this looks not like a triple cork for me. torstein is taking more backflips with rotation, this dude is just rotating. i dont know if it is a triple cork, but i think torstein's better. sorry for bad english.
how do these people do this. when i go snowboarding and i hit a small jump and crash, i get the wind knocked out of me and im done jumping for the day, how do they crash all these times and get back up and do it again?
Torsteins at the X-Games was not a triple. He even admitted it after. He was the first to do one though. It only had a 540 in it, but it was still a triple cork. Then after him it was Mark McMorris.
Its funny because people argue about how its not a triple cork, even though it never was. Read the video title, for he is "attempting" no need for people to shit the bed and fight about whats corked etc.
aah sick! just a bit more.. dont kill me but i think this is way more stylish than torstein's one, he does more of like a triple backflip with spin than a real cork
Yeah you "can" cork a 3, but its near impossible to do just a straight up cork 3, because when you come out of it your usually leaning real far back with your nose up high.
But you can most certainly cork a 3 if your doing a 720, 900, etc..
And I think he was going for a 1260 anyways, but im not sure..
and TBH, I think torstein did a triple, i think the camera angles were just shitty and made it look different then it actually was.. IDK this is just my opinion. If you watch "the storming", torstein's part, at the end they show different angles of his triple that he did in norway, and one of the angles, looks almost looks identical to what he threw at the xgames, while the other angle definitely looks like a triple cork.
@sqwundle you mad? because torstein can do a triple whatever, and you cant? and if you really snowboarded you could tell there was a 1080 in torsteins triple.
@Rideget first of all i told this kid to shutup because every1 claiming that torsteins the best now even though they probably cant even name 3 more pro snowboarders besides shaun white. second of all i like torstein i give him props but what he landed in the x games was not a triple cork it was a triple back flip, 3 back flips= 3 inverted rotations=1080 so of course there was a 1080 in his triple but it wasnt corked ir was clearly inverted, what he landed in Norway was definitely a triple cork
@Gimle432 STFU fag you don't know shit about snowboarding Torstein was not a triple cork in Xgames15 obviously you don't know the difference between a backflip and a cork
@Forum310 I'm not talkin 'bout xgames. I'm talking about Torstein really first triple cork, on folgefonna. If you know sooooo much about snowboarding, you better see the FIRST TRIPLE CORK ON SNOWBOARD landed by Torstein Horgmo. The triple in xgames was a triple flip, i know that. take a look here at torstein FIRST triple cork
@Gimle432 yea they can, that was a triple cork which is way harder then triple flip so once this guy land this he will be much better, he prob is already better. fucking torstein is a god dam aerialist on a snowboard, its ugly
@zakk7929 McMorris lands a backside, it's easier because he can spot his landing. And Torstein landed the triple one year before mcmorris did. proud to be norwegian
@zakk7929 Mcmorris takes a backside, he can spot his landing. Torstein takes a frontside, he cant spot landing. but anyways, mark and torstein is both sick riders. Both of them is one of the best snowboarders in the world!
@postcanyonbike Bobby Brown is a skier fucking idiot. If you compare twin-tip and snowboarding you really don't know shit. Torstein landed the triple cork first and he was the guy who sat fire to the triple mainia. Without Torstein, McMorris or Seb Toots wouldn't have landed a triple cork...
@Gimle432 yeah bobby brown is a skier. In my opinion, he sent the steeziest triple cork out of everyone, regardless of whether they ride or ski. And just because Torstein threw it first doesn't automatically make his the best. Yeah, I agree that he gets MAJOR props for being the first one to land it, but I just didn't think his was as stylish as the others.
@SnowVTS A triple cork is any rotation where your head is lower than your snowboard three times. Every rotation is off axis of some degree, but that does not make it a cork.
@bl4ckfox You cant snap a cork 3 out, You have to let your center of gravity sag with the airtime to get you corked. It is Hypothetically correct to do a triple 10 if you have counter weight on your board or something.
@fatrichard30303 i would agree that this one is more cork like than torstein, but torstien did not do a triple rodeo. if anything, he did a triple underflip, because in order for it to have been a rodeo he woulda had to either do a triple backflip with a backside spin, or a triple frontflip (egg roll) frontside spin.
First of all Torstein did it clean... his head was upside down 3 times and it looked awesome.
