeological evidence.
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 Total conjecture supposition and a stretch, Where is Zarahemla ? Why is the book of mormon written in 17th century english contains the beatitudes of the new testament word for word. Any thinking person should not be duped by the suggestion to " believe these things" ask god, Come on, bereft of artefacts and evidence it is like pretending you are wealthy yet in reality your bankrupt. Remove the fantasy the pretence and you will begin to see it for what it is.
kramd1 1 year ago
The First Congregational UCC will host a presentation by Elder Isaac Havice of the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) from 6 to 6:45 pm on Wednesday, following its Meals 'N' More program. Havice is a missionary
omiolo 1 year ago
Every time the two teams play, I am subject to smug remarks made by BYU "fans" whose only connection to the school is their religion. But just because many Mormons cheer for BYU despite their lack of any apparent affiliation to the school, I feel it's in poor taste to discriminate against The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, otherwise known as the Mormon church, rather than just showing our disdain for their teams and their fans.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo keep up the nonsensical mormon diatribe. Your good.
kramd1 1 year ago
@kramd1 Keep up your IGNORANCE. It is all you have.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo Your good. WTF are you doing ? I see no cohesion, thread or relevance to any of your posts. I have heard that you seeking US residency via Mormons, Is this your self elected job.
kramd1 1 year ago
@kramd1 why don't you give me a list of the ANTImormon rules for posting comments. Then make sure EVERYONE of you ANTImormons follow it......
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo 1. Omit the word "evidence"
Mormons claim earth shattering hard evidence and in the end retreat to " God told me " Posture. Providing nothing but possible parallels. Claiming christianity and denying all others correct authority. Plagiarising Masonic temple rituals. Openly claiming black are cursed. Having a church corporate run by professional executives not Prophet sears and revelators. You Omiolo; an example of irrelevance with all your nonsensical posts. why ?
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 Honesty is a better way to live. I Don't claim something just because I want to believe it. That turns belief into belie. ( perhaps how the word belief is derived ) Believe the lie and claim evidence, as this any many mormon videos do, ( it's in the title description ) is deceitful, even if you think lying is for the better good It is not the truth.
kramd1 1 year ago
RE: The Dead Sea Scrolls or Qumran; There are prophecies about the messiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls, but no specific mention of Jesus .
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71"The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, is a total figment of those authors’ imagination. If the fifty documents included in the Eisenman-Wise volume are the most revolutionary among the unpublished material, I for one find them, as the by now familiar saying goes, about as explosive as a wet mop." Geza Vermes.
kramd1 1 year ago
The Talmud tells many stories about the Messiah, some of which represent famous Talmudic rabbis as receiving personal visitations from Elijah the Prophet
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71This is not true. There are prophecies about the messiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls, but no specific mention of Jesus. The fact that it does not mention Jesus Christ indicates that it had not been tampered with. The new testament was penned decades after the ministry of Jesus. The Book of Mormon follows the new testament and specifically names the messiah as Jesus Christ. Considering Smith reference material it is little wonder.
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 I don't have a pastor, I'm Agnostic you twit. Research I do a lot of.
Could you provide the reference of Jesus in the Qumran ?
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 nice attempt at a side step.. Where is Jesus mentioned , as you say, in the dead sea scrolls. ?
I'm all ears
kramd1 1 year ago
Parents of these magnificent young men and women, we charge you with the sacred responsibility of teaching your children the doctrines of the holy priesthood. Your children must learn at an early age of the blessing of having the Lord’s eternal priesthood and what they must do individually to qualify for these blessings.
omiolo 1 year ago
Give me a young man who is a seminary graduate and has a burning testimony of the Book of Mormon. Give me such a young man, and I will give you a young man who can perform miracles for the Lord in the mission field and throughout his life” (“To the ‘Youth of the Noble Birthright,’” Ensign, May 1986, 45).
omiolo 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 FAIL
kramd1 1 year ago
Respond to this video... your born again statement is off topic.
