Clinton Disses Cheney on Torture Memos

[pchdt]

Haha! You will remain an ignorant deranged assinine jackass and you're too proud and arrogant to hide from that fact.  Just like your hero Hilliary. Haha!

[rmc21586]

love her, she's doing a great job so far as secretary of state

[pchdt]

Hilliary, you are not a reliable source either. She believes Billy is honest and truthful in her marriage. Remember the sniper shots and the mortar during her visit to Bosnia, very honest.

[finerbiner]

@pchdt How FOS you are. Do you hate the US?

[pchdt]

@finerbiner ,

How FOS I am? LOL! Hilliary is FOS! I hate the USA for stating facts and truth of Hilliary is unreliable and dishonesty? Haha, u r deranged! I love the USA, the ideals of the founding fathers, and the Constitution. My dislike of Hilliary has nothing to do with hate or disrespect for USA. Do u think Hilliary hates the USA for dissing the Vice President of the USA?

[finerbiner]

@pchdt Try to write a coherent sentence. You will remain an ignorant fool but can hide this fact a little.

[GOPHATESAMERICA]

its like when my friend gets himself in trouble on a flight simulator and has his plane going nose down with enemy all over and asks me to take over.. as soon as I get the controls and start to pull out of the trouble he starts telling me "no not like that like this".. i want to tell him to shut the hell up, you got us in this mess and i'm fix'n it so sit there and shut up... stop acting like cheney!!!

[icicioic]

...goo gle:  THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY: how decades of clinton double-dealing compromised our national security

[icicioic]

What about N Korea Hillary! Google: Flashback Albright North Korea Cheated

[phillipmarch22]

This Rickenbaugher fuck probably goes home and beats his wife and kicks his dog. Typical GOP asshole treating the Secretary of State like that! Shameful! If the Republicans are wondering why they just ate total shit in the last election, this is problem number 5,697 on the list of your fuck ups! Meaning electing dicks like this!

[warner1959]

right on the money...

[rakrobn]

Well said phillipmarch22.

[thedarkener]

Is it just me or did that whole video seem scripted?

[DyNaMisWeApOn]

No you're just an American idiot.

[thedarkener]

HA HA HA HA *clap clap clap* GO GREEN DAY!

Actually, given the integrity of ALL politicians, you simply can't deny the possibility of little games such as this to put on a show and push your own agenda. You think they have integrity? C'mon, these are all the same people who are buddy buddy when they get together every year and worship a 50 foot wodden owl.

[74reza]

fuck arabs and muslims

[74reza]

fuck arabs and muslims

[biffsmith1950]

No fuck you ! It is intolerance from fuckers like you does a disservice to our country. Freedom of Religion - have you heard of that by chance ?

[phillipmarch22]

To: 74reza: Fuck racists! They are un-educated and ignorant. It is people like you that grow up and start unnecessary wars. Lord Have Mercy!

[phillipmarch22]

We are all created equal! Right on!

[JosephFan2010]

haha i love her. i love how gracious she is. i couldnt do it. i feel like she has always been attacked because she is a woman in power and as u can see this is continuing to happen. i love u hillary. she always seems to make these men who are either republican or democrat, mostly republicans just look like the donkeys ass. go hillary! 2012 baby!

[rakrobn]

I know, me too!!! These Republicans have attacked her since her husband ran in 1992. She even pwns Bill O'reilly as well in his interview. I love her!

[BogataColombia]

WE LOVE YOU7 HILLARY!...LOL

[UserMach]

If I am ever lost somewhere, I wouldn't even ask Dick Cheney for directions.

[peaceispatriotic7]

This Dana Rickafucker is an asshole! I bet you he beats his wife. If I was that guy, I wouldn't have brought up cheney if a gun was held to my head. Jeez!

Read: "We Could Have Done This the Right Way" article. The article is on the web and came out in Newsweek today. Shit is about to hit the fan! Not a minute too soon!

[talllikelurchis]

Democrat liberal PUKES make me sick! Democrats have no problem killing babies, but yet let's not be mean to the poor terrorist who drag American burned bodies down the street for all to see, terrorist who slice the heads of Americans and video tape it so that it can be aired for the whole world to watch! Democrats knew about the torture seven years ago and now because of our knew Communist President who has declared war on the previous Bush administration all the sudden they have concerns? PIGS!

