@thegodyfromcp Chuck Norris is badass and all, but I don't think it's even possible for someone to do that, unless they are some sort of super-god. Ergo, Olimar is Chuck Norris's grand father.
@jbeast181 I don't usually speedrun games - I like to take my time and enjoy 'em. Pikmin just lends itself to speedrunning though, because of the time and organisational aspects and how short it is. But I have too many other interests to work that hard on getting fast times on lots of games.
@Grim0915 one thing is missing in this game.. a RTS for 2 player in a map. with like, 100 PKM for both side. with mode like king of the hill, or territory capture, or the good old seek and destroy the ennemy base xD
I think I did a complete all parts run in 15 days, but I haven't played it in so long.
Selling it was a bad decision.
From what I'm reading here that's a damn impressive run. Then again I may have just remembered it wrong, and didn't finish it that fast. It was either 15 or 25, but I'm inclined to think 15.
i think the first day should be shown because it's a speedrun, and if I recall correctly, you can't get pikmin to bloom on the first day unless you wait it out, which would waste a lot of time and call for some strategy changes.
letting the pikmin bloom is pretty much the only thing that could have any nuance in speed runs, so pretty much anyone's first day of this game is the same
you know, looking back at pikmin, i realize now how hard and stressful it is to do things on a certain schedule and follow it to the dot. theres so much to do at once and no particularly good order to do it in, it basicly means that your actions every day will affect the next...and the next and next. if you make one small mess up, it could spell death for olimar, or his army.
When i first did this when i was 6 it took me all 30 days. Now i can do it in ten god damn forest navel cant do it in 3 trips must take four i know it sounds sad...
to post a video on you tube you have to save the video to your documents then go to the video post then type in the stuff then go to bwrose then look for the pikmin video name and then click post but you have to wait for the video to get posted it takes some time because its transporting the video to youtube
hold up. jumpmansbro from when im typing right now it says that shaslo typed his message a week before you. and you know what i still see his message on the screen, so how did you not see it? @_@
I hate when the Dwarf Bulborbs wake up the big Bulborbs with that cry they make. (Not the one when you kill them, the other one that's a higher pitch.)
I just got the game today, I'm on my 20th part and my 15th day. I love the game so far however my only big complaint is how bomb rocks are implemented. I lost 50 pikmin once because I accidentally whistle while a yellow one was holding a bomb.
A minor complaint is how I can barely multi-task. It's only minor because I understand it's a key element of challenge.
I love the first pikmin more, cuz it has more originality, but its timed, so you cant really take the time to really just go out and explore the planet. I hope that in pikmin 3 (if there is one) they can make a much more expandable playing field, and maybe re introduce places from the first game?
Judging by the way u called me a HOMO, I would say u are a 10 year old bitch who probably loves this game. I dont cuz its a never ending repetitivefest. All you do is run around getting these little shits and doing nothing with them. BORE if I want fun I'll just play Brawl or Mario Kart....
no I love long games, Its just cuz its a stradegy kinda rpg game. I hate rpgs and stratedgy games except for advance wars, battalion wars, and fire emblem.
ok cpt omair(thats u) crashed into a metero and landed on a planet he found these pikmin red, yellow, and blue(note yellow&blue r found later in the game) and now u have 30 days to find all the ship parts that broke of and landed in diff areas and there r 30 parts its really fun and challenging and theres a pikmin 2!!!
hey just question from a pikmin player, how do u kill the giant bulbaxs (i think thats their name) with bomb-rocks? and amazing speedrun ive watched all of it! ur good!
This game looks so old now... Pikmin 2, looks better... Wonder how Pikmin 3 is gonna turn out? Did the Pikmin secretly follow him home, and they will go to another planet?
Damn, your good. I just beat the game in 14 days, but I wasn't trying for a speed run. If there is anyone who CAN'T beat this game (even with all 30 days used), you shouldn't be playing videogames at all.
What's fun about it? What isn't! I have this game, and personally it's the most fun I've ever had on a game. This puts mario galaxy to shame! It's an entire ecosystem of fun and you get to control the most powerful species on it. I highly recommend getting this game
That would be awesome. IF there is gonna be one. I hope you have to flick your remote to throw them...well actually...that would cause a lot of pain...
