do you know how much information has been extracted from torture and how many lives have been saved by performing these "barbaric acts". next time we interrogate terrorists, let's just have tea parties and smoke cigars with them
I am still waiting for Gitmo to be shut down? What happened to Obama's promise of shutting it down in the first year? He even signed a document in public and created huge deal about it.
Joe totally rocks! I agree w/ him on the so called "torture" issue what a bunch of pussies. Waterboarding is a standard practice that the elite military must endure. I can't believe how wussified this country has become. As far as Scarborough goes....I mostly watch when he and Buchanan are on...plus when Mika and Joe argue. When I want real news I turn on Fox or International news CNN.
Lol, that's in the beginning of 2009 - now we know NONE of the info from KSM was reliable and he was 'forced' to say what Cheney wanted him to say, which led to nothing!
He's actually 'gone off' on the waterboarding issue again on Mondy the 8th of Oct. I've been looking for it. He gets really weird...he is very opionated, and narrow, and I can't understand how he hosts such a popular show. Stunning superficiality!
Joe Scarborough, deep down inside, considers himself a re-incarnation of William Buckley. But he lacks the intellectual fortitude and balls to be that conservative voice that tangles with liberals; intellectually speaking above all else. What Joe really is; is a big dumb sap who blabs on about so much, yet says so little.
ironic that bush is judged as a war criminal by the left for torture, yet FDR did worse, Lincoln did worse....both of those Presidents are the heroes of obama....a little hypocracy never hurt anybody i guess
@bmillsistheman FDR did worse? I'd love to see evidence of that... in the case of Bush he explicitly ordered the torture - show me where FDR explicitly ordered the torture of anyone! Lincoln? He was hardly in control of the military because he was such a terrible commander... General Grant would have started a coup d'etat had Lincoln not handed over supreme command of the Union armed forces.
@Relbl FDR??? really? read a damn world war history book....locking up thousands of american citizens simply because they have japanese heritage??? placing these american citizens in glorified concentration camps.....lincoln suspended many rights during the war.....these were actions taken against american citizens even....not even against enemy forces captured on a battle field...if you say that was wrong fine i have no problem with that opinion...but lets keep it in perspective
@Relbl These are all true, but none are war crimes or torture which is what the debate is about. While the Japanese internment was a terrible stain on FDRs record, no Japanese were killed or tortured there. If we want to talk about the rights of citizens being taken away by presidential authority then the buck (once again) stops with Bush and the PATRIOT Act that was slammed down America's throat. I don't see how that is Obama's doing - he wasn't even a Senator yet when that passed.
minka is a bimbo and doesnt know what she actually said in the begining of the segments........it even looks like she is reading of a teleprompter........joe is a hero, god bless him for introducing the elites and no pot smoking middle schooler on youtube can prove me wrong.....o yea and to all the pot smoking hippies against waterboarding ....sit back and we will save the country and keep your ass on a couch playing xbox live at the age of 30
Jesse Ventura ate Hannity alive and he can eat Scarborough alive if given the chance. O'reilly will never have him on either. Joe is a neo con just like the rest. He throws any basic logic or reason because he is letting his emotions consume his argument and deflect from the reality of what America should stand for
I don't like to think of America as a nation that tortures people. What happens on the battlefield of war is different from having someone in our custody. We should be BETTER than the terrorists. Period.
The "exposure" of waterboarding is simply PR, the actual methods and details of the real torture will never be publicized, because it is too extreme for the public to accept.
There are easier methods that require no torture to make anyone tell the truth.
Subliminal programming, done properly and for long enough, can make anyone do or say anything.
A persons loyalty, religious beliefs and even sexual orientation can be changed with subliminal programming, in a matter of weeks or months.
What is wrong with u people we should do anything we could to get the truth out of these animals to protect our own! Do you think they care when their cutting off an Americans head and u people are worried about waterboarding? Let me ask u if a person kidnapped your child would u care what they had to do to him to find out where your child was? I think not and we have to remember these soldiers r someones child an we need to keep our country safe! We should never have to live thru 9-11 again!
Joe is a totally asshole,his mouth runs like my shower.notice when he trying to make a point.endless river.and when a quest reply.he cuts you off.joe is like a tool,big baby that need mommy.one time i was watching rachel i think it was on(race to the whitehouse).rachel slam joe.then i notice joe was gone.i mean he left the set.throw his microphone down.morning joe should be call.fox and friends.we here to lie and to scare american network.
Joe Scarborough is a cushioned blow hard who should get under the wet towel like Christopher Hitchens if he's going to rail for torture like this. Cowards should be quiet. Same with Hannity.
Now that they KNOW what we are going to do, human nature will stop working and the natural response to the deadly threat of drowning will disappear. How much does this clown get paid to say silly things like, "that's the silliest thing I've ever heard." and "I know for a fact . . . that probably" What a bought and pocketed tool.
i love how everybody is pretty much silent the whole time joe is making his rant... well other than chrystia making her comments. after seeing this, i was wondering if we would ever see another angry outburst by joe. also, i believe after this tirade, he got "sent on assignment".
