@DoubleOvertime17 he has played for a bit better team, i think thats the reason he has like 1 more career points then tavares, i still belive tavares is the better player but he never talks to the media and doesn't get much attention
@Tanktation Crosby is 5'11, 200 lbs, Duchene is 5'11, 200 lbs, Crosby is known to have a low center of gravity and hard to knock off the puck along the boards and is speedy just like Duchene.
not nearly the same pedigree, I think Duchene will be up there with Getzlaf, Kane, Kopitar, Backstrom, ranging anywhere from top 15, to top 5 forward in the NHL.
im an islander fan and i am a fan of matt duchene, when i first saw him play at the begining of his last season in the ohl i said to my say i want the islanders to take this guy, of course i wasnt expecting to get the first overall pick in the beginning of november but matt duchene will be an elite player in this league for many years and may even hit the 50 goal mark a few times
thats kind of obvious now but how could you have figured that out based on the way they both played in juniors. i think tavares will be better eventually though.
You're right, at the time they wouldn't have known better because after all Tavares was ranked 1st going into the draft, So I'm agreeing with you. But I just really like this kid, not only as a player but he's a classy professional off the ice.
I'm an Avs fan, but besides that I'm a hockey fan. No way do the islanders pick anyone other than Tavares at one last year, Tavares was leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else throughout his junior career. Would you pass on a guy who broke Gretzky's scoring record (70) in a season, and Lee's career mark of 214? I love Matt, and he had a great junior career with the Battalion, but to pick anyone else besides JT at one would be team suicide, especially for a franchise like the Islanders.
Who cares who proects Paajravi to be Forsberg, he won't be. He's not as tough as Forsberg, you touch this kid, and his head goes awry. I've seen him play so many times, and he is not NHL material, wait and see. He's got crazy skills, but unless he can tough up, he will not last.
I dont't mean in the sense that he was a band aid, I mean that he's play in the corners, and rub you off the puck. He was the guy who truly brought the term "power forward" into the game, meaning you play with a physical edge. Lindros was the one who first brought it around, but that only lasted for a few years, Peter the great at least had sustained years doing it, and now look how many type of players there are like that in the game. You're the fucking idiot for posting that comment.
@CaustoVirale no douchebag your the fucking idiot. any player that can keep playing hockey after 10+ surgeries might seem tough to anyone else. i bet u dont even know anything about hockey shit lips. Forsberg is the man for life and Duchene can be a very good replacement
Forsberg was made of glass, and he never fought. jsut because he kept pushing his career despite the injury, I'll give him that, but Tough? fucking LOL.
@CaustoVirale last time i checked forsberg has career highlights of goals, assists, sweet moves and everything else on a video thats over 17 minutes long. doesnt matter if he didnt fight cuz he can rock the shit out of people. best all around player to play the game dipshit. when ur gonna try and insult someone get the facts straight u clown
your a true dumass, ask anyone who knows hockey he is the best all around player....he got injured from throwing his body around the way he did.....he was a fuckin bull
@CaustoVirale Dude the last player to have a playing ability even close to Forseberg, is Datsyuk. You obviously didn't watch much hockey in the avs early years because the guy played the ice in a way Crosby or Ovechkin never can or will. He wasn't greedy with the puck, he knew how to take the body, and his handling was one of a kind. Him and Sakic made those fucking Sedin Sisters look like they belonged in the minors.
@Blackoutwalkin Peter was good, but number-wise Forsberg was never THAT great of a goal scorer. He never surpassed 30 goals in one season, even though he was tremendous on other parts of the ice, he never was THAT spectacular to gain the reputation he has.
Ovechkin has 4 fifty goal seasons. He has 301 goals in 475 games. Peter only had 249 goals in 708 games.
If you were really a big enough fan of Foppa, you would at least know how to spell his name right. It's Forsberg, not "Forseberg".
@ebtricks Never said anything about his goal scoring ability did I? There's a reason Forsberg is considered one of the best all around players, he gave the TEAM an ability to score. I'm sorry but apparently Ovi's goal scoring alone doesn't win Stanley cups. Oh and if you wanna get into numbers, Forsberg accumulated 116 points in the Avs franchise debut. A feat Mr. Ovechkin has yet to accomplish.
@Blackoutwalkin 65 Goals, 47 assists, and 112 points outweigh 30 goals, 86 assists, and 116 points in any situation. A goal is much harder to receive than an assist, it's a simple fact of the game. Ovechkin more than doubled his goal count. Besides, the day that Ovechkin has five 20+ goal scorers and Joe Sakic playing with him, a player who ISN'T overrated, then that's the day that they'll share equal ground.
Who's the second best Cap? Backstrom? Semin? That's why he doesn't have a cup.
@ebtricks Let's just put it this way. Forsberg=2, Ovi=0. Call Peter overrated all you want man, every real Avs fan on the planet knows and understands why his name is worth mentioning. Who do you think was setting up all those goals for Sakic? Ovi's a good player, but he's just proof that numbers alone don't win championships. If you think statistics are all that matter, you obviously spend too much time on wikipedia and not enough time actually watching hockey.
@Blackoutwalkin I am an Avs fan, and I at least understand the difference between individual and team statistics. The Stanley Cup is never won by one man, and Forsberg owes more credit to Sakic and Roy for his rings than himself. He wasn't even playing for all the playoffs in 2001.
Numbers do win championships when you have them spread evenly across the team with a couple of superstars and a great goalie. Peter had that luxury, Alex doesn't. You obviously haven't seen either play that much.
@ebtricks I have actually and there's no excuse for Ovechkin having a bad team. The Caps are a solid offensive force, but their fall back is defensively. And don't make it sound like Forsberg was the only guy on the planet who essentially caught a big break because he was part of a good line-up. You make it look like he was some shitty player who caught it big by being part of a good line-up. Don't criticize a player simply because they aren't a goal scorer.