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 Although the Qumran community existed during the time of the ministry of Jesus, none of the Scrolls refer to Him, nor do they mention any of His follower's described in the New Testament.
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71The dead sea scrolls do not mention Jesus.
kramd1 1 year ago
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To answer your question "How did Joseph Smith know about Nahom"
The Bible contains the names Naham, Nahum, and Nehum
kramd1 1 year ago
Teaching, No Greater Call instructs us to encourage those we teach to set goals to help them live the principles they have learned (see page 159). With the family, consider identifying the blessings of missionary work as mentioned by President Eyring and, if prompted, invite the family to set goals for sharing the gospel.
omiolo 1 year ago
I testify that the Holy Ghost will direct you to those who seek truth as you pray and work for that guidance. And I know from experience that your joy will be lasting with those who choose to take the gospel into their hearts and then endure in faith.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo Not evidence, your testiphony is more like a parroted cult chant.
kramd1 1 year ago
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Nehem is a Hebrew name, a variation of the popular name Menachem.
To pin your archeological hopes on this is folly. If I write a book, and my characters stop in a place in fictional Mexico call Juan, and then later a village named Juan is discovered in the real Mexico, it doesn't mean that my book was scripture.
Keep grasping those straws, though. Much better than admitting the truth to yourself and turning your world upside down.
Amused67 1 year ago 6
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Amused67 1 year ago
"Dumb, dumb, dumb,dumb,dumb"
broxxx1138 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 The dead sea scrolls do not mention Jesus.
kramd1 1 year ago
You think traveling in a small group through Arabia would be a bad idea...Don't knwo when the Arabic tribes got there but they weren't exactly the friendlist people.
ih8makinusernames 1 year ago
Where is Zarahemla ?
kramd1 1 year ago
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The Bible contains the names Naham, Nahum, and Nehum
A plausible answer to where did the name "Nahom" come from.
kramd1 1 year ago
Plus Nihm is tribal. why not name the place after him - the guy that donated it? it's common right? New York was New Amsterdam 1st. That changed because of who conquered it of course. The name IMO is not as questionable as you're making it out to be because of the surrounding area that also fits the BOM
Dalessiokiller 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 The problem with your argument is that it's located on the Frankincense trial, after the most "fertile parts" yet before the Arabian "green" that wasn't supposed to exist either. The carbon dating fits the time frame too. So what's in a name?
Dalessiokiller 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 So basically you ignored what they found after NHM because you're stuck on a name donating Arab at a pagan temple? LOL Nice. So basically they should have dragged Ismael's lifeless body through the rest of the Arabian peninsula. Oh and Santa Lucia Cotzumalguapa might be a good place to start.
Dalessiokiller 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 It's not just the name sir. It's where it's located. dead on according to the BOM. Read my comments below, it's amazing what else is still there.
Dalessiokiller 1 year ago
@BaurakAle7 Just get over it already. The finding of Nahom is proof nobody can have an argument for.
majinish 1 year ago
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@majinish NHM is Not exactly Nahom . Wishful thinking more like it. Where is Zarahemla ? The Bible contains the names Naham, Nahum, and Nehum
kramd1 1 year ago
It's desperation when people say "NHM" doesn't prove anything. The fact that it wasn't discovered until 1994, especially with the discovery of it being a burial ground which Joseph Smith had no way of knowing, shows the Book of Mormon is true. "No archeology" LOL People that say that need to start researching more.