An MTV comic premise was produced, for Rahm Emanuel to bang his brother Ari and produce Steve-O with tatoos and one on the right cheek, for BUTTOCK HEINIKEN O'BUMBUM, for Ari to bonk Hillary and produce Wee Man, for Mike E. to clone Johnny Knoxville, and for us to take it to the bank on a BMX, about Bam's nose looking like Obama's. The next President will be named JOE, with Mika's Daddy Zbig's NOSE, biding his time until SLEEPER finally comes true, narcissistic death-queens. 360.yahoo/bobgnote
See youtube vid "Dick Cheney Torture Coverage-torture does'nt work" where intel guys in Vanity Fair article say info from Khalid Sheik Mohammed under torture was mostly "90% fucking bullshit"
Scarborough needs to read more!!! FUCKING douche!!!
What joe says from 8:05 on is a point that many fail to discuss in all this...if you wanna go after bush fine...but you better go after lincoln and FDR too...but the outrage isnt about beliefs and morals, its about anger towards bush and cheney.
Joe is one of the biggest assholes on tv. (Today 3/11) he was pretending to give a shit about "Rhianna", whoever the fuck she is. He called JZ 'brother' and instructed him to "put on his rings" and go beat this clown up who smacked Rhianna around. Yeah. Like he gives a fuck. Just the way he treats and talks over his sidekick bimbo should tell you exactly how he feels about women in general. The biggest asshole? I rest my case.
Joe Scarborough is in the CIA? How the fuck does he know anything. I actually read that top interrorgator's say torture (waterboarding) doesn't really work anyway. People who support torture need to leave the United States. True Americans would never support this shit!
this one time like...I was reading something about torture and stuff...and like....heard it doesn't work and stuff, so I was like "boooo!" Then I was like telling people they aren't americans if they support waterboarding and stuff. Austin this is how you sound when you open your mouth.
Joe Scarborough is an arrogant ass. Tha nk God he's not in congress any longer. I like the way he switched the subject when it was mentioned the John McCain wanted to close Gitmo and thought waterboarding was torture.
Joe is the most straight forward media anchor on t.v. On this issue I have to agree with Joe. These terrorists only mission in life is to kill americans. If water boarding gives the US intelligence that prevents attacks then why stop using these techniques. How else are you to get the information to prevent attacks or find terrorists. If we stop doing these things and another attack happens these liberals will have a different tune. Terrorists do not have rights that americans have.
i don't have a problem with waterboarding an al quida guy. i have a problem with not putting pressure on israel to get out of the west bank and east jewrasalem. waterboarding and pressure on israel would save american lives. lets do both joe
bunch of pussies in the liberal media... "oh no, we're "torturing ppl who WANT to kill US!" Let the the terrorists go so they can help plan another 9/11...
How do you know for sure they're not terrorists?? So you're saying we randomly pick up people on the street and throw them in gitmo?? Wow...you must be one of those idiots who watch Keith Olbermann for their propaganda.
Its about time someone on msnbc actually says something intelligent once in a while. Joe is the only reason why I watch msnbc, he's actually better than most of the republicans over on fox or cnn.
I'm not comfortable with us doing what we consider wrong because others have done what is wrong. We aer supposed to be the bastions of morality and torture is not an acceptable practice.
id like to put that prick in some 'stress positions' and then ask him if its torture. or deprive him of sleep for 17 days straight and see if he even breathe properly.
Hey listen you don't talk for me Morning Joe. You are ruining my country with your statements, torture only makes people more mad and more determined to destroy you, the soldiers have to take the brunt of your ideas. I will refuse to use all products General Electric the mothership makes. I had to wake up a 3am west coast time to see whats up or should say down with the stock market today and I have to see this. Hey how bout a idea to stop the stock market from tanking that your people caused.
Joe mentions the suspension of habeas corpus by Lincoln but refuses to mention that the specific Constitutional reference to habeas corpus states that it can ONLY be suspended during times of REBELLION. Lincoln had a rebellion on his hands, Bush didn't, and even then Lincoln was roundly taken to task for doing that. Joe then also mentions providing Constitutional rights to non-citizens as though it is not right; however, many parts of the Constitution are applicable to non-citizens.
lets torture the Whitehouse staff, legislation and CEO's. There all fricken liars and love to steal. We can definitely shut down the curroption. Starting with Joe.
Lol, they "gotta go to a break" when she tries to say something, but then it can wait again for a little more until Joe gets to say all that he wants to.
I read on Mika's face: "God, when is this guy gonna get fired? How long do I have to put up with this bull$ん!七?"
And yet, he is like a fresh turd to certain fly voters. These pseudo macho arm chair Rambos and sociopaths find a deep resonance in his double speak/bullshit. Bush still has 1/5 of America snugly in his back pocket. Is it any wonder this clown child has fans?
The Bush administration didn't make anyone safer. If anything we are less safe, embassy bombings still happened under Bush, and we have more enemies than we had before 9/11.
I'd love to force Joe Scarborough into a few weeks of sleep deprivation, and see him to not call it torture. Water boarding, stress positioins, "electric stimulation"(aka electroshock torture)...these are techniques out of the Communist Chinese torture handbook designed specifically to get false confessions.
i've said it b4 and i will say it again: Joe is a sexist! He always talks above women and act as if they cannot think past there emotions.
I find him always cutting of a woman who disagrees with him, to talk to a man and asks if he agrees. WHen he does, he continues on without the woman making her point..as if the man says it so it is true.