[phillipmarch22]

The Democrats have been at war with the last administration way before President Obama was President, so STFU! You are all about revenge, but you don't know shit about torture and how it damages America. You are an ignorant fuck who can't see past the nose on your face. To actually defend cheney who is about as evil as they come is evil. Get off Fox News and read the laws on torture! Your ignorance is pathetic!

[biffsmith1950]

You are one lame douche bag. The republicans have no problem killing our soldiers or killing the babies, women, dogs, cats and any other living creature in Iraq. Talk about baby killers, indeed. Hey, send some more of our boys and girls over to die in a pointless war in Irag.

[talllikelurchis]

LOL! Clinton allowed over 1 million Tutsi to slaughtered and did nothing to stop it even though the U.N. was begging for his help...He was to busy getting a blowjob.Also Clinton had several opportunities to get rid of Bin Laden but didn't...Now we have Obama sucking terrorist dicks. Why is it that democrats kill defenseless babies, hate America, boo hoo over terrorist and hate the military, hate liberty, freedom? Adolf Obama hasn't stopped sending troops over there my nephew is on his way now!

[biffsmith1950]

He didn't allow 1 million Tutsi to be slaughtered. He was not elected as President of that nation. The world stood by as millions of jews were killed too. Saddam Insane gassed kurds and murdered his people as well. You think the answer is always the military don't you fucker. Your nephew is in Irag because of BUSH asshole. I do wish him well and hopes he comes home safe.

[talllikelurchis]

By the way dicksmiff1950 it's Iraq not Irag,,,,,,,,go get a Hooked on Phonics coarse and learn how to spell, well hell maybe the pantie waste president we have will bail you out and pay for it also.

[biffsmith1950]

biffsmith not dicksmiff. See you cant spell either. Now if you would read something other than Dr Souse maybe you could have an intelligent discussion shit head. Now, go put your head back up your ass.

[rakrobn]

You're right tallikelurchis, you like em to grow up to 18 so then they can sign up for your neocon fantasy wars and die then. You are also ok with children dying from poverty, lack of health insurance, etc. You're pro-birth dumbass, not pro-life. Your against govt. involvement except when it comes to a woman's uterus. Go fuck yourself. How many elections do you have to lose before you realize your part =y is going the way of the Whigs? You must think this is 2001 where people like fear-mongering

[jeffbatt2000]

Why are you so angry? Your side controls everything and you're still filled with irrational rage. I feel sorry for you. I really do. Your life must be miserable, being filled with such dark, ugly bile all day...

[rakrobn]

I am not angry. I am ECSTATIC that neocons such as yourself and your party are in the political wilderness that they are. You deserve it for DECADES to come.

[talllikelurchis]

rakrobn my son is in Iraq fighting and protecting your rights , yes unfortunately asswholes like you have rights thanks to our military that the democrats seem to hate so much........you noticed how that dog feces Obama is taking credit for the successes of the surge in Iraq.......gee didn't he boast how we was against it during the election even you have to admit rakrobn Obama is a complete fuck up...go ahead be a man and admit it!

[rakrobn]

Dumbass, my comment was directed at jeffbatt2000 the chickenhawk. That's what happens when you stick your nose in a conversation midway without reading the entire thing. It's DEMOCRATS that feel veterans pensions, salary should be paid for. Who is it that came up with the updated the GI bill? Oh yeah a DEM (Jim Webb - ALSO a veteran). Where was John McCain? Oh wait, he was in CA at a fundraiser and said he was against it as was GWB, before it was veto-proof, but couldn't even come to vote.

[talllikelurchis]

I'm not a republican nor democrat don't be so narrow minded.........I believe in the fair tax plan........but liberal minded democrat pukes don't think it would be fair to the scum sucking wel-fare dirt bags......they would have to work instead of leeching of the working .......Liberals are destroying our country....every President has stood up for America.....Obama that pussy of a faggot president goes and puts America down in front of the whole world what an embarrassment to the U.S. ...

