Buy a new iron with different tips (flat, pencil & chisel) add flux liquid is good paste is better for a noob like you cause I just watched an IC being tortured.
This is how not to solder, for one you need a flat tip works best and you solder away from the chip package at the edge quickly, letting solder flow even on the pin, that why you need a flat tip. I never bridged a connection yet and looks like it was done by machine. Yes you do want to use flux, but not to much.
I'm sorry but that is NOT how you solder SMD components. As others have mentioned flux is a MUST here. Also by the time you've finished with that massive iron tip there's a possibility that the poor chip could have suffered due to thermal stress.
Even if one can't drag solder properly with a larger chisel tip, a smaller 1mm sized chisel tip would do fine for soldering this components pins separately.
Sodder? Why the hell is everyone saying "sodder"? SOL-DER for god's sake, the word is SOL-DER! Why is no-one pronouncing the "L"? Soddering is a completely different act altogether and I wouldn't recommend doing it with a hot iron.
@meelash1 The "L" is not silent you idiot, it never has been, never will be. Try an English dictionary instead of your Disneyland pop-up version with pictures. Sodder! LOL! I'm intrigued, what exactly is a dum-Bass? Is it a faulty sub-woofer? LOL! Look at it this way, I'm educating you for free and you didn't even have to leave your trailer! LOL
@kaferere dear god, you are making yourself look stupider and stupider. For starters please at least ACTUALLY LOOK UP THE WORD BEFORE REPLYING. Are you retarded, or just stupid and really, really overconfidant? This is the phonetic spelling of the word solder from the New Oxford American Dictionary: ˈsädər. Since I'm guessing you don't have enough schooling to be able to read a phonetic spelling, here is the audio from the american heritage: img[dot]tfd[dot]com/hm/mp3/S0545400[dot]mp3
@kaferere And since you are clearly too dense to catch on, "dum-Bass" was obviously a joke, since the "B" in dumbass is also silent like the "L" in solder.
@meelash1 I think you'll find that the problem here is yet another English word that americans find too difficult to pronounce, so they add their pronunciation to their own pop up dictionary and try to convince the rest of the world..ie. "Prolly". ."Prezidint" "Murka" "Terrrst" "Worya" (warrior) Tell me, is the "L" in "soldier" also silent? Is this why murkins never say it but use "worya" instead? How ironic, (iyonic) BTW I'm not your "confidant" Did you mean "confident"? It's "too" BTW.
@kaferere Dude, english spelling is not phonetic either in American or British english, so your argument is just a testament to your stupidity. And, just as telling, you quoted a bunch of words that are pronounced the same in American english as they are in British, except in the vernacular- which also exists in certain parts of England, so that's just as meaningless.
@meelash1 The Oxford English dictionary says that there is only one way to pronounce the word "solder". I have lived in L.A. and New York and England my whole life and I have never ever, ever heard anyone pronounce it "sodder". The Oxford English dictionary says you're wrong, everyone I've met contradicts you and at the same time the grammatical errors in your replies tell me you are less than well educated.You pronounce the word any way you please, it's not me that that will sound stupid.
@meelash1 Like all children, you must have the last word, and like all adults I will let you. Please learn to speak English though, we are only lending you our language, the least you can do is look after it.
@hmpeter Actually, he is the one who brought and stood by the accusation that the silent "l" is incorrect and not the other way around. And this is not a reply to him, so it doesn't count for that nonsense "last word" business he was talking about, either.
I just wanted to inform you. English is not my first language, so i am sorry if you feel attacked or something, i did not intend to. And of course i appreciate your reply and do not care if someone else likes it or not.
@hmpeter / meelas1 I think what both of you failed to appreciate, was that the "correct" way of pronouncing it is a matter of perspective. If you went to Russia, Scotland, Australia (Ostraaahlya, hahaha...take that ozzies) and you came from a different country, who in fact would be the odd one out? You or them? (Ozzies are odd, haha!)
I understand the point of this video is to use conventional tools, but that big blunt high power iron with a worn out tip pretty much guarantees the problems you were having with globbing. A smaller and more precise (yet still very conventional) iron can be had for $10 to solve this problem.