Chuck norris can complete pikmin in 1 day
thegodyfromcp 6 months ago
@thegodyfromcp Chuck Norris is badass and all, but I don't think it's even possible for someone to do that, unless they are some sort of super-god. Ergo, Olimar is Chuck Norris's grand father.
SirDakkalot 2 months ago
record is 10 using the old 10day strat
jkfanify 6 months ago
any game with a timer on it is a peice of sht in my book X3 (gonna get so much hate for syaing that but come at me trolls!)
LightRiolu 7 months ago in playlist Pikmin Speedrun
@LightRiolu >Expects to get a bunch of flak for voicing a dumbass opinion
>Claims anyone who attacks his opinion is a troll
>Implying you aren't a troll for this
God damnit, youtube is getting worse than 4chan
SirDakkalot 2 months ago
@SirDakkalot note how i said "im gonna get so much hate for that", and it was 4 months ago
LightRiolu 2 months ago
@LightRiolu I did note that. I did not, however, notice that it was 4 months ago.
SirDakkalot 2 months ago
My personal best is 12 days, but it would be REALLY hard to get it in 9 because you can't lose any Pikmin. I don't know if I could do that.
MajorasMaskMailman 10 months ago
Lol at his impatience when his pikmin were knocking down the wall and he had nothing to do ;)
My record is 13 days - I must improve.
00roastedlampost00 1 year ago
@00roastedlampost00 dang dude, my record is 15 days.
jbeast181 11 months ago
@jbeast181 Eleven days now baby! 2 days on the Distant Spring! :D
00roastedlampost00 11 months ago
@00roastedlampost00 dang! are you like, good at speedrunning in video games?
jbeast181 11 months ago
@jbeast181 I don't usually speedrun games - I like to take my time and enjoy 'em. Pikmin just lends itself to speedrunning though, because of the time and organisational aspects and how short it is. But I have too many other interests to work that hard on getting fast times on lots of games.
00roastedlampost00 11 months ago
o btw to anyone um you need 53 pikmin to do the game thats it
lukechandlerrules 1 year ago
@lukechandlerrules no you only need 50
Pokemongod777 1 year ago
My best is 11 for both games, if not 10 for pikmin 2
YacubCubby13579ZR 1 year ago
Everybody keeps complaining about the time limit. Is it really that hard?
MacDaddyRiggles 1 year ago
@MacDaddyRiggles Lost in the game about ten times. Got one normal. And one best. For some reason, the Wii version allows time travel.
Martino351 1 year ago
1 day >.< haha no just kidding, i'm playing it again right now, man I love this game..
Grim0915 1 year ago
@Grim0915 one thing is missing in this game.. a RTS for 2 player in a map. with like, 100 PKM for both side. with mode like king of the hill, or territory capture, or the good old seek and destroy the ennemy base xD
oly355 1 year ago
I wonder if there will be a Pikmin TAS... hum...
xXXYoshiRockzXXx 1 year ago
This game brings back good memories :)
iChocolateAddict 1 year ago
Random fact, you can get every part on Forest of Hope without blues
bobMcFreddyKrugerson 1 year ago
@bobMcFreddyKrugerson its called "the blueless challenge"
illegalwaffles 1 year ago
HAHA I played that game when I didn't understood english and I was baad xD
I hit the 30th day, and I needed more stuff for the ship xD I really screwed that one up xD
oly355 1 year ago
I think I did a complete all parts run in 15 days, but I haven't played it in so long.
Selling it was a bad decision.
From what I'm reading here that's a damn impressive run. Then again I may have just remembered it wrong, and didn't finish it that fast. It was either 15 or 25, but I'm inclined to think 15.
SethWhiteFox 1 year ago
mabe 20 x) hehe
oly355 1 year ago
I feel like a dousche reading all these comments. It took me 28 days :(
MisterMoist 1 year ago
i needed 16 days
butterfly6667 1 year ago
6 days =D nobody can beat that >=D
iDutchGirl 1 year ago
@iDutchGirl Action Replay?
xXXYoshiRockzXXx 1 year ago
@xXXYoshiRockzXXx without action replay =P
iDutchGirl 1 year ago
@xXXYoshiRockzXXx - It's a lie :P iDutchGirl couldn't have beaten it in 6 days.