majinish 1 year ago
@majinish No evidence of steel making, ship building, burial ground bones, Liahona , broken steel bow of Nephi. Nil, nothing, naught NNN
kramd1 1 year ago
Your struggles are defining character, discipline, and confidence in the promises of your Father in Heaven and the Savior as you consistently obey Their commandments. May the Holy Ghost prompt you to always make decisions that fortify your character and yield much joy and happiness. In the name of Jesus Christ,
omiolo 1 year ago
No Iron building? A smelting furnace and iron and copper smelting slag were discovered at Khor Rori. That's only 2.5 miles from Oman - you know Oman right? The place that couldn't possibly exists in the Arabian Peninsula? - the place with the trees and water,etc. Also discovered at Khor Rori - Moorings and "Way-Ramps" for launching ships. Another cool thing - 1 Nephi 17:5 - found that too. You can use a stick to take the honey right from the cave walls. That's a lot of "lucky guesses" so far
Dalessiokiller 1 year ago 2
@Dalessiokiller ~That's a lot of "lucky guesses" so far~
10s of thousands.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo zero artefacts
kramd1 1 year ago
@kramd1 no tree of life artifacts huh? LOL
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo Oh hello Omiolo. Are you taking a break from your nonsensical off topic diatribe ?
Are you suggesting the Izapa Stela 5 stone carving found in mesoamerica is a book of mormon artefact ?
Do you have anything else among your 10's of thousands of artefacts evidence vault ?
kramd1 1 year ago
Theres always going to be closed minded people. They will know the truth one day.
MrDarknesssurroundin 1 year ago
Once again people are complaining about the letters and similar names in the Bible. This place was found by following the directions in the BOM itself. The found it by traveling Eastward, it's on the Frankincense trail, it's a burial ground - I mean honestly - what else could this place be but the Nahom in the BOM. i'm no linguistics expert but you can Google search and find that vowels were often left out in these languages. This is dead on evidence. maybe not proof but sufficient evidence.
Dalessiokiller 1 year ago
Nahom is the Mesoamerican Yawn = lets give up on finding any proof or evidence on the american continent of the book of mormon nation of people with horses, breast plates and steel swords or finding Zarahemla. Now we have a stretch of wishful believers saying NHM = Nahom ? It does not and even if it did the next question is.
Q How could Joseph Smith know of Nahom .... . A. The Bible contains the names Naham, Nahum, and Nehum .There are no artefact of steel making or boat building.
kramd1 1 year ago
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THE BOM IS A LIE AND MORMONS WORSHIP SATAN..............
eitoobmiz 1 year ago
seems to me your the fairy tale believer
martlut 1 year ago
Nahom is irrefutable proof that the book of Mormon is a made up piece of trash doesn't exist at all no proof of its existence has ever been made In fact every eqyptoligist in the world say that Joe smith was just making up his book of Abraham from a Egyptian funeral document this clown and fraud went so far as to draw in his own figures as well.whats irrefutable is that the Mormon faith is a fraud
martlut 1 year ago 2
@martlut lol, how exactly does Nahom prove the Book of Mormon to be false? I would love to hear this :)
TheOptimusprime9 1 year ago
@TheOptimusprime9 guess you cant read
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut maybe your grammar is what confuses me. You are saying that Nahom proves the Book of Mormon is not true because it doesn't exist in the real world... although this video clearly shows it does. And you're saying that the Book of Mormon is also proven false because egyptologists don't agree with Joseph Smith's translation of the Book of Abraham in the Pearl of Great Price, which doesn't really have anything to do with Nahom or the Book of Mormon?
TheOptimusprime9 1 year ago
@TheOptimusprime9 your video proves nothing
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut Two things:
1.) This isn't my vid.
2.) Nahom is a Book of Mormon bull's eye that Joseph Smith had no way of knowing about.
So what I'm confused about is how does the real life location of Nahom disprove the Book of Mormon? Please explain this.
TheOptimusprime9 1 year ago
@TheOptimusprime9 And drunks prove their are pink elephants
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut Lol wow i can't believe that nine people gave you a thumbs up. You have no idea what you're talking about. Just so you know, Nahom is a real place. It is a prove fact obtained from objective observation. Now, you don't have to concede that Nahom proves that the Book of Mormon is true, but you must admit that Nahom does not prove it false.
By the way, your mom is a pink elephant. lol
TheOptimusprime9 1 year ago
@martlut weeew... too much hate in there bro... what have the mormons done to you... let them believe what they want... no need to demean anyone... peace... :)
RAMBOTHETRUTH 1 year ago
@martlut Fully 100% agree, I tried reading the BOM, I tried praying about it, I still don't believe it, so I agree it's a fraud and my research in the Church just shows it has a tainted past and Joseph Smith is a false prophet.