This guy is a pussy. All he wants is attention or something.. He doesn't even do a flip. All he does is rotating in some off axis shitty way, and then he goes telling everybody he nearly did a triple cork.
torstein has got BALLS... he could have easily landed on his neck the last flip.
and btw torstein did fs and this guy bs.. makes it easier for ''seth''
Alright.. well seth wasn't going for a triple flip, he was going for a TRUE triple cork. Learn your shit before you talk because you sound like an idiot. Your not even supposed to flip for a cork.
@rubbn95 A cork is defined as an off axis spin, exactly what Seth Hill is doing, he spins off axis at 3 separate points throughout and is correctly performing a triple cork. Torstein is sick no doubt but he did not do a real triple cork.
@rubbn95 so you definetly dont know what you are talking about because if you did know anything about snowboarding, you would know that if your doing a cork spin you don't do a flip, you simply go off axis. Also, this guy is from like medford oregon where they barley have a park, and now hes almost pro. Third, this is one of the hardest tricks to this date, so don't be talking shit about how its not "steezy" because if you can get anywhere close to a triple cork, than your an incredible rider.
it depends... on fronside cork spins, the rider usually goes FULLY inverted with a spin added during th flip (THorgmo) on a bacside cork they dont go fully... they only get their head lower than the board <-- off-axis...
@rubbn95 alright obviously your a fucking gaper that rides a shitty as burton with tons of monster stickers on it, you dont even know what the fuck a triple cork is, a cork NEVER goes completely inverted and what he is doing here is about as textbook as it gets. and this guy has just about as much balls as torstein he tries that trick over and over again and gets really close so fuck you
@rubbn95 ARE YOU A FUCKING RETARD, CORKS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OFF AXIS. AND WHY IS EVERYBODY COMPARING TRIPLE CORKS WITH TORSEINS XGAMES ONE, HAVE YOU NOT SEEN TORSTEINS ORIGINAL ONE GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU TALK SHIT BRO. AND I FIND FRONTSIDE CORKS HARDER
if you watch the rotation it looks like hes going for a backside triple cork 1080 its weird as fuck
ronnoc275 1 day ago
this looks not like a triple cork for me. torstein is taking more backflips with rotation, this dude is just rotating. i dont know if it is a triple cork, but i think torstein's better. sorry for bad english.
ItzMads 1 month ago
this looks more of a tripple cork than torstein's to me for some reason. maybe becasue its backside and his was front
NBSnowboard 1 month ago
hes not even starting the third flip until after the knuckle
belbas321 2 months ago
thats actually really close for how long ago it was..
qazels 2 months ago
I thought the jump was bigger in the thumbnail ^^
sledz4life 2 months ago
I can tell ya what he did wrong, he didn't land it.
PurpleWaxProductions 2 months ago
Can't get it like Torstien Horgmo
codean123 2 months ago
@codean123
this is Backside. his was frontside
TDSUSERS 2 months ago
@TDSUSERS Okay i see now.
codean123 2 months ago
der kicker ist zu klein omg.
elifreerider 2 months ago
how do these people do this. when i go snowboarding and i hit a small jump and crash, i get the wind knocked out of me and im done jumping for the day, how do they crash all these times and get back up and do it again?
mgpBLARG 2 months ago
@mgpBLARG They are in shape and aren't pussies ;)
ZNT746 2 months ago
@ZNT746 dude weak
mgpBLARG 2 months ago
would it be helpful if i said your supost to land on your feet...not your ass?
rampage186 3 months ago
my fucking computer keepes freezing the video... bullshit
Createzmusic 3 months ago
That's gotta be some Bassnectar.
bnm5015 3 months ago
def of insanity-trying the same thing over and over yet expecting different results....keep hucking
PortlandViper 3 months ago
60 more degrees!
OzBooger 3 months ago
Torsteins at the X-Games was not a triple. He even admitted it after. He was the first to do one though. It only had a 540 in it, but it was still a triple cork. Then after him it was Mark McMorris.
ThunderChunky1303 3 months ago
why doesnt he just try it on bigger jumps?