This man is a full on sexist and he doesn't even think he is. he has th idea that women r 2 emotional 2 lead..
ha! is joe the dumber somewhat related to Bill'o the clown cause only shit comes from their mouth. If I were the producer of the show I tell this idiot to listen before he goes on mumbling about his neocon philosophy. I am disgusted at such being. so sad that he is the main person of the show.
whatever gets scarborough off the air is all right with me. :D
although he has a point that the dems signed off on torture too. i really think that's why pelosi took impeachment "off the table." but when he says waterboarding "suddenly became morally reprehensible" and says that torture works, i get queasy. i got the impression lately scarborough was trying to moderate his rhetoric but i guess not.
I wish Mika would poke Scarborough in the eye when he says things like that. He's such an asshole. Who gives people like that TV shows anyway? It's just propaganda. Thank the gods for the internet!
Joe, Joe, Joe. Thank goodness you're there protecting America. Who protected Lori Klausutis, who died in your office soon after your unexpected resignation from Congress, after a divorce and rumors of infidelity? Who protected Dr. David Gunn? Not good old Morning Joe - he was busy giving pro bono protection to Dr. Gunn's murderer, Michael Griffin.
This pile of rotting right-wing rhetoric smells from any distance.
Joe cracks me up....knowing that you are not going to be killed has no effect on the torture. water boarding works because it is the body reacts and bleeds into the mind. given enough torture you will beg for death.
Scarborough is just an idiot. I don't know Krystia Freeland but everything she says is backed up by actual fact whereas Joe is just talking out of his ass.
Joe is full of shit. After 911 the general public was all about resolve. Go get Bin Laden. We didn't hear shit about water-boarding let alone what it actually meant until later. At THAT time the people spoke up and said it was torture after we found out what water-boarding actually was. The thing is Joe, it IS 7 years later, we didn't do shit about the 911 masterminds and we proved to the world we are hypocrites. You cannot defend torture and expect the rest of the world to take you seriously.
On 'Morning Joe', Jan 13, 2009, Joe Scarborough likened the torturing of Khalid Sheik Mohammed to pouring a pitcher of ice tea over his head. In this clip, the former Republican Congressman from Florida asks, "How do you define torture?" Answer: Watching this misogynistic idiot go on a rant while Mika Brzenzinski appears to be biting her tongue! Zbigniew Brzezinski's comment that Scarborough's views are "stunningly superficial" is once again applicable.
I think your a terrorist Joe. Does that mean I can come kick in your door and shoot you dead? Infact, lets just say EVERYONE on FOX news is a terrorist, against the American people. Lets kill em. They're only terrorists after all.....
So, here's the proof. USA DOES torture. How am I expected to feel sorry for 9/11 and your losses, when all over the world you kill people, torture and Mame without repercussions.? You deserved 9/11, and you should see more attacks on your home soil, if you choose to not play fair with the rest of us.
Pat you can't judge by something that didn't happen. You don't know the reason it didn't happen. 911 was the Hiroshima of al Quada. The devastation and the subsequent turmoil which continues to this moment is their goal. They don't need to ever attack again, they accomplished the worse attack on this country since the Revolutionary War. That they haven't attacked again is an incredibly stupid argument. How we deal with it is what matters.
Joe, where is your proof that waterboarding has given us so much useful intel? Name one person we arrested/killed? Name one plot foiled. Something. Anything. Guess what? YOU CAN'T! You're taking the word of Bush admin officials who have been parroting this line to save their own ASSES! So again, I ask, name someone, something, some plot ANY FUCKING THING we learned of from waterboarding ANYBODY! Fact is, the guy who waterboarded KSM said they got the best intel when they played NICE with him.
joe is definitely intimated by strong women. he's a joke on his own show. i thought it especially humorous when he referenced when mika's dad, zbigniew brzezinski, smacked him down.
Joe, there is no evidence that torturing people held off any attacks. What is true is that Bush & Cheney knew "bin laden determined to strike" & it happened on their watch. Waterboarding was deemed torture by Americans against WW2 Japan. Joe doesn't know that. He's a tool making up fake facts for the worst elements of elite corporate royalism. We're awake now. Fire this guy.
What a piece of shit Joe Scarborough is, not only is his opinion on torture in itself disgusting, but the way he deals with those who disagree with him is just indefensible. What an asshole!
call 212 664 4444- ask (politely) for the MSNBC COMMENT LINE and tell them to FIRE JOE SCARBOROUGH. He advocated torture. On the Air. The prime directive from George Washington is America does not torture. Fire Scarborugh. Give them a call.
I am appalled! To all non-americans watching, eventually we shall overcome the tyranny of the neoconservative mentality, idiots like joe scarborough will be swept away into the history books, and America will become a great nation lead by great men and women once again. CHANGE.
one european here sure hopes youre right, the majority i met in the us were very decent people, and i failed to understand how those people got so powerful/influental.
america never was so beloved and dreamed of because of their military power, but for the freedom you find there and their moral compass.
I second that. To all citizens around the world, Scarborough is paid by a type of elite that values money above all else. We are awake now. We will work to marginalize these people. Forgive us for sleeping so long. America does NOT condone torture.