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fantastic now you have boiled all the flux off the solder pissing around with it for so long and they are all going to be dry brittle joints not to mention that you have probably destroyed the component by over heating it.
use a bit of no-clean flux and use the drag technique, as long as you only apply the amount of solder you need the flux should prevent bridges.
and no wonder your making a mess you couldn't pick your ars with that chunky tip get a pointed tip on that iron.
Well, probably not the best way to solder. Using a hoof tip and the drag soldering technique would make short work of this. And yes, some flux is definitely needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your soldering is crap. It looks like you are soldering with a horse shoe. Use the correct instrument for the job. USE FLUX. You shouldn't need to use braid like this.
By applying excess heat as you did, I'd be surprised if you didn't damage that sm component.
If he didn't damage the component he was lucky. The iron should only touch the leg momentarily and you should have no solder in your hand at that stage.
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@McGuywer , what happens if you don't use flux? Im trying to solder back a wire from a guitar pickup back to the top of the surface of the tone knob. If your'e trying to solder a tip of wire to a flat surface, do you heat the wire, or the flat surface before applying the solder, or what?
First, rub to shiny the area you want to solder the wire to. Then apply some liquid or greasy flux to cover that area (I use plumbing grease for area soldering). Next clean and tin the tip (use chisel tip). Heat the surface and apply solder with the other hand. As soon as the solder melts, slide the tip back and forth onto that area to see if the solder "wets" the area. If so, remove the iron. This whole thing should last no more than about 2-5 sec.
To answer the question why use flux. Firs of all, flux is keeping oxygen outside while heating the metal so in won't instantly oxidate (solder doesn't stick to oxide). It also enhances the wetting action of the solder (thins the solder).
It's easy to solder chips PROPERLY, you just need a magnification lamp....since i got mine $89 and huge, i'm soldering stuff i never thought i would and i dont even have a wick for if i make a mistake!
There is a thing called flux, you know. It makes any soldering job so much easier and cleaner. And you get good, strong joints. The flux that's already in the core of soldering wire just won't do the job.
this is very easy job i work in taiwan on the same field...it was very fun and i learn a lot of things with regard of electronics...i work in DLINK CORPORATION IN TAIWAN FOR a long years.....
If you want to use normal iron and solder. Best thing is to tack few legs on the pads first.
Tilt the board vertical, apply some flux if you have some. Otherwise just solder all the legs together and at the same time moving the iron tip downward. This should drag the excess solder downward. You may have to redo the last 2 bottom pins. The excess solder may drip so make sure it doesnt hit any other component and cause problem. You can cover them with masking tape.
Ugliest soldering ever seen! Too big iron, chip overheated, big mess around, ...and that shaky camera. Please do not post more of that kind videos dude.
Never do this, the connections you gain by exploiting surface tension are not optimal. Always use hot air, never use a normal soldering iron... Use paste and you'll be able to get optimal solder joints with no errors and without compromising the hardware during the process.
Don't come to me saying you can't afford the hot air pistol because you can easily make one yourself. So GTFO.
soldering SMD is perfectly fine useing a soldering iron (if your useing the correct soldering tips) Its just much more time consumeing. However the guy in this video apprently is not makeing use of flux or the correct solder tip
you really need to use some kind of heat sink on that chip because exposing it to that much heat for an extended period may overheat the semiconductor.
Whats with the huge soldering tip? I'd have used a thinner longer tip for that job. Not only does such a big tip cause the blobs you talk about but it also could overheat the pads underneath the pins and ruin the board...not good!
Yea, Pretty much how I do it, except that I have done 100 pin packages with much fine pitch leads, Instead of making a big blob of solder (really to much heat for the device) I just align the chip by tacking down the corners like shown, Then I do this, I take the solder wick, and put a little solder on it, and place it on the leads and heat it to melt the solder, the pull it away the direction the leads go. You will have to keep adding solder to the wick but it works like a champ, try it out!
He makes it clear at the beginning of the video that this is trick is when using only a conventional iron, The kind the average person may have. So quit bashing and let the once in a blue moon solderers have their shortcut.