@Blackoutwalkin He has an excellent team, just not one capable (as of late) at winning the Cup. Forsberg has always played for an excellent Avalanche team, aside from his 13 comeback games. He wasn't shitty, but he wasn't THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL-TIME. Joe Sakic was undoubtedly better as not only a player but as a leader, and the reason why I'm arguing for Ovechkin is because he's better in terms of skill. Skating, shooting, stick-handling, and even intangibles are on Ovechkin's side.
@ebtricks agreed man, any real hockey fan would know a goal is harder to come by than an assist. The fact you can dump the puck down the ice and your team can pick it up and flutter a wrist shot on net and score and get a point for that is ridiculous.. if it's a breakaway pass, or great set up then yeah, I would say goals and assists are about the same, but the truth is most assists come from fluke plays.
what are you talking about... if you had understood what i was talking about you would know that it is a jynx too touch the stanley cup before winning it lol idiot and i was emplying that the avs are jynx...it was a joke...figure it out pal.
what? no the avs got craig anderson? oh no please no. he is horrible. i really hope the avs put duchen up at least on the 4th line if not the 3rd. i want to see him in action for my team!
He's not a grinder so he'll most likely be C up on the 2nd with Wolski moving back to LW. And Craig Anderson is good, where'd you see that he's terrible?
You're an idiot. Anderson sucks. Clearly you don't even know hockey. Even before he came to Colorado he had decent numbers in Florida backing up Vokoun, and had the second most shutouts in the NHL last year I think, or close to. He's just showing everyone he can do it now on a full time basis, and people notice now because he's starting.
The Avalanche will be a great team in a few years,we got Stastny,Svatos,Duchene,Wolski and Liles...if Colorado could get a great goaltender and 1 or 2 good forwards they will make the playoffs next season:)But i miss the good old days when we had Forsberg,Sakic,Blake and Roy:)
yeah. It going to suck playing with a guy who is leader in points for active players. Sucks playing a guy with rookie records. Suck playing with 3 guys over 300 goals. One over 600. Suck playing with a player who almost beat ovechkin for rookie of the year if he didnt miss the last 20 games he would have. (he had 30 goals in 59 games.) Sucks playing with a guy who has a record for having 1.59 points in every game. Sucks to play on a team who has record for most consecutive division titles. idiot
No i was ready someone elses comment about duchene is playing for a poor team now. I told him that Duchene is going to be playing with a goal scorers team. Because we have sakic,stastny, Hejduk,Svatos,Smyth,wolski,and stewart. thats a good thing.
wow your the stupidest fuck ever the avs are a great team they are the only team to ever win the stanley cup in teir first season along with many onther records no team has beaten $20 says your a red wings fan huh douchebag?
they still would have one it if they had stayed as the nordique's. It isn't like a change of Name and location won them the cup, the team was almost set at the time it moved.
No, they actually wouldn't have. You're forgetting "Le Trade" The Canadiens would never have traded Roy to a team in their division Especially to the Nordiques.
Probably not. Think about it. If they stay in Quebec, does Montreal trade him there? Not a chance in hell they trade him across province to their rival, they deal him somewhere else. Jocelyn Thibault(if he does'nt get traded), Garth Snow(if he stays, does'nt go to the Flyers) or Stephane Fiset(if Snow left, and he was signed by Quebec) win them a cup. learn your stuff before you make absurd comments.
celyn Thibault(if he does'nt get traded), Garth Snow(if he stays, does'nt go to the Flyers) or Stephane Fiset(if Snow left, and he was signed by Quebec) win them a cup. learn your stuff before you make absurd comments.
@Avalancheforlife1319 they only won in their first season cause they were the nordiques the year before who had tonnes of good young players they just moved. its not like they started from scratch like all the expansion teams
@DallasH717 yeah i know that but they also had to deal with the fact that they were moving across the continent to a place none of them knew anything about. And no one expected too much out of them their first season anyway, they could have gone down in the first round and the fans would still be happy
one of our NHL records is the most consecutive division titles 9 most in the NHL and we have been in the NHL how long 15 years and made the playoffs 13 :D
It looks like the Isles can't go wrong with Duchene, Hedman, or Tavares. Personally, as an Islanders fan, I want them to pick Tavares. I see no need whatsoever for Hedman; he'd be a great defensive asset, but if we have Witt, Streit, Martinek, Sutton, Gervais, Meyer, etc... we're good on defense. Tavares or Duchene. I hope we get Tavares. Plus we've got the 26th overall pick... maybe trade 26th pick and some 2nd rounders to get another high pick?
Witt, Streit, Martinek, Sutton, Gervais and Meyer?? Are you serious? Witt is a big oaf, nearing the end (though, granted, he's still an ok defensemen, but not a #1), Streit is great, that's true, Gervais isn't nearly as good as he was supposed to be, Martinek... lol, Sutton is an oaf like Witt only not as talented and Meyer is a 7th defensemen. You guys need backup everywhere but in nets. Dipietro is the only great player on the team.
I never said they were great. Streit is the only great one out of them. I just believe that they make for a solid defense. We could do better; I would love it if we could sign a top 2 defenseman over the offseason. But drafting Hedman over Tavares or Duchene? The Isles need more offense than Defense. The only good offensive threats they have are Okposo and Bailey, MAYBE Weight. But Okposo and Bailey are young, Weight's old. We need offense. Defense can wait, we need a scorer.
There's no doubt about that. You also need a Tavares to get fans back at the rink. Sorta' like the Pens did with Crosby or the Caps with Ovechkin (and I'm not comparing Tavares to either of them). However, I'm sorry, but Isles have on of the worst defensive units in the league... bottom 5, that's for sure!
