"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them." the lord has lead and guided biz to do everything he has done, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with what biz has done, it's a shame more are not willing to do it too. You act like every song he has released is about jay. We are SOLDIERS for Christ, and if you don't wanna stand up and fight for him in this spiritual battle then so be it, it's just sad that you, a "christian" are defending a satanist over a
yo bro you need to kno there not rummors jayz calls him selfs a mason and say its return of his god callin the devl god the devil is not GOD jayz knows what he is doing and dosnt care he sayd hed sell his soul for a mill were not mean let it stream stay away from mainstream there on satans team they dream and sceam of one day over throwin the father and jayz need to be killed soory bought you just like elijah kill the false profites GOD says dont let no fowl roots grow up to defil many
cruz what I dont understand is you stand up for Jay-Z while throwing a fellow brother under the bus to look better to a world that already hates us...i mean I can see your address to the approach but labeling people who dont like these videos as Bizzle fanatics... is like creating beef bro. I love you and your music but cant get with you on this one
i understand. but do you think he's listen any otherway? in darkness, you really cannot see the light. i mean you are right, there are other ways of going about preaching the word. yes there are many people who contradict themselves, saying they are christian, but not actually carrying it out in the christian manner. but at least he's trying in some way.
wow, u guys are askin and not catchin dudes (cordero's) point or perspective.....it doesnt matter now tho.....its in the past both hav been changd by God, u see it bizzles new tracks....
were u paid to come on youtube and and talk bad about bizzle or are u a jay z fan defending jay z.....or you just dont like new age christian rappers/singers cuz you like how things use to be done?.. i mean,what are you doing to make ppl informed about the evils out in the world and jesus?.whats motive u have saying mean things about bizzle? u dont want us to listen to him no more? are u saying hes a devil,a liar and we cant trust him....are u jealous cause he has a lot of hype/fame?
hey derocdero yo i feel you man but that aint gossip.. There true! basically truth music.. Even some of my co workers say they b doing strange stuff in there videos.W e can also say that your a gossiper as well. But thats not your heart intent. Your conveying what you see as true.. Bizzle got some ways to go as a new believer.. Coach him what to do.. Do these things in LOVE! If this were the case then all churches would be labeled as gossipers because they speak on things of the world rebuking.
@derocdero So what video where you watchin? It doesnt look like Bizzle wasnt spreading any lies or gossip to me. Bizzle was exposing TRUTH. Havent you heard the new free mason song by Jayz and Rick Ross. As an example Jesus addressed the pharisees. They couldnt handle it either. The bible says that we have the power to speak life or death. It also says that we should also test the scriptures. Last but not least the bible says that all music is. to glorify God.
@derocdero So what video where you watchin? It doesnt look like Bizzle wasnt spreading any lies or gossip to me. Bizzle was exposing TRUTH. Havent you heard the new free mason song by Jayz and Rick Ross. As an example Jesus addressed the pharisees. They couldnt handle it either. The bible says that we have the power to speak life or death. It also says that we should also test the scriptures. Last but not least the bible says that all music is. to glorify God.
@derocdero no we just dont believe this guy going in a fellow christan who desires to be like christ none of use are perfect we cannot be and we need to seek to be perfect GOD says dont let no fowl roots grow up to defil many what bizzle sayd is the truth lisent to jayzs song he say return of the god mason devils pot im comin for you open you eyes stay aways from mainstream there on satans team use every word to magnifie the lord and all glory to the KING ON THE THRONE AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD
@derocdero im not reaching you are since when did Jesus tell anyone to put one another down or defend someone who isnt living for God against someone who is trying to and is addressing something they feel needs to be addressed bizzle isnt doing anything physically harming the man he just spoke on a matter that needed to be addressed let me inform you on the man your defending the very same man who said in the song state of the empire that Christ cant save you life begins wen the church ends
@bigscrappy1 Actually, Jesus defended the adulterous woman from unfairness and misjudgment. He was not defending her sin jus like I'm not defending Jay-Z's sins, but was defending her from unjust treatment, which is what I'm doing for Jay. So, it is a Biblical principle that I'm upholding. It is Christian to judge but to judge fairly and accurately. Misquoting people, taking people out of context and stigmatizing them based off of subjective imaginations is what's not Christian.
