this happend to me once, when i got to the house of salavation during the palmacosta visit, i was asked to save chocalat i sayed wait until we finish the seals, and after i made it to the isailea human ranch, it was destroyed, iether it was a glitch, or it was part of the story
it's most likely the planned on having dirks house very close to iselia, and planned on it being destroyed by the desians. would have been cool if they left it like that... I wanted to see lloyd go on a desian killing spree :(
I know in the Tales of Destiny Remake, they have TEN working slots in the party menu so you can hack Leon into your party in the second half of the game and have EVERY character. (I've done it.)
In the description, scenario 3 would be impossible because the tower of salvation that crumbled was in Tethe'alla and the debris only hit Heimdall and the surrounding area. The tower of salvation in Sylvarant had already disappeared before all that.
My theory is that, when the earthquake that occurs when all of the summon spirits are released, and the giant tree goes out of control, the earthquake actually destroys his Dirk's house, killing him, and the scene where the group takes Colette back to his house after passing out at the Iselia Ranch where he explains it had no effect because of the hard bedrock, never occured. I believe this was the original story, but was shortly replaced to save time.
So you used a hack to find a version of Dirk's house that is destroyed?
What I'm mainly getting at is, There's no natural occurrence in the game that can trigger Dirk's house to get destroyed right?? I've played through this game 11 times from start to finish and I've never seen this happen. :|
Haha lol I bet Kratos got angry that Lloyd grew up so stupid and blamed Dirk. So he got some angel friends with bows and attacked. That's why the grave is also unharmed, haha just kidding.
I think that the Desians attacked Dirk's house when they found out that Lloyd infiltrated the Iselia Ranch by contacting Marble and attacking Forcystus' guards. So they attacked Dirk's house since they saw him go into the opposite way of the village. After they attacked Dirk's house while Genis and Lloyd went to Iselia to try and catch up with Colette, they realised Lloyd wasn't there so they attacked Iselia. They did not harm Anna's grave because, only the Desians were there and not Forcystus.
wait, but if the Desians attacked Dirk's house after Lloyd infiltrated the Ranch, then how come it's still there later in the game? or...just a random extra?!?
there were cracks and dents in the ground which is similar to the crack in the house. Since the house was made of wood it would be easy to demolish the staircase and the upper floor which the Desians could have easily done. And if it was an earthquake shouldn't it have demolished Anna's grave aswell?...
I don't think the Desians actually know about Anna stealing the exsphere from the angelus project only the grand cardinals know. The cracks in the house could have been the Desians because, when the Desians attacked Luin,
They had to have made it early. I'm guessing it has to do with the ranch myself. It would be weird for them to change something like this midway through, and still have it in.
Or else, it was planned for the very near end, then dumped. Either way, this would be too much of a change in story, I would believe.
the ninth slot could have been because they never intended sheena to go to the mama cannon alone. witch explains the 9th slot and the fact that there is an inside to the mana cannon. so all 9 charecter would go to the isealia rance and all 9 would go to the mana cannon? just a thought :/
Yes, a good theory. I thought something along the lines of that as well, but was more like "Kratos joins the party before Sheena leaves", which proved false, so I discarded the idea. The way you thought up makes sense, though. :) Could very well be true.
Oh shush. <3 I've moved my way around such trivial matters since the making of this video. No one has to be wounded or killed anymore, and we can all beat Yggy to a pulp together like it should be.
And of COURSE they made it. I haven't even laid eyes on a 3D modeler yet, and the level of hacking for ToS isn't high enough to modify the map itself. So this is all made by Namco-- they were just too lazy to remove it.
Well, I'm not done mapping out the values for the exit modifier, so I can't say if this map is actually grouped with the normal Dirk's House maps, but chances are that it is. My theory as to why they made it are in the video DESCRIPTION, which is what everyone should be reading instead of just posting a question. o_o 'Cause the point is, it wasn't taken out of the game and they had every intention of using it.
