Man, I can't wait for these two to dual it out in Kona 2011. If you're interested in following Lance's triathlon training, he's constantly updating his twitter under his nickname of @JuanPelota
djdj1000tt.... dude, Lance has never done an ironman, let alone go to KONA, he raced olympic distance. Get your facts straight b4 you try to sound like an expert and be offering advice!
That is insane that Lieto did that well! Especially after a 3 mile swim. I would consider myself good if I was within 10 minutes of Armstrong let alone 15 seconds!
@kiov526 Yes, Chris is a TT motor as well. I am not sure Lance's time over 180km would be much better than Chris, especially after a swim. It would good, and interesting and good for sport to Have Lance at Kona 2011. No one should expect him to finish in the top 10 though. He has never been a strong runner, and he won't round that up in one year, at age 40. For Kona, it has become all about the run.
Sure, I'd like to see Lance in Kona, but wouldn't it be cool to see Chris in the Tour de France? Dude is a beast. I'm sure Lance could make it worth his time and there's plenty of time to train.
That's right! CL was 1st off the bike going into the transition during 2009 Ford Ironman World Championships Kona. I believe Kona Runner Up Lieto finished 112 in 4 hrs 25 minutes!! That's TdF peloton finish times! He would have to avg: 28.4 mph. That's unreal considering he has no benefit of a draft.
triathletes are more used to a time trial bike's geometry and handling, as well as the posture theyre suposed to take, when a road cyclist usually just goes nuts all over the bike moving from side to side, or doing whatever he has to do to get that bike moving over hills or whatever, and as lance said, hes not used to going that fast, a road cyclist doesnt go all out on races and although triathletes dont go all out either, they usually onli bike about 15 milles so theyre used to speed
not necessarily. there are four different distances for triathletes on the bike - 25k, 50k, 56 miles, and 112 miles. also, good cyclists do time trials a lot, so they're perfectly used to the bike geometry and handling. there's plenty of TTs in the big tours, and the TT world championships. so, all depends on the distance and experience of the person as a cyclist. lance should have won. he probably should have won by more, but chris lieto is a monster on the bike, he's the fastest cyclist at IM
and i was just commenting on the guy that said a road cyclist would always beat a triathlete, so i was on the triathlete's side, and eldopestar, had the other side of the issue, if you have something better to say, youre welcome to post it.
I'm sorry because there are people who read these comments and use that as a basis for judgment. I have competed at the highest amateur levels for road cycling and duathlon and have crewed for friends at some of the best triathlons around the country. I have seen lots of athletes at both disciplines and can unequivocally say that most multi-sport athletes are lacking the handling skills that most Cat 4 road riders posses. TT speed is training, tactics, and attention to detail and goes both ways
I have a serious problem with shoulder dislocations from my years spent racing downhill mtn bikes. Putting my arm over my head and applying any pressure= dislocations. Need surgery, but that is tough to fit into the schedule.
i sprained my ankle about a month ago, and i couldnt swim at first cause whenever my foot kicked the water it would cause me so much pain, but at least i have my arms which i use a lot more to swim, ive done biathlons, but its swiming and running, i have to get better at my running though, when i finish i'm in oxygen death and i dont think i could do a triathlon until i get better at running, my cycling is ok, and my swiming is really good,
@djdj1000tt i agree completely with what you said about most triathletes lacking certain skills, personally i don't really like riding with triathletes because they always seems to be really jumpy sence they're not used to riding pace line usually, but they're amazing athletes and i have nothing against them.
@natesoth- I also agree with you that triathletes are some of the most driven athletes out there and can certainly be blazing fast in any of the disciplines. You don't get good handling skills without practice somewhere somehow, and lots of amateurs don't take the time to properly learn.
But to say that road racers are typically all over their bikes is not correct. Also, Lance may not be used to averaging 35mph in a TT, but no one on the planet is. Regardless of what you think of him or his history, he IS one of the fastest people to ever get on a bike and was smoking the best triathletes in Kona when he was a teenager.
i dont think anything bad about him, i thinkhe's great, a presonal hero, i lack the experience you do, im 17, but from what ive seen and what ive riden, when im riding uphill i feel the need to rock the bike from side to side i guess its for leverage, thats what my comment was about, i think it specified it was on hills
That's all cool, and good for you for getting into the sport. Lance is a great athlete and inspiration, but is also a lightning rod for many. There is a time and place for everything, but you use less energy if you don't rock the bike around. The longer the race, the more you need to think about energy conservation. If you want some tips, send me a message and I would be happy to tell you what I know.
Deus my fellow American (who are usually metrically challenged, but don't be ashamed). For km/hr to mph, take the measurement in km x 0.62 and you'll get mph.
