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  • I was gonna ask where the hell all of this stuff was.. but than I seen the comments and the vid is older than I've been playing.. I couldn't find the judgment of wisdom but I suppose its renamed Judgement now? Idk. I was real confused.

  • hi ı want play paladin but ı dnt know thyre godd fr pvp and ı dnt create any paladin before and ı dnt know paladin is a funny class.. example priests have mind control can you tell me good side and bad side of paladin thx

  • nice vid

  • I play on 3.3.5 Priv servers and I just want to say that this is a great video. Thank you very much for posting it. Though our server is a little under populated, I am hoping that at some point I will be able to truly test these events in raids that you went over. Again great video, and thank you very much!

  • what gear woud be best for a paladin?

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  • question: I have been a ret pally since vanilla wow and concecrate has always been crap. It takes half our my mana and it does 6000 damage total after 10 sec. So what is the advantage of using it

  • @Drmario192 I mainly use it as a Prot to gen extra aoe threat.

  • I run out of mana, why you don't ?

  • keyboard turn much pve nerd?

  • epic but i need talents sadly..

  • this is what wow turned into, a bunch of dipshits key binding everything making the game so easy a 4 year old could pull top dps.

  • I have a better rotation!

    U need to Keybind 12345qwertasdf as spells

    and then! SMASH YOUR HEAD AT THE PLACE WHERE YOU KEYBOUNDED!

    I can !GUARANTEE! that you have 500000k Dps With 2k GaySc0re.

  • Brilliant you go through it very clearly great video.

  • ONE SHOULD LOL AT U SAYIN ONE SHOULD!

  • Im thinking of getting a ret pala on a private server I play on, since im getting bored of my hunter. Any tips on what stats to stack for pvp?

  • Herukami token and seal of corruption ftw.

  • @ bambamthankyamaam, I love how your pally I insanely over the hit cap gg.

  • did this remind anyone of sitting through company training videos?

  • mm.. Skill > GS. you can put on the wrong gear to have higher gs or you can gear correctly and pull out more dps but with lower gs. its one of the worst things to happen to wow. i haven't played in a month and i had around 6060gs on my paladin.

    Nurai@Ner'zhul, look at my armory and see how to gem. Str > Crit > Agi > Haste is what i go for in stats. never gem for socket bonus unless its 100% beneficial or for meta gem (21agi/crit) which all you need is the nightmare tear

  • i used to use avenging wrath after gathering 5 stacks of seal, but realised that i was missing the trinket proc from death's verdict, so now i use it at engage...what do u think is better?

  • @cacat10000 I haven't analyzed the data on that to be honest. But with something as random as a proc, you can't really time it with your other dps abilities. By putting up Avenging wrath first, you ensure it's use later in the fight. If you wait too long, the fight could be over and not get a chance to pop it a second time. I guess it really depends on how quickly your target goes down.

  • very good video, only thing is though i dont agree with all the priorities.

  • Can you make a vid on macros for auto attack for all strikes? Been searching the web , can't seem to find any. I know our abilities are fcfs.

  • 0:22 did he say retribution aura? hmmmm check the talent again...

    1:38 sorry m8, but this is a lil wrong rotation

  • Stop saying "one" ffs. 

  • the video is good but for me is not useful :D i know how to play my pal :D

    btw i hate ally ^^

  • Can you link me to your build? 

  • ok my pally is about 5.2 k gs and i go for strength crit and hit mostly strength what do u think my average dps on an icc boss should b?

  • @mcmuffins333 You've probably heard, it's not the gear score, it's the player and the gear. I've seen people come in with high gear scores but have only pvp gear on that dps at 1.5k dps. I'd need to see you're gear and stats to properly evaluate.

  • nice man... huge help... i had been using command on icc bosses just plainly on noeone had complained about my dps but i was wondering why it was low...

    cheers

  • @ShitMeDickie lol... basic mistake :S ....at least now u know :P

  • TuTuTuToorial :D Love you Man

  • best ret guide :] ty very much

  • Love this video.

  • Hey nice vids can u make vid whit ur talent tree ???

  • Great vid thanks, my pally is doing a lot more dmg now.

