Schubert -- Die schöne Müllerin, part 1/8

[pepperco100]

The audio recording with Gerald Moore is better. This is nonetheless exceptional!

[OlieGuitarFREAK]

why does it sound like mr bean singing everytime i have to study? its so annoying

[operalover67]

God what a fantastic singer...wohin is perfect....well he's perfect everywhere....

[logioso]

Cannot wait for Justin Bieber to go into Lied to compare these two greats!!

[Gipfelruh]

Die Tücke steckt im Detail, Fischer-Dieskau ist auch in der 3. Strophe nicht langweilig, die kleine Feinheiten sind es, welche die Schubert-Interpretation ausmacht. Es gibt im Barritonfach keinen besseren Sänger. Schade das er keine Meisterkurse mehr anbietet.

[TheDmitrilover]

das ist wirklich etwas herrlisches!

[MissCharliexD]

und das muss ich im chor sind ... na, gute nacht! schön ist es ja, aber nicht gerade leicht ... -.-

[tmtstudio1983]

Dude this guy was close to 67 in this video but his voice sounds so fresh like he was in early to mid 30's. This shows how awesome his singing technique is....

[ekonvollm]

Geniale Interpretation! Fischer-Dieskau war auch mit 67 Jahren noch im Vollbesitz seiner unglaublichen Stimme und Technik.

[laraandlars]

@flylooper there could be more than one Christoph Eschenbach, Gerald Moore died in 1987, the one you are thinking about is a conductor. lol

[elainebmack]

@laraandlars This is the same Christoph Eschenbach who is now primarily a conductor. He switched to conducting some years ago. Most recently he was the music director of the Philadelphia Orchestra.

[laraandlars]

@flylooper there could be more than one Christoph Eschenbach, Gerald Moore died in 1987. lol

[manny75586]

for me, there is no finer male singer of Schubert than Dieskau. There is nothing more that can be said than he just 'gets it' when it comes to interpreting the wondrous melodies of the emperor of the lieder, Franz Schubert!

[Spiritakis]

22 people didn't like this?! Where is this world going?!

[manny75586]

@Spiritakis it really is mind boggling. I'm not sure what there is not to like. Sure, lieder may not be someone's cup of tea but surely even the most ardent anti-Schubertian MUST appreciate the musicianship on display if nothing else.

Perhaps Dieskau has 22 former spurned lovers on Youtube who are expressing past disgust through the dislike button? :) That is about the only semi-rational reason to dislike this.

[Spiritakis]

@manny75586

This is by far the most desirable explanation I can think of.

I can also think of some rather more chilling. Perhaps the most devastating of these is that most of the 22 fellows in question have never heard of Schubert, much less of DFD, but - being at the appropriate age - thought that ''Die schöne Müllerin'' might be some kind of soft porn movie, or least a very decorous advertisement of such.

PS ''Leibniz? You mean the biscuits, right?'' There are classics everywhere!

[NateMcMurph]

Can someone find the other two thirds? pretty please. Would be extremely grateful.

[Spiritakis]

Many opera singers have turned to singing chamber songs towards the end of their careers and have failed to make any lasting impression. Now, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau is quite another matter. He was a Lieder singer par excellence all his life and even late in his career, as here, he could always be counted to deepen his interpretation and made even more moving than before. Splendid voice for somebody just short of his 67th birthday. Beautifully sung.

[flylooper]

I don't think that's Eschenbach at the piano. I think it's Gerald Moore, who was Fischer-Diskau's accompanist for years. It is, however, Dietrich Fischer-Diskau!

[laraandlars]

@flylooper it is listed in the credits that it is Escenbach.

[flylooper]

@laraandlars

Well, I sure didn't know he ever had any hair!

LOL.

[laraandlars]

@flylooper it is listed in the credits that it is Eschenbach playing the piano.

[ElnaraShafigllina]

Er ist wunderbar!

[cicciosamp82]

...il migliore!

[newFranzFerencLiszt]

He's still alive, but I unfortunately think that I'll never see him in a concerto...

what a pity.. :(

[flylooper]

I know the Fischer-Dieskau retired in 1992. This must have been one of his last performances....and what a song cycle to out on! This was probably Schubert's best.

[mimosakinox]

So good to see him again and doing great. He's the bestest with lieds. That's Eschenbach? How wonderful!!! Thank you for posting this!!!!!!!!!