2. The basic process (not the specific, so-called 'rolling' technique——I mean just the process of applying the solder) seems no different from how we raw beginners would just guess our way through——just use your 'standard' old iron/club, and try to be careful! :|
3. WHY does this guy call solder 'sodder'?? I had to replay it just to be sure.. wtf!
First of all this will keep the component under a lot of heat, with is very bad, second the Rolling technique of the solder damage the board and the pins, third at the end you should not get solder elevations on top of the pins.Only good for begginers.
I hope that we will all keep in mind that skill development is a process. We all start at a basic level and work to intermediate and advanced SMT levels. If this technician would have received professional training from a rework specialist, I beleive the techiniques used and final quality of this SOIC 28 pin would be quite different. One does the best with the knowledge and experience that one has. Continuous improvement.
dude that soldering iron tip is WAY too big. And the part when you pull a load of solder across ass the chip terminals is just really really dumb. you just make a huge mess, and risk connecting a few chip terminals that should not be connected at all, and blow the chip. get a smaller iron and be more careful.
Well that's an imaginative way to do it. But with the increased temperature of lead-free solders nowadays one really wants to minimise the time that any pins are at molten solder temperature. Perhaps this technique might have worked with old tin/lead solder, but the surface tension of modern leadless solder is different too and it has caused me problems.
I am speechless. This instruction video is so whacked. You should pull this video out of Youtube, you're teaching people wrong information. I am not even IPC trained or certified, and can do a cleaner and better job than that. You need to use the right tools and techniques. .... PS: Your chip is fried.
i think the ciruit will change if the pins come in contact with each other. the soldering gun tip is too big. u should get a solder gun that have removable tips inorder to deal with light solderin
Bad method, wrong tools, terrible finish. Good credit for using a standard soldering tool, which is very unproper tool for SMT, but that's all I can say about that. Don't tell people how to do it with the wrong tools. Tell them what they should get to have the job done and no harm to the board or to ICs.
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VitalElectrocomp 5 days ago
@RetroPCDOS is right definitely a video on how not to solder.
Io0Raziel0oI 2 weeks ago
Buy a new iron with different tips (flat, pencil & chisel) add flux liquid is good paste is better for a noob like you cause I just watched an IC being tortured.
Io0Raziel0oI 2 weeks ago
Do you work for Sony? No wonder their TVs are crap!
purge98 2 months ago
That is the worst soldering I've seen in my live, seriously. Yet this guy though it was a good idea to make a video of it and show the whole world.
xng14 2 months ago
lmao im 13 and i can solder better
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This is how not to solder, for one you need a flat tip works best and you solder away from the chip package at the edge quickly, letting solder flow even on the pin, that why you need a flat tip. I never bridged a connection yet and looks like it was done by machine. Yes you do want to use flux, but not to much.
RetroPCDOS 3 months ago
hahaha mi lither brother soldering better
Thor312full 3 months ago
This is a joke right??
Azion111 4 months ago
YOU DONT HAVE ANY SOLDERING SKILLS USE FLUX FLUX FLUUX
TheJennetteFan 4 months ago
Flux maybe
kretskortet 4 months ago
? lol wtf is this :S
munkeeblue 6 months ago
even my blind granny could solder properly and wont forget to put flux on it before doing it and make me cookies the same time.
FrapsYou 7 months ago
i clickt like because i laugh't
MrJANTJE123 8 months ago
the bigger the blob, the better the job...LOL
n6vmo 8 months ago 2
geeeez nice job: 190.000 people has now seen how NOT to solder.
timbobel 8 months ago 6
IDIOT!
MicrochipsTuning 8 months ago
I'm sorry but that is NOT how you solder SMD components. As others have mentioned flux is a MUST here. Also by the time you've finished with that massive iron tip there's a possibility that the poor chip could have suffered due to thermal stress.
Even if one can't drag solder properly with a larger chisel tip, a smaller 1mm sized chisel tip would do fine for soldering this components pins separately.
orbiter8 10 months ago
I'm sorry, I was looking for how to surface mount; I seem to have found a traditional soldering video.
intboom 10 months ago
This has to be a joke video. The guy has NO IDEA what he is doing! Obviously never heard of drag soldering.
assmunch1 11 months ago
Yipe!"