Joe resigned after his pregnant mistress was found dead at his campaign office in Florida. Google it and you will see why he resigned.
zygotepeyote 1 month ago
do you know how much information has been extracted from torture and how many lives have been saved by performing these "barbaric acts". next time we interrogate terrorists, let's just have tea parties and smoke cigars with them
rbf0621 2 months ago
I am still waiting for Gitmo to be shut down? What happened to Obama's promise of shutting it down in the first year? He even signed a document in public and created huge deal about it.
captainhighbury 9 months ago
Joe totally rocks! I agree w/ him on the so called "torture" issue what a bunch of pussies. Waterboarding is a standard practice that the elite military must endure. I can't believe how wussified this country has become. As far as Scarborough goes....I mostly watch when he and Buchanan are on...plus when Mika and Joe argue. When I want real news I turn on Fox or International news CNN.
beecee151 11 months ago
This video made me lose any respect that I had left for Scarborough....what a dick
Vertigo2903 11 months ago
Lol, that's in the beginning of 2009 - now we know NONE of the info from KSM was reliable and he was 'forced' to say what Cheney wanted him to say, which led to nothing!
Relbl 1 year ago
He's actually 'gone off' on the waterboarding issue again on Mondy the 8th of Oct. I've been looking for it. He gets really weird...he is very opionated, and narrow, and I can't understand how he hosts such a popular show. Stunning superficiality!
pjamesbda 1 year ago
Why is Joe Scarborough on TV? Life is not a football game!
LordSolaris 1 year ago
Of course he advocates for torture..He advocates for Murder also!
Joe Scarborough is a murderer who's right wing party covered it up!
"A young female employee of one of Florida's Congressmen had died
unexpectedly in the Congressman's office. There were no witnesses to her
death & the cause of death was not apparent. Klausutis' boss, Joe
Scarborough had recently resigned from Congress prematurely and
unexpectedly, amid rumors about his marital fidelity and soon after a
divorce.
blewvelvet 1 year ago
Joe Scarborough, deep down inside, considers himself a re-incarnation of William Buckley. But he lacks the intellectual fortitude and balls to be that conservative voice that tangles with liberals; intellectually speaking above all else. What Joe really is; is a big dumb sap who blabs on about so much, yet says so little.
TheDirteeSanchez 1 year ago
ironic that bush is judged as a war criminal by the left for torture, yet FDR did worse, Lincoln did worse....both of those Presidents are the heroes of obama....a little hypocracy never hurt anybody i guess
bmillsistheman 1 year ago
@bmillsistheman FDR did worse? I'd love to see evidence of that... in the case of Bush he explicitly ordered the torture - show me where FDR explicitly ordered the torture of anyone! Lincoln? He was hardly in control of the military because he was such a terrible commander... General Grant would have started a coup d'etat had Lincoln not handed over supreme command of the Union armed forces.
Relbl 1 year ago
@Relbl FDR??? really? read a damn world war history book....locking up thousands of american citizens simply because they have japanese heritage??? placing these american citizens in glorified concentration camps.....lincoln suspended many rights during the war.....these were actions taken against american citizens even....not even against enemy forces captured on a battle field...if you say that was wrong fine i have no problem with that opinion...but lets keep it in perspective
bmillsistheman 1 year ago
@Relbl These are all true, but none are war crimes or torture which is what the debate is about. While the Japanese internment was a terrible stain on FDRs record, no Japanese were killed or tortured there. If we want to talk about the rights of citizens being taken away by presidential authority then the buck (once again) stops with Bush and the PATRIOT Act that was slammed down America's throat. I don't see how that is Obama's doing - he wasn't even a Senator yet when that passed.
Relbl 1 year ago
minka is a bimbo and doesnt know what she actually said in the begining of the segments........it even looks like she is reading of a teleprompter........joe is a hero, god bless him for introducing the elites and no pot smoking middle schooler on youtube can prove me wrong.....o yea and to all the pot smoking hippies against waterboarding ....sit back and we will save the country and keep your ass on a couch playing xbox live at the age of 30
jbianco93 1 year ago
Terrorist do not deserve Miranda rights, a lawyer or anything else.
gombis666 1 year ago
Jesse Ventura ate Hannity alive and he can eat Scarborough alive if given the chance. O'reilly will never have him on either. Joe is a neo con just like the rest. He throws any basic logic or reason because he is letting his emotions consume his argument and deflect from the reality of what America should stand for
Vertigo2903 2 years ago 4
Scarborough shows his true colors
Vertigo2903 2 years ago
Joe Scarborough is such a smuch. Funny that because waterboarding was done on Arabs it is okay, but when it was done on Americans it was wrong.
I have heard that waterbaording is not reliable .............. from American military personnel.
It is NOT right that because a nation does something wrong to you that you should do the same to taht person
There is a moral issue attached to waterboarding. Could someone tell me why teh USA refused to be a member of International Court of Justice.
tarpumpphillips 2 years ago
hey let's waterboard scarborough. after all it's not torture
darinfahrer 2 years ago
I don't like to think of America as a nation that tortures people. What happens on the battlefield of war is different from having someone in our custody. We should be BETTER than the terrorists. Period.
turban26 2 years ago
Let's "shut down Joe" - what an arrogant, stupid asshole. Get him off of TV!
truthformeandyou 2 years ago
COWARDS !
ALL OF YOU !
What, give them a Cookie ?
As a True American, we don't Allow Terrorists to walk away Free !
We WILL NOT allow this Country to be attacked because of an Ideal !
Crawl back into your holes and stay there !
My GOD, Grow a PAIR !!!
53dumey 2 years ago
WOW !!
I Cannot Believe ALL the Cowardly comments here !
I got an Idea, lets give all the Terrorists a Cookie, that'll make'em Talk !