I know, I know. I read it, but couldn't quite get it.
Maybe they couldn't find what to do after making it? Like, maybe they couldn't find a storyline past that. I mean, what would have happened to Dirk? Without him, how could the Eternal Ring have been made and stuff?
The people who made ToS are creative. They could have made a storyline for it, which is what my theories are. Whether Dirk got out okay or not is another turning point in itself. ... I had a brainstorm right at that second. I'm going to update the description with the Dirk theory. Please check it later.
The only PROGRAM that I use for this is an encrypter, which you can download pretty much anywhere for free.
... The only other tool that you need to do this amatuer level of hacking is an Action Replay, sweetie. O_o Which is by no means free.
I'm going to end up demanding to speak one-on-one with the guy who set up the Kratos vs. Zelos fight and ask him what tools he used, so hopefully we can get into a higher level of hacking for ToS. But first thing is first: Finish mapping all the values.
</3 Aw, don't worry. ... However, if you're torn about having to choose between the awesomeness of Kratos and Zelos, I may have some relief for you. :3 PM if you're interested.
Like I said, I'll edit the descriptions with the codes after I have all of the values mapped out. Sadly, there are a LOT of maps for ToS. ... Over 200, man, and I've already done over 150.. But, you have to understand, I don't just sit around with spare time on my hands anymore. I don't have as much time to map these things out as I used to.
I mean, I understand, you used a hack. but did you need to input a code in action replay or is it special software..? what I meant was how did you get this hack?
XD Thank you for not saying where it is. Would spoil the surprise for those who don't know. But it just confuses me why, if it were an attack, they'd destroy everything but Anna's grave... It's not like the Desians have respect for her. But I suppose it's a good thing.
That was cool. I wish I had codes like this, since I like screwing with my games. X3 And if you need AR too bad for me cuz I bought the new crappy version! >.<
this happend to me once, when i got to the house of salavation during the palmacosta visit, i was asked to save chocalat i sayed wait until we finish the seals, and after i made it to the isailea human ranch, it was destroyed, iether it was a glitch, or it was part of the story
guitarband16 1 year ago
How, may I ask, do you hack the game? And is there really a ninth spot (for another character)?
MissEMIxox 1 year ago
Surprised this didn't happen in the game, seeing as how Dirk's house is so close to Iselia when the Desians attacked.
FunnyLilCat 2 years ago
Oh god, how much I'd want to have both Zelos and Kratos in the party... The manga was excellent on that.
It's sad to see stuff abandonned like that :/
Thanks for sharing anyway, I love to see all of this! I'd love to do it too.
SummonerShiina 2 years ago
it's most likely the planned on having dirks house very close to iselia, and planned on it being destroyed by the desians. would have been cool if they left it like that... I wanted to see lloyd go on a desian killing spree :(
Xfighter100 2 years ago 2
how do i get an exit modifier?
10zachhenninger 2 years ago
Couldn't a 9th slot exist for debugging purposes?
I know in the Tales of Destiny Remake, they have TEN working slots in the party menu so you can hack Leon into your party in the second half of the game and have EVERY character. (I've done it.)
Meteo121 2 years ago 5
Zelos and Kratos in the same party... I would totally love that :O
xStarCandii 2 years ago 2
Mana Canon lol ~ I played this game to many times xD
KratosAurion777 2 years ago
Did they originally want to destroy Dirk's house or something? Wtf?
echeloncrow 2 years ago
This would've sucked so much if it really did happen in the game.
Webberjo 2 years ago 3
...YAY FOR DIRK DEATH :D ...sorry dirk fans...
KamonPeachFox 2 years ago
it would have been a cool little addon to the story if that happend
daniel13789 3 years ago
In the description, scenario 3 would be impossible because the tower of salvation that crumbled was in Tethe'alla and the debris only hit Heimdall and the surrounding area. The tower of salvation in Sylvarant had already disappeared before all that.