TheUsernine 4 months ago
Mad props for huckin that man
chillin80424 4 months ago
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fall short and you will die
gunner9391 4 months ago
you're going to need a bigger jump
thewhistlerkid 4 months ago 30
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@thewhistlerkid you're right but that jumps still pretty gnarly
andyscape 3 months ago
Dude i love big jumps because they result in such soft landings like presented in this vid!
5055672439 5 months ago
@postcanyonbike you also forgot Mark McMorris switch frontside triple cork 12;)
SuperSnowboarder2 5 months ago
nEVER MIND I JUST STOPED THE VIDEO EARLY
MrEllingson123 5 months ago
NOT A TRIPPLE CORK YOU IDIOT
MrEllingson123 5 months ago
@MrEllingson123 what would you call it then smart ass
sheldoe49 5 months ago
i like those people trying again and again
GLADIETOR 5 months ago
dude took a beating
Baseball28205 5 months ago
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were gonna need a bigger boat
skizzle4shizzle 6 months ago
Seth is the man!! He was my snowboard coach at highcascade...dude rips
SamDalton60 6 months ago
Gay..
67burtonboy 6 months ago
that was my coach at high cascade, oregon natives WHADUP!
liameatsp8nt 6 months ago
If he thinks he's gonna land it on this jump.. then he's stupid as shit
dmh1177 6 months ago
Its funny because people argue about how its not a triple cork, even though it never was. Read the video title, for he is "attempting" no need for people to shit the bed and fight about whats corked etc.
sheldoe49 6 months ago
that is not even a triple cork, its three front alittle off axis but good try
SuperSnowboarder2 8 months ago
@SuperSnowboarder2 nahh... its cork
hahahahahaTR 7 months ago
@hahahahahaTR its debatable
SuperSnowboarder2 7 months ago
@SuperSnowboarder2 A cork is an off axis spin...some just go more inverted
guitarnoobssuck 7 months ago
@guitarnoobssuck yeah i know but he needed to add a 360 in there to consider it a triple cork
SuperSnowboarder2 7 months ago
bigger jump :)
zurcast 8 months ago
Fucking pat burgener is 16?!?!?!?!
Jenger89 9 months ago
Check out Pat Burgener. He's 16 and got switch trips
corriganmac 9 months ago
big jump, u almost have it guy dont be worried
cocoriko13 9 months ago
No.. but mcmorris is 17 years old man..
Torstein definitely needs some credit for throwing triples on the map.
Seb toots landed a backside triple 1440 recently too.. Search for it.
Jenger89 9 months ago
Dude that jump should to small for dubs..
mortymer98 9 months ago
I hate that a 10 degree difference is the only thing that separates a 1080 from a "triple cork"
yourrolemodel442 9 months ago
torstein wasnt even a triple cork he went inverted ffs
burnzy1111 10 months ago
@burnzy1111 maybe beacause you havent seen the best ,which not was in x-games....
MegaLosers 10 months ago
@burnzy1111 well thats a cork you dumbass
SuperTomy123 4 months ago
@SuperTomy123 noo a cork is off axis... u fuck head haha! u obviously dont know much about tricks
burnzy1111 4 weeks ago
You got to give it to him for not giving up!!
TheJibbaholic 10 months ago
The way that you are spinning it is going to make it impossible to land. You're gonna be backseat everytime, you gotta go 12 or 14.
sambuckmelter 10 months ago
aah sick! just a bit more.. dont kill me but i think this is way more stylish than torstein's one, he does more of like a triple backflip with spin than a real cork
woxta 11 months ago
this guys got balls
ipodvidoe 11 months ago
some were relle close but other i thoguth he was gonna die
m0gulsk1er 11 months ago
Like this if when you click the video the jump looks fake
TheSnowboardIN 11 months ago
These are all attempts at doubles. He doesn't need a bigger jump, he needs to spin a hell of a lot faster.
xxfinnellxx 11 months ago
@xxfinnellxx are you retarded?? can you not count? he dips his shoulder 3 times, brah
mrsplitnwigs 11 months ago
@mrsplitnwigs Most of these are cork-delay cork. The last one is a true triple though by watching his helmet.
None the less its fucking sick.
xxfinnellxx 11 months ago
/watch?v=_OVTXmJYUug
17 yr old landing a triple 1440 @ snowmass. Soo sick!