Ya, I know. But I'm aiming for Zack Kassian but the organization is looking for Louis Leblanc. And besides, our scout (Trevor Timmins) is terrible at first rounders. Marcel Hossa, Ron Hainsey, Kyle Chipchura, David Fischer, Alexander Perezoghin. He even chose Andrei Kostitsyn before Jeff Carter. So I'd rather we trade our pick for an elite player (and we'd obviously add to our pick) but our GM doesn't seem to think that's a good idea. We'll see tonight, I guess. It'll be an interesting year.
Read you comment. You did say your defensemen were great. You need both defense and offense. look at tampa there team is loaded with offense, but the suck. Bad defense. NY is still going to be a pretty horrible team even with the rookie. I still feel NY will top 5 worst teams next year.
Matt Duchene is an exact replica of when Joe Sakic when Sakic was young, Matt = future franchise player for the avalanche, Joe Sakic's Replacement, Matt can have the same worlds best wrist shot as sakic, play the point on the powerplay, and matt has unbelievable speed, a threat to score shorthanded. if the avs do not select matt duchene i do not know what the F*** is wrong with them. that is unless tampa takes duchene and colorado takes their new rob blake, victor hedman
its going to be either him or tavares to the islanders...tavares will give you 40 goals,duchene will give you a cup...im an isles fan and i want tavares (no offense to duchene who will be great)
I would give the Avs a good 18000 years. Missing a few players put you out? The Wings were missing Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Holmstrom, and Lilja at one point in time and they did fine. Look what they did in the playoffs with a quarter of the team injured. Dont make excuses, the Avs hit heir dead era.
The Avalanche may not win the Cup in two seasons but they should be able to contend. They need a decent goalie. If they can get a good goalie, a healthy Stastny all season, Duchene, and a couple of the good defensemen they have in the system they should be able to contend. They need to get rid of some of the players like Arnason and Hannon that are such a drag on the payroll.
lidstrom,datsyuk, holmstrom. didnt even miss that many games. lidstrom only 2 games in playoffs. holmstrom played 53 games? thats almost more than sakic and forsberg played in the last 2 years combined. we were missing 9 players for the 2008 playoffs. And this year without smyth,sakic,forsberg,stastny,svatos,foote,liles, we almost swept you. if you average games played by our players its about 35 games each and you still couldnt beat us.Your in an easy division.if were dead and you lose to us...
Your team is full of vets so thats a shitty arguement. Wolski, Statsny, Budaj, Svatos, Liles, Guite, Jones are still relativly young. You had Osgood, Hossa, Chelios, Kronwall, Franzen which are still very key players.
perfect example of someone who failed in school spending his life correcting mistakes on youtube comments. i will laugh at you when Tavares will be draft before your crappy hedman
Actually, minus the games against Canda, Hedman beasted that tournament. I watched him play every game, albeit against inferior competition for the most part, but he still dominated. Plus he's looking pretty decent down in TB right now with Ohlund guiding him, he'll do some things down the road for sure.
wtf?? Do you know anything about hockey?? sakic and forsberg is one of the best duo's to ever play hockey. behind the great gretzky and messier. The avs almost swept the wings this year without sakic and forsberg and this is our worst year. It shows how zetterberg and datsyuk are not comparable to sakic and forsberg.
okay yea, without datsyuk Lidstrom & Draper they managed to eliminate Chicago in the playoffs, the Avs without Sakic and Forseburgh finished 27th. And in the past 10 years Datsyuk & Zetterbergh have goten way more chance of winning the cup then the Avalanche
Datsyuk and lidstrom did play in Chicago playoffs. LIdstrom played 3 Datsyuk played 2. And draper sucks defensemen get better stats then he does. Avs without stastny, smyth, svatos,sakic,foot,liles,and forsberg finnished 27th. And beating Chicago is nothing to brag about. The 27th placed avs almost swept the wings is something to talk about.
they werent the best team in the league. San jose and boston played better. And pittsburge won the stanley. We have only missed the playoffs twice...ever. Wings ummm like 30+ times.
77 years not over 100. We are the only team to win a stanley cup the first year after becoming a new club. We have the most consecutive division championships. Record longest sell out streak. You team hasnt had a calder troyphy winner since 1965 or NHL mvp since 94. You team plays for money not for heart.
are you crazy!!? the proof that they dont play for money: Hossa choosed to go to Detroit and make less money then goin to Pittsburgh and make more money
yea but the redwings offered him a 1 year contract, the penguins were offering him a long term contract and at the end of the contract he would of made 50 million $
its bigger for one year, but now that year is over, but if he was with the pens he would have the option to stay and continue make money or eventualy get traded and make as much money
wow your stupid the avs were without sakic forsberg stastny smyth svatos liles foote salei along with other key players thats like the red wings playing without hossa zetterberg datsyuk lidstrom hudler and franzen any team without their top 8+ players would have a shitty season too
@Avalancheforlife1319 exept hossa player one year for detroit ... common if your gonna call someone team stupid insinuate they suck ... get your fuckin facts right ass hole hossa was never a GREAT DETROIT Player HE PLAYED THERE 1 SEASON LOL
Duchene is the best!
relex96 6 months ago
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DoubleOvertime17 7 months ago 3
@DoubleOvertime17 he has played for a bit better team, i think thats the reason he has like 1 more career points then tavares, i still belive tavares is the better player but he never talks to the media and doesn't get much attention
Zaidr0n 6 months ago
@Zaidr0n Yeah i agree.
DoubleOvertime17 6 months ago
@DoubleOvertime17
He has one more point >_> Just a few more goals.
LeafsNation4Ever 5 months ago
@DoubleOvertime17 actually guy tavares has more points.. nice try
tryi2iwin 3 weeks ago
duchene best young player
thepenguinshockey 10 months ago
I would have thought his favorite player would be Joe Sakic.....
mrsexicaliboi 1 year ago
in soviet russia, puck shoots YOU
halloweenfan45 1 year ago
GREAT TALENT...ANY RELATED TO STEVE DUCHENE
josatinho 1 year ago
favorite player sidney cryby ? oh man. i thought i would like him.
