Sega Dreamcast Arcade Stick Mod (Part 2/2)

[MegaDriveAndNeoGeo]

Great mod! i like alot,i think i will have to give this ago myself,Thanks!

[iiLLNEz88]

Great job.. very well done!!

[Zarazuuu]

hey so i can use a sanwa joystick but put a seimitsu mesh ball & it will work???

[daniel070487]

You done a really good job man. Great Tut!

I love the Sega Dreamcast

[TheronInc]

@daniel070487 Danke! =)

[querschnitt]

the stick switches looks like a swastika :)

[unknownsayjin]

Oh! i have this Stick somewhere??? Gotta go Digg through the Closet now!.

Nice tutorial! Very helpfull

[16647]

also if i wanted to not buy a new stick could i still just put the 8 way restrictor on the original stick and get the same movement and flexibility? or no?

[16647]

just curious cause i got lost so you didn't attach,connect the five pin micro switch cause it didn't work(the one you purchased???)

[whiteguysamurai]

"It has five pins, which unfortunatly do not have the same function, but i have taken that into account" Care to, um... Share how you accounted for them?

[TheronInc]

@whiteguysamurai Read the comments, I've shared that more than once already...

[ChrisBrunner]

I am having 2 probs:

1. The original plugs for the buttons don't fit the new buttons. Do you have to cut the original plugs off and solder the wires to the new button's connection points?

2. I can't remove the wires from the original arcade stick. Do you have to use a soldering tool to remove them? And when you say "it doesn't have the same function, but I'll have to take this into account, which I actually did by now", what do you mean? Do you have to re-wire something on the stick?

Thanks.

[TheronInc]

@ChrisBrunner 1. Yes, you do have to cut them off and solder the wires directly onto the buttons.

2. I used some desoldering braid and force to remove those wires, and I had to cut away the plastic plug-thing on the stick before I could do so. The original stick and the Sanwa have a different pinout:

Wire color = original pin function --> Sanwa pin function

Yellow= Left --> Up

Orange = Down

Red = Right

Brown = Up --> Left

Black = Ground

You'll have to switch two cables

[yahoo1o1]

what tools did u use to remove the 2 wings off the sanwa stick. also what tool removes the 4 pins that the sanwa stick fits in. did u use a standard drill to drill in the four new holes for the pins?

[TheronInc]

@yahoo1o1 I just used a regular rotary tool for the drilling and cutting parts, just like a Dremel.

[goldminekid]

@TheronInc: is there specific attachment you use on the dremel, like for drilling the holes for the screws? that's one of the only parts I feel uneasy doing with my arcade stick.

[TheronInc]

@goldminekid Not really, just a regular drilling attachment. The only thing to keep in mind is that you better start out with a small one so the holes don't get too big. Don't worry, it's not that difficult to do. =)

[ChrisBrunner]

The stick looks great. Did you have to buy any additional wires or connectors, or did you only use the parts you listed?

[TheronInc]

@ChrisBrunner No, I didn't need any extra wires or anything. It's as straightforward as it looks. =)

[reixo]

Hot stick! Looks sick :P

But the balltop looks a bit too huge (personal thought/opinion)

How much did you pay total for all those parts? Looks like a lot to me.

[TheronInc]

@reixo About €60. And you are right, it is a little too big. It looked awesome and worked with shoot'em up games, but for fighting games I decided to exchange it with a smaller, transparent one I also bought.

[agressivadue]

Do you know if it would be possible to keep the OEM stick and replace the restrictor plate with a Sanwa 8-way?

[TheronInc]

The Sanwa restrictor is smaller than the one on the default stick, so I'm afraid it's not possible.

[greekLeon]

i have a question: what is a micro switch button?

[TheronInc]

Well, micro switches are more durable than most other mechanisms, and they tend to have a better, more precise feeling when you play with them (the latter is a little hard to describe, unless you have used one before^^).

[greekLeon]

thx man :)

[chozian0]

Nice job!

[TheronInc]

Thanks!

[CERIIANOXX]

Thanks for this, man... it really helped!

I just thought I'd add (not sure if someone's already said this) If you run a search on → "Sanwa Template"

...You'll get a diagram/template for making perfect cuts into the casing for the buttons.

[TheronInc]

Glad to hear that! Oh, that sounds great, I'm sure this will also be useful for anybody who wants to perform this mod. =)

[skorch31]

Great tutorial! I am tempted to give this a try but do you recommend this mod if a person has zero experience soldering?

[TheronInc]

Thanks. I think you could do it, the buttons are very easy to do, the stick can be a bit challenging depending on how you connect the wires to it.

[MattCielo]

Hey man just wanted to say, great video! I just finished modding my arcade stick a few days ago after replacing a couple buttons I broke. Thanks for the video, it helped a TON!

[TheronInc]

Thanks, I'm glad to hear that you found the videos useful! It really is a straightforward mod that's fun to do. What colors did you use for your parts, or did you get differently colored buttons like I did?

[MattCielo]

@TheronInc I just used the standard white sanwa buttons. Others might think that it is boring, but I find it very... elegant on the agetec.

[MattCielo]

I saw that you used new wiring for the sanwa buttons. What was the name of the new part for the wiring?

[MattCielo]

@MattCielo Also, what did you do to make sure that the start button still worked afterwards?