[gugliox]

Much more better Wunderlich!!

[Mrpiazzetta]

He is much better at 65 than was at 30!

[Kerlerot]

Chez les ténors, il y a Wunderlich, puis les autres...

Chez les barytons, il y a Fischer-Dieskau puis les autres...

[Buzaglod]

This is absolute gold!

[ozena52]

Is that mic at the front of the stage the only one picking up the singer's voice? He must reach some serious volume...

[dziady1]

German barking

[rumpwrestler]

@dziady1 Wish i could bark like that!

[iulianik]

@ dziady1 научись так лаять...

[flylooper]

@dziady1

You wouldn't know good music if it bit you in the arse. (Frikkin' idiot!)

[KleineTochter]

Der Gesang von DFD hat mich bisher immer begeistert, allerdings diese Aufnahme gefällt mir gar nicht. Seine besten Zeiten scheinen vorüber zu sein. Die früheren Aufnahmen höre ich mir immer wieder gerne an.

[adecentusername]

Sehr schoen! Und so freudig. A beautiful voice and a sympathetic performance, rolling and warm over the crisp piano parts. On my shopping list now.

[Gunnar2006]

DFD muss hier viel kompensieren, was in seiner meist altväterlich anmutenden Stimme steckt. "Die schöne Müllerin" braucht einen jugendlichen oder zumindest so klingenden Sänger. Deshalb schauspielert er wohl auch so frisch! ;-)

"Die Winterreise" im Gegensatz kenn ich von keinem Sänger so emotional wie von DFD.

[ajakowski]

Vielleich!

[OverHedge99]

Hah, Gerry song!

[veroescobar81]

¡Grande Maestro!

[GGStringsSF]

Only wish that I would be half that capable at his age. That would be an accomplishment!

[dermotafan]

I wish somebody would post Anton's Dermota version of this cycle, when he was the same age as DFD.

[beethomozart]

one of the three great lieder cycles written by the king of this genre, Franz Schubert and with the energic, cristalline and softly melodic voice of this great baritone, the perfect combination a Schubert's lied and Fischer-Dieskau and to put the cream on the top Christoph Eschenbach at the piano, extraordinary!

[chloelovescats]

ha ha, I have listened for one minute before I could recognise what he sings 91st song)was a song once learned in the secondary school.

[beethovenjunkie]

Er ist so ein Entertainer.

Zum Glück leidet aber sein Gesang nicht darunter...

[Dschi]

ich finds schon irgendwie schön und dfd war auch mal ein guter sänger wenn auch nie einer der bersten die ich je gehört hätte ich find fritz wunderlich eigentlich noch schöner manchmal. aber ich finde das er hier wirklich nach altherrenmusik klingt. genau wie sein auch ind ei jahre gekommener pianist. manche musiker können nciht einsehen wenn sie über ihren zenit hinausgesungen haben ich meins nicht böse bei pavarotti wars zum schluss genau so und bei jose carreras ist es auch so

[jjoh1983]

Vergleiche es doch einfach mit der auch hier bei youtube vorhandenen Aufnahme der Winterreise von DFD und AB, und Du wirst erkennen, dass die alten Herren dreimal besser phrasieren können. Die Beiden beherrschen im Gegensatz zu Dir eine musikalische klein- und Großschreibung. Wer José Carreras mit DFD vergleicht, setzt Elly Ameling mit Maria Callas gleich!

Einfach noch mal Aufnahmeprüfung machen - und dann reden wir weiter;-)

[Dschi]

ich weiß jetzt nicht warum du mich so angehen musst ich bin kein studierter musiker wie du suggerierst einer zu sein aber das gebe ich schließlich auch nicht vor. ich habe technisch jose carreras pavarotti und dfd überhauptnicht miteinander vergleichen aber. wenn man alt wird, dann macht der körper nun mal nicht mehr alles mit und singen ist nunmal körperarbeit. mehr hab cih doch gar nciht gesagt wenn acuh etwas provokant formuliert das geb ich zu und entschuldige mich dafür

[jewish1972]

P.Pears finde ich ein besser Singer zu sein als D.F.D.

[Kievest]

I should be so "past my prime." DFD is

still an engaging performer here with that

unique quality of a baritone sounding like

a tenor. One of a handful of singers to

deserve the designation of "Great." Talk

about nuanced singing. Aren't you a little

sick to death of the cardboard cutouts

we are asked to tolerate from many of

the new and not so new crop of "artists?"

