I wish we could hear Robbin's rhythm guitar parts more.
I think maybe Robbin would be more audible if his guitar was tuned lower (but not so hard that it overwhelms the melody) and if Stephen wasn't quite as overbearing vocally (he overpowers the instrumentation a bit too much).
The best kind of sound mixing is when everyone is equal so it gives you an option as what you want to hear. Also, it makes the music more epic if the instruments are just as loud or louder as/than the vocals.
I don't mean tune his guitar down so that it sounds like death metal or somewhere on those lines.
In the Detonator documentary, Robbin said something akin to the effect that he was the guitarist who delivers the edgier counterparts to Warren's melodic playing.
Just like on the album, it's hard to make out Robbin's guitar parts here. After decreasing the bass and increasing the treble when listening to this song on Windows Media Player, Rob's guitar doesn't seem to differ in tone from Warren's.
On vinyl, Detonator has a spacious quality to it because listening to something that's presented in analog format has a certain texture or depth that you may not get in a digital format.
Judas Priest's Rob Halford noted this when talking about the differences between the two when it came to producing the digitally produced Turbo. Both Halford and Juan have used the word warmth to describe the differences between analog and digital.
As a result, Givin' yourself Away sounds more epic on vinyl.
The downside to listening to it on vinyl is that you don't get the same level of clarity (in regards to detecting Robbin's rhythm guitaring) if you decrease the bass and increase the treble.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Robbin's guitar sound could have done with having the same level of ambience that can be heard in the hard rock ballads of Skid Row's Slave to the Grind LP (Quicksand Jesus, Wasted Time and In a Darkened Room) or even Metallica's The Unforgiven or Nothing Else Matters.
Even when someone asked Juan on his old message board as to whether Robbin played on the album, Juan noted that it was hard to hear him.
I've heard Detonator on both CD and vinyl which both come with a positive and a negative.
On CD, it doesn't have the same level of strength the earlier Ratt albums have (hence why a lot of fans accused it of being overproduced or too polished) but you can hear Rob's guitar parts more clearly when you do what I did when listening to it on Windows Media Player.
Robbin Crosby was the only REAL talent in this group I miss him so much RIP Robbin
pamela46ohio 10 months ago
ratt 4 life!
ItalianWarrior777 1 year ago
I wish we could hear Robbin's rhythm guitar parts more.
I think maybe Robbin would be more audible if his guitar was tuned lower (but not so hard that it overwhelms the melody) and if Stephen wasn't quite as overbearing vocally (he overpowers the instrumentation a bit too much).
The best kind of sound mixing is when everyone is equal so it gives you an option as what you want to hear. Also, it makes the music more epic if the instruments are just as loud or louder as/than the vocals.
JosephKuby 2 years ago 4
Tuned lower? That changes the notes, and would sound horrible with the song.
Hope you meant "turned". :(
Let's be honest.. who wants to hear Robbin over Warren? ;(
gl0stix 2 years ago
I don't mean tune his guitar down so that it sounds like death metal or somewhere on those lines.
In the Detonator documentary, Robbin said something akin to the effect that he was the guitarist who delivers the edgier counterparts to Warren's melodic playing.
Just like on the album, it's hard to make out Robbin's guitar parts here. After decreasing the bass and increasing the treble when listening to this song on Windows Media Player, Rob's guitar doesn't seem to differ in tone from Warren's.
JosephKuby 2 years ago
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JosephKuby 2 years ago
On vinyl, Detonator has a spacious quality to it because listening to something that's presented in analog format has a certain texture or depth that you may not get in a digital format.
Judas Priest's Rob Halford noted this when talking about the differences between the two when it came to producing the digitally produced Turbo. Both Halford and Juan have used the word warmth to describe the differences between analog and digital.
As a result, Givin' yourself Away sounds more epic on vinyl.
JosephKuby 2 years ago
The downside to listening to it on vinyl is that you don't get the same level of clarity (in regards to detecting Robbin's rhythm guitaring) if you decrease the bass and increase the treble.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Robbin's guitar sound could have done with having the same level of ambience that can be heard in the hard rock ballads of Skid Row's Slave to the Grind LP (Quicksand Jesus, Wasted Time and In a Darkened Room) or even Metallica's The Unforgiven or Nothing Else Matters.
JosephKuby 2 years ago
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Even when someone asked Juan on his old message board as to whether Robbin played on the album, Juan noted that it was hard to hear him.
I've heard Detonator on both CD and vinyl which both come with a positive and a negative.
On CD, it doesn't have the same level of strength the earlier Ratt albums have (hence why a lot of fans accused it of being overproduced or too polished) but you can hear Rob's guitar parts more clearly when you do what I did when listening to it on Windows Media Player.
JosephKuby 2 years ago
Excellent song.
CosmicRainbowColours 2 years ago 13