Superduck779 3 years ago 5
My theory is that, when the earthquake that occurs when all of the summon spirits are released, and the giant tree goes out of control, the earthquake actually destroys his Dirk's house, killing him, and the scene where the group takes Colette back to his house after passing out at the Iselia Ranch where he explains it had no effect because of the hard bedrock, never occured. I believe this was the original story, but was shortly replaced to save time.
moogle24x 3 years ago
i played this game andbeat it every time and i never seen this happen
QTdiMmPL3Ss 3 years ago
dude its a hack. u cant get this in the game without hacking but hacking kills the game a lot
terpauli 3 years ago
So you used a hack to find a version of Dirk's house that is destroyed?
What I'm mainly getting at is, There's no natural occurrence in the game that can trigger Dirk's house to get destroyed right?? I've played through this game 11 times from start to finish and I've never seen this happen. :|
LordYggdrasill 3 years ago
If there was, there'd be FAQs about it, hun. xD There's no way someone would miss it for this long. This is unused.
StrongTomorrow 3 years ago
Wow...
Poor Dirk...
StrengthTomorrow 3 years ago
Wait on the map on the cities and towns are grey? Did you hack?
forgot010 3 years ago
.. Grey? O_o What?? But.. of course.
StrongTomorrow 3 years ago
But then how would Lloyd get the material blade nearly at the end of the game??
extartus 3 years ago
Haha lol I bet Kratos got angry that Lloyd grew up so stupid and blamed Dirk. So he got some angel friends with bows and attacked. That's why the grave is also unharmed, haha just kidding.
WTFMuffined 3 years ago 3
no, what if he caught onto one of his parents? lol, jk. nice joke! XD
LOLTOSANIME 3 years ago
cool
TobiDDR 3 years ago
how did you get this to happen in the game?
Chii300 3 years ago
action replay
Ph0t017 3 years ago
Assume the numbers are the boxes below because I messed up my order:
1.- first paragraph
3.- third paragraph
2.- second paragraph
That's my suggestion which makes a good logic...
Phil4ce 3 years ago
I think that the Desians attacked Dirk's house when they found out that Lloyd infiltrated the Iselia Ranch by contacting Marble and attacking Forcystus' guards. So they attacked Dirk's house since they saw him go into the opposite way of the village. After they attacked Dirk's house while Genis and Lloyd went to Iselia to try and catch up with Colette, they realised Lloyd wasn't there so they attacked Iselia. They did not harm Anna's grave because, only the Desians were there and not Forcystus.
Phil4ce 3 years ago
wait, but if the Desians attacked Dirk's house after Lloyd infiltrated the Ranch, then how come it's still there later in the game? or...just a random extra?!?
LOLTOSANIME 3 years ago
there were cracks and dents in the ground which is similar to the crack in the house. Since the house was made of wood it would be easy to demolish the staircase and the upper floor which the Desians could have easily done. And if it was an earthquake shouldn't it have demolished Anna's grave aswell?...
Phil4ce 3 years ago
I don't think the Desians actually know about Anna stealing the exsphere from the angelus project only the grand cardinals know. The cracks in the house could have been the Desians because, when the Desians attacked Luin,
Phil4ce 3 years ago
if that is action replay can u give me a site with more rare codes no usual
joey334000 3 years ago
They had to have made it early. I'm guessing it has to do with the ranch myself. It would be weird for them to change something like this midway through, and still have it in.
Or else, it was planned for the very near end, then dumped. Either way, this would be too much of a change in story, I would believe.
BaneTK 4 years ago
lol thats funny at the end zelos spins around
i can just hear him saying WTF?!
superbuggy222 4 years ago
Aw... I wonder what exactly they were planning to have happen to Dirk. Did they just plan to ruin his house or kill him off too?
Hmm. This sort of thing makes you wonder... what other secrets was NAMCO keeping that we don't know about...