Thank you for this posting.

[00Dega00]

DFD ist in seinem Alter bloß am Rumrufen und brüllen. So kommt es mir zumindest bisweilen vor... total gepresst und emoitonslos. Ich finde es überhaupt nicht schön.

[eurabio]

Oh My God

[antongardner2]

I am sorry to say so but Dietrich is a little past his best here. Compare this to the incomparable performance of Erlkonig in the 1950s posted elsewhare.

[78Maniac]

As everybody, as you too, dear antongarner2, DFD gets older at each minute of his life. He was about 65 years old at this performance in Paris. Let's see how you will be at the same age! Anyway I sat in the audience during this performance, and I found it beautiful. Schubert and DFD for ever!

[antongardner2]

Yes, I know. It was more a comment tinged with sadness at the inevitability of human decline, when I also watch him in his magnificent prime. How ironic that Schubert himself was taken from the world when he was still on his way up, like Mozart.

[Pianda]

Bin ich die Einzige, die D-F-D-Gesang (insb. 1) nicht mag?

Meist mangelt es imho an einem authentischen Ausruck. Singt D-F-D "holde Gattin", dann klingt es wie Heiratsschwindel...

mir tun so harsche Worte leid, aber ich litt schon so manches Mal beim Hören.

[olga2809]

Ja ich bin im Großen und Ganzen mit dir einverstanden... Ich finde, Christian Gerhaher singt Schubert viel schöner.

[Pianda]

Den kenne ich (noch) nicht. Mein absoluter Sänger-Gott ist Fritz Wunderlich. Auch gerade hinsichtlich dieser Lieder. Man vergleiche mal DFD und Fritz Wunderlich bei "das Wandern". Also hier - bei dem hier Gehörten - kommt sicherlich keine Lust auf! Man ist nur beschäftigt, die vielen kleinen einstreuenden Sentimente zu deuten. Und landet dann nicht bei etwas Genusshaftem oder tief Erlebten.

[FULFfiction]

wunderlich ist ja wohl auch der gott!

fischer-dieskau hatte auch schon bessere tage (bzw. partien), das gebe ich zu, obwohl ich ihn im grunde sehr mag.

[Dschi]

ich gebe dir auch recht ich bin kein besonderer DFD fan. in jungen jahren war er aber auch wesentlich viel besser das muss man ihm lassen. irgendwie sehen alte sänger nicht ein wann schluss ist *lol* ich sag nur josé carreras. wen ich mir sehr gerne ahöre wenn es um schumann geht ist thomas quasthoff.

[JAYJAY1000000]

It is almost as if Schubert had composed his lieders with Fisher-Dieskau in mind; it is the perfect combination.

[FiChEtTo0]

siehe oben! *g*

[FiChEtTo0]

*he he he*

du willst mir sagen, dass du mehr von gesang verstehst, als ich? lustig.. ich studiere es seit meinem 7. lebensjahr, aber dein kommentar war wirklich erfrischend! ;o)

[piasecznik]

stell doch mal was von dir hier rein, ansonsten kannst du viel erzählen... klar, du studierst seit deinem 7. lebensjahr gesang- was verstehst du bitte unter studieren?

[TimonyErt03]

The version of "Wohin?" that you have on here in in the key of F, not G.

[Cylleruion87]

Because Fischer-Dieskau is a baritone. ^_^

[gorilius]

Fischer-Dieskau is an absolute master of timing and word painting in Lieder. I'm so grateful to have heard him in live performance. Vielen Dank.

[chemchem21]

Fantastic!

[simsa21]

Niemand kann so singen wie er, dass man jede Laute im Text erkennen kann.

[Mropera111]

I love his ability to become different characters with his voice. He doesn't try to make his sound anything more than what it is. What a nice timbre to have.

[QuiRan82]

I sang that too... check out what I loaded up recently...

Greetz

Max

[FiChEtTo0]

i don't like him very much..

er singt über die noten drüber und auf mich macht seine art zu singen, seine technik, einen oberflächlichen gesamteindruck.

[Tekunikaru]

He is the best. Too bad people don't respect musicians if they're not ones favorite...

[lifesavers234]

I like this cycle, but it just too long for one cycle!