Tanktation 1 year ago
@Tanktation Crosby is 5'11, 200 lbs, Duchene is 5'11, 200 lbs, Crosby is known to have a low center of gravity and hard to knock off the puck along the boards and is speedy just like Duchene.
not nearly the same pedigree, I think Duchene will be up there with Getzlaf, Kane, Kopitar, Backstrom, ranging anywhere from top 15, to top 5 forward in the NHL.
evanderlazer 1 year ago
@hockeystars100 Sure.
ebtricks 1 year ago
Isn't it bad luck to touch the cup?
JustinW71 1 year ago
im an islander fan and i am a fan of matt duchene, when i first saw him play at the begining of his last season in the ohl i said to my say i want the islanders to take this guy, of course i wasnt expecting to get the first overall pick in the beginning of november but matt duchene will be an elite player in this league for many years and may even hit the 50 goal mark a few times
TheJoeSShow 1 year ago
hmmm, he touched the cup at 1:19. thats bad luck
xitzgrimx 1 year ago
He's one of my top 5 favourites<3
MMluvz 1 year ago
I'm a Leaf fan, so I'm neutral The ISLANDERS screwed up, should have picked this guy for #1. Duchene= CLASS
hnemers 2 years ago
thats kind of obvious now but how could you have figured that out based on the way they both played in juniors. i think tavares will be better eventually though.
werelosingdaylite23 1 year ago
You're right, at the time they wouldn't have known better because after all Tavares was ranked 1st going into the draft, So I'm agreeing with you. But I just really like this kid, not only as a player but he's a classy professional off the ice.
hnemers 1 year ago
I'm an Avs fan, but besides that I'm a hockey fan. No way do the islanders pick anyone other than Tavares at one last year, Tavares was leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else throughout his junior career. Would you pass on a guy who broke Gretzky's scoring record (70) in a season, and Lee's career mark of 214? I love Matt, and he had a great junior career with the Battalion, but to pick anyone else besides JT at one would be team suicide, especially for a franchise like the Islanders.
aporchmonkey 1 year ago
there goes that...he's never winning a stanley cup he touched it before he won it
autopilotoff3323 2 years ago
CROSBY IS GAYEST PLAYER EVER
peterbilka 2 years ago
Or maybe your he one who is gay. Get a life loser.
FevrGuy 2 years ago
lmao. no.
Paajarvi is purported to be the next Forsberg. he's a big forward who's hard to play against, and was the fastest kid at the draft.
CaustoVirale 2 years ago
lmao. no.
Who cares who proects Paajravi to be Forsberg, he won't be. He's not as tough as Forsberg, you touch this kid, and his head goes awry. I've seen him play so many times, and he is not NHL material, wait and see. He's got crazy skills, but unless he can tough up, he will not last.
aporchmonkey 1 year ago
Tough as forsberg.
are you a fucking idiot? you lost all credibility with that. Forsberg is not tough at all.
CaustoVirale 1 year ago
I dont't mean in the sense that he was a band aid, I mean that he's play in the corners, and rub you off the puck. He was the guy who truly brought the term "power forward" into the game, meaning you play with a physical edge. Lindros was the one who first brought it around, but that only lasted for a few years, Peter the great at least had sustained years doing it, and now look how many type of players there are like that in the game. You're the fucking idiot for posting that comment.
aporchmonkey 1 year ago
@CaustoVirale no douchebag your the fucking idiot. any player that can keep playing hockey after 10+ surgeries might seem tough to anyone else. i bet u dont even know anything about hockey shit lips. Forsberg is the man for life and Duchene can be a very good replacement
michigan9732 1 year ago
@michigan9732
Forsberg was made of glass, and he never fought. jsut because he kept pushing his career despite the injury, I'll give him that, but Tough? fucking LOL.
CaustoVirale 1 year ago
@CaustoVirale last time i checked forsberg has career highlights of goals, assists, sweet moves and everything else on a video thats over 17 minutes long. doesnt matter if he didnt fight cuz he can rock the shit out of people. best all around player to play the game dipshit. when ur gonna try and insult someone get the facts straight u clown
michigan9732 1 year ago
@CaustoVirale thats what i thought. got nothin to say. lets keep it that way
michigan9732 1 year ago
@CaustoVirale
your a true dumass, ask anyone who knows hockey he is the best all around player....he got injured from throwing his body around the way he did.....he was a fuckin bull
BlackonBlackLac 1 year ago
@CaustoVirale Dude the last player to have a playing ability even close to Forseberg, is Datsyuk. You obviously didn't watch much hockey in the avs early years because the guy played the ice in a way Crosby or Ovechkin never can or will. He wasn't greedy with the puck, he knew how to take the body, and his handling was one of a kind. Him and Sakic made those fucking Sedin Sisters look like they belonged in the minors.
Blackoutwalkin 10 months ago
@Blackoutwalkin Peter was good, but number-wise Forsberg was never THAT great of a goal scorer. He never surpassed 30 goals in one season, even though he was tremendous on other parts of the ice, he never was THAT spectacular to gain the reputation he has.
Ovechkin has 4 fifty goal seasons. He has 301 goals in 475 games. Peter only had 249 goals in 708 games.
If you were really a big enough fan of Foppa, you would at least know how to spell his name right. It's Forsberg, not "Forseberg".
ebtricks 8 months ago
@ebtricks Never said anything about his goal scoring ability did I? There's a reason Forsberg is considered one of the best all around players, he gave the TEAM an ability to score. I'm sorry but apparently Ovi's goal scoring alone doesn't win Stanley cups. Oh and if you wanna get into numbers, Forsberg accumulated 116 points in the Avs franchise debut. A feat Mr. Ovechkin has yet to accomplish.
