Art Jewelry - Setting a cabochon in a bezel part 2

[LEMONSQUEAKER]

Is there a video on how to trim up the bezel setting and attach a bail on the piece? I looked everywhere and didn't find it.

[elsaalcocer1]

congratulations this is an excellent totorial u are the best professor to teach bigginer thanks

[cheverie100]

@artjewelrymag Are you familiar with silver metal clay? I am wondering if the same setting technique could be applied when using silver clay. My intention was to fire the clay onto the stone but I'm reluctant to fire the stone and clay together. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[artjewelrymag]

@cheverie100 Lapidary cabochons are not good candidates for withstanding the heat of kiln firing. Typically, metal clay artists embed fine silver bezel wire in the metal clay back plate, fire the back plate, and then set the cabochon as is demonstrated in the videos. For more information, head over to our website; we have tons of info on how to work with metal clay under our Projects and Resources tabs.

[farang]

Neat video, well made and interesting to watch. But, did I miss part 1.5 or something? Because you never demonstrated forming the bezel wire from video 1.....

[artjewelrymag]

@farang There are two series of videos we've made, one on "Making a Bezel," and this one on" Setting a Cabochon in a Bezel." Were you mixing them up, possibly?

[Aerosolik]

sorrry I must to vrite something.. Your settings is very very bad! Is to much material for pushing to stoned! and the techinik is wrong becouse this material is vetry scratch..mammy!!!!!

[artjewelrymag]

@Aerosolik Yes, those are good points. It's easier to use more material and exaggerate movements to demonstrate the tiny nuances of jewelry-making techniques in a video. And of course I would clean up the scratches if it were a piece of jewelry and not just for a video demonstration. But the principles are the same & are enough to teach people.Then they can improve their own piece. Thanks for your critique. It's good to know there are fellow jewelers out there who are concerned with quality. :)

[kzfletcher1]

@artjewelrymag I am very impressed with the professionalism of your response to this critique, especially considering its poor wording and poor use of English!

[pjsterling925]

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[pjsterling925]

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[UNWRITTENUNKNOWN]

how do you set a triangular flat stone in a bezel?

I have my mother's pendant from 30 years ago, and she wants me to fix it, because it is a little out of shape.

It is about 4mm thick i think, i know how to set a round stone, but i don't know how to set a flat stone without covering it to the top. I want the bezel to olnly cover half of the thickness of the stone, not all the way up.

could you please tell me how.

[artjewelrymag]

Is this a rounded cabochon stone? Meaning from the top down it's a triangle shape, but from the side it looks like a dome?

If so, then you'd measure your bezel precisely and solder it in place - checking for fit frequently. Then, before you set your stone, you'd grind off a little of the bezel metal at each corner - this helps you avoid uneven corners with excess metal. Push down the corners first, then push down the straight walls. Tighten everything up and burnish.

Good luck!

[clairsentient]

Would you say that when using sterling silver this technique wouldn't be advisable for beginners(AKA me) due to the metal being harder?

[artjewelrymag]

Yeah, that's pretty accurate. Fine silver is harder, and therefore more difficult to push and burnish into place than fine silver. But it's certainly not impossible. Give it a try-you may surprise yourself!

[Emoay00]

Thanks for keeping jewellery at such a low standard by encouraging viewers to learn from books, rather than enrolling in a course where they may learn many current techniques, not only jewellery techniques from the 18th century... All we need is more cabochon fine silver pendants.

[katievhoneychurch]

this is a great video better than a class and free!

[janetwrightreadings]

Well I'm a super newbie at all this. I've taken a few weeks of a jewelry class so far so this is a nice first look at this subject for me. I think the close up shots on this video are much better than other videos I've seen. Also the explanations are clear. Thank you.

[artjewelrymag]

Glad to hear that our videos have helped you. You're going to have so much fun setting stones!

[utooth]

You also need to hold the bezel more firmly in a setters wax on a handle. then setting will be much easier. The handle makes getting to every side easy and pressing it against your bench block keeps it secure.

your viewers need to read a good book on setting and jewellery making. I suggest getting a small library of jewellery books to have a rounded understanding of setting and making techniques.

[chillgirlette]

utooth - do you have a good book that you would recommend starting with? I am just starting metal fabrication so it's all new - normally work in wax although I've never cast my own designs (I'll save that for later). I am mainly starting with silver since it's cheaper than gold, but eventually want to get back into waxing, casting fine jewellery in gold...you seem like you're very experienced and I would appreciate the advice

[utooth]

chillgirlette

there are so many good books out there that you can't go wrong if you choose one written by a jeweller not just a pretty book.... try Jewellery making manual by Silvia Wicks..

Google jewellery making and you should also find some good web sites regards Utooth

[artjewelrymag]

You're right - setter's wax is a more secure way of holding a setting. But I'm not a fan of the cleanup.

It's nice to know that in a field as large as jewelry-making there are plenty of ways to go about the same technique. If something works for you, use it! :)

[artjewelrymag]

Stone setting is such a large area of expertise. Some people make a living doing nothing but setting stones. This video is only a quick glimpse of one way to do one technique. Books, workshops, classes, and of course magazines are great resources to learn more.

[utooth]

Your setting method is painful to watch. use a bezel roller wider than the one you don't like. You may need to make one as most jewellers find store bought unsatisfactory. Your bezel should at no time have creases in it as you have shown.

There are good books out there... buy one and you too will improve...

Trust me good technique and tools are essential. Read and practice..

Thanks for posting your video so others can comment and some can learn.

[1axvn]

I always scar the bezel when I use steel, so I now just use the side if the jewelers bench, its big Hevy and hard. you can roll as you go adn it will flaten out any weinkels in the bezal silver.

This vid gets a 4.5

1axvn