Xmetalearth 1 year ago
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@martlut The Bible contains the names Naham, Nahum, and Nehum
A plausible answer to where did Joseph Smith get the name "Nahom" from.
I think he had a KJV where many plagiarism where obtained.
kramd1 1 year ago
@martlut
You are getting two different books confused as one, The book of Mormon does not have a book of Abraham or drawn figures in it.
It is the Pearl of Great Price that has a book of Abraham in it that was translated from Egyptian scrolls and has drawn figures within it.
NielsenWill 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 .The word psychosis is used to describe conditions that affect the mind, where there has been some loss of connection with reality. Your expressed desire not to be apart of the world is understandable considering your state of mind.
I fail however to understand why you would call me "down syndrome" not true.
I love the truth, call me a troll , ok . But out of respect for people effected by DS mental disorders and their families ..please.. desist.
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 really, calling some one "retarded with down syndrome". ?
I suppose that's your best retort for having said your living a psychosis for your entire life. However I'm not sure that down syndrome is a good thing be calling people. Some that may have down syndrome kids or relatives might think of you as insensitive, callous and without any class.
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 i think you forgot to delete this retard comment.
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 you can't be serious, did you say " Joseph Smith ...probably didn't have a bible"
Please .are we in la la land ? lol . tell me you just had a brain fart, is this an effect of testimony swearing dumbness ?
In any case your off topic crap has a familiar prelude to a testiphony confession.
Spare me , Your psychosis has already been made evident.
kramd1 1 year ago
Respond to this video... Please note all Joseph's Day , A fact you choose to ignore.
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 Here is an account for the rest of Joseph Smith s' plagiarism......................................." The first edition of Ethan Smith's View of the Hebrews was published in 1823, and a second expanded edition appeared in 1825.[4] Ethan Smith's theory, not uncommon among theologians and laymen of his day, was that Native Americans were descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, who had disappeared after being taken captive by the Assyrians in the 8th century BCE."
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 King James Bible PLAGIARISM Book of Mormon (1830)
"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up" (Malachi 4:1) "For behold, saith the prophet, ... the day soon cometh that all the proud and they who do wickedly shall be as stubble; and the day cometh that they must be burned" (1 Nephi 22:15)
Just to name one ( really, how many examples do you need ? )
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71the Bible contains the names Naham, Nahum, and Nehum
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 I did , It was sighted in a cave in Hill Camorah by Joseph Smith and co, Where the golden plates where taken back to. Different to the stone box location. But on the same hill. The sword was reported to be mounted on the wall of a cave then later unsheathed laying on the golden tablets . This could be total crap some antimormon made up . But I have not heard of anything other than this for this rumoured existence of the Sword of Laban. : ) Is there more ?
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 Off topic comment, Thanks I 'll take that you don't have a clue.
Like I said . The Book of Mormon does not provide any definitive geographical locations. There are no maps, there are no artefacts. Evidence Not
Change the title. " Nahom sounds like NHM " and is on the Arabian peninsular. At least some mormons with get out a map and learn where Arabia is.
kramd1 1 year ago 2
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@LDS4Life71 "How could Joseph Smith have described the arabian peninsula like he lived there?"
maybe it was tthe same way he sealed himself to multiple wives behind Emma's back?
SvenTveskegg 1 year ago
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kramd1 1 year ago
A place south or south east of Jerusalem. and a place easterly that could be called Bountiful. That could be anywhere. There are no artefacts to suggest Book of Mormon Nephites where ever there. So all there is an inscription on rock with NHM ? that's it.