[rakrobn]

Even Republicans themselves don't support the Fairtax so you can see how much people care. "Liberals are destroying our country" ---- oh go fuck yourself. The GOP had 8 years to fuck up the country - but that was ok. Your language obviously shows what an uneducated moron you are and you obviously LYING that you have a son in Iraq.

[talllikelurchis]

The democraps came to power in 2006 ........gee they promised to stimulate the economy.......what happened.........didn't the democraps promise to end the year in one year that would of been 2007 ........even you rakrobn should be getting sick of all their lies.........Is this really the change you can believe in .......this is Obama's economy now........unemployment is rising......wasn't the "Stimulas Package" supposed to create jobs.....LOL its fucked up how you are still buying their garbage!

[rakrobn]

They came to power in 2007 dumbass. They were elected in Nov. 2006. Moron. When they came into power, every bill they tried to pass was vetoed. In fact, from 2001-2006, Bush never used his veto power until AFTER Dems came into power, and Dems didn't have 2/3 to override, and Americans knew that, hence the ass kicking your party got in November. Do you really think 5 months of Obama's presidency will fix ALL the fuckups left behind by GWB? Then you must really consider him to be the Messiah.

[rakrobn]

Only conservatives would expect Obama to fix 8 years of fuckups by GWB. The growth in the economy from 2003 was a BUBBLE, which finally broke. Yet, conservatives expect Obama to fix ALL these mistakes in 5 months? You really are an idiot. Even I didn't expect him to fix ALL the problems in a few months time, apparently you naively did. Sorry, you were so stupid.

[talllikelurchis]

rakrobn why don't you admit you're jealous of me because I have not allowed my mind to be fucked by the propaganda of the liberal democraps...the world is melting LOL, more taxes more government programs less money for military, more money to the welfare pieces of shits .control every ones lives ..cater to the terrorist..kill babies ...why in the world would anyone want to be part of that liberal democrap cult is beyond me ..you have drank a lot of kool-aid and you are beginning to bore me bye!

[rakrobn]

Running off so quickly? Not suprised. Facts is the best disinfectant for conservatives. You make up something saying Obama was going to lower the capital gains tax, and I prove you were lying. You say less money for the military when actually he has increased military spending and has a better voting record on vets issues than McCain who wanted to decrease spending and close Gitmo, just like Obama. You are DEFINITELY not a veteran's father as you talk like a neanderthal. Nice try lying!!

[jeffbatt2000]

Again, why are you so filled with anger? Where is all this rage coming from? You need to calm down and relax...

[rakrobn]

I'm in the top 5% and you bitch more about taxes - when you'd be getting a tax break, as I doubt you make more than $250 K. Just bc Obama doesn't fulfill your neocon fantasy of "spreading democracy" doesn't mean he doesn't stand up for America. You'd rather have GWB make a fool of ourselves in front of the entire world with no apologies. That's why our word no longer has no value to other countries as we look like hypocrites. Now go get an education as you need one instead of being an inbred.

[talllikelurchis]

rakrbn you lie once again.....Obama the dog shit ...said he would give capital gains tax break on small businesses ....what obama the dog shit didn't tell you that small businesses do no pay a capital gains tax my taxable income shows a high amount however it is not my income as it goes back into my business........Another liberal puke lie....Like i said before LOL I can't believe you still buying Obamas crap... you probaly believe that the animals on mary poppins is real too...you are pathetic!

[rakrobn]

No, Obama NEVER said he would lower the capital gains tax. In fact, that was the main difference in position between him and McCain. Capital gains only affect those who are rich enough to trade stocks (definitely not you), and the market wasn't even doing well so what capital gains were there when the market was going down? Keep lying dumbass.

[jeffbatt2000]

Capital gains doesn't only affect so-called "rich" people. Anyone who owns stocks, anyone wiht a 401k, anyone who sells real estate. Don't be an idiot...

[rakrobn]

You think poor and middle-class people own stock? You are a dumbass.

[jeffbatt2000]

Yeah, I think and know alot of middle class who own stock, or have 401k's, or sell real estate, etc.

I guess you wouldn't know facts, being a teenager and all...