CrazyboutToS 4 years ago
NO dirk he was a.......... AMERICAN HERO
Cortez5545899T3 4 years ago 3
How did u get a glitch like that?
that's so amazing i want to try that out now can u show me please!!!!!!
RaineSage11 4 years ago
what is this
redswordsman28 4 years ago
Take the obvious guess: Read the video description. I don't post without detail.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
sorry, okay then how do you get into exit modifiers
redswordsman28 4 years ago
the ninth slot could have been because they never intended sheena to go to the mama cannon alone. witch explains the 9th slot and the fact that there is an inside to the mana cannon. so all 9 charecter would go to the isealia rance and all 9 would go to the mana cannon? just a thought :/
gibbsy13 4 years ago
Yes, a good theory. I thought something along the lines of that as well, but was more like "Kratos joins the party before Sheena leaves", which proved false, so I discarded the idea. The way you thought up makes sense, though. :) Could very well be true.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
The brainstorm is thanks to me? Really...? XD
LianaUchiha 4 years ago
I agree. The OVA will probably end with both of them. It'll probably be Colette at Flanoir if they get there. (Probably will, too)
So, if that's so, both will live, and Zelos will be in the party, and Kratos at Dirk's, unless they edit the OVA even more
LianaUchiha 4 years ago
NOOOOO! Not another person who likes Kratos more than ZELOS! *Cries* I dun like Zelos dying!
(In other words... DON'T! O_O)
Me wuff me Zelos...
Anyway, did Namco really make all this stuff, like, the things for it, or what? I'm all confused XD
LianaUchiha 4 years ago
Oh shush. <3 I've moved my way around such trivial matters since the making of this video. No one has to be wounded or killed anymore, and we can all beat Yggy to a pulp together like it should be.
And of COURSE they made it. I haven't even laid eyes on a 3D modeler yet, and the level of hacking for ToS isn't high enough to modify the map itself. So this is all made by Namco-- they were just too lazy to remove it.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
NUUUUU! 'Yiggy' happens to be my favorite character! XD (Mithos, Yggdrasil... WHATEVER! XD)
Why, did they just do it the first time around with making it? Then took it out of the actual game?
LianaUchiha 4 years ago
Well, I'm not done mapping out the values for the exit modifier, so I can't say if this map is actually grouped with the normal Dirk's House maps, but chances are that it is. My theory as to why they made it are in the video DESCRIPTION, which is what everyone should be reading instead of just posting a question. o_o 'Cause the point is, it wasn't taken out of the game and they had every intention of using it.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
I know, I know. I read it, but couldn't quite get it.
Maybe they couldn't find what to do after making it? Like, maybe they couldn't find a storyline past that. I mean, what would have happened to Dirk? Without him, how could the Eternal Ring have been made and stuff?
Oh, could you download the program for free?
LianaUchiha 4 years ago
The people who made ToS are creative. They could have made a storyline for it, which is what my theories are. Whether Dirk got out okay or not is another turning point in itself. ... I had a brainstorm right at that second. I'm going to update the description with the Dirk theory. Please check it later.
The only PROGRAM that I use for this is an encrypter, which you can download pretty much anywhere for free.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
Well, what about the editor? Is it free? I'd like to be able to use it on my comp. some day.
Yes, I will look at it later
LianaUchiha 4 years ago
... The only other tool that you need to do this amatuer level of hacking is an Action Replay, sweetie. O_o Which is by no means free.
I'm going to end up demanding to speak one-on-one with the guy who set up the Kratos vs. Zelos fight and ask him what tools he used, so hopefully we can get into a higher level of hacking for ToS. But first thing is first: Finish mapping all the values.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
Darn... I want to download the program thing for me. And what're you so mad about?
I feel like messing with the game myself XD
LianaUchiha 4 years ago
I'm not angry about anything. o_o What gave you that idea?