The book of mormon does not provide any definitive geographical location for the americas ie Where is Zarahemla ? let alone a map or even a route across the ocean. Bof M geography is fanatsy.
kramd1 1 year ago 2
The Book of Mormon describes in detail a system of weights and measures used by the Nephite society.[100] However, the overall use of metal in ancient America seems to have been extremely limited. A more common exchange medium in Mesoamerica were cacao beans
martlut 1 year ago
Cimiters are mentioned about ten times in the Book of Mormon.[97] The word "cimiter" (Scimitar) is considered an anachronism since the word was never used by the Hebrews (from which the Book of Mormon peoples came) or any other civilization prior to 450 AD.[98]
martlut 1 year ago
Steel and iron are mentioned several times in the Book of Mormon.[87] No evidence has been found in North, Central, or South America of iron being hardened anciently to make “steel”.
martlut 1 year ago
Barley" is mentioned three times in the Book of Mormon narrative dating to the 1st and 2nd century BC.[71] "Wheat" is mentioned once in the Book of Mormon narrative (outside of quotes from the Bible) dating to the same time period.[72] The introduction of domesticated modern barley and wheat to the New World was made by Europeans after 1492, many centuries after the time in which the Book of Mormon is set.
martlut 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 The Book of Mormon mirrors two Biblical passages involving swine,[64] and mentions them once in the narrative itself.[65] While this last citation suggests that the swine were domesticated, there have not been any remains, references, artwork, tools, or any other evidence suggesting that swine were ever present in the pre-entrada New World
martlut 1 year ago
"Sheep" are mentioned in the Book of Mormon as being raised in the Americas by the Jaredites between 2500 BC and 600 BC. Another verse mentions “lamb-skin” (~ AD 21)[58] Domestic sheep were first introduced to the Americas during the second voyage of Columbus
martlut 1 year ago
There are six references to cattle made in the Book of Mormon, including verbiage suggesting they were domesticated.[52] There is no evidence that Old World cattle (members of the genus Bos) inhabited the New World prior to European contact in the 16th century AD.
martlut 1 year ago
Horses are mentioned eleven times in the Book of Mormon in the context of its New World setting.[37] There is no evidence that horses existed on the American continent during the 2500-3000 year history of the Book of Mormon (2500 BC - 400 AD) The only evidence of horses on the American continent dates to pre-historic times
martlut 1 year ago
The National Geographic Society, in a 1998 letter to the Institute for Religious Research, stated "Archaeologists and other scholars have long probed the hemisphere's past and the society does not know of anything found so far that has substantiated the Book of Mormon."[35]
martlut 1 year ago
The Smithsonian Institution issued an official statement in 1996 and again in 1998 that it considered the Book of Mormon to be "a religious document and not a scientific guide," and that it "has found no archaeological evidence to support [the book's] claims.
martlut 1 year ago
Book of Mormon has been used as a geographic guide in Arabia. It is incumbent upon you to support this affirmative claim. Mormons made the claim. Now prove it. If all you can offer are suppositions, excuses, and disappearing rivers, then you need to have sufficient intellectual honesty to stop claiming that the Book of Mormon can be used as a geographical guide.
martlut 1 year ago
Please name the continually-flowing river that emptied into the Red Sea.
martlut 1 year ago
this is again just wishful thinking, not evidence. show me the artefacts.
If your tempted to say "only god can really tell you"
then remove the words evidence from the title.
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 Location of the sword of Laban ? you say. I would be very interested.
Is this a guessing game ?
Ok. Where is the steel sword of Laban ?
kramd1 1 year ago
@LDS4Life71 Good afternoon to you too. troll that you call yourself ?
Not sure what your referring to. I Hope your feeling better, whatever it is your venting.
kramd1 1 year ago
Nahom-pretty much game set and match for proof the BoM is true. Sorry anti's.
1pt21jigawatt 1 year ago 14
@1pt21jigawatt NHM does not equal Nahom.
kramd1 1 year ago
@kramd1 Don't blame me. Blame the archeologist and the people of that area. They discovered it. Besides isn't it a little too coincidental that it's also an ancient burying place of people living during the time of Lehi? It's time to take off the blinders dude.
1pt21jigawatt 1 year ago