Jenger89 11 months ago
when all else fails, build a bigger jump
SnoWShoEcRAZy 11 months ago
Yeah you "can" cork a 3, but its near impossible to do just a straight up cork 3, because when you come out of it your usually leaning real far back with your nose up high.
But you can most certainly cork a 3 if your doing a 720, 900, etc..
And I think he was going for a 1260 anyways, but im not sure..
Jenger89 11 months ago
eitherway, lets give these guys props to whatever trick there doing, because it takes creative minds and balls of steal to do new tricks now'a'days.
Jenger89 11 months ago
hahaha rubbn95 is a fucking gaper..
and TBH, I think torstein did a triple, i think the camera angles were just shitty and made it look different then it actually was.. IDK this is just my opinion. If you watch "the storming", torstein's part, at the end they show different angles of his triple that he did in norway, and one of the angles, looks almost looks identical to what he threw at the xgames, while the other angle definitely looks like a triple cork.
Jenger89 11 months ago
this is so much better than torsteins switch 1 late triple backflip
sk8terdude135 11 months ago
get a bigger jump and you've got it dude
Austinconnick1 11 months ago
This is much better than under flip 180 + double back flip that Torstein calls a triple cork.
droppize 1 year ago
@droppize have u seen triple cork he landed in summer?
iinnffllaammeess 1 year ago
@iinnffllaammeess no i haven't? :s
droppize 11 months ago
@droppize maybe you should
iinnffllaammeess 11 months ago
so close!
Blackflip13 1 year ago
not even close to as good as torsteins but still sick
quitlife69 1 year ago
torstein doe slike double back to cork its so shitty. this is a real trip cork. respect
1kjacks1 1 year ago
@1kjacks1 dip shit watch his first one
MattLikesTricks 1 year ago
finally getting to true triple corks! :D
JurakaF 1 year ago
laughing pretty hard at the people giving tips. pretty sure he knows already.
loosealliance 1 year ago 3
Lol did you ever realize that you needed more air and another 180 to even get close to landing it?
PS3LUV3R 1 year ago
sooooo much better than torstein's
parks47 1 year ago
1.) you need a bigger jump
2.) try adding another 180 to the trple. your landing should be more upright
SICK!! KEEP AT IT
iheartsteezeskiing 1 year ago
He's so persistent
drewykinz 1 year ago
dude u need a bigger jump :)
goswegger 1 year ago 55
this is soo sick!
ShredDh 1 year ago
no one can beat torstein
Gimle432 1 year ago 33
@Gimle432 torstein wasnt even a triple morel like an underflip + 2 front flips. this guy is actually doing a legit triple
flame2467 1 year ago
@flame2467 this guy lands on his back. he is not even close. and the experts says that torstein lands a triple CORK, so f*** off
Gimle432 1 year ago
@flame2467 you dont think Torstein's was a triple? your the bieggest fucking retard ive ever seen in my life
popshuvitskater 4 months ago
@Gimle432 shut the fuck up
sqwundle 11 months ago
@Gimle432 shut up first of all torstein did like A TRIPLE BACKFLIP NOT TRIPLE CORK
sqwundle 11 months ago
@sqwundle you mad? because torstein can do a triple whatever, and you cant? and if you really snowboarded you could tell there was a 1080 in torsteins triple.
RideGet 11 months ago
@Rideget first of all i told this kid to shutup because every1 claiming that torsteins the best now even though they probably cant even name 3 more pro snowboarders besides shaun white. second of all i like torstein i give him props but what he landed in the x games was not a triple cork it was a triple back flip, 3 back flips= 3 inverted rotations=1080 so of course there was a 1080 in his triple but it wasnt corked ir was clearly inverted, what he landed in Norway was definitely a triple cork
sqwundle 11 months ago
@RideGet you owned him!