[jeffbatt2000]

You really think anyone believes you make over $250,000 a year? You're obviously a teenager. Your grammar and your juvenile use of the English language proves this.

But that's even pointless. It matters not if you make less than $250,000 a year. Obama is raising taxes on EVERYBODY!!! The Bush tax cuts expire next year and everyone's taxes will go back to Clinton levels (an increase). Not to mention this cap & trade bill will ensure everyone's energy bills will go up $1000 to $3000 a year.

[rakrobn]

My grammar is much better than yours, you uneducated inbred. Now go mooch off my tax dollars. It's nice to see you are repeating RNC talking points without actual thinking. The MIT professor who wrote the article which Republicans are using, said the GOP is misrepresenting his work. But keep up the good work inbred.

[jeffbatt2000]

This rambing, incoherent post has all sorts of things wrong with it.

First of all, I'm niether uneducated, nor inbred. I think your hatred is making you say things you don't mean or haven't thought through very much

Second of all, like I said, no one believes you make over $250,000 a year. Give it up. You're obviously a teenager, with your grammar and your lack of knowledge of recent history

What article am I misrepresenting? You're gonna have to be more specific

[jeffbatt2000]

I feel bad for someone like you who holds so much hatred in their heart for those who hold different points of view, so much so that you tell people you disagree with that they're uneducated and inbred despite knowing nothing about them. You are a very hateful person and your heart seems to have such bile and rage that you can't accept the fact that there are people who think differently than you. To you, there has to have something wrong with them. How do you sleep at night?

[jeffbatt2000]

Oh, and he's also going to tax your health care benefits. But I think it's cute that you still believe this obvious liar, Obama. Do you also believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?

[rakrobn]

Also, retard, Obama has a B+ rating with veterans groups when it came to voting for veterans, guess what McCain had --- a D. Your son fighting in Iraq is not protecting my freedoms. Iraq had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with 9/11. Afghanistan is where he and where we SHOULD HAVE BEEN. You and your son got screwed majorly by Republicans but your PTSD from Vietnam won't let you see that. It doesn't change facts. You seem to play the "Doctrine of infallibility" card that Ann Coulter talks about.

[rakrobn]

Also tallikelurchis, it was GWB who thought that a 3.5% increase in military salaries that Dems wanted was too "excessive". Apparently you think that the GI bill didn't need updating either, even though thousands of veterans cost of education was not being met, due to it being outdated. Republicans didn't want to take 0.5% from millionaires to pay for the new GI bill, instead opted for it to go on our debt. You are a perfect Republican sheep.

[jeffbatt2000]

I can't believe the amount of hatred you have in your heart. You have an absolute hatred for over 63 million people that voted against Barack Obama and you will ill-will on them. Don't you feel any shame at all for hoping people suffer? What's wrong with you? How do you sleep at night?

[rakrobn]

63 million didn't vote against Obama dumbfuck. Just curious in 2000 and 2004 did you give a damn about those who voted for the opposition, esp. in 2000 when Gore won the popular vote? No you didn't. So why would I give a fuck for those who voted for McCain? Any middle-class person who votes Republican deserves to suffer for voting against their economic interests. Now go eat shit.

[jeffbatt2000]

Obama got about 69 million votes out of 132 million cast. He got 52.7% of the vote. Therefore, 47.3% of 132 million is almost 63 million voted against Obama. It's simple math. I know you're still just a teenager but haven't you at least taken algebra yet?

And yes, Bush did care about those that lost the 2000 and 2004 elections, going out of his way to try to get compromise. No one said they don't give a fuck about those that voted against him like you're saying.

[icicioic]

hey human toilet rakrobn...how ya like this 3 trillion dollar obama deficit / nice change huh

[rakrobn]

I love it as we're spending it here in the U.S. unlike GWB's 5 trillion dollar deficit most of it in Iraq.

[jeffbatt2000]

First of all, every single member of Congress on intelligence committees, including NANCY PELOSI, knew that we were waterboarding Khalid Sheik Mohhamed, and none of them had ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT until now, 7 years later. They are all hypocritical scumbags...

[aikido7]

Hypocrisy has no protection in the bright sunshine.