I saw a picture of Lance's bike computer suggesting an average heart rate of 176. I googled his lactic threshold and at one time it was 178. It would be interesting to know Chris' averge heart rate today. I bet he was well above his threshold. Not sure who should be more concerned...Contador or Crowie.
top bloke!
FitnessFreaky1978 5 months ago
56K/HR???? OUCH!!!
ulfthegoon 1 year ago 3
Man, I can't wait for these two to dual it out in Kona 2011. If you're interested in following Lance's triathlon training, he's constantly updating his twitter under his nickname of @JuanPelota
lucybyu 1 year ago
Both Chris and Lance seem like such awesome guys.
Thanks for the upload.
Peekingduck 1 year ago
the dude in the back left with the helmet on...was he on the u.s. postal team??
Bhousm76 1 year ago
djdj1000tt.... dude, Lance has never done an ironman, let alone go to KONA, he raced olympic distance. Get your facts straight b4 you try to sound like an expert and be offering advice!
ramsesrccl 1 year ago
That is insane that Lieto did that well! Especially after a 3 mile swim. I would consider myself good if I was within 10 minutes of Armstrong let alone 15 seconds!
kiov526 2 years ago
@kiov526 Yes, Chris is a TT motor as well. I am not sure Lance's time over 180km would be much better than Chris, especially after a swim. It would good, and interesting and good for sport to Have Lance at Kona 2011. No one should expect him to finish in the top 10 though. He has never been a strong runner, and he won't round that up in one year, at age 40. For Kona, it has become all about the run.
innismor11 1 year ago
Lance is unbelievable. He is a champ!
Touchdown 77 !
glennosmansdeiros 2 years ago
Sure, I'd like to see Lance in Kona, but wouldn't it be cool to see Chris in the Tour de France? Dude is a beast. I'm sure Lance could make it worth his time and there's plenty of time to train.
proloanofficer 2 years ago
gosh i want to suck that one nut so bad!
411MaryJay 2 years ago 2
Lance, you are the best. Hope we see you in Kona!!!!
ironmaikey 2 years ago
Couple notes..
I think the photo of Lance's computer showed maximums for the ride. Similar to the SRM Power Control VI, it says total in the corner.
Also, people who were there said Lance's follow vehicle actually *blocked* the massive tailwind to a large extent. Kinda funny.
Great rides by two very classy guys! Here's to hoping for another showdown on the Queen K in a couple years..
velospeed2002 2 years ago
love lance!!!!!!!!!!!
andyastro1 2 years ago
Waitebe. You're right. But still. 25 is still impressive given they have headwind during Kona competition
gtrpimp76 2 years ago
That was awesome. What other sports do athletes get out like this and compete? Shows what kind of guys these two are. Very cool.
go18in4 2 years ago
sgarvey0001...... Put the time trail over 112 miles and then see what happenes. CL does more distance than short TT as lance pointed out.
dwags76 2 years ago
That's right! CL was 1st off the bike going into the transition during 2009 Ford Ironman World Championships Kona. I believe Kona Runner Up Lieto finished 112 in 4 hrs 25 minutes!! That's TdF peloton finish times! He would have to avg: 28.4 mph. That's unreal considering he has no benefit of a draft.
gtrpimp76 2 years ago
You might want to recheck your math. 112 miles in 4hrs 25mins is 25.3mph average.
waitebe 2 years ago 2
Road Bike Racer will always beat Triathlete Man!
sgarvey0001 2 years ago
triathletes are more used to a time trial bike's geometry and handling, as well as the posture theyre suposed to take, when a road cyclist usually just goes nuts all over the bike moving from side to side, or doing whatever he has to do to get that bike moving over hills or whatever, and as lance said, hes not used to going that fast, a road cyclist doesnt go all out on races and although triathletes dont go all out either, they usually onli bike about 15 milles so theyre used to speed
felio182 2 years ago
not necessarily. there are four different distances for triathletes on the bike - 25k, 50k, 56 miles, and 112 miles. also, good cyclists do time trials a lot, so they're perfectly used to the bike geometry and handling. there's plenty of TTs in the big tours, and the TT world championships. so, all depends on the distance and experience of the person as a cyclist. lance should have won. he probably should have won by more, but chris lieto is a monster on the bike, he's the fastest cyclist at IM
eldopestar 2 years ago
I'm sorry to say that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
djdj1000tt 2 years ago
why would you be sorry?
and i was just commenting on the guy that said a road cyclist would always beat a triathlete, so i was on the triathlete's side, and eldopestar, had the other side of the issue, if you have something better to say, youre welcome to post it.
felio182 2 years ago
I'm sorry because there are people who read these comments and use that as a basis for judgment. I have competed at the highest amateur levels for road cycling and duathlon and have crewed for friends at some of the best triathlons around the country. I have seen lots of athletes at both disciplines and can unequivocally say that most multi-sport athletes are lacking the handling skills that most Cat 4 road riders posses. TT speed is training, tactics, and attention to detail and goes both ways
djdj1000tt 2 years ago
cool!