I am a True American, and We as True Americans DON'T put this Country in jeopardy by being Soft on Terrorists !
53dumey 2 years ago
The "exposure" of waterboarding is simply PR, the actual methods and details of the real torture will never be publicized, because it is too extreme for the public to accept.
There are easier methods that require no torture to make anyone tell the truth.
Subliminal programming, done properly and for long enough, can make anyone do or say anything.
A persons loyalty, religious beliefs and even sexual orientation can be changed with subliminal programming, in a matter of weeks or months.
dstone2004 2 years ago
What is wrong with u people we should do anything we could to get the truth out of these animals to protect our own! Do you think they care when their cutting off an Americans head and u people are worried about waterboarding? Let me ask u if a person kidnapped your child would u care what they had to do to him to find out where your child was? I think not and we have to remember these soldiers r someones child an we need to keep our country safe! We should never have to live thru 9-11 again!
jd2427 2 years ago 2
Joe Scarborough Defending Torture.
because he was one of bush lawyers who legalize all this.and yes waterboarding is torture.
waterboarding gives false information.look at this clip.he cut you off.well it`s his show.plus fat pat there to support him
ronbnice100 2 years ago
Joe is a totally asshole,his mouth runs like my shower.notice when he trying to make a point.endless river.and when a quest reply.he cuts you off.joe is like a tool,big baby that need mommy.one time i was watching rachel i think it was on(race to the whitehouse).rachel slam joe.then i notice joe was gone.i mean he left the set.throw his microphone down.morning joe should be call.fox and friends.we here to lie and to scare american network.
ronbnice100 2 years ago
joe is right... way to expose this liar on "torture"
sming01 2 years ago
Joe Scarborough is a cushioned blow hard who should get under the wet towel like Christopher Hitchens if he's going to rail for torture like this. Cowards should be quiet. Same with Hannity.
bberntson 2 years ago 4
Now that they KNOW what we are going to do, human nature will stop working and the natural response to the deadly threat of drowning will disappear. How much does this clown get paid to say silly things like, "that's the silliest thing I've ever heard." and "I know for a fact . . . that probably" What a bought and pocketed tool.
hornybo 2 years ago
i love how everybody is pretty much silent the whole time joe is making his rant... well other than chrystia making her comments. after seeing this, i was wondering if we would ever see another angry outburst by joe. also, i believe after this tirade, he got "sent on assignment".
GstateBALLER925 2 years ago
This guy is a bully - why have guests / others on? He just talked over her and shut her down when he didn't like what she was saying.
'Nearly drowning' people is torture. This dim wit has no idea.
bluepicka74 2 years ago 2
An MTV comic premise was produced, for Rahm Emanuel to bang his brother Ari and produce Steve-O with tatoos and one on the right cheek, for BUTTOCK HEINIKEN O'BUMBUM, for Ari to bonk Hillary and produce Wee Man, for Mike E. to clone Johnny Knoxville, and for us to take it to the bank on a BMX, about Bam's nose looking like Obama's. The next President will be named JOE, with Mika's Daddy Zbig's NOSE, biding his time until SLEEPER finally comes true, narcissistic death-queens. 360.yahoo/bobgnote
bobgnote1 2 years ago
joe is a total idiot
pedro270569 2 years ago 2
Why is Mika on the show ?
afrikannus77 2 years ago
afrikannus: obviously Mika is on the show just because she's a pretty face.
AutopsyReport22 2 years ago 2
get in line for torture behind Hannity Joe
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
God, he is such a child.
asmoohican 2 years ago 2
Joe is a figment of his own imagination. He's so wrapped up in himself he couldn't see a shitball on the end of his nose.
OneTokeOver 2 years ago
See youtube vid "Dick Cheney Torture Coverage-torture does'nt work" where intel guys in Vanity Fair article say info from Khalid Sheik Mohammed under torture was mostly "90% fucking bullshit"
Scarborough needs to read more!!! FUCKING douche!!!
henchman696 2 years ago 2
FUCK U Scarborough !!!
henchman696 2 years ago
Waterboard him Torture him and then let us see how in favor of torture this imbecile is. How anti humanity this man is and all for a buck
lababoc 2 years ago
What joe says from 8:05 on is a point that many fail to discuss in all this...if you wanna go after bush fine...but you better go after lincoln and FDR too...but the outrage isnt about beliefs and morals, its about anger towards bush and cheney.
bmillsistheman 2 years ago
If waterboarding works is that enough to justify tormenting people? I want somebody to waterboard Joe.
Staticnz 2 years ago
Joe is one of the biggest assholes on tv. (Today 3/11) he was pretending to give a shit about "Rhianna", whoever the fuck she is. He called JZ 'brother' and instructed him to "put on his rings" and go beat this clown up who smacked Rhianna around. Yeah. Like he gives a fuck. Just the way he treats and talks over his sidekick bimbo should tell you exactly how he feels about women in general. The biggest asshole? I rest my case.