Blackoutwalkin 8 months ago
@Blackoutwalkin 65 Goals, 47 assists, and 112 points outweigh 30 goals, 86 assists, and 116 points in any situation. A goal is much harder to receive than an assist, it's a simple fact of the game. Ovechkin more than doubled his goal count. Besides, the day that Ovechkin has five 20+ goal scorers and Joe Sakic playing with him, a player who ISN'T overrated, then that's the day that they'll share equal ground.
Who's the second best Cap? Backstrom? Semin? That's why he doesn't have a cup.
ebtricks 8 months ago
@ebtricks Let's just put it this way. Forsberg=2, Ovi=0. Call Peter overrated all you want man, every real Avs fan on the planet knows and understands why his name is worth mentioning. Who do you think was setting up all those goals for Sakic? Ovi's a good player, but he's just proof that numbers alone don't win championships. If you think statistics are all that matter, you obviously spend too much time on wikipedia and not enough time actually watching hockey.
Blackoutwalkin 8 months ago
@Blackoutwalkin I am an Avs fan, and I at least understand the difference between individual and team statistics. The Stanley Cup is never won by one man, and Forsberg owes more credit to Sakic and Roy for his rings than himself. He wasn't even playing for all the playoffs in 2001.
Numbers do win championships when you have them spread evenly across the team with a couple of superstars and a great goalie. Peter had that luxury, Alex doesn't. You obviously haven't seen either play that much.
ebtricks 8 months ago
@ebtricks I have actually and there's no excuse for Ovechkin having a bad team. The Caps are a solid offensive force, but their fall back is defensively. And don't make it sound like Forsberg was the only guy on the planet who essentially caught a big break because he was part of a good line-up. You make it look like he was some shitty player who caught it big by being part of a good line-up. Don't criticize a player simply because they aren't a goal scorer.
Blackoutwalkin 8 months ago
@Blackoutwalkin He has an excellent team, just not one capable (as of late) at winning the Cup. Forsberg has always played for an excellent Avalanche team, aside from his 13 comeback games. He wasn't shitty, but he wasn't THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL-TIME. Joe Sakic was undoubtedly better as not only a player but as a leader, and the reason why I'm arguing for Ovechkin is because he's better in terms of skill. Skating, shooting, stick-handling, and even intangibles are on Ovechkin's side.
ebtricks 8 months ago
@ebtricks agreed man, any real hockey fan would know a goal is harder to come by than an assist. The fact you can dump the puck down the ice and your team can pick it up and flutter a wrist shot on net and score and get a point for that is ridiculous.. if it's a breakaway pass, or great set up then yeah, I would say goals and assists are about the same, but the truth is most assists come from fluke plays.
PGAPrankCalls 8 months ago
@PGAPrankCalls u must not be a hockey fan. most assist dont come from fluke plays u moron
AvsFanFoLife 3 months ago
i like duchene but bad news for the avalanche... Matt Duchene has already touched the stanley cup before winning it...
critic1900 2 years ago 2
Give me a break, voodoo bitch.
ebonymuncher 2 years ago
Bad news for you cause he plays for the avs
hahahahah
AKAo9 2 years ago
what are you talking about... if you had understood what i was talking about you would know that it is a jynx too touch the stanley cup before winning it lol idiot and i was emplying that the avs are jynx...it was a joke...figure it out pal.
critic1900 2 years ago
I know it's a joke but i'm saying watch out cause hes good and he WILL win a cup
AKAo9 2 years ago
agreed
critic1900 2 years ago
wow watta dream for duchene. being drafted by ur favorite team growing up. not often u get a chance like that. good luck matt
hockeyplyr81 2 years ago
Oh man, he grew up an Avs fan? He's going to be good considering he's going to be with his favorite team.
beeryce88 2 years ago
Hope he does good
Kipperluongo 2 years ago 2
Brampton's sweaters are so ugly, whenever I see them I laugh
Smeags11 2 years ago
no they are sick ur fucking gay
americaisawesome 2 years ago
Welcome to the Avs, Matt! :) You're awesome.
WhySoSeerious 2 years ago
I really think the Avs got a great goaltender in Craig Anderson he led the NHL in GAA back in January, I can not wait to see what this kid can do!!
paintballstud665 2 years ago
what? no the avs got craig anderson? oh no please no. he is horrible. i really hope the avs put duchen up at least on the 4th line if not the 3rd. i want to see him in action for my team!
ThaNedster828 2 years ago
He's not a grinder so he'll most likely be C up on the 2nd with Wolski moving back to LW. And Craig Anderson is good, where'd you see that he's terrible?
addictedkoala 2 years ago
You're an idiot. Anderson sucks. Clearly you don't even know hockey. Even before he came to Colorado he had decent numbers in Florida backing up Vokoun, and had the second most shutouts in the NHL last year I think, or close to. He's just showing everyone he can do it now on a full time basis, and people notice now because he's starting.
aporchmonkey 1 year ago
Not a kid, he's 28.
aporchmonkey 1 year ago
The Avalanche will be a great team in a few years,we got Stastny,Svatos,Duchene,Wolski and Liles...if Colorado could get a great goaltender and 1 or 2 good forwards they will make the playoffs next season:)But i miss the good old days when we had Forsberg,Sakic,Blake and Roy:)
Forcepro21 2 years ago
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He will never win the cup
he touched it before winning it
liammunky 2 years ago
Yeah I noticed this as well.
OrgasmicOprah 2 years ago
hahaha favorite player is crosby wtf he is garbage screw crosby and screw u duchene i thought i liked u now i have no respect
Flyers2cup1227 2 years ago
agreed
Tetrahydrocanbnl 2 years ago
wow you are just awesome.
avsrule27 2 years ago
His Favorite player is Crosby? WTF!