[jeffbatt2000]

Oh, so NOW you're quoting newspaper headlines as fact? You really are stupid. You know who I have backing up what I say? Four former CIA Directors and Obama's own Director of National Security.

[aikido7]

Cheney used Judith Miller to write stories for the NYT after directing her to scources who pointed to WMDs. Cheney then went on Meet the Press & could say "It's not just ME. See--the NYT says it too!"

Cheney used torture to elicit false confessions about thwarted terrorist plots. Then if Cheney gets fingered, he can always say "Hey--we HAD to torture. It worked, didn't it?"

The only way I can recognize the pattern is that I've seen the same slime in my own heart. Some of us can't.

[jeffbatt2000]

Prove he's lying. He's got members of the intelligence community and Congress that will back up what he's saying. Obama could totally prove him wrong if he just released the memos. Why is Obama refusing to release these memos?

[aikido7]

A problem: Someone like Cheney is going to have synchophants. Wouldn't you agree?

Any research on torture's effectiveness should also look at evidence collected PRIOR to the Bush Administration. Does that make sense?

President Ronald Reagan was adamant about prosecuting for torture & even for treatment that wasn't legally classified as torture. Is this relevant?

It's not the job of a president to prove anyone wrong. And it turns out Cheney DID NOT ask CIA to turn over anything.

[jeffbatt2000]

Oh, but it's a job of a President to selectively declassify confidential CIA memos that he thinks damage the previous administration but not ones that prove what they did worked? Obama's already politicized it. He's playing games with National Securtiy information...

[aikido7]

Obsess over the game (Obama) or watch the ball (Justice Dept). Courts have always had the means--in camera--to deal with classified information without it being publicly exposed. The released memos' content had already been leaked in March by reporter Mark Danner. So there's no politicizing there. And "playing games" with intelligence is a serious charge, as we shall no doubt see if all evidence comes out.

Mommy!! It's NOT FAIR!! I answer ALL jeffbatt's questions & he never answers ONE!!

[jeffbatt2000]

Dude, the point is, we know for 100% certainty that waterboarding Khalid Sheik Mohhamed saved hundreds, probably thousands of lives. Everyone with knowledge, for former CIA, current CIA, the former VP, and Obama's own Director of National Intelligence admit that waterboarding saved American's lives. Now, there's proof of it. Your Boy Obama refuses to show it. Believe me, if he actually tries to prosecute anyone over this, the memos will come out.

[aikido7]

It's a new day & we no longer have a president that sticks his nose into the other 2 branches of govt. We have SEPARATION OF POWERS. The JUSTICE Dept. prosecutes, not the Executive.

Finally, your basic ignorance of the great strength of our American system does not suprise me in the wake of your false statements about '100%' 'thousands of lives' 'everyone' with 'knowledge' etc. And did I forget your 'Obama refuses to show it'? You need to read & research before you write such crap..

[jeffbatt2000]

That's where you are being ridiculously stupid. This ISN'T a judicial matter. These Head-Sawing animals are AT WAR WITH US!!! If they capture Americans do you think they put them on trial. No, they saw their heads off while they're still alive...

[aikido7]

I know how you people think. If you have no absolute values, why waste time with morals & ethics? You are a moral relativist. EVERYTHING is permitted because ANY excuse is allowed to justify ANYTHING. Forget history, avoid reality & eschew the human heart.

Terrorism is the war of the less powerful and the poor, & war is the terrorism of the powerful & rich. The worst thing you could do at this point is stare deep into the mirror. But don't worry--you don't know how.

[jeffbatt2000]

Oh, now I'm YOU PEOPLE.

You have two choices:

Save thousands of Americans from dying.

Keep the mass-murdering head-chopper Khalid Sheik Mohhamed's head dry.

You chose Americans dying...

[aikido7]

An Either/Or mindset--also known as "helpless thinking"--necessarily "shuts off" that part of the moral imagination that leads to creativity, right-brained thinking, problem-solving. There are always alternatives to either "giving in" or "fighting back." Now I cannot always tell you what those alternatives are, but I can certainly tell you what they are NOT. They do not involve "giving in" and they do not involve "fighting back."