1 - Impact site
2 - Forest of hope
3 - Forest Naval
4 - If you SOMEHOW managed to get to Distant Spring, that'd go here
5 - RETURN to Impact site to get other treasure (need blues)
6 - RETURN to Forest of Hope (need blues)
7 - Final Trial
If you even managed to SOMEHOW get every part in every area in 2 days or less, you'd need 7 days anyway because of the last (bonus) level : )
Qbuilderz 1 year ago
2 Days at the Crash Site [Necessary, need blue]
2 Days at the Forest [Necessary, need blue]
2 Days Underground
2 Days at the Pond
1 Day at the Final Area
By what feat of organization were you able to perform both the Underground and the Pond at one day each?
Kiruklee 2 years ago
I finished in 12 days.
MrJark2 2 years ago
my best is 18 days
illegalwaffles 2 years ago
I can barely finish it in 19...
cris931609 2 years ago
When they were breaking the gate, that was way too long...
Marzell765 2 years ago
i can now beat it in 12 days!!! XD
TwilightLink37 2 years ago 2
I just think that you have an advantage if you start with all flower pikmin as opposed to leaf pikmin
FriedChckn13 2 years ago
i think the first day should be shown because it's a speedrun, and if I recall correctly, you can't get pikmin to bloom on the first day unless you wait it out, which would waste a lot of time and call for some strategy changes.
FriedChckn13 2 years ago 3
letting the pikmin bloom is pretty much the only thing that could have any nuance in speed runs, so pretty much anyone's first day of this game is the same
BigOlBagOfWhatsNew 2 years ago
I never actually finished Pikmin 1...Though I've finished Pikmin 2 in 12 days. Nice vid.
Lnmul 2 years ago
my best is 13 days but i can always try in 12 lol
TwilightLink37 2 years ago
I did 12 once, I thought that was impressive but then I see this 9 days stuff and I was like jesus
BigOlBagOfWhatsNew 2 years ago
my first gamecube game D; ah memories
Illumatrix2 2 years ago 3
i got it in 10 days i was soooooo pissed because i was like 3 seconds away from safe and then the day ended i was like grrrrr >:O
pikminman333 2 years ago
I did a speedrun on my own, very proud of my 12 days, then I come on here and see it can be done in 9!
rubbermuck 2 years ago 4
11 days for me. Just a few hours ago.
roadjam 2 years ago
no day 1... why?
UltraSonicTH 2 years ago
casue all you do is get like 25 red flower pikmin and the first ship part with no time limit
Supermariofan14 2 years ago
the first day has no time limit, so anyone can take their time and fetch the max of 25 pikmin and shuttle part.
rubbermuck 2 years ago
you know, looking back at pikmin, i realize now how hard and stressful it is to do things on a certain schedule and follow it to the dot. theres so much to do at once and no particularly good order to do it in, it basicly means that your actions every day will affect the next...and the next and next. if you make one small mess up, it could spell death for olimar, or his army.
shadowmario1000 2 years ago 31
My best time was 10 or 11 days, but I couldn't have done that without following this speedrun closely
deathsmage 3 years ago
very skilled nice
warrior4ever1992 3 years ago
it makes me feel more macro-managable that i am able to get the Secret Safe in the same day that i enter the Final Trial too!
FriedChckn13 3 years ago 3
i once completed a 9 day run, but with deaths and more than 100 pikmin. it was nothing compared to this!
pikminman333 3 years ago 4
can you make a pikmin 2 speedrun to
Picturebear 3 years ago
my best was 12 WITH smoky proog
i always play with...that thing
RedYoshi75 3 years ago
My best time is 19 days. Wonderful, a game like Pikmin can be very stressful if you want to make a speedrun.
Yoshikevin 3 years ago
i could never beat it...
Ididnotdothismyself 3 years ago
13 days =/ lol
zofa23 3 years ago
When i first did this when i was 6 it took me all 30 days. Now i can do it in ten god damn forest navel cant do it in 3 trips must take four i know it sounds sad...
FriedChckn13 3 years ago
my first time beating this game was exactly 30 days!
Now I can beat it in 15... but I still can't compare to this!