  • So, I just got 60 frost, should I get t10 gloves or shoulders? I am just becoming ret spec (is main tank spec)

  • @keelord It's always better to get the stuff you can't get out of VOA first. Get the shoulders then if you can hold off, the chest or helm. Save the gloves and leggings for last. There's also a chance for some pretty cool PVP gloves to drop from frost boss there as well that give 5% to one of your abilities.

  • i got a question...im a ret paladin and i just hit lvl 80 recently...i had problems on my gearing and was wondering what to do during lvl 80...i dont know who or where should i raid and what else to do..so im basically stuck...plz help...my hp is 12k and my armor is 7k...i know its poor but any suggestions on what raid boss should i get 1st???

  • @fiend01731 can you link your armory? I need to see what you have exactly before I can give you any advice. thanks

  • I gotta say, I don't agree 100% with your rotation but it's a great video for those who have no idea how to play retribution paladins.

  • @DTBrowser Yeah there have been some concerns regarding the rotation. I pulled them off elitist jerks a while ago. They were for 2 t10 and 2 t9. Things change if you have all t10. This video was made for beginners. But I should have mentioned it in the video.

  • I have been a clicker for ever and now i realize i must push keys but its so hard transitioning any tips?

  • @MegaBudda123 On the contrary, pushing keys makes things easier. Just use the number keys on your keyboard, and memorize the order of the spells you have put on your hotbar. I usually leave my left hand on the numbers 1-4 and put the abilities that I most frequently use there. I let my left index finger shift to hit 5 and 6. I use my right hand for movement. Also the F1 through F12 can be assigned in the menu. Watch my tanking basics video it will show you how to set up other keys.

  • lebrums? fucking retard its lebrams

  • @lordmorgarath1 Fucking retard it's Librams..

  • wow that was a great video, now try puting one on about how to gem pls :P

  • @ABAZAMB Have you tried using Rawr? It's a program that you can import your character's stats and gear into. It calculates the optimum way to gear for you using what gems and what gear you have. It also allows you to preview the dps change in other pieces of gear available.

  • @88Baylor is it addon? (rawr)

  • @AnS4EveR7 its a PROGRAM theres a Rawr addon for WoW but thats not the same.

  • Your FCFS rotation is wrong, its CS/Judge/DS/Con/HW/Exo I dont have the time or space to explain, but in short using this Rotation in will keep more abilities on cooldown "longer" since that is the goal, using your rotation method you will constantly have two or more abilities coming off CD at the same time (or within GCD) causing a huge dps lost over time.This method also lowers the need for Divine Plea, helping on long burn encounters like Saurfang, Festergut, Rotface, Bloodqueen and Lich King

  • I was wondering as for gearing my Paladin, all ive been doing is running chain Heroics and collecting badges, what else would you suggest i do to increase my gear as well as my dps? Cause ive been having some trouble figuring out my armor and etc

  • @applesauceboy23 Take a look at my site, bybaylor.com. There's an article in there on the basics of ret pally gearing. There's lots of things that might help you there.

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  • even after playing pally to 80, there are a few tips here that helped ;)

  • Very well made video. I didn't need the info but this video would be GREAT for anyone switching to ret after getting ret - badge gear with a tank set =P One thing that stood out was that you presented the info in a very professional manner which I think is great.

  • whats the hit / expertise cap on retadins?

  • A++++ Thanks a ton man really helpful video, keep em comin!

  • is keyboard turning good?

  • @velas45 i know, but the dude in the vid is totally doing it. a keyboard turner is telling you guys how to do alot of dps!

  • @GlowRaver800 get a razer mouse, you can bind like 10 abilities to the buttons on the side of the mouse, and then use the mouse to turn, as mouse turning is helluva lot faster ;0

  • @Tropaeum kinda gay : /

  • dud e ur kinda lagin

  • /cast Exorcism

    /stopcasting Exorcism

    /startattack

    PUT THIS FOR YOUR EXORCISM TRUST ME JUST IN CASE UR SHIT DOESNT PROC

  • and i also saw that ur interface is smaller like i can see the dragons on the end how do i do that?

  • @soothingpickefinger You can either A. play in widescreen mode (if you have a widescreen monitor), or B. use the "UI scale" option on the interface menu.

  • i just use seal of wisdom and blessing of wisdom, that fixes the mana issues

  • Oh! How the hell does Holy Wrath work? Mine never does damage, so does it HAVE to be an undead target?