Boston
bullybrown 2 years ago
Joe, sittin on his perch being his smug know-it-all prick self. He got shut down by the McCain-torture argument. Maddow shut him down too.
gilbertvb3 2 years ago
Joe Scarborough is in the CIA? How the fuck does he know anything. I actually read that top interrorgator's say torture (waterboarding) doesn't really work anyway. People who support torture need to leave the United States. True Americans would never support this shit!
austin9687 2 years ago
this one time like...I was reading something about torture and stuff...and like....heard it doesn't work and stuff, so I was like "boooo!" Then I was like telling people they aren't americans if they support waterboarding and stuff. Austin this is how you sound when you open your mouth.
assmonkey0830 2 years ago
Joe Scarborough is an arrogant ass. Tha nk God he's not in congress any longer. I like the way he switched the subject when it was mentioned the John McCain wanted to close Gitmo and thought waterboarding was torture.
proton3227 2 years ago
Joe is the most straight forward media anchor on t.v. On this issue I have to agree with Joe. These terrorists only mission in life is to kill americans. If water boarding gives the US intelligence that prevents attacks then why stop using these techniques. How else are you to get the information to prevent attacks or find terrorists. If we stop doing these things and another attack happens these liberals will have a different tune. Terrorists do not have rights that americans have.
mrmwest09 3 years ago
i don't have a problem with waterboarding an al quida guy. i have a problem with not putting pressure on israel to get out of the west bank and east jewrasalem. waterboarding and pressure on israel would save american lives. lets do both joe
tonylee1973 3 years ago
Man, Joe is such an asshole- its awesome.
akfroman 3 years ago
bunch of pussies in the liberal media... "oh no, we're "torturing ppl who WANT to kill US!" Let the the terrorists go so they can help plan another 9/11...
sming01 3 years ago
Actually, most of the people being tortured aren't 'terrorists'.
Most are people picked up on the street at random, because our government was paying bounties on people suspected of being Al Quida.
In other words, the charges were made up for most of them. That's why so many records were being destroyed at Gitmo.
The Bush family are war criminals. Plain and simple.
Numinous123 2 years ago
How do you know for sure they're not terrorists?? So you're saying we randomly pick up people on the street and throw them in gitmo?? Wow...you must be one of those idiots who watch Keith Olbermann for their propaganda.
assmonkey0830 2 years ago
Its about time someone on msnbc actually says something intelligent once in a while. Joe is the only reason why I watch msnbc, he's actually better than most of the republicans over on fox or cnn.
assmonkey0830 3 years ago 2
i agree completely, out of all the tv political personals i like joe the best.
sming01 3 years ago
We're supposed to be the good guys.
I'm not comfortable with us doing what we consider wrong because others have done what is wrong. We aer supposed to be the bastions of morality and torture is not an acceptable practice.
baresolid 3 years ago
id like to put that prick in some 'stress positions' and then ask him if its torture. or deprive him of sleep for 17 days straight and see if he even breathe properly.
Champ1on 3 years ago 3
joe speaks the turth
tauriano8 3 years ago
Let's give a hand to Sean Hannity's clone!!
Sinistertino 3 years ago 2
I'm going to very careful with my words:
Joe, go fuck yourself!!!
Leave MSNBC, take Pat with you. You guys belong in Fox News!
Your giant head full of shit needs to be waterboarded.
lv3ddip 3 years ago
No wonder your on 3 am west coast time, amateur hour.
ferkco 3 years ago
Hey listen you don't talk for me Morning Joe. You are ruining my country with your statements, torture only makes people more mad and more determined to destroy you, the soldiers have to take the brunt of your ideas. I will refuse to use all products General Electric the mothership makes. I had to wake up a 3am west coast time to see whats up or should say down with the stock market today and I have to see this. Hey how bout a idea to stop the stock market from tanking that your people caused.
ferkco 3 years ago
Joe mentions the suspension of habeas corpus by Lincoln but refuses to mention that the specific Constitutional reference to habeas corpus states that it can ONLY be suspended during times of REBELLION. Lincoln had a rebellion on his hands, Bush didn't, and even then Lincoln was roundly taken to task for doing that. Joe then also mentions providing Constitutional rights to non-citizens as though it is not right; however, many parts of the Constitution are applicable to non-citizens.
technicschic 3 years ago
lets torture the Whitehouse staff, legislation and CEO's. There all fricken liars and love to steal. We can definitely shut down the curroption. Starting with Joe.
Post4now 3 years ago 2
Lol, they "gotta go to a break" when she tries to say something, but then it can wait again for a little more until Joe gets to say all that he wants to.
I read on Mika's face: "God, when is this guy gonna get fired? How long do I have to put up with this bull$ん!七?"
areki38 3 years ago 3
Damn, the guy is totally out of his mind.
areki38 3 years ago 3
I agree with heathr's comments in the vid-description
areki38 3 years ago
Duress does not get good intelligence. Convincing your captive that you are there buddy and talking with them for hours yields results.
This has been proven over and over again.
Making a captive know you are evil and a threat to their children leads to misinformation.
il128 3 years ago 3
And yet, he is like a fresh turd to certain fly voters. These pseudo macho arm chair Rambos and sociopaths find a deep resonance in his double speak/bullshit. Bush still has 1/5 of America snugly in his back pocket. Is it any wonder this clown child has fans?
Plutonwolf 3 years ago
This is disgusting. It's sad to think that we have become a country where there is anyone in the media even advocating such barbaric practices.
frellthat 3 years ago 5
Joe Scarborough has a mouth like Clutch Cargo. (If you don't know Clutch Cargo google it)
GreatBigChangeComin 3 years ago 2
OMG...I can't believe there is someone else out there who remembers Clutch Cargo....hahahahaha...and yes, he does.