[TheronInc]

The wiring for the buttons is the same, I just removed the plugs that were attached to the cables and soldered the wires directly onto the button pins.

[RawFishSushi]

so you cut the white plug that was attach to the buttons after pulling off the white plugs from the button?

[TheronInc]

Yeah, exactly. =)

[RawFishSushi]

thanks o ya if i wanna remove my joystick from my agetec should i pull out the wires thats attached to the pcb or should i pull the wires attached to the joystick itself? and do i need to use some force cause it seems hard to get out

[TheronInc]

You should pull out the wires from the stick, as it will be easier to work with. You'll need some force, yes - but don't break the PCB.^^

[RawFishSushi]

i see thanks alot i was wondering how did u take yours off? im scared to use too much force and break it

[TheronInc]

No problem. Actually, I used my soldering iron to heat up the solder on the bottom and simultaneously ripped out the wires one by one after removing the plastic plug from the stick's PCB. A little rough, but it worked out.

[RawFishSushi]

i have a problem right now i added in the Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT but the movements are different how do i fix that? i hope you know what i mean

[TheronInc]

Of course, that's what I meant when I mentioned the different pinout in the video.

The original stick and the Sanwa both have 5 pins, but the pinout is different as follows:

Wire color = original pin function --> Sanwa pin function

Yellow= Left --> Up

Orange = Down

Red = Right

Brown = Up --> Left

Black = Ground

As you see, you'll have to switch two cables.

[RawFishSushi]

ic do u know where i can buy those cables or what those cables r called? cause i broke mys =(

[TheronInc]

Those are pretty much standard wires you can get anywhere (Radioshack, etc.). You might not be able to get them in the same color, but that's not a big deal.

[MattCielo]

Just a couple questions, how well does the sanwa stick and buttons work with the stick? Is it so-so, good or does it work perfectly? Also, what did you use to remove the four mounting points and the wings of the arcade stick?

[TheronInc]

It works great, feels way smoother than before. Well, I used my cheap rotary tool, you'll need something similar, e.g. a Dremel.

[LurkingCrassZero]

Slick job mate ;-)

[GarageArian]

Ciao from Italy

This video is Great!!!!!!

Thanks a lot to share this and congratulation for your modded agetec stick!

:)

[TheronInc]

Thank you! I appreciate that!

Greetings from Austria!^^

[0temp0]

hey man, nice vid

bought an arcade stick for my DC about a week ago, then realized i'd much rather an 8 way gate than a 4 way. what tools did you use to remove the 4 mounting points and add the 4 smaller screw holes for the stick?

thanks a lot :)

[TheronInc]

Hi, thanks! =D

Well, you need a rotary tool, e.g. a Dremel. Those tools can be use for drilling, filing and cutting, so it's a must-have for hardware mods. But make sure to get some sanding paper as well to finish it up.^^

[lostSUND4Y]

Amazing job dude, it looks amazing. So much better than the original.

[staplepencil]

Awesome video man! I diffidently have to watch this again when I plan to mod my Dreamcast stick.

[TheronInc]

Thanks! Good luck with it, then. =D

[Smopiiac]

Question: did you have to solder anything during the whole of this? I'm still planning to do this when I have time, because my joystick is totally busted. Widening the button holes for OBSF-30s is easy enough but I'm more interested in mounting a JLF in there. Could you explain what you meant with a 'different pinout'?

[TheronInc]

Like I mentioned, you need light soldering experience, as that's how you'll have to connect the buttons to the corresponding wires. That's why I had to remove the plugs from the original buttons.

The original stick and the Sanwa both have 5 pins, but the pinout is different as follows:

Wire color = original pin function --> Sanwa pin function

Yellow= Left --> Up

Orange = Down

Red = Right

Brown = Up --> Left

Black = Ground

As you see, you'll have to switch two cables.

[Smopiiac]

Aaah I see, thanks for explaining!

[TheronInc]

No problem, mate. =)

[EirikHendenMedia]

Damn nice! :D

[TheronInc]

Thanks, I appreciate that!

[ihearduliekgoatse]

great work again. looks really good.

[TheronInc]

Thanks! =)

[Smopiiac]

Just a little pointer

4-way restrictor = up+down+left+right

8-way restrictor = up+down+left+right+all diagonals

The restrictors you're comparing are all 8-way restrictors, one is just a square gate and the other an octagonal. There are also 4-way and 2-way restrictors in both octagonal and square shape.

Overall a great tutorial, thanks!

[TheronInc]

Oh, is that so?

My bad, I didn't know that. *_*

But still, I like the octagonal restrictor more than the square one.

[Smopiiac]

Don't worry, it was just a small detail ^^

I can understand that, I myself prefer square.

This stick needs quite a lot of modding compared to other sticks to get Sanwa parts in it

[TheronInc]

I think it also depends on the genre you're playing. For shooting games like Ikaruga, I'd say that a square shaped restrictor is a better choice.

Yes, there's a lot to do, but it's not that hard. You could also choose a Seimitsu LS-32 stick instead of the Sanwa one, though that means a lot more work as the base of the stick is bigger. Given the fact that the LS-32 is shorter and thicker than the stick I used, I thinkt it's not worth it - although again, it's a matter of personal preference.

[dde12321]

a great mod!

[TheronInc]

Thank you!^^