Nonviolence & morality ROCK !

[rakrobn]

If "These Head-Sawing animals are AT WAR WITH US!!!", they why aren't you enlisting you pussy chickenhawk? You support the war, right, so why aren't you fighting the good fight? Oh it's bc you're a chickenhawk who can talk more smack behind a computer screen in your mother's basement.

[jeffbatt2000]

How do you know I haven't served? Do you think that Obama is a chickenhawk for letting soldiers die in Iraq? Do you think that FDR is a chickenhawk for his "War of Choice" in Europe? Can only people who've been in the military ever comment on it? Are you saying you can't be against Muslim terrorists sawing heads off unless you have been in the military?

[rakrobn]

"Can only people who've been in the military ever comment on it, Are you saying you can't be against Muslim terrorists sawing heads off unless you have been in the military?" ---- Hence meaning you HAVE NOT SERVED. Obama did not SEND soldiers to die in Iraq. That was GWB - an AWOL National Guardsman. Also most of the violence is religious sectarian (faction) violence btw Sunnis and Shiites the major populations in Iraq, NOT Al-Qaeda (who you are referring to). Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

[aikido7]

At some you guys who insist on politicizing torture are going to figure out that we DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS whether there's a (D) or an (R) behind their names when they were instituting a torture policy. I think you honestly think this is a partisan witchhunt & the old "gotcha" politics.

When you toruture human beings, you cross a clear line. Innocent people die, lives are ruined and our reputation in the world & in history is destroyed.

Stop casting the issue in this disgusting way.

[jeffbatt2000]

So, then you're for thousands of Amercians dying. Just own up to it. Say it's worth it to have thousands of Americans die so that a mass-murdering head-chopper doesn't have interrogation done to him that our won Navy Seals go through...

[aikido7]

It's incredibly difficult to talk about morality to those who are cruel & unable to be empathetic. Those people would gladly strangle a baby with their bare hands if "God" or "authority" assures them it the death of the innocent life will eventually lead to world peace.

A shrunken moral ethic cannot see that this one hypothetical act is the same excuse: kill now to save lives, wage war to make peace, bomb civilians to fight ideas.

People like you are insane.

[jeffbatt2000]

Again, if the mass-murdering, head sawing animal Khalid Sheik Mohhamed caught you, he wouldn't care if that you were defending him on youtube. He would still saw your head off while you're aliveand screaming. Think about that the next time you're defending him and saying 3,000 more Americans deserve to die...

[fhqwgads420]

this is so stupid. just release the documents

[tubaboy71]

we will see, so far the only people buying this crap lean left and always leaned left kinda like with Carter who was even more popular than OBAMA and by the time he left office he had a lower final approval than W. Democratic Socialist of America...do some research.

[jeffbatt2000]

HA, HA, HA!!! Obama used fear to get elected. In the generic question for voting, right now the Democrats only have a 2 point lead. Anything can happen in two or four years.The one thing that Obama is guranteeing right now is that the country will NOT rally around him like they did Bush if there's another terrorist attack because he is so publicly rolling back policies that made us safer.Obama has clearly shown that he'd rather have thousands of Americans dead than allow KSM to get his head wet

[aikido7]

jeepgirl1105

we need good people to speak to the point of the discussion, not go off on a rabbit trail about Hillary's husband. Please, jeepgirl. Help our good country get back. Support the truth and follow it wherever it leads you. Your fear prevents you from focusing on the issue.

Remember, Anger is ALWAYS a "cover emotion" for fear. Even the Dog Whisperer Ceasar Milan knows that the big dog who barks & snarls is actually scared & has lost control.

Support this great land, jeepgirl

[publicatdamagnificen]

Well, now all of you dumbass conservative republicans know how we felt when World Champion Nitwit-Sarah Palin REFUSED to give a direct answer to a direct question!!

Put that in yer crackpipe and smoke it!!

[tubaboy71]

LOL waterboarding is done to our troops in training and is a hazing at many military places..no one dies or anything noone gets broken bones, or is actually harmed..just made extremely uncomfortable. Terrorists kill our people they have as prisoners..suprised some of you libbies aren't complaining they don't get HD tv with a full cable package in jail LOL

[primordialprophet1]

Mr Madoff,I would like to introduce you to your new cell mate Dick Cheaney! May you both rot in hell!