@derocdero yes jesus defended her to save her but he didnt attack the ppl who were after her to do so now did he...now wat unjust treatment is jay z receiving nobody is trying to cause him any physical harm but simply making satatements that have to do with his lifestyle and how they strongly disagree with it and that he should change his lifestyle...it isnt christian to judge because Christ didnt judge us He saved us so if we are suppose to try to be like Him how is it right for us to judge
@derocdero you cant take something that is clearly stated out of content you can attempt to twist it to your viewpoint but you cant take it out of content wen its clearly stated and while jay z has denied being a mason he has never denied being illuminati which are to different groups all together who have been claimed to have ties with one another which is why the 2 are often mixed up but some masons actually attend church which causes conflict with that whole thing but thats a whole other top.
I see there are a lot of lost Christians posting on this video. I may not agree with everything he says, but Mark Driscoll has a quote I love. "Just because you own a Bible doesn't give you the right to keep writing!!"
R U KIDDING ME? You're saying because Bizzle is exposing Jay-z for who he is, he's wrong because Christianity now becomes unappealing to him??? It's not about Jay-Z, it's about the evil that he's preaching! Bizzle is not talking to Jay-Z, he's talking to the people that listen to his lies. Calling a spade a spade is biblical!
I've watched two video's of yours and I'm convinced that you are nothing more than an apologist for Satan. You wouldn't know the gospel if it smacked you in the face!
@fellowservant34 No, never was my argument. Spreading lies, rumors, stigmatization, and selling sensationalism is misrepresenting Christianity. <--- that's what I'm saying. About saying I'm an apologist of Satan? Well, that's not nice.
@fellowservant34 No, Biz was mistaken in what he doing by spreading gossip and falsehood about Jay. Sinners still need to be treated fairly. (e.g. Adulterous woman).
Bizzle has touched people , hes touched me. He has strengthened my faith in God , He has also replaced the secular music i used to listen to , Its much deeper than what you understand. We dont have time to sit back and be nice , thats the problem with the church now adays. We want to be enable people to sin as Christians which is wrong and use the excuse of Jesus's love. We take adv of his love because we want to be nice. He rebuked Jay but he said out of love. You don't understand the concept.
@prettyinpinkxit I agree. Bizzle had replaced the secular music I listen to as well. It's good someone is rapping truth. Bizzle even says at the end that people need to spend more time in their Bibles and not the Illuminati stuff in his "Truth" rap.
@prettyinpinkxit That has nothing to do with anything I said here or in my videos. Have you been following my videos? One, I have claimed that all of this is a witch hunt against Jay-Z and for obvious reasons, what makes Jay-Z the exception out of all the rappers who promote evil? Two, the witch hunt is based off of lies, half-truths, false witness and rumors. The accusations are false, Jay-Z is not in Freemasonry, and if he was, Freemasons are not evil people, and he is not a satanist.
Come on now , Jay z is continuing to disrespect Jesus... Get outta here , so you want us to sit here and let him disrespect Jesus. Jesus himself judged the pharisees in the bible , he called them devils. People forget that Jesus judged people in the bible.You don't know what conversations Bizzle has had with God. Dont judge someone if you don't know their story , Jesus judged. God judged the cities of Sodom when they disrespected God and he caused wrath on those cities.
@derocdero I am on topic , you just don't understand the entirety of this topic so to you it seems like im branching off but im really just discussing the different aspects of the topic that you don't seems to understand.... The topic is very complex , that's my point. If you are going to speak on the bible , don't pick parts.. talk about the bible in its entirety and also in the context. To abuse Gods love is a very dangerous thing..don't encourage it.
@derocdero In regards to Jesus and love and how we should approach people who blaspheme the name of the lord. Look through the bible ... God and Jesus rebuked people who blasphemed the name of the lord... the pharisees , jazabel and her husband i and even the Israelites when they served pagan gods..these people who God judged harshly did not even blaspheme the lords name to the degree Jay Z does continuously. Come on now. Lets be real.
ok i hear you about the allegations against Jay Z cuz he's never really came out and said "I worship satan" but what about the constant anti-Christ like, pro-demon symbolism in Jay z's videos? Doesn't that kinda say something out loud?
@lavaviper89 even those things are mere speculation. Symbols in music videos are not sacred objects but props that are meant to elicit shock value and even artistry. Those things have more to do with the director and video producers than Jay-Z.
@derocdero I see...I hear the logics...but what does the Spirit of the Lord say? If he ain't pushin' Christ...who else cud he possibly be pushin'? Knowing or unknowingly...