Anyways, let's move this to messages, shall we? This is hardly the place for small talk. >.>
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
You giving that face after saying sweeting...
Well, I suppose so
LianaUchiha 4 years ago
loool coment tu fais?
killerdu92 4 years ago
I'm so mad. I killed Zelos. D:
But nice skillz.
Kakashi2girl 4 years ago
</3 Aw, don't worry. ... However, if you're torn about having to choose between the awesomeness of Kratos and Zelos, I may have some relief for you. :3 PM if you're interested.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
Did you do so on purpose, or did you not know?
I always take Zelos out at Flanoir, so I have nothing to worry about XD
I know EXACTLY how to get Zelos to like you most before Flanoir, even before the second disk. (How do I know!? I DID IT! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! XD)
LianaUchiha 4 years ago
what is goinng on here is namco hide something >_>
leonidash15 4 years ago
How do u change the game on Gamecube / How u hack? / or whatever... Please tell me looks fun! =]
Halo9994 4 years ago
I wonder if they also had plans for Dirk to be killed. Poor Lloyd would go psycho.
HikaruIrving 4 years ago 2
Ok ok yes I read the description.
But how did you do the hack part? AR code? ...Right?
xgravitationfanx 4 years ago
Like I said, I'll edit the descriptions with the codes after I have all of the values mapped out. Sadly, there are a LOT of maps for ToS. ... Over 200, man, and I've already done over 150.. But, you have to understand, I don't just sit around with spare time on my hands anymore. I don't have as much time to map these things out as I used to.
However, yes, it was an AR code.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
Hey, I found a site with a huge list of these, up to 221, actually...Tehehe ^-^;; With all the lettery ones and numbery ones.
xgravitationfanx 4 years ago
... I'm a fucking pissed off Kya now. Hand it over or I'll go into psycho bitch mode. ;-;
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
Oh do you want the link? I'm not sure if they're all correct..I'll send it to you in a message :]
xgravitationfanx 4 years ago
hahaha yeah and the sword dancer too
because dirk was a stupid worm and he ate onnions
ShaGuiTo64 4 years ago
the truth about this place
it was destroyed by big foot xD!!
ShaGuiTo64 4 years ago
Totally. D: And those bears we see on the Ossa Trail? TOTALLY bigfoot's children. <3
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
I mean, I understand, you used a hack. but did you need to input a code in action replay or is it special software..? what I meant was how did you get this hack?
cheesegraterco 4 years ago
I'll be revealing it to youtube after I have all the values mapped out. Next two videos will be out by later tonight, though.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
how'd you do that?
cheesegraterco 4 years ago
PAY ATTENTION TO THE DESCRIPTION.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
Oh oh I know!!!
i know where it is!!!
lol hurray and post it if u havent already! :3
HatakeSage 4 years ago
Oh,oh, I know where the preview is gonna be! *-*
*hops around like hermione granger*
Nice hacking, though .. AT LEAST Anna's Grave is well ^^
C-A
CatMuto 4 years ago
XD Thank you for not saying where it is. Would spoil the surprise for those who don't know. But it just confuses me why, if it were an attack, they'd destroy everything but Anna's grave... It's not like the Desians have respect for her. But I suppose it's a good thing.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
when does the house get destroyed i dont remember that in tales of symphonia or is it for ps2? or what
Royalewithchese 4 years ago
Pay ATTENTION to the description. It's not just pointless ranting.
StrongTomorrow 4 years ago
That was cool. I wish I had codes like this, since I like screwing with my games. X3 And if you need AR too bad for me cuz I bought the new crappy version! >.<
Sakuraberry 4 years ago
That would have been pretty cool in the game, too.
I would have to think that they made it for maybe in the beginning with the Town catching on fire, that maybe the Desians got to Dirk's, too.
*shrug*
It's interesting what all they did for possible other storylines.
Ediction 4 years ago
This was interesting to see. :)
Krelian89 4 years ago