[cigars777]

The Billions of dollars wasted, The breaking of civil liberties in the illegal NSA wiretapping.

How many laws have these liars broken and why aren't they in prison?

[jeffbatt2000]

Obama is wasting TRILLIONS!!! (he's agreed to add TEN TRILLION DOLLARS to the National Debt over the next 8 year!!!)

Obama voted last year to CONTINUE the wiretapping because it works!!!

[cigars777]

Cheney should be in prison right now.

How many times does this nut job mention "Cheney" before he asks the question.

THese republican conservative republicans are so full of shit and hypocrisy its amazing to watch.

Lets put it all out in the open, Cheney and his secret energy meeting with all the CEO's of the major energy corporations,

THe lies about the WMDs and the reason to invade Iraq.

[nfbsk]

Okay, ill admit she did dodge the question somewhat. However, no matter how effective torture is, it is never justified.

[jeffbatt2000]

Waterboarding stopped terrorist attacks and SAVED American's lives. How many Americans do you want to die so that Head-Choppers like Khalid Sheik Mohhamed and Abu Zubadayah don't get their hair wet. We did those human scum favors. It's probably the closest they got to taking a bath in years...

[aikido7]

Waterboarding is torture. We have put people to DEATH for torturing. It is against the law. Even Israel stopped torturing years ago. It does not help to get meaninful intelligence. All it does is get people to confess to anything. What prevents you from actually studying the issue, what it involves, how effective it is.

You are just plain afraid. You are exactly like Cheney and the whole gang. This country's leaders gave up our morals because they were afraid. They made you the same

[jeffbatt2000]

Show me where in the US law it says you can't pour water on someone's head.

Also, explain to me why you think it's OK for thousands of people to die in L.A. or driving across the Brooklyn Bridge. Why don't you personally go to every high-raise in L.A. and tell the office workers one by one that you prefer they be dead because you don't want a man who already slaughtered 3,000 people and saws the head off of living people to get his head wet. How do you sleep at night?

[aikido7]

Google "Army Field Manual" or some suc.h. If you do your OWN homework you'll be less likely to automatically SWALLOW the Rush/Cheney/Beck stuff and more likely to RESEARCH claims by those who do not torture that you denigrate. By the way, the idea of a head being cut off terrifies me as well. It goes back to my earliest childhood fears, as it does to everyone else. Being afraid is normal. Acting out of fear is what animals do. At least the way I see it. Humans are better than that.

[aikido7]

We now know that waterboarding did no such thing. Check out the memos online & watch and listen to ALL comments and interpretations of them--both conservative & liberal. Evaluate all the claims & make up your OWN mind. Hannit is only one voice among many. Pay attention to those who speak in DETAIL about the memos & poliicies--not just those who throw out a pithy comment or an insult against the other side.

[jeffbatt2000]

Well, if you're just going to call everyone a liar and not believe anything you're told, then I guess there's no arguing with you. There are sources from current and former CIA, plus Dick Cheney and other former administration officials that confirm this. However, you believe they're ALL LYING. Well, why do you believe your sources if you assume that Cheney and company are lying? How do you believe anything then?

[tubaboy71]

Where is the liberal uproar over Obama's order to bomb Pakistan?? You mean to tell me killing innocent people in a country we are not at war with is better than making someone misserable to get info out of?

[jfmj83]

thats ur job conservative

[tubaboy71]

its not my job it just shows the lack of balance in liberal thinking.....there is none and they are all socialists whom want a power grab and twits like you let them.

[jfmj83]

what is a socialists?

why am i a twit?

what are you complaining about?

[tubaboy71]

Crank up what Bush started times 4 in taking over banks spending more than bush ever could..what do you think about cap and trade? global warming? volcanic activity?

[jfmj83]

lol at the volcano question, i dont see how it's relevant...

global warming, i think its nature taking its course...

cap and trade - no opinion.

u didnt answer my questions...