Bizzle aint perfect and he aint tryin to be like, THE WORlD WILL HATE US!!
dont need to appeal to feelings, as long as you tell them the truth, the rest is upto them. Preach the gospel and its upto the sinner now to change. no need to sugar coat or powderpuff anything. Its TIME TO GO TO WAR!!!
The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks. (Luke 6:45) so if jay-z can only rap about what appeals to the world..then thats exactly where His heart is..period
@derocdero in the beginning of his video bizzle quoted the scripture Ezekiel 33:8
-so basically whn u started talkin about how if u were jay-z and how u would feel, u said (paraphrasing mind u) he would not be attracted to "the Jesus" that was presented. but how many know that not everyone is going to accept correction bc they feel that whatever they are doing, is right by what they feel in their heart to be true. Luke 6:45 is proof that what jayz raps about comes from his heart.
Look, dont get me wrong. Bizzle is actually a friend of mine, BUT, i do not agree with what he is saying. Yes it is good that he is repping Christ, and trying to get Jayz or Rick Ross to become a Christian, but, the things he is saying in the song definitly would not make me want to be a Christian.
"Ima take you and beat you in the street" thats not a way a Christian should react to this. We should take a loving look at it like KJ did for Eminem
How do you want to tell Jay to repent? Just tell him that what hes doin is ok but he should do this instead? No, someone has to tell all these secular cats that if they dont repent they will go to hell.
I'd like to see you do some music based on what you say is the "right way". I'll be waiting for it fam.
What are your intentions for making this video? to get people to stop listening to Bizzle? Why don't you address Bizzle personally - instead of complaining ABOUT him, complain TO him.
By the way, people know what is good & what is evil, if Bizzle said something that is wrong (according to the Bible), it most likely will disturb me & I'll pick up on it.
First off, Christ lives through the Word, not the "church". Secondly, just because Jay-Z SAYS somerhing in an interview doesn't mean he actually believes it. This is all a put on. These aren't "rumors", they are right out in the open for people to see...as Bizzle pointed out. Don't be blind on purpose.
Love you Brother, but I think you're wrong. Get off your soap box and applaud the MC's that are standing for GOD's righteousness in this age. Back when you were with Cross Movement, you talked about living a Standard of holiness and you spoke against the sin of the Hip Hop culture. In your heart you agree with Bizzle, you just don't like his method. I remember some Cross Movement songs when ya'll mentioned secular rappers names. Who cares about Jay Z's feelings? I care about his Salvation
@TheOmegasparx Both Phanatik and Amba, never talked to the others about this, share my position about the witch hunt that I'm describing here. Nothing I'm doing here violates any of the past messages from Cross Movement. Concerning Jay-Z's feelings and salvation, its not an either/or, it's both. I care about his feelings and his salvation. Basic Christianity, what is it that you disagree with in my videos?
Bro you keep talking about not preaching condemnation but you can't go so far out of your way to not preach condemnation that you leave the Holy Spirit no room to bring conviction. Because all you breed after that point is club hoppin christians who still do everything the world does but say that their under grace. God bless bro.
I think that Bizzle is saying that outright Jay has not said "no i am not a free mason, any likeness to the designs of my clothing to the symbols of thelema, the masons or any other organization is purely coincidental" rather than saying something like that j just says you misheard a certain part of my song. And you really don't know j or rick or anyone of these rappers personally to say that what Bizzle is saying is Gossip so you could be just as easily categorized as gossip.
Just like bizzle said, You are the type of guy that clearly see all the signs of ya girl cheating! then she says i didnt do it and your like "ok Baby"..lol Tounge in the mouth right after she left Big Mike's crib..lol And clearly you didnt say that the truth was missing at the end, you just said the love!
It aint rumors.Jay-z's ppl from his own camp speak out of his involvement with masonry and devil worship.these ppl sell there souls to be where they are.just like Satan tempted jesus during his 40 days fasting.sorry brother but u must do some research I understand ur point of view but if you really felt strongly against bizzle approach him like a man and not go on youtube and do the exact thing you accuse him of doing.the word says by their fruits you will no them.u have 800 views he got 10,000.
these things do hold up under scrutiny. as bizzle stated "no one made you put that sweater on" masonic immagery is prevelant in jay-z, kanye, beyoncey, rhianna, all of their music and videos. not to mention the referances to actually being demonicly possessed. have you looked at the evidence yourself?
So what u r saying is