Xreaper2070 3 years ago
its cool how olimar is in brawl.
mrm64 3 years ago 4
fastest was 15
would have been 14 but that bastard bulblax ran the clock out far enough so i had to return to pick up the item
mewpoo 3 years ago
did it in 14 days
my first time in 23 days
spades48 3 years ago
my fastest was 21 days
PICKAR1 3 years ago
i want pimin 3, NOW!
THEROILER1 3 years ago 4
0:49 is that sweet big twnty :P LOL XD
link123253 3 years ago
this guy is awesome
seadog5328 3 years ago
19 days.
ratchetandmetaknight 3 years ago
so the basic idea for pikmin is to rebuild your ship in 30 or less days. kinda reminds me of LOZ:majoras mask
EMWISE94 3 years ago 17
@EMWISE94 How so?
OrganicTastesBetter 1 year ago
@EMWISE94 I can just Think of Olimar talking to Link from LOZ:MM.
Olimar:" I have 30 days to get all my spaceship parts and get back home before I die!"
Link:"So what? I have only 3 DAYS to save the whole world from a giant falling moon!"
ThePokemanz1 1 year ago
@ThePokemanz1 LOL
RudellTheWolf 1 year ago
@ThePokemanz1 But Link gets to cheat. :3c
Davidkun5109 1 year ago
@ThePokemanz1
Olimar: "Yeah, but you have a ocarina that infinitely sends you back in time 3 days."
Link: 0_o
Euphoniumplayer29 1 year ago
@Euphoniumplayer29 Link-But if you mess up, you can just try again.
Olimar-Touche, but i don't make any progress, like if i wanted 3 parts, but got 2, i had to start over.
Link-Touche.
CoolSonicStuff 1 year ago
first try too
arrancarman 3 years ago
i've done it in 11 days
arrancarman 3 years ago 5
15 Days for me
WarningSDE 3 years ago
My fastest is 21 days.
monseurkez 3 years ago
about 23 days for me
facepoke 3 years ago
Wonderful !
Yoshikevin 3 years ago
i like taking my time its more fun that way
yoshimaster20 3 years ago 4
Overlord seemed to take a few lessons from this :P
Assassin00Eragon 3 years ago
20.
WARLOCK262 3 years ago
to post a video on you tube you have to save the video to your documents then go to the video post then type in the stuff then go to bwrose then look for the pikmin video name and then click post but you have to wait for the video to get posted it takes some time because its transporting the video to youtube
d4matt 3 years ago
who asked?
jumpmansbro 3 years ago
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jumpmansbro ur retard look at shaslo's comment retard
acaradimos 3 years ago
hey dumbass it wasn't on the page at the time i posted the comment
jumpmansbro 3 years ago
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Wow, you are a retard who doesn't says nothing more than retard.
SHYKOOPA 3 years ago
hold up. jumpmansbro from when im typing right now it says that shaslo typed his message a week before you. and you know what i still see his message on the screen, so how did you not see it? @_@
armoniallen 3 years ago
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shutup you retarded retard XD drop it someone was just being a tool--- i meant retard
acaradimos 3 years ago
hey f anyone needs a walkthrough for submerged castle ill do it.one thing though,how do i post the video on youtube??
Shaslo 3 years ago
why is he starting at forest of hope?
scorpria33 3 years ago
he didnt. watching the impact site is a waste of time
whitepikmin612 3 years ago
Would it be better to break the gate with 25 Pikmin, or pull one Pikmin aside and have it carry one of the pellets in the area to make 2 more Pikmin?
Samsasrenjet 3 years ago
that music is in brawl!
twilightprincess510 3 years ago
I beat it in 18 days once.
But Ive beat the game many, many times.
chriscojr11 3 years ago
My reccord (and first attempt) was 23 days.
Samsasrenjet 3 years ago
mine was 16,i collected 4 to 3 treasures each day to go this fast.i restarted many times to do this.
Shaslo 3 years ago
likewise
leons555 3 years ago
I hate when the Dwarf Bulborbs wake up the big Bulborbs with that cry they make. (Not the one when you kill them, the other one that's a higher pitch.)
PIKMINROCKS 3 years ago 2
that stinks that u only get thirty days
guitarhero0156 3 years ago
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u have to suck to not be able to beat in those days
IRock81 3 years ago
Nah... Its WAY too much
DeDaDoDu 2 years ago
I just got the game today, I'm on my 20th part and my 15th day. I love the game so far however my only big complaint is how bomb rocks are implemented. I lost 50 pikmin once because I accidentally whistle while a yellow one was holding a bomb.