Ulquiorra4th 2 years ago
too bad the avs dont have sakic anymore. have a great retirement!!!
hockey114766 2 years ago 3
This years Bust!
NintendoGam3r 2 years ago
Hes not Evander Kane
vega21 2 years ago
yeah thats a good thing. Duchene is better.
avschase 2 years ago 2
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decordova221 2 years ago
fuck you thats gonna be john tavares hell be good but definitely not as good as most people say
Avalancheforlife1319 2 years ago 3
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i feel bad for matt duchene. having to start of his career with a team like colorado. poor guy.
KBaddock08 2 years ago
yeah. It going to suck playing with a guy who is leader in points for active players. Sucks playing a guy with rookie records. Suck playing with 3 guys over 300 goals. One over 600. Suck playing with a player who almost beat ovechkin for rookie of the year if he didnt miss the last 20 games he would have. (he had 30 goals in 59 games.) Sucks playing with a guy who has a record for having 1.59 points in every game. Sucks to play on a team who has record for most consecutive division titles. idiot
avschase 2 years ago
how will it suck for duchene to play for colorado ? hes playing for his favourite team.which is good
AznHk 2 years ago 3
No i was ready someone elses comment about duchene is playing for a poor team now. I told him that Duchene is going to be playing with a goal scorers team. Because we have sakic,stastny, Hejduk,Svatos,Smyth,wolski,and stewart. thats a good thing.
avschase 2 years ago
k good ;]
AznHk 2 years ago
Bwahahah... you're a fucking idiot.
ExaltedLegend 2 years ago
thats his favourite team ?
AznHk 2 years ago
wow your the stupidest fuck ever the avs are a great team they are the only team to ever win the stanley cup in teir first season along with many onther records no team has beaten $20 says your a red wings fan huh douchebag?
Avalancheforlife1319 2 years ago 15
they still would have one it if they had stayed as the nordique's. It isn't like a change of Name and location won them the cup, the team was almost set at the time it moved.
CANHEADS 2 years ago
No, they actually wouldn't have. You're forgetting "Le Trade" The Canadiens would never have traded Roy to a team in their division Especially to the Nordiques.
justinleftwinger 2 years ago
so true and without him we would've been fucked
Avalancheforlife1319 2 years ago
that isnt a gaurentee. they might of gotten far in the playoffs, but theres no gaurentee they wouldve won it.
globodog 2 years ago
Probably not. Think about it. If they stay in Quebec, does Montreal trade him there? Not a chance in hell they trade him across province to their rival, they deal him somewhere else. Jocelyn Thibault(if he does'nt get traded), Garth Snow(if he stays, does'nt go to the Flyers) or Stephane Fiset(if Snow left, and he was signed by Quebec) win them a cup. learn your stuff before you make absurd comments.
aporchmonkey 1 year ago
NO WAY
celyn Thibault(if he does'nt get traded), Garth Snow(if he stays, does'nt go to the Flyers) or Stephane Fiset(if Snow left, and he was signed by Quebec) win them a cup. learn your stuff before you make absurd comments.
aporchmonkey 1 year ago
@Avalancheforlife1319 you are officially my favorite person ever! i agree completely
adilynn2030952 1 year ago
@adilynn2030952 haha good to know someone else shares my opinions! thanks =D
Avalancheforlife1319 1 year ago
@Avalancheforlife1319 haha of course! the avs are the best team ever,they for sure will be back on top really soon!
adilynn2030952 1 year ago
@Avalancheforlife1319 they only won in their first season cause they were the nordiques the year before who had tonnes of good young players they just moved. its not like they started from scratch like all the expansion teams
DallasH717 1 year ago
@DallasH717 yeah i know that but they also had to deal with the fact that they were moving across the continent to a place none of them knew anything about. And no one expected too much out of them their first season anyway, they could have gone down in the first round and the fans would still be happy
Avalancheforlife1319 1 year ago
@Avalancheforlife1319. I am a Avalacnhe fan to I agree with everything you said. I think that Duchene will have a break thourgh season in 2010/2011.
paulwall1981 1 year ago
@Avalancheforlife1319
one of our NHL records is the most consecutive division titles 9 most in the NHL and we have been in the NHL how long 15 years and made the playoffs 13 :D
GO AVS GO!!!!!
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Kobradude 2 years ago
He looks like he is going to help the Aves. Denver is a great hockey town. We will enjoy watching him play. WELCOME TO COLORADO!
Allt1457 2 years ago 6
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fuck you bitch col sucks my huge dick
austinex 2 years ago
You suck a fat dick you little bitch! You're probably just a stupid fucking Red Gays fan.
jrhurt76 2 years ago
the only huge dick you got is the one in your asshole.
avschase 2 years ago
hell yeah baby welcome to DENVER :)
mikeman0124 2 years ago
There is no doubt Matt is one of the best skaters for this draft. If you watch him play he is such a clean skater with a really nice effective shot.
Twu93 2 years ago
Taveres is the best ,, not duchene why the fucking NY , I sure Bryan Burke Call NYI general manager and said if you take taveres I gona kill You Ok !
EvgeniMalkin71God 2 years ago
It looks like the Isles can't go wrong with Duchene, Hedman, or Tavares. Personally, as an Islanders fan, I want them to pick Tavares. I see no need whatsoever for Hedman; he'd be a great defensive asset, but if we have Witt, Streit, Martinek, Sutton, Gervais, Meyer, etc... we're good on defense. Tavares or Duchene. I hope we get Tavares. Plus we've got the 26th overall pick... maybe trade 26th pick and some 2nd rounders to get another high pick?