Butchsma 3 years ago
The Bush administration didn't make anyone safer. If anything we are less safe, embassy bombings still happened under Bush, and we have more enemies than we had before 9/11.
phoenixatom 3 years ago 3
I'd love to force Joe Scarborough into a few weeks of sleep deprivation, and see him to not call it torture. Water boarding, stress positioins, "electric stimulation"(aka electroshock torture)...these are techniques out of the Communist Chinese torture handbook designed specifically to get false confessions.
phoenixatom 3 years ago 3
i've said it b4 and i will say it again: Joe is a sexist! He always talks above women and act as if they cannot think past there emotions.
I find him always cutting of a woman who disagrees with him, to talk to a man and asks if he agrees. WHen he does, he continues on without the woman making her point..as if the man says it so it is true.
This man is a full on sexist and he doesn't even think he is. he has th idea that women r 2 emotional 2 lead..
bow2jade 3 years ago 2
Its funny how christians can sometimes be the most evil...and think its ok.
bow2jade 3 years ago
ha! is joe the dumber somewhat related to Bill'o the clown cause only shit comes from their mouth. If I were the producer of the show I tell this idiot to listen before he goes on mumbling about his neocon philosophy. I am disgusted at such being. so sad that he is the main person of the show.
maximus0032 3 years ago 3
one word.. arrogant. That you even have to have this debate in a western country is just pathetic.
olof790217 3 years ago
Morning Joe would be a great show if they would just can Scarborough!
loki3692 3 years ago
then it would just be "morning"?
highway234 3 years ago
It would be "The Morning Show" It goes right with NBC/MSNBC's "The Today Show" "The Tonight Show" and "The Late Show"
loki3692 3 years ago
whatever gets scarborough off the air is all right with me. :D
although he has a point that the dems signed off on torture too. i really think that's why pelosi took impeachment "off the table." but when he says waterboarding "suddenly became morally reprehensible" and says that torture works, i get queasy. i got the impression lately scarborough was trying to moderate his rhetoric but i guess not.
highway234 3 years ago
I wish Mika would poke Scarborough in the eye when he says things like that. He's such an asshole. Who gives people like that TV shows anyway? It's just propaganda. Thank the gods for the internet!
eggnoggerino 3 years ago
say it aint so joe. he knows what is and is not
torture. let him rewrite the geneva convention.
RL36D 3 years ago 2
Scarborough should have himself waterboarded like Christopher Hitchens did, and see how he feels about it then. Think he has the balls?
Turambar88 3 years ago 2
I think it's important for people to know that Scarborough is a murderer. Of course, as a powerful rich white man, he got away with it.
newmanfrigan 3 years ago
Please elaborate.
loki3692 3 years ago
Scarborough is a joke
Turambar88 3 years ago
Joe, you have officially lost any credibility with me.
The fact is, Joe, we as Americans are supposed to be better than that.
If some of us die because of our higher ideals, so be it.
Because we will be right.
It is asinine to claim that because, "no terror attacks have happened since 9/11", torture works.
9/11 should have never been allowed to happen in the first place.
Are all Republicans crazy?
Their arguments are so frustrating, because they don't see their own hypocrisy.
VenicDred 3 years ago 3
Well that was entertaining..
geojus1 3 years ago 2
Oh, for Pete's sake, Joe. Give it a rest.
Your cliche of beating up women and all this constant bitching.
Ms. Freeling has a good point, you know.
BKDevious 3 years ago 2
Its sophomoric to think that America shouldn't engage in extreme sleep deprivation, which can result in death?
theblakelvis 3 years ago
Joe, Joe, Joe. Thank goodness you're there protecting America. Who protected Lori Klausutis, who died in your office soon after your unexpected resignation from Congress, after a divorce and rumors of infidelity? Who protected Dr. David Gunn? Not good old Morning Joe - he was busy giving pro bono protection to Dr. Gunn's murderer, Michael Griffin.
This pile of rotting right-wing rhetoric smells from any distance.
47f0 3 years ago 2
Joe Scarborough is a piece of crap.
tommyc6066 3 years ago 4
Joe cracks me up....knowing that you are not going to be killed has no effect on the torture. water boarding works because it is the body reacts and bleeds into the mind. given enough torture you will beg for death.
Mahoivlich 3 years ago 2
Scarborough is just an idiot. I don't know Krystia Freeland but everything she says is backed up by actual fact whereas Joe is just talking out of his ass.
SpanishForkOutcast 3 years ago 4
Joe is full of shit. After 911 the general public was all about resolve. Go get Bin Laden. We didn't hear shit about water-boarding let alone what it actually meant until later. At THAT time the people spoke up and said it was torture after we found out what water-boarding actually was. The thing is Joe, it IS 7 years later, we didn't do shit about the 911 masterminds and we proved to the world we are hypocrites. You cannot defend torture and expect the rest of the world to take you seriously.
egrimnes 3 years ago 2
Joe Scarborough is a caricature.
skchen831 3 years ago
On 'Morning Joe', Jan 13, 2009, Joe Scarborough likened the torturing of Khalid Sheik Mohammed to pouring a pitcher of ice tea over his head. In this clip, the former Republican Congressman from Florida asks, "How do you define torture?" Answer: Watching this misogynistic idiot go on a rant while Mika Brzenzinski appears to be biting her tongue! Zbigniew Brzezinski's comment that Scarborough's views are "stunningly superficial" is once again applicable.
konekufpictures 3 years ago
I think your a terrorist Joe. Does that mean I can come kick in your door and shoot you dead? Infact, lets just say EVERYONE on FOX news is a terrorist, against the American people. Lets kill em. They're only terrorists after all.....
blupheonix44 3 years ago
Bring in Zbigs to roll this clown again. All he can do is talk over people.
billthebutcher2 3 years ago
So, here's the proof. USA DOES torture. How am I expected to feel sorry for 9/11 and your losses, when all over the world you kill people, torture and Mame without repercussions.? You deserved 9/11, and you should see more attacks on your home soil, if you choose to not play fair with the rest of us.
blupheonix44 3 years ago
Joe, you are a complete asshole, period.