Gimle432 11 months ago
@Gimle432 read my reply dumbass
sqwundle 11 months ago
@Gimle432 STFU fag you don't know shit about snowboarding Torstein was not a triple cork in Xgames15 obviously you don't know the difference between a backflip and a cork
Forum310 11 months ago
@Forum310 I'm not talkin 'bout xgames. I'm talking about Torstein really first triple cork, on folgefonna. If you know sooooo much about snowboarding, you better see the FIRST TRIPLE CORK ON SNOWBOARD landed by Torstein Horgmo. The triple in xgames was a triple flip, i know that. take a look here at torstein FIRST triple cork
Gimle432 11 months ago
@Gimle432 yea they can, that was a triple cork which is way harder then triple flip so once this guy land this he will be much better, he prob is already better. fucking torstein is a god dam aerialist on a snowboard, its ugly
PointBlankP 10 months ago
@Gimle432 McMorris can..
rockAntoNrock 10 months ago
@rockAntoNrock McMorris lands a backside, it's easier because he can spot his landing. anyways, Mcmorris is pretty sick :)
Gimle432 10 months ago
@Gimle432 mark mcmorris? bs triple cork 1440
zakk7929 9 months ago
@zakk7929 lol, read my comment, dumbass
Gimle432 9 months ago
@Gimle432 mark mcmorris did beat him
zakk7929 9 months ago
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@zakk7929 McMorris lands a backside, it's easier because he can spot his landing. And Torstein landed the triple one year before mcmorris did. proud to be norwegian
Gimle432 9 months ago
@zakk7929 And Torstein landed the triple with a crushed ankle, did mcmorris? Nooo
Gimle432 9 months ago
@Gimle432 when was this
zakk7929 9 months ago
@zakk7929 torstein landed the triple 5th june 2010. Mark did it 2011. He crushed his ankle no his 4th try or something.
Gimle432 9 months ago
@Gimle432 yea but mcmorris trick is better then torsteins
zakk7929 9 months ago 2
@zakk7929 Mcmorris takes a backside, he can spot his landing. Torstein takes a frontside, he cant spot landing. but anyways, mark and torstein is both sick riders. Both of them is one of the best snowboarders in the world!
Gimle432 9 months ago
@zakk7929 no its not Torsteins is frontside which is much more technically difficult that Mcmorris's backside
headshot395 3 months ago
@headshot395 was torstiens 1440 i dont think so and if i was going to triple cok i would go frontside its easier to throw your self backwards
zakk7929 3 months ago
@zakk7929 Torstein all the way
RETICULER 3 months ago
@Gimle432 mark mcmorris's was way doper than toresteins!!!
MonkeyStix11 7 months ago
@Gimle432 Look up mark mcmorris his was a lot better and not on slush. Torstein still is a better boarder though.
thepowderdemon 7 months ago
@Gimle432 except for seb toots
soccerbreakdancer4 6 months ago
@Gimle432 seb toots triple cork is way better
skrzypek93 6 months ago
@Gimle432 Mark Mcmorris can and will
PinPointProduction24 5 months ago
@PinPointProduction24 True to that yo!!
boarder2727 5 months ago
@Gimle432 yeah nobody can top torstein... except for mark mcmorris, bobby brown, and seb toots...
postcanyonbike 5 months ago
@postcanyonbike Bobby Brown is a skier fucking idiot. If you compare twin-tip and snowboarding you really don't know shit. Torstein landed the triple cork first and he was the guy who sat fire to the triple mainia. Without Torstein, McMorris or Seb Toots wouldn't have landed a triple cork...
Gimle432 5 months ago
@Gimle432 yeah bobby brown is a skier. In my opinion, he sent the steeziest triple cork out of everyone, regardless of whether they ride or ski. And just because Torstein threw it first doesn't automatically make his the best. Yeah, I agree that he gets MAJOR props for being the first one to land it, but I just didn't think his was as stylish as the others.
postcanyonbike 5 months ago
@postcanyonbike
Bobby did a triple first, not his cork but the did a triple wackflip before torstein I believe
steezyjibbers 4 months ago
@postcanyonbike you forgot 16 years old Swiss pat burgener, who even did it switch ;)
illifourfingers 5 months ago
@Gimle432 and its gonna stay that way forever
2533hello 5 months ago
I bet if he hit a bigger jump he wouldve got it
rocketjav11 1 year ago
most of the attempts looks like dubs
JohnMagnusStarberg 1 year ago
now thats legit!!!! I hope homeboy lands this shit!!