ShadowXer 2 years ago
Witt, Streit, Martinek, Sutton, Gervais and Meyer?? Are you serious? Witt is a big oaf, nearing the end (though, granted, he's still an ok defensemen, but not a #1), Streit is great, that's true, Gervais isn't nearly as good as he was supposed to be, Martinek... lol, Sutton is an oaf like Witt only not as talented and Meyer is a 7th defensemen. You guys need backup everywhere but in nets. Dipietro is the only great player on the team.
DrunkenLeprechaunPro 2 years ago
I never said they were great. Streit is the only great one out of them. I just believe that they make for a solid defense. We could do better; I would love it if we could sign a top 2 defenseman over the offseason. But drafting Hedman over Tavares or Duchene? The Isles need more offense than Defense. The only good offensive threats they have are Okposo and Bailey, MAYBE Weight. But Okposo and Bailey are young, Weight's old. We need offense. Defense can wait, we need a scorer.
ShadowXer 2 years ago
There's no doubt about that. You also need a Tavares to get fans back at the rink. Sorta' like the Pens did with Crosby or the Caps with Ovechkin (and I'm not comparing Tavares to either of them). However, I'm sorry, but Isles have on of the worst defensive units in the league... bottom 5, that's for sure!
DrunkenLeprechaunPro 2 years ago
I can't possibly come up with a counter argument. Worst team in the NHL right now. They need Tavares. So we're agreed.
Plus I'm going to the draft party, and I don't want to have everybody get into a drunken rage if he's not picked. o_o
ShadowXer 2 years ago
Draft party in Montreal or in NY? Cuz I doubt anyone'll be drunk at the draft in Montreal lol
DrunkenLeprechaunPro 2 years ago
NY, of course nobody's drunk in Montreal for that.
ShadowXer 2 years ago
Well, not when we're 18th in line, no. If we were in YOUR shoes we'd probably be pumped.
DrunkenLeprechaunPro 2 years ago
This draft is stacked, you guys still have a good chance of drafting somebody good.
ShadowXer 2 years ago
Ya, I know. But I'm aiming for Zack Kassian but the organization is looking for Louis Leblanc. And besides, our scout (Trevor Timmins) is terrible at first rounders. Marcel Hossa, Ron Hainsey, Kyle Chipchura, David Fischer, Alexander Perezoghin. He even chose Andrei Kostitsyn before Jeff Carter. So I'd rather we trade our pick for an elite player (and we'd obviously add to our pick) but our GM doesn't seem to think that's a good idea. We'll see tonight, I guess. It'll be an interesting year.
DrunkenLeprechaunPro 2 years ago
Duchene to Colorado:)
NAWGWAY 2 years ago
Read you comment. You did say your defensemen were great. You need both defense and offense. look at tampa there team is loaded with offense, but the suck. Bad defense. NY is still going to be a pretty horrible team even with the rookie. I still feel NY will top 5 worst teams next year.
avschase 2 years ago
He seems like the best all around player in the top ten when it comes to offense and defense. Av's are getting one amazing player with this kid!
Kweatherbee 2 years ago 2
id take him over tavares
punkpimp 2 years ago
Matt Duchene is an exact replica of when Joe Sakic when Sakic was young, Matt = future franchise player for the avalanche, Joe Sakic's Replacement, Matt can have the same worlds best wrist shot as sakic, play the point on the powerplay, and matt has unbelievable speed, a threat to score shorthanded. if the avs do not select matt duchene i do not know what the F*** is wrong with them. that is unless tampa takes duchene and colorado takes their new rob blake, victor hedman
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84hotshot84 2 years ago
its going to be either him or tavares to the islanders...tavares will give you 40 goals,duchene will give you a cup...im an isles fan and i want tavares (no offense to duchene who will be great)
WolfmotherFan66 2 years ago
Man if only the Canucks got Duchene...
Hodgson Duchene *DROOLS*
jzownsall 2 years ago 5
if the avs can get a better goalie then i think they would do just fine.
sasukerocker101 2 years ago
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Colorado stanely cup champs 2010-11
AuToMaTiCk7 2 years ago
Not with Budaj or Raycraft.
ItsMeGeoffo 2 years ago 12
Agree they wont win with Budaj or Raycroft.
People say they might get Conkiln or Legace.
BreakDaSafe 2 years ago
Yeah budaj an ok back up goalie. But if we can get goalie with 1% of what patrick roy was then we will be good.
avschase 2 years ago 2
if they get in playoffs they are lucky numb nuts.
sambudwiser 2 years ago 2
If your talking about the Avs, they usually make the playoffs, but they had a lot of injuries.
They are a playoff team.
BreakDaSafe 2 years ago
you forgot a 0 before the "10" & "11"
datsyuk134life 2 years ago
idiot you dont put 0 infront of 11
zackattack94 2 years ago
omg ur stupid. i meant to say that the AVS might win the cup in 20010-20011(in 18000yrs) and wont in 2010-2011
datsyuk134life 2 years ago
we had Sakic out, Forseburg out. Plus others. With all them, minus sakic, we will do good next season
musicNYNEmaker 2 years ago
I would give the Avs a good 18000 years. Missing a few players put you out? The Wings were missing Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Holmstrom, and Lilja at one point in time and they did fine. Look what they did in the playoffs with a quarter of the team injured. Dont make excuses, the Avs hit heir dead era.
cjm502 2 years ago
The Avalanche may not win the Cup in two seasons but they should be able to contend. They need a decent goalie. If they can get a good goalie, a healthy Stastny all season, Duchene, and a couple of the good defensemen they have in the system they should be able to contend. They need to get rid of some of the players like Arnason and Hannon that are such a drag on the payroll.
billwest69 2 years ago
lidstrom,datsyuk, holmstrom. didnt even miss that many games. lidstrom only 2 games in playoffs. holmstrom played 53 games? thats almost more than sakic and forsberg played in the last 2 years combined. we were missing 9 players for the 2008 playoffs. And this year without smyth,sakic,forsberg,stastny,svatos,foote,liles, we almost swept you. if you average games played by our players its about 35 games each and you still couldnt beat us.Your in an easy division.if were dead and you lose to us...
avschase 2 years ago
Your team is full of vets so thats a shitty arguement. Wolski, Statsny, Budaj, Svatos, Liles, Guite, Jones are still relativly young. You had Osgood, Hossa, Chelios, Kronwall, Franzen which are still very key players.