Afrocanuk 11 months ago
Use flux and a small flat tip, you will less likely bridge a connection and never leave the iron on a pin for that long, you will damage the IC.
RetroPCDOS 1 year ago
orr you could tin the leads and pads and use minimal solder to not make it look like ass
boywithnoarms 1 year ago 2
god ur a messy soldier
qin02 1 year ago
el video deberia llamarse: "como joder un IC por no usar flux"
eleducadito 1 year ago
Use a chisel tip for something like this and just slide from end to end and it's done.
1dosucol1 1 year ago
why all the "how to soldier ..." videos show how to burn a perfectly good part?
budsteppah 1 year ago
@budsteppah no only this one
MrJANTJE123 1 year ago
@MrJANTJE123 I guess you haven't watched any of the Expert Village's videos about soldering... lmfao
budsteppah 1 year ago
@budsteppah do'h forgat those but i never seen them soldering smd stuff but at some point's u are richt
MrJANTJE123 1 year ago
@budsteppah oh and not all the video's have that
MrJANTJE123 1 year ago
did they already removed it, ah shit I guess not
MrJANTJE123 1 year ago
your god if it works after that
MrJANTJE123 1 year ago
@MrJANTJE123 also REALLY REALLY REALLY lucky
ekkrir 1 year ago
@ekkrir true
MrJANTJE123 1 year ago
This video is great.
Just the laugh I needed.
You need to post a cutting torch video....
a3dfxnut 1 year ago
HACK
izzygodenov 1 year ago
omg!! You need flux!!! When flux is not used you get cracked joints. I know from experience
longbeach225 1 year ago
horrible
vadim765 1 year ago
oh god.....
he doesn't know how to solder !!!
johnybrown1995 1 year ago 3
please youtube remove this vid!!
MrJANTJE123 1 year ago 12
Where is the solder flux mate? Go to ebay, search for Solder Flux or Solder paste, and next time apply it. It makes the job clean and shiny....
ALSO, Using Solder-Wick is a risky tactic, you can easily lift pads....
CDMCSD2 1 year ago
that chip is compeltely dead by now. And arent those mp3 decoders 5 or 6 quid a pop ?
robotwarsaintdead 1 year ago
WTF weird technique.....
CeBitsMobile 1 year ago 2
here, please, for God's sake follow this video: watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY
Everyone like this comment so it stays on top and noone ruins their expensive electronics by following this joker's video....
meelash1 1 year ago
roast beef...
cyberdemos 1 year ago
Sodder? Why the hell is everyone saying "sodder"? SOL-DER for god's sake, the word is SOL-DER! Why is no-one pronouncing the "L"? Soddering is a completely different act altogether and I wouldn't recommend doing it with a hot iron.
kaferere 1 year ago
@kaferere the "L" is silent you dum-Bass. There's this thing called a dictionary....
meelash1 1 year ago
@meelash1 The "L" is not silent you idiot, it never has been, never will be. Try an English dictionary instead of your Disneyland pop-up version with pictures. Sodder! LOL! I'm intrigued, what exactly is a dum-Bass? Is it a faulty sub-woofer? LOL! Look at it this way, I'm educating you for free and you didn't even have to leave your trailer! LOL
kaferere 1 year ago
@kaferere dear god, you are making yourself look stupider and stupider. For starters please at least ACTUALLY LOOK UP THE WORD BEFORE REPLYING. Are you retarded, or just stupid and really, really overconfidant? This is the phonetic spelling of the word solder from the New Oxford American Dictionary: ˈsädər. Since I'm guessing you don't have enough schooling to be able to read a phonetic spelling, here is the audio from the american heritage: img[dot]tfd[dot]com/hm/mp3/S0545400[dot]mp3
meelash1 1 year ago
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@kaferere And since you are clearly too dense to catch on, "dum-Bass" was obviously a joke, since the "B" in dumbass is also silent like the "L" in solder.