Pat you can't judge by something that didn't happen. You don't know the reason it didn't happen. 911 was the Hiroshima of al Quada. The devastation and the subsequent turmoil which continues to this moment is their goal. They don't need to ever attack again, they accomplished the worse attack on this country since the Revolutionary War. That they haven't attacked again is an incredibly stupid argument. How we deal with it is what matters.
GreatBigChangeComin 3 years ago
MSNBC can do better - much better - than Scarborough. What a freaking idiot.
boppiecat 3 years ago 3
why not just waterboard Joe and see how he feels about it afterwards?
almamatters2471 3 years ago 2
Get Joe off the air.
Give Miss Mika her own show.
Peace.
baronmorris 3 years ago 6
"I'll tell you off the air?"...That was an interesting way to evade the opinion of a man who actually does know what hes talking about...John McCain.
charlie44444 3 years ago 2
Joe, where is your proof that waterboarding has given us so much useful intel? Name one person we arrested/killed? Name one plot foiled. Something. Anything. Guess what? YOU CAN'T! You're taking the word of Bush admin officials who have been parroting this line to save their own ASSES! So again, I ask, name someone, something, some plot ANY FUCKING THING we learned of from waterboarding ANYBODY! Fact is, the guy who waterboarded KSM said they got the best intel when they played NICE with him.
FattKidd 3 years ago 3
A-fucking-men.
GreatBigChangeComin 3 years ago
Morning Joe has watched too much 24. This guy has no credibility to talk about anything besides Florida politics.
gobacktoalaska 3 years ago 7
This comment has received too many negative votes show
JOE SPEAKS THE TRUTH. THANK GOD.
phpincus 3 years ago
which God is it that one thanks for torture?
baronmorris 3 years ago 4
Who let this jackass on TV? Whomever did needs their ass kicked!
FattKidd 3 years ago 6
my god, i used to think Joe as a reasonable conservative..he's a cunt, a semen drinking cocksucker
bbbaz11 3 years ago 6
well-said. ;-)
baronmorris 3 years ago
Ah Morning Joe, your narrow little view is a comfort to you. And damn Mika, stating an original opinion? Bout time girl.
437thx1138 3 years ago 4
What a thuggish bully. Take him off the air. He's an embarrassment.
charlesf 3 years ago 6
what the hell is this guy's problem... simple rule. we don't FORCE information from people.
We don't use try to scare information from them, or do anything physical to get information from them.
In our damn constitution it says we don't subject people to unusual and cruel punishment... And Joe used to be in congress.. this is scary...
RedPandaBoy 3 years ago 3
joe is definitely intimated by strong women. he's a joke on his own show. i thought it especially humorous when he referenced when mika's dad, zbigniew brzezinski, smacked him down.
2follow2 3 years ago
Scarborough is a scumbag
varange2 3 years ago 2
Joe, there is no evidence that torturing people held off any attacks. What is true is that Bush & Cheney knew "bin laden determined to strike" & it happened on their watch. Waterboarding was deemed torture by Americans against WW2 Japan. Joe doesn't know that. He's a tool making up fake facts for the worst elements of elite corporate royalism. We're awake now. Fire this guy.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
What a piece of shit Joe Scarborough is, not only is his opinion on torture in itself disgusting, but the way he deals with those who disagree with him is just indefensible. What an asshole!
Olympion 3 years ago 2
call 212 664 4444- ask (politely) for the MSNBC COMMENT LINE and tell them to FIRE JOE SCARBOROUGH. He advocated torture. On the Air. The prime directive from George Washington is America does not torture. Fire Scarborugh. Give them a call.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago
Someone ask Joe if its ok to waterboard Anti-Abortion activists because they might have knowledge of abortion clinic attacks.
xdir 3 years ago 9
I think Joe is still butt hurt from Meeka's dad making him look like a fool.
burntonion05 3 years ago 8
That's exactly what I was thinking whike watching this.
natedogg77 3 years ago
Joe Scarborough is a moron.
BlackKingX 3 years ago 10
I am appalled! To all non-americans watching, eventually we shall overcome the tyranny of the neoconservative mentality, idiots like joe scarborough will be swept away into the history books, and America will become a great nation lead by great men and women once again. CHANGE.
nittle90 3 years ago 13
one european here sure hopes youre right, the majority i met in the us were very decent people, and i failed to understand how those people got so powerful/influental.
america never was so beloved and dreamed of because of their military power, but for the freedom you find there and their moral compass.
armatus99 3 years ago 4
I second that. To all citizens around the world, Scarborough is paid by a type of elite that values money above all else. We are awake now. We will work to marginalize these people. Forgive us for sleeping so long. America does NOT condone torture.
Corporations8MyBaby 3 years ago