  • @nechiken Holy wrath affects all undead and demon targets within 10 yards for 3 seconds. There is no limit to the number of mobs that this spell can target, so it's great for dps. Especially in ICC 10/25 trash. However one should try to watch the other pallies in the party to ensure they don't use theirs at the same time because it not only damages the targets but stuns them as well.

  • my ret pally is at 4.9k gs. but on single targets with seal of vengance i do around 3.5k dps is that low??

  • what talent or item procs that makes you character turn red?

  • hey for some reason i keep on running out of mana got a fix for that problem?

  • @soothingpickefinger If you have the 2set t10 bonus,you're most likely spending a lot of mana on those DS procs.  As far as I know you can only do two things to help with this. 1. Use divine plea early in the fight. So that it might finish it's gcd around the time the boss is at 10-20% Then you can pop it again. 2. The use of a runic mana potion in the middle will help you out while you wait for divine plea to reset.

  • @88Baylor i tried out ur tips they help good but also my rotation does LOADS! of dps and my manas gone with in 2-4 minutes into a fight so usually i have bean trying switching to that seal that gives me 2% mana on chance on hit but then i notice a drastic drop in dps im gonna watch ur vid again see if i can get any new tips from it

  • @soothingpickefinger use divine plea when everything is on CD

  • @soothing glyph into seal of command and use the wisdom judgement and it will help a lot

  • @soothingpickefinger try using judment of the wise it realy helps with mana

  • my pally hit 80 not that long ago and im gearin up 4 ret pvp and maybe pve i just need some inspiration 2 pve with a ret i feel like im gonna get blown out by dk's or something

  • @wowpwnx TBH, if a DK knows what they're doing, they'll be highly competitive with pallies. However, there is one fight in particular that is just really bad, and that is the Putricide fight. The DK has a few abilities that allow them to attack at range that give them the advantage as dps, but pallies have a few things that help out with raid utility that make up for it.

  • cool vid, found a few things helpful, but u might wanna mention in later videos that Seal of Vengance is the Alliance version of Seal of Corruption, and ive heard that herkmul (or w/e) trink (60 emblem AP one) is horrible for str dps classes b/c they dont get a pure AP boost but just a pure str boost

  • umm what is ur name or can u give me link to ur armory

  • so wait you make macros to switch out librams when you re-seal for maximum dmg hmm.. i never thought of that

  • on my ret pally i upgraded to a hockey mask , now my dps is maximized.

    this video is totally not needed , need a hockey mask.

  • the FCFS for single target is wrong.

    JoW DS CS Cons HoW Exor is the right rotation

  • hello, really cool video it ´s help me... bud i don´t see your talent .. :(

  • and to add a simple thing, theres an addon called snowfallpresskey which is required aswell in dps, simple, instead of releasing the ability, or spell after u remove ur finger from the number, it would press it by the time u press it.

  • this is just like school for me

  • Additionally without set bonus and librams most paladins will be lost. It would of been more formal to include formations and progretions for low geared paladins

  • Achually over a series of test I've conducted that without that libram seal of command does up to 600 more dps than vengence on single targets, it is also prioritized that concencration be up before your additonal burst dps is issued due to it's incredible dot which will end up doing more dps than over time than the bursts themselves

  • @cadenhole

    could you PM me your armory? because there is no way in hell that SoC can beat SoV on single targets on fights longer than 25 or so seconds. also, conSEcration never has a high priority, since it A) does not keep a buff up, B) does not keep a real debuff up, C) cannot crit and D) does not proc a seal. the only reason that consecration can be higher DPS is if you have a massive number of targets (10 or so).

  • Did I see you click need for the frozen orb? Ninja move man, not cool.

  • @mrpopagiorgio Hey, just thought I'd reply again on the frozen orb thing since you probably didn't get to read my comment about it before from another post. Yes I needed on the orb.I established that in the beginning of the run, that all should need on the orb because that was the time that ninjas were taking the orbs when everyone else was greeding.This video was taken right before they released the patch making orbs more valuable,and people were ninjaing like crazy.The need was preestablished.

  • i would like to know about talens wich one are to use, n also gems anr enchantes maybe u can make a video explaning a lil about plz thta will be helpful

  • Im a little confused on how i should build my tree for this. anything you can do to help me out?

  • how is ur divine storm poping so damn fast ??