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@meelash1 I think you'll find that the problem here is yet another English word that americans find too difficult to pronounce, so they add their pronunciation to their own pop up dictionary and try to convince the rest of the world..ie. "Prolly". ."Prezidint" "Murka" "Terrrst" "Worya" (warrior) Tell me, is the "L" in "soldier" also silent? Is this why murkins never say it but use "worya" instead? How ironic, (iyonic) BTW I'm not your "confidant" Did you mean "confident"? It's "too" BTW.
kaferere 1 year ago
@kaferere Dude, english spelling is not phonetic either in American or British english, so your argument is just a testament to your stupidity. And, just as telling, you quoted a bunch of words that are pronounced the same in American english as they are in British, except in the vernacular- which also exists in certain parts of England, so that's just as meaningless.
meelash1 1 year ago
@meelash1 The Oxford English dictionary says that there is only one way to pronounce the word "solder". I have lived in L.A. and New York and England my whole life and I have never ever, ever heard anyone pronounce it "sodder". The Oxford English dictionary says you're wrong, everyone I've met contradicts you and at the same time the grammatical errors in your replies tell me you are less than well educated.You pronounce the word any way you please, it's not me that that will sound stupid.
kaferere 1 year ago
@kaferere "it's not me that that will sound stupid"
Too late.
meelash1 1 year ago
@meelash1 Like all children, you must have the last word, and like all adults I will let you. Please learn to speak English though, we are only lending you our language, the least you can do is look after it.
kaferere 1 year ago
@meelash1
You are wrong, both pronunciations are correct. Look at merriam-webster[dot] com/dictionary/solder 'Pronunciation: British also ˈsäl-dər, ˈsōl-\ '
hmpeter 1 year ago
@hmpeter Actually, he is the one who brought and stood by the accusation that the silent "l" is incorrect and not the other way around. And this is not a reply to him, so it doesn't count for that nonsense "last word" business he was talking about, either.
nah nah
meelash1 1 year ago
@meelash1
Hey, keep calm.
I just wanted to inform you. English is not my first language, so i am sorry if you feel attacked or something, i did not intend to. And of course i appreciate your reply and do not care if someone else likes it or not.
hmpeter 1 year ago
@hmpeter / meelas1 I think what both of you failed to appreciate, was that the "correct" way of pronouncing it is a matter of perspective. If you went to Russia, Scotland, Australia (Ostraaahlya, hahaha...take that ozzies) and you came from a different country, who in fact would be the odd one out? You or them? (Ozzies are odd, haha!)
5up3rk1w1 1 year ago
First: You can't use the "technique" on a milled circuit board.
Second: If you have a circiut board like the one shown in the video, use flux and a mini-wave solder tip
Kosekans 1 year ago
This is way not how to do this. There are several videos out by people who do a much better job than this.
Galfonz 1 year ago 3
I understand the point of this video is to use conventional tools, but that big blunt high power iron with a worn out tip pretty much guarantees the problems you were having with globbing. A smaller and more precise (yet still very conventional) iron can be had for $10 to solve this problem.
tuxpuppy 1 year ago
WTF? Guess this should be called MakeAMess Magazine.
rhblakeman 1 year ago 3
damn... that's some bad soldering right here
lathspell85 1 year ago 4
you fail at soldering
jordandemersjordan 1 year ago 4
I saw other video using drag trechnique. I think this is not the proper way to do it.
tangnatalaga 1 year ago
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rafaslim 1 year ago
Fail
invis648 1 year ago
What a mess....pmsl
cane4real 1 year ago
...if you want use an arc welder...
Tatopower77 1 year ago 3
@Tatopower77 , rofl!!
DH4Hobbies 1 year ago
@Tatopower77 Go ahead ^_^
Nanovirus5995 1 year ago
facepalm
Monger4142 1 year ago
WRONG! LOL
vicioushaxxx 1 year ago
you have to call your video how to toast a chip!!! an yes use FLUX!
MrJANTJE123 1 year ago
This video made me cry.
Geddiz 1 year ago 3
@Geddiz me not but it is true
MrJANTJE123 1 year ago
man....you have no idea what you are doing.....