FinalQUEST990 2 years ago
Look at the new roster, a lot more young kids.
cjm502 2 years ago
even with forseburg & sakic, they couldnt matchup vs Datsyuk hossa zetterbergh lidstrom or crosby malkin fleury......
datsyuk134life 2 years ago
it's forsberg you retarded fuck.
kenkomg 2 years ago
perfect example of someone who failed in school spending his life correcting mistakes on youtube comments. i will laugh at you when Tavares will be draft before your crappy hedman
datsyuk134life 2 years ago
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you fail tho. hedman will be tons better than your canadian homoboy tavares. dont even bother messin with me.
kenkomg 2 years ago
You can't say that because they play opposite positions.
VenomFan1989 2 years ago
what a joke
hens0n360 2 years ago
Just look at how they both performed in the world juniors, dumb ass. Tavares was clutch, Hedman was a big Swedish dissapointment.
trinitommy 2 years ago 2
Actually, minus the games against Canda, Hedman beasted that tournament. I watched him play every game, albeit against inferior competition for the most part, but he still dominated. Plus he's looking pretty decent down in TB right now with Ohlund guiding him, he'll do some things down the road for sure.
aporchmonkey 1 year ago
wtf?? Do you know anything about hockey?? sakic and forsberg is one of the best duo's to ever play hockey. behind the great gretzky and messier. The avs almost swept the wings this year without sakic and forsberg and this is our worst year. It shows how zetterberg and datsyuk are not comparable to sakic and forsberg.
avschase 2 years ago
okay yea, without datsyuk Lidstrom & Draper they managed to eliminate Chicago in the playoffs, the Avs without Sakic and Forseburgh finished 27th. And in the past 10 years Datsyuk & Zetterbergh have goten way more chance of winning the cup then the Avalanche
datsyuk134life 2 years ago
Datsyuk and lidstrom did play in Chicago playoffs. LIdstrom played 3 Datsyuk played 2. And draper sucks defensemen get better stats then he does. Avs without stastny, smyth, svatos,sakic,foot,liles,and forsberg finnished 27th. And beating Chicago is nothing to brag about. The 27th placed avs almost swept the wings is something to talk about.
avschase 2 years ago
so they manage to swept the wings,the best team in the league but cant make the playoffs..
datsyuk134life 2 years ago
they werent the best team in the league. San jose and boston played better. And pittsburge won the stanley. We have only missed the playoffs twice...ever. Wings ummm like 30+ times.
avschase 2 years ago
thats because the wings have been in the league for almost 100 years. unlike colorado who ddint even had a team untill 1995
datsyuk134life 2 years ago
77 years not over 100. We are the only team to win a stanley cup the first year after becoming a new club. We have the most consecutive division championships. Record longest sell out streak. You team hasnt had a calder troyphy winner since 1965 or NHL mvp since 94. You team plays for money not for heart.
avschase 2 years ago 2
um. ur wrong the avs were never a "new" club. They were formally the Quebec Nordiques. Same team diiferent name
Dhomess 2 years ago
yeah i know that. Were the same franchise. new team. they put together a new club.
avschase 2 years ago
awards have noting to do with heart dumb ass.
they play as a team hence them winning the most Stanley Cups for a US based team.
btw if the wings played for only the money then they wouldn't have made the playoffs as many times as they did.
and you guys were the only team to do so since you were moved to colorado with a stacked team.
you are a total fucking idiot.
ExileCanadaMetal 2 years ago
are you crazy!!? the proof that they dont play for money: Hossa choosed to go to Detroit and make less money then goin to Pittsburgh and make more money
datsyuk134life 2 years ago
penguins offered 7 mill per year. Detriot 7.45 mill. Read the contract before you say dumb shit.
avschase 2 years ago
yea but the redwings offered him a 1 year contract, the penguins were offering him a long term contract and at the end of the contract he would of made 50 million $
datsyuk134life 2 years ago
it was a 5 year contract so it would have been 35 million in 5 years. 7.45 is still a bigger offer. You have to go off a year basis.
avschase 2 years ago
its bigger for one year, but now that year is over, but if he was with the pens he would have the option to stay and continue make money or eventualy get traded and make as much money
datsyuk134life 2 years ago
and now he's gonna make like twice that in chicago have fun the cellar eh?
Avalancheforlife1319 2 years ago
LOL Obviously
Chicago>>>>>>Detoilet
oXAvalancheXo 2 years ago
And Hoser FAILED for the bloody pussy eaters JUST LIKE he FAILED for the Pens.
bent42 2 years ago
last i checked detroit has made the playoffs 20+ years in a row and no other team has really done that. 4 cups and im not a detroit fan.
archnemesis111 2 years ago
it hasnt hit 20 years. The wings in the dead wings era made reconized them as the worst hockey team for about 20 years.
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decordova221 2 years ago
wow your stupid the avs were without sakic forsberg stastny smyth svatos liles foote salei along with other key players thats like the red wings playing without hossa zetterberg datsyuk lidstrom hudler and franzen any team without their top 8+ players would have a shitty season too
Avalancheforlife1319 2 years ago 15
@Avalancheforlife1319 exept hossa player one year for detroit ... common if your gonna call someone team stupid insinuate they suck ... get your fuckin facts right ass hole hossa was never a GREAT DETROIT Player HE PLAYED THERE 1 SEASON LOL
HitemupWhoshotya 8 months ago
forsberg u fucking dumbass
ILIKEMENANDGIRLS 2 years ago