different subject:
how come you dont do triathlons?
felio182 2 years ago
I have a serious problem with shoulder dislocations from my years spent racing downhill mtn bikes. Putting my arm over my head and applying any pressure= dislocations. Need surgery, but that is tough to fit into the schedule.
djdj1000tt 2 years ago
oh so you cant swim?
that sucks..
i sprained my ankle about a month ago, and i couldnt swim at first cause whenever my foot kicked the water it would cause me so much pain, but at least i have my arms which i use a lot more to swim, ive done biathlons, but its swiming and running, i have to get better at my running though, when i finish i'm in oxygen death and i dont think i could do a triathlon until i get better at running, my cycling is ok, and my swiming is really good,
felio182 2 years ago
@djdj1000tt i agree completely with what you said about most triathletes lacking certain skills, personally i don't really like riding with triathletes because they always seems to be really jumpy sence they're not used to riding pace line usually, but they're amazing athletes and i have nothing against them.
natesoth 2 years ago
@natesoth- I also agree with you that triathletes are some of the most driven athletes out there and can certainly be blazing fast in any of the disciplines. You don't get good handling skills without practice somewhere somehow, and lots of amateurs don't take the time to properly learn.
djdj1000tt 2 years ago
But to say that road racers are typically all over their bikes is not correct. Also, Lance may not be used to averaging 35mph in a TT, but no one on the planet is. Regardless of what you think of him or his history, he IS one of the fastest people to ever get on a bike and was smoking the best triathletes in Kona when he was a teenager.
djdj1000tt 2 years ago
i dont think anything bad about him, i thinkhe's great, a presonal hero, i lack the experience you do, im 17, but from what ive seen and what ive riden, when im riding uphill i feel the need to rock the bike from side to side i guess its for leverage, thats what my comment was about, i think it specified it was on hills
felio182 2 years ago
That's all cool, and good for you for getting into the sport. Lance is a great athlete and inspiration, but is also a lightning rod for many. There is a time and place for everything, but you use less energy if you don't rock the bike around. The longer the race, the more you need to think about energy conservation. If you want some tips, send me a message and I would be happy to tell you what I know.
djdj1000tt 2 years ago
Bree Wee!!!!!
djwang06 2 years ago
You guys Rock!!
TheMountainsun 2 years ago
Deus my fellow American (who are usually metrically challenged, but don't be ashamed). For km/hr to mph, take the measurement in km x 0.62 and you'll get mph.
gtrpimp76 2 years ago
Well, that's easy enough. Thanks a lot!
deus555 2 years ago
You guys are all idiots if you think, lance really let Lieto get that close. It's all a mind game. He sat up at one point.
genericvideo1 2 years ago
awesome!
MrChopper0077 2 years ago
I saw a picture of Lance's bike computer suggesting an average heart rate of 176. I googled his lactic threshold and at one time it was 178. It would be interesting to know Chris' averge heart rate today. I bet he was well above his threshold. Not sure who should be more concerned...Contador or Crowie.
nbkm7l1 2 years ago
Awesome but how fast is that in mph?
I'm an American.
deus555 2 years ago
@deus555 so type "56kph to mph" into google. the internet is hard.
ballsmcdouche 2 years ago
@ballsmcdouche 34.7 miles per hour! Smoking fast, and in the wind!
Bombero152 2 years ago
@Bombero152
He said tailwind, not headwind.
glendoi 2 years ago
It was amazing to line up with Lance this AM. What a ride! Goodtimes. Lance IM Kona 2011.
hawaiidolphinboy 2 years ago
Awesome
americazgreatest1 2 years ago
56 km/h average.....
Start crying you Contador!
misnoegde 2 years ago
I hope so! I dig Lance. I like Conty too..but if Lance can pull of the "impossible" that would be GREAT!!!! I want to see a great TDF
videolover61 2 years ago 6
This is great for Lance and Chris, but I think the real winner is Trek.
DevinHungryjack 2 years ago
lieto in kona 2010 :D go multisport ministries. hope you crush the tdf, lance. awesome.
abstraction11 2 years ago
Lance is awesome. So humble.
schratboy 2 years ago 12
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-2°C in the UK....
sneakitout 2 years ago
As I said be4 "The Best"
Madone1952 2 years ago
Good fun and probably closer than Lance was expecting.
deniabhoy 2 years ago 2
lance in his tt clothing....i think that made the difference! love it
Munkiefan 2 years ago
-3° in France....
Feveseb 2 years ago
Great
ADERITOMP 2 years ago
Sweet
imzewski 2 years ago