[tubaboy71]

why should I answer? you called me a consevitive when I been a half assed liberal retard for 20+ years

[jfmj83]

are you implying that now you are a half assed conservative retard?

[tubaboy71]

nope implying 100% of all liberals are retards. No real logic, no real moral compass, no sense of responsability and all their little followers always seem to end up getting what they didn't want in the end because they listen to words that doesn't fully describe what they are pulling for..which is always why half of the liberals always end up hating the other half LOL

[aikido7]

First you lose your best girl. One minute you blubber away & tell her you still love her. The next minute you want to do an OJ on her ass. She LEFT you. She's with Barry now--the smart, competent guy who is a BLACK MAN !!!!

BTW, you think our utilities, police and fire department rescue workers are twits who want a power grab? THEY'RE SOCIALISTS. The socialist model isn't all bad and works quite well with these parts of our country,

[jeffbatt2000]

We know for 100% certainty that waterboarding Khalid Sheik Mohhamed saved Americans lives. Why are you for Americans dying?

[aikido7]

Who is "we"? Those who are trying to justify their immorality? Those intelligence operatives who have experience with how well waterboarding torture works? The FBI who backed out of the whole mess because they knew torturing others was immoral and going up a blind alley?

I immeidately reacted that you were totally wrong on your "certainty" but I could be wrong.

So SHOW me. Please. Prove your claims to yourself & others. For God's sake, guy !!!!!!

[jeffbatt2000]

Your hero Barack Hussein Obama is the one refusing to realease the proof that Cheney and many others that would have knowledge say is there. They made declassifying certain documents political but now they're refusing to declassify the ones that Cheney, CIA members, and members of Congress say are there. Why don't you write a letter to the White House demanding they release this information...

[mesa401]

She's banged more women than Billy.

[nafet]

"Disses?"

[paolonutuni]

Torture is alive and well on American soil, even at Reagan National Airport in DC. Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority beat up and slammed a girl's head into a metal table, leaving her battered with permanent brain damage. Police brutality cops just charge the victim with imaginary crimes after the fact, to somehow justify the torture. With malicious prosecution of victims, police get away with torturing innocent people every single day in this country. We should end US torture now.

[wideawake123]

Obama talks about "Transparency" when it comes to exposing the use of "torture", but redacted the report to exclude what information was learned by it's use... and his Intelligence Chief's sympathy with what the Bush Admin did. VP Cheney is on record saying that if you want to release what was done, release the information that resulted from the interrogations. Because of enhanced interrogation, a major attack on LA was prevented. Why not expose that, along w/Obama's Birth and College records?

[RosaryRick]

Rep Rohrabacer is my new hero. If you noticed she never did answer the question. I don't think she was a very happy camper being talked to that way. She shouldn't have voiced her opinion regarding Cheney and was called to task on it.

[chrisuperfly]

Yes this Rep. Rohrabacher is right on the money.

She has the gall to talk about a non-partisan review then gives the typical leftist response to a direct question.

[arvydas0069]

This about the most retarded waste of time our Government can be involved in right now.

I wonder what kind of brutal torture SPC Fouty and SPC Jiminez went through in hands of Al Qaeda in Iraq before they were beheaded....their bodies were cut and burned....that's what our enemies do to us when we are captured....but let's let our bullshit government whine about waterboarding people who are ready to kill for RELIGION!!

THIS MAKES ME FUCKING SICK. FUCK OBAMA

[wideawake123]

"I wonder what kind of brutal torture SPC Fouty and SPC Jiminez went through in hands of Al Qaeda in Iraq before they were beheaded....their bodies were cut and burned....that's what our enemies do to us when we are captured....but let's let our bullshit government whine about waterboarding people who are ready to kill for RELIGION!!"

Well Said... They should be feeding KSM and the rest of these ghouls to pigs. That would end this "Jihad" in a month.

[2xtream]

Clinton stinks no matter how you spell it

[BinkieMcFartnuggets]

Don't get Cheney started on Clinton though, he's got jokes, if those fail he has a shotgun and he's not afraid to have another accident.

[mockingarab]

LOLZ

[teemuruskeepaa]

Madame Clinton is then discriminating Mr. Cheney