[kenwhitmore]

Marcel Pagnol wrote a film script called "The Miller's Daughter," with this song running through it. In t he hypothesises that Franz Schubert himself went wandering and met a poetic miller and his beautiful daughter. He fell in love with the place, the river and the lovely girl. The miller was, opf course, non other than the poet Miller who provided Schuber with his words. Lovely. Yes, you can hear the river in it and the mill wheel turning and grinding the flour, and the sails creaking. Rose

[1singlet]

Hyperbole from non-appreciators of this nice retrospective concert, hardly stirs me.

[elmodoggie]

Yes,he is older here but how wonderful! He did know when to stop,he said"I am no longer the master of my instrument". He is not cardboard.God bless him!

[ickymax]

I'm learning this cycle at the minute for my college exams!!! I like it!!

[paul94708]

I've never heard F-D in his past prime years. This performance was a revelation - a wonderful performance with a cardboard voice. All those gloriously liquid high notes now reduced to squeaks. While I listened I wondered when he began to realize that the voice was going and how did he come to terms with this. Did he listen to his early singing and compare like we may be doing? Or did he just accept and move on. After all he, like we, can always return to the albums.

[ColmOSullivanRed]

what do mean squeeks what do you mean cardboard. How dare you...

[paul94708]

How dare you whitewash this performance. If you met F-D and you told him that his farewell performance was magnificent he would smile and bow graciously but he would know you either had no ear or no taste or no integrity.

[ColmOSullivanRed]

Once again, "How Dare You", you shit. (You certainly have the temprement of an uncivillised person). Catagorically: I do not hear squeeks, nor cardboard. Do you, do you really ? I do, however, recognise the deterioration of his voice, that was never in question, just your presumption of this performance having no merit, which is arrant nonsense Paul. There is admirable depth here, I have my preferences too, and you're a fool not to know it.

[paul94708]

You're wrapped in your cloak of denial, Colm. F-D knows what he's doing but you don't. There is admirable depth, I agree, but much of it is squandered in a struggle to accomplish what the voice won't. If you read my original posting you'll see that I commented on the voice, not the performance -- this IS Fischer-Dieskau. You can't hear, you can't read, and you can't spell. And your choice of insults are infantile.

[ColmOSullivanRed]

I don't hear one "squeak" here, and, believe me, you're the infantile one... From the off your unguarded comments about a great singer marked you as the fool you are. Grow up, and, even better, keep your billous opinions to yourself.

[paul94708]

Oh Colm, you tedious twit.

[David6180]

I have fallen in love with FD recently. Paul is right; this is not as well sung as when he was younger but what do you want, he's almost 67.

[Kontakion]

Typical loser comments on Youtube... jackass losers with no own videos judges one of all times greatest artists. Pathetic to see losers playing gods.

[AnXr]

Dear Kontakion, you are also involved in the exchange of fires yourself! An artist is there to be judged, even by people presumably inferior. F-D is to be admired, not deified.

[Toreadorssong]

Those who understand what it takes to sing this cycle understand why this is an unbelievable performance. Yes Dieskau is no longer young here, but he often those who have passed youth understand it more profoundly. The musical nuances here are phenomenal: respecting the flowing nature of Schubert's musik and able to make strong expressive gesture that paradoxically oppose flow without stopping it. Respect for the master, please. He could only be ill-compared to his earlier self. No one else.

[Chiliarches]

..if it were anyone else, we'd probably all be trashing this video. Am I right?

[mauricioD]

This is how I see it: A recital from DFD such as this is welcome, regardless. That a commercial recording of same might be less favorably considered does not preclude from feeling rewarded in sharing his superlative interpretaive artistry.

[Azzenstudent]

Fischer-Dieskau is a legend, but singing this song cycle at age 67 is an exercise in denial. The essential quality of the material is youthful yearning, not seasoned knowingness. The voice here is not fresh although it's definitely in good shape for given the singer's age. His nuanced presentation cannot make up for this basic problem.

[DerWandrer]

Hmmm while I agree that the song cycle is in its very essence youthful, I think it can be sung at any age as long as the dramatic intention is there, and his voice is in quite good shape.

And I know that it is often blasphamy to critique Dieskau, I'd like to see more interpretation on the strophic songs.

[chowson383]

still as enthrlling - even with grey hair!

[AmadeusJMB]

That fact that he could still sing with the agility that he is singing for his age....is absolutely amazing...his interpretation of music has always pleased me and regardless of the age he is always wonderfull to hear.

[linuxwulf]

Das war doch unglaublich schön!