  • @LE3ROYJENKINS There is a set bonus for Divine Storm from the t10 gear you get that randomly resets the proc for Divine Storm.

  • i think he has heroism

  • waw nice vid

  • @mitchell442 Thanks for watching! If you have any questions please drop me a line!

  • Ive been having mana troubles on long boss fights, any tips?

  • @nojamesmypie If you're having mana problems, it could be a spec thing. Are you specced 5 points in benediction? Also make sure you use divine plea to keep mana up as well. I can't tell you any more without seeing your characters spec and gear. Hope this helps

  • @88Baylor I have the points in it and i also use divine plea when ever its up i can send you a link to my armory in a pm

  • @nojamesmypie Please do that so I can help you troubleshoot.

  • how do u get your action bar to be short and not the entire length of th screen?

    like on the bottom???

  • @Fasfly23 There's an addon called bartender. and the minimap that i use is called sexymap i believe

  • @88Baylor ya so i have bartender but i still dont know how to make it look like that.... hmmm???....

  • Another thing, I bought 5 primordial saronite for emblem of frost, and then I let a BS make Hellfrozen Bonegrinders for me( 264 str feet) . But the thing is that I can get 264 that is a little bit better from Lady Deathwhisper 25 man. But I'm not available to join ICC 25 with guild, and then I have to pug. And in pugs there are like 6 melee's that will need on the feet if they drop. Should I keep the feet or sell them?

  • Are you using Seal Of Righteousness on Putricide?

  • @SweSk8ter Hey, while it has been recommended to use SoR in conjunction with the SoR glyph for putricide, I would have to say that it is situational. For 10 man's it's unnecessary, and on 25 mans, if you can keep your stacks of vengeance up consistently, SoV is better. However this means you have to position yourself between the slimes and PP to properly be thrown towards him with the explosions. If your raid team is having problems downing adds quick enough, you might go SoR because Tear Gas.

  • Should I enchant my back with haste instead of agi and use Herkuml War Token to make DS proc much?

  • @SweSk8ter Hey, sorry it took so long to reply to your message, I've had a busy week in rl. To answer your question, while it is very observant of you to notice that haste affects weapon swing time, ultimately, numbers have been shown on the dps values of the various trinkets. I think it really depends on what you plan on replacing. For example, Whispering Fang Skull > Herkuml War Token > Greatness. Ultimately, for raids, no i wouldn't swap unless switching with DMC:Greatness.

  • Should you socket your back with haste and get herkuml war token to make DS proc more?

  • You needed on the frozen orb.

  • @Legionxiii Lol, yes i did. This video was taken about a week after the craze on frozen orbs happened. At that time, everyone across servers was needing on them to prevent themselves from being ninja'd. :P

  • pls make a quick tut/msg me in order what stats is needed aka str (ovi) and what more is needed and the caps THANKS!

  • @ss4broly0 Hit 8%>Strength>Expertise6.5%>Crit­>Agi>Haste. The rest aren't really worth stacking for us. Happy to help. Also pls check out my website, I wrote an article on there on some things that might help you out. TC!

  • @88Baylor ty, will check it out, also can u make vid on pvp rots and stuff for max dps and epicness in arena =D

  • @88Baylor whats crit cap?

  • @ss4broly0 There is no soft or hard crit cap. However, 30% is a good number to shoot for. Naturally, you will notice dimishing returns the higher you stack this stat.

  • @ss4broly0 Hey ss, unfortunately, I am not a pvp expert, so I would rather not say anything about it than give you any wrong information. However you might want to look at elitist jerks. They have some forums that might be able to help you out! Good luck!

  • THANKS MAN HELPED LOADS!!

  • You may want to change the priority order of your aoe for ICC I find Holy Wrath far out damages Judgement, also Due to its long cool down I like to use it as soon as it pops up.The aoe stun on undead isn't bad either. And finally Libram of 3 Truths is better DPS for all fights longer than 15 seconds. Which is pretty much every fight these days.

  • The point you make on Holy Wrath is a good one, so long as one properly times Holy Wrath with that of other paladins in the group, or with the cast bars of potentially dangerous mobs. The point is taken as that Libram of Three Truths is clearly better for single target dps boss fights. However, technically, it takes 39 seconds to reach the equivalency of the t9 libram. The data chart is on elitist jerks. Thanks for your advice!

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