78k5 1 year ago
isn't a triple cork consist of a 1620 off axis spin.. it looks like he's just going up to a 1080 or a 900
SnowVTS 1 year ago 2
@SnowVTS A triple cork is any rotation where your head is lower than your snowboard three times. Every rotation is off axis of some degree, but that does not make it a cork.
robrandt 1 year ago
@SnowVTS
dont talk shit, you can cork a 3, so its possile to do Triple 10
bl4ckfox 11 months ago
@bl4ckfox hey fuck you, i wasn't talking shit, I was just asking a question dumb ass
SnowVTS 11 months ago
@SnowVTS
oh sorry I missed the "isn't"!
I'm sorry about that, but please put a ? in there next time
;-)
bl4ckfox 11 months ago
@bl4ckfox You cant snap a cork 3 out, You have to let your center of gravity sag with the airtime to get you corked. It is Hypothetically correct to do a triple 10 if you have counter weight on your board or something.
xxfinnellxx 11 months ago
Fuck Yea TIPPER!
minniesnowta 1 year ago
The song is by Tipper, called "Razor Back"
minatwota 1 year ago
could anyone give me a song name of this video please ?
xakeriz 1 year ago
looks like he needs a bigger jump. does anyone know how long's the jump in this video?
mrfazer6 1 year ago
looks like he needs a bigger jump
mrfazer6 1 year ago
this is a proper triple cork torstein did a triple rodeo. corks are less flippy then rodeos.
fatrichard30303 1 year ago
@fatrichard30303 i would agree that this one is more cork like than torstein, but torstien did not do a triple rodeo. if anything, he did a triple underflip, because in order for it to have been a rodeo he woulda had to either do a triple backflip with a backside spin, or a triple frontflip (egg roll) frontside spin.
archer197 1 year ago
bigger jump and hed b nailin it, but none of those were very close...
TheKingZB 1 year ago
u folded that cock into a pussy
ILickPeople 1 year ago
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ILickPeople 1 year ago
Damn.. Hes so close! Looks much steezier than torestien IMO. Thats a TRUE triple cork.
Jenger89 1 year ago
@Jenger89 wtf are you talking about steezier ?
First of all Torstein did it clean... his head was upside down 3 times and it looked awesome.
This guy is a pussy. All he wants is attention or something.. He doesn't even do a flip. All he does is rotating in some off axis shitty way, and then he goes telling everybody he nearly did a triple cork.
torstein has got BALLS... he could have easily landed on his neck the last flip.
and btw torstein did fs and this guy bs.. makes it easier for ''seth''
rubbn95 1 year ago
@rubbn95
Alright.. well seth wasn't going for a triple flip, he was going for a TRUE triple cork. Learn your shit before you talk because you sound like an idiot. Your not even supposed to flip for a cork.
Jenger89 1 year ago
@rubbn95 A cork is defined as an off axis spin, exactly what Seth Hill is doing, he spins off axis at 3 separate points throughout and is correctly performing a triple cork. Torstein is sick no doubt but he did not do a real triple cork.
dikheddd 1 year ago
@rubbn95 so you definetly dont know what you are talking about because if you did know anything about snowboarding, you would know that if your doing a cork spin you don't do a flip, you simply go off axis. Also, this guy is from like medford oregon where they barley have a park, and now hes almost pro. Third, this is one of the hardest tricks to this date, so don't be talking shit about how its not "steezy" because if you can get anywhere close to a triple cork, than your an incredible rider.
thehendoe 1 year ago
@thehendoe
it depends... on fronside cork spins, the rider usually goes FULLY inverted with a spin added during th flip (THorgmo) on a bacside cork they dont go fully... they only get their head lower than the board <-- off-axis...
MegaNafets 1 year ago
@MegaNafets eat my nipples
thehendoe 11 months ago
@rubbn95 alright obviously your a fucking gaper that rides a shitty as burton with tons of monster stickers on it, you dont even know what the fuck a triple cork is, a cork NEVER goes completely inverted and what he is doing here is about as textbook as it gets. and this guy has just about as much balls as torstein he tries that trick over and over again and gets really close so fuck you
sqwundle 11 months ago
@rubbn95 ARE YOU A FUCKING RETARD, CORKS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OFF AXIS. AND WHY IS EVERYBODY COMPARING TRIPLE CORKS WITH TORSEINS XGAMES ONE, HAVE YOU NOT SEEN TORSTEINS ORIGINAL ONE GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU TALK SHIT BRO. AND I FIND FRONTSIDE CORKS HARDER
PiggMatt 11 months ago