MicrochipsTuning 1 year ago
use a smaller, tip, clean ur tip, use flux
firefox22223 1 year ago 4
by the time hees even half way done that shits gonna be roasted lol
mace386 1 year ago
Awful job.
guzguz21 1 year ago
wtf learn how to solder dude !!
soadme 1 year ago 2
lmao , this is hilarious.
beavisrules 1 year ago
fantastic now you have boiled all the flux off the solder pissing around with it for so long and they are all going to be dry brittle joints not to mention that you have probably destroyed the component by over heating it.
use a bit of no-clean flux and use the drag technique, as long as you only apply the amount of solder you need the flux should prevent bridges.
and no wonder your making a mess you couldn't pick your ars with that chunky tip get a pointed tip on that iron.
just saying!!!
viperfrank 1 year ago
Epic fail
Lokivoid 1 year ago
Well, probably not the best way to solder. Using a hoof tip and the drag soldering technique would make short work of this. And yes, some flux is definitely needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
coolboarder44 1 year ago
How do you deal with the solder joints connecting when they are so close apart?
AppleRepairNewOrlean 1 year ago
Is this a joke ? This way you can damage your chip. Am I wrog ?
CyberHead32 1 year ago 2
You've got a cold joints, use flux. I bet the heels of the pins are not soldered correctly too. Definitely no a long lasting solder job.
tarmogr 1 year ago
Your soldering is crap. It looks like you are soldering with a horse shoe. Use the correct instrument for the job. USE FLUX. You shouldn't need to use braid like this.
By applying excess heat as you did, I'd be surprised if you didn't damage that sm component.
fronkenpoop 2 years ago 15
This Video is Wrong.
If your soldering looks like this get lessons.
If he didn't damage the component he was lucky. The iron should only touch the leg momentarily and you should have no solder in your hand at that stage.
Preparation.
Use Flux.
VIPX1 2 years ago 8
OMG what is this bloke doing, what an idiot. How has he got the nerve to post this video.
What an amatuer i suprised he has got a blow lamp out LOL.
For starters he is using the wrong type of tip/iron
God help him on something that is really fine pitch.
Ha ha using wick to clean to clean the mess up
USE flux IDIOT
v6dlc 2 years ago
Use flux
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McGuywer 2 years ago 101
@McGuywer , what happens if you don't use flux? Im trying to solder back a wire from a guitar pickup back to the top of the surface of the tone knob. If your'e trying to solder a tip of wire to a flat surface, do you heat the wire, or the flat surface before applying the solder, or what?
ac23AQ 2 years ago
First, rub to shiny the area you want to solder the wire to. Then apply some liquid or greasy flux to cover that area (I use plumbing grease for area soldering). Next clean and tin the tip (use chisel tip). Heat the surface and apply solder with the other hand. As soon as the solder melts, slide the tip back and forth onto that area to see if the solder "wets" the area. If so, remove the iron. This whole thing should last no more than about 2-5 sec.
McGuywer 2 years ago
This is called "tinning the surface". Next, tin the wire and solder the wire to that surface.
You can't solder aluminium.
Powerful irons are preferred, don't use anything below 30W.
Finally, clean the area from flux, it may get corrosive over time.
McGuywer 2 years ago
To answer the question why use flux. Firs of all, flux is keeping oxygen outside while heating the metal so in won't instantly oxidate (solder doesn't stick to oxide). It also enhances the wetting action of the solder (thins the solder).
McGuywer 2 years ago 2
Cool thanks!
ac23AQ 2 years ago
@McGuywer Just wanted to say, you might want to mention to use some flux.. :)
jabird73 1 year ago
@McGuywer Holy cow, that guy doesn't have a clue how to solder.
FearTriX 1 year ago
It's easy to solder chips PROPERLY, you just need a magnification lamp....since i got mine $89 and huge, i'm soldering stuff i never thought i would and i dont even have a wick for if i make a mistake!
ObservationSociety 2 years ago
There is a thing called flux, you know. It makes any soldering job so much easier and cleaner. And you get good, strong joints. The flux that's already in the core of soldering wire just won't do the job.
Also... You might want to use a pointier tip.
davidjereb 2 years ago 2
this is very easy job i work in taiwan on the same field...it was very fun and i learn a lot of things with regard of electronics...i work in DLINK CORPORATION IN TAIWAN FOR a long years.....
chagneiy 2 years ago
it is looks untidy dude
lapulapu12345 2 years ago 2
Hmmn. Too sloppy, start over again!
Karvenate 2 years ago 3
It looks sloppy. Sorry!
cietod88 2 years ago 4
LOL this is terrible.