A minor complaint is how I can barely multi-task. It's only minor because I understand it's a key element of challenge.
aradae2357 3 years ago
pikmin 2 is a lot better but 1 is also really good
iamanotsalesman 3 years ago
my high score was 23 days (i think)
iamanotsalesman 3 years ago
This game is awesome cause its really fun and hard(in some parts) all the time. =)
DiddyKong10 3 years ago
I love the first pikmin more, cuz it has more originality, but its timed, so you cant really take the time to really just go out and explore the planet. I hope that in pikmin 3 (if there is one) they can make a much more expandable playing field, and maybe re introduce places from the first game?
ariesthegolden1 3 years ago
Judging by the way u called me a HOMO, I would say u are a 10 year old bitch who probably loves this game. I dont cuz its a never ending repetitivefest. All you do is run around getting these little shits and doing nothing with them. BORE if I want fun I'll just play Brawl or Mario Kart....
Circa9993 3 years ago
this looks fun
Kinnikujoe1 3 years ago
circa9993 is it to long?
pikmin6454 3 years ago
no I love long games, Its just cuz its a stradegy kinda rpg game. I hate rpgs and stratedgy games except for advance wars, battalion wars, and fire emblem.
Circa9993 3 years ago
I can tell that this is an (awesome) stradegy game, but what part of this is rpg?
KataMario777 3 years ago
frick you this game is the best. i beat it in 14 days
pikmin6454 3 years ago
Me too. It's very hard getting under 14 days.
KataMario777 3 years ago
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i hate this game its soooooooo boring....
Circa9993 3 years ago
There's no playlist on your channel XD
mario11168 3 years ago
It should be there now.
Metaknight121 3 years ago
beat it w/ all parts in 30 days :( cant beat this
Manga4evr12 3 years ago
on my frst try, I beat it in 24 days. Nice job though :D
000FallenStar000 3 years ago
in 20 days
IRock81 3 years ago
yea me and u took turns but we didn't do good with are blue pikmin
therealguitarhero44 3 years ago
how many days do u get to beat pikmin 1 ?
guitarhero0156 3 years ago
30 days.
Metaknight121 3 years ago
i have pikmin 2 but i want pikmin 1 there both the best game ever!!!
guitarhero0156 3 years ago 2
I WANT PIKMIN BACK I LOVED IT TILL MY FRIEND BROKE IT!!!!!!!! (sob sob)
icebound84 3 years ago
some freind they are
Number87012 3 years ago 5
lol i hope that friend burns in hell ^.^ lol jk but he moved anyway : )
icebound84 3 years ago
really.
000FallenStar000 3 years ago
there there, you will always have your memories, but it truly is the best game ever!
but can i ask a question. wich one is better? 1 or 2? i have both but i can't decide! halp pl0x!
AgentToreno 3 years ago
I make a pros and cons list at this point. I'll help you with that.
Pikmin 1 is the first one to complete most of us and it has an eerie kind of mood I like (more likely in the dark), but it's time limited.
Pikmin 2 is unlimited and more tresures and challenges...but I can't think of any cons.
KataMario777 3 years ago
Pikmin 2 is better imo just because it's a lot longer, but both are really good.
Metaknight121 3 years ago
kinda remind me of Overlord
rocharox 3 years ago 2
Ha ha ha, a lot of people say that Overlord reminds them of Pikmin, too.
taw386 3 years ago 2
yea same concept but i like pikmin a bit more
SteelgodLink 3 years ago 2
one of the most gorgeous games ever.
Erinkun 3 years ago 4
can someone give me the gist of how to play and what this game is about.
usedangel000 3 years ago 3
ok cpt omair(thats u) crashed into a metero and landed on a planet he found these pikmin red, yellow, and blue(note yellow&blue r found later in the game) and now u have 30 days to find all the ship parts that broke of and landed in diff areas and there r 30 parts its really fun and challenging and theres a pikmin 2!!!
Rockman1877 3 years ago
i see, well, i'll try it out sometime this week :D
usedangel000 3 years ago
Great game
DarkerEyes008 3 years ago
They should definatly consider making Pikmin 3 for the Wii.