If you want to use normal iron and solder. Best thing is to tack few legs on the pads first.
Tilt the board vertical, apply some flux if you have some. Otherwise just solder all the legs together and at the same time moving the iron tip downward. This should drag the excess solder downward. You may have to redo the last 2 bottom pins. The excess solder may drip so make sure it doesnt hit any other component and cause problem. You can cover them with masking tape.
cjjs0202 2 years ago 4
by the time you are done the chip is roasted....
jaymoh2 2 years ago 49
lol, my first thought
jfl187 2 years ago 2
@jaymoh2 ...and ready to eat. Crunchy :D
mcliars 1 year ago
..metodo non proprio pulito... con risulati abbastanza scadenti!
Secons60 2 years ago
And... that was... simply SOIC? Try to solder TQFP with your technique... fail guaranteed
Manekinen 2 years ago
Ugliest soldering ever seen! Too big iron, chip overheated, big mess around, ...and that shaky camera. Please do not post more of that kind videos dude.
Manekinen 2 years ago
were its the flux dude? Bleah!
dumyyyyyy 2 years ago 2
thumbs down
ClaudioArrau 2 years ago
Bleeee
hummelmarek 2 years ago
dude --
way too much heat on those pins.
xraymond10 2 years ago 2
Never do this, the connections you gain by exploiting surface tension are not optimal. Always use hot air, never use a normal soldering iron... Use paste and you'll be able to get optimal solder joints with no errors and without compromising the hardware during the process.
Don't come to me saying you can't afford the hot air pistol because you can easily make one yourself. So GTFO.
cafeconpizza 2 years ago
soldering SMD is perfectly fine useing a soldering iron (if your useing the correct soldering tips) Its just much more time consumeing. However the guy in this video apprently is not makeing use of flux or the correct solder tip
Lokivoid 2 years ago 2
you really need to use some kind of heat sink on that chip because exposing it to that much heat for an extended period may overheat the semiconductor.
LucRavenwing 2 years ago 3
Whats with the huge soldering tip? I'd have used a thinner longer tip for that job. Not only does such a big tip cause the blobs you talk about but it also could overheat the pads underneath the pins and ruin the board...not good!
dbart27 2 years ago
Your job is done if you didn't cook the poor little chip trying to get the shorts out of it.
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skierplaterandy 2 years ago
I would have used liquid flux for that. It just makes it so much easier to solder.
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zolax 2 years ago
This is terrible...
nikwalnikwal 3 years ago 4
Yea, Pretty much how I do it, except that I have done 100 pin packages with much fine pitch leads, Instead of making a big blob of solder (really to much heat for the device) I just align the chip by tacking down the corners like shown, Then I do this, I take the solder wick, and put a little solder on it, and place it on the leads and heat it to melt the solder, the pull it away the direction the leads go. You will have to keep adding solder to the wick but it works like a champ, try it out!
evilmachinist 3 years ago
sodder sucker!!!
namzer0 3 years ago 2
He makes it clear at the beginning of the video that this is trick is when using only a conventional iron, The kind the average person may have. So quit bashing and let the once in a blue moon solderers have their shortcut.
Core5 3 years ago 3
O.o dude learn to use flux and for the love of god never use that much solder on IC's or MPU's again.
Lokivoid 3 years ago 3
CRAP.... looks like shit.
merasanam 3 years ago 6
1. HEAT!——it's a chip!
2. The basic process (not the specific, so-called 'rolling' technique——I mean just the process of applying the solder) seems no different from how we raw beginners would just guess our way through——just use your 'standard' old iron/club, and try to be careful! :|
3. WHY does this guy call solder 'sodder'?? I had to replay it just to be sure.. wtf!
aboctok 3 years ago
3. Yanks pronounce soLder as sodder for some insane reason.
Smithy318i 3 years ago
yes, yes we do, damn limey
icegryphon 2 years ago 3
First of all this will keep the component under a lot of heat, with is very bad, second the Rolling technique of the solder damage the board and the pins, third at the end you should not get solder elevations on top of the pins.Only good for begginers.
thiagoulhoamorais 3 years ago
This is NOT the way to solder
binarymilk 3 years ago 2
try that with flux and it'll get close to factory line solder joints.
freakman420 3 years ago
What the... what the fuck? That was awful...
SkaOfCA 3 years ago 2
I hope that we will all keep in mind that skill development is a process. We all start at a basic level and work to intermediate and advanced SMT levels. If this technician would have received professional training from a rework specialist, I beleive the techiniques used and final quality of this SOIC 28 pin would be quite different. One does the best with the knowledge and experience that one has. Continuous improvement.
John Gammell
Certified IPC Trainer
jkgamm041 3 years ago
Yes but why post it on youtube under the ''how to'' section???
wcs80 3 years ago
dude that soldering iron tip is WAY too big. And the part when you pull a load of solder across ass the chip terminals is just really really dumb. you just make a huge mess, and risk connecting a few chip terminals that should not be connected at all, and blow the chip. get a smaller iron and be more careful.
okidot 3 years ago
Well that's an imaginative way to do it. But with the increased temperature of lead-free solders nowadays one really wants to minimise the time that any pins are at molten solder temperature. Perhaps this technique might have worked with old tin/lead solder, but the surface tension of modern leadless solder is different too and it has caused me problems.
latribe 3 years ago
¬¬!... is sad...very sad...never do this
ivanmzr 3 years ago
Is this a joke? Very bad way to work with eproms!!
The solder iron is not even the correct size for this work!
wcs80 3 years ago 2
omg ... don't try this at home :-)) You definitely kill the IC with that technique.
Kosekans 3 years ago
yep your right about that, and that soldering iron is to large and has to many watts for this fragile application
ozzinc 3 years ago
you fried the chip!!!!
n7275 3 years ago
You should use a pro soldering iron ,and never blob solder ,for small stuff use a fine point iron,and if you bridge then use the whick.
jenko701 3 years ago
LOL and that is how NOT to solder a component.
Christ people should learn proper technique before trying to teach others.
Vortigon 3 years ago 4
Oh dear...
I have basic soldering skills, but THAT is just misleading.
Doppelgangergang 3 years ago
20 years of being an electronics technician, I've never been taught "the bigger the blob, the better the job". You're so right,
54spiritedwill54, when pins come in contact with each other something's bound to go wrong.
buckeyepine 3 years ago
Terrible! Learn to solder before you teach people.
MusicToronto 3 years ago
I am speechless. This instruction video is so whacked. You should pull this video out of Youtube, you're teaching people wrong information. I am not even IPC trained or certified, and can do a cleaner and better job than that. You need to use the right tools and techniques. .... PS: Your chip is fried.
fivefishdiy 3 years ago
O Damn...I Dont Hear Any Sound From My MP3 After I Solder The Chip...What Happen...Can Anyone Tell Me about it?
LorDmiLuK 3 years ago 3
my god you just fried that chip
ResistCircuitResist 3 years ago
i think the ciruit will change if the pins come in contact with each other. the soldering gun tip is too big. u should get a solder gun that have removable tips inorder to deal with light solderin
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
Esse é o pior método de soldar um c.i smd
binalho 3 years ago
this guy wouldnt get a job at my place
TianCollett79 3 years ago
I agree... This would get my fired at my work if the end product looked like that.
defsyfe 3 years ago 4
Bad method, wrong tools, terrible finish. Good credit for using a standard soldering tool, which is very unproper tool for SMT, but that's all I can say about that. Don't tell people how to do it with the wrong tools. Tell them what they should get to have the job done and no harm to the board or to ICs.
yanava 3 years ago
You're basically just lucky that you didn't fry your IC by heating it for so long time.
ventiil 3 years ago 2
This video is should be properly titled. "How not to Solder Surface Mount".
Just bad. 1206, dip, soic, these need no video instructions for shits sake. Make videos fro SSOP and QFN. Now thats a true "How to Solder" tutorial.
Anothercoilgun 3 years ago 3
lol Soddering?!?! its SoL-der-ing
jiggawoo 3 years ago 2
not he is saying it right
davidbball13 3 years ago
saying it right in america, in the rest of the world is pronounce SOL-DER.
i dont understand why you guys leave U'S out of words either.
jiggawoo 3 years ago 2