The fact that Olimar is playable in Brawl just gives even more potential ( :
ubersnoobers 3 years ago 4
I don't know why they wouldn't since the first two scored over a 90 on metacritic.
Metaknight121 3 years ago
I wonder how fast a person can do Pikmin 2, while collecting all 201 teasures?
Powmia3P 3 years ago
I'v done it in 7 days
TheNWOInquisition 3 years ago
I'v done it in 7 days
TheNWOInquisition 3 years ago
I dunno, But it is possible to collect 200 treasures in 8 days :D
000FallenStar000 3 years ago
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why do pl like this game...its terrible
captainobvious49 3 years ago
Pikmin 4 Lyfe
Metaknight121 3 years ago
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Cool people play pikmin... Seriously :D No0ubs play PS ( Piss sucker) 3
DeDaDoDu 2 years ago
Just bought this game today along with Starfox Adventures, for 30 bucks, best 30 bucks I've basically ever spent.
hypervyper76 3 years ago 2
I loved this game but I never beet it sadly.
MooMooCow95 3 years ago
hey just question from a pikmin player, how do u kill the giant bulbaxs (i think thats their name) with bomb-rocks? and amazing speedrun ive watched all of it! ur good!
AgentToreno 4 years ago
pikminは揺れる
私はpikminを愛する
LikeBroLikeSis2k7 4 years ago
This game looks so old now... Pikmin 2, looks better... Wonder how Pikmin 3 is gonna turn out? Did the Pikmin secretly follow him home, and they will go to another planet?
triforceofgaming101 4 years ago 3
There's a/going to be a Pikmin 3?
Nesaru 4 years ago
They haven't officially announced it yet but there probably will be one.
Metaknight121 4 years ago
Considering how successful the franchise is (and how much I love it) I hope so.
BowmanYoshi 3 years ago
6:10
Bulbax: WTF? *BOOM*
Elvisgratton90 4 years ago 3
I always read what Olimar is saying in his journal out loud.
I never skip it.
genchandy 4 years ago
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Damn, your good. I just beat the game in 14 days, but I wasn't trying for a speed run. If there is anyone who CAN'T beat this game (even with all 30 days used), you shouldn't be playing videogames at all.
TitaniusAquarius202 4 years ago
Wow, you're not a jackass.
Humanxray32 4 years ago 4
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Thanks, that means a lot to me.
TitaniusAquarius202 4 years ago
poor innocent bulborbs...oh well who cares?There evil.
iammadrightnow 4 years ago 6
dude this is the best freakin game ever made! i could play this and never get bored! REDS RULE!
ultimateguitarist07 4 years ago
Yea First game i bot when gamecube came out 7+years later its still fun =) if the dangerous part wasnt there then it would be boring...
animefan994 4 years ago 5
yea me too that was the first game cube game i ever played, i played it at this guys house, 2 minits n 23 seconds later i wuz hooked... LOL!
ultimateguitarist07 4 years ago 5
I don't really get this game, whats to love about it, i was interestend in buying it once but...it looks a little boring, i dunno, i never played.
Bokuyatsu 4 years ago
It might not look very exciting, but trust me it's a really fun game. You should definitely get this or Pikmin 2 if you can find it.
Metaknight121 4 years ago
What's fun about it? What isn't! I have this game, and personally it's the most fun I've ever had on a game. This puts mario galaxy to shame! It's an entire ecosystem of fun and you get to control the most powerful species on it. I highly recommend getting this game
Willhudski 4 years ago
I agree xd, i liked mario galaxy but it isnt has good has pikmin and pikmin 2
Cossner 4 years ago 4
I'd hate to complete this game in 9 days! I like to savour my games, otherwise they're over too quickly. D:
Apakoha 4 years ago
Some people like to challenge themselves after completing a game normally.
Archonus 4 years ago
Yeah I guess so. He must have played this game ALOT of times to know exactly where everything is...
Apakoha 4 years ago 4
i love this bgm! its so soothing and relaxing!
nypr89 4 years ago 4
god i love pikmin and i hope there will be a new pikmin for wii!
holzh 4 years ago 7
That would be awesome. IF there is gonna be one. I hope you have to flick your remote to throw them...well actually...that would cause a lot of pain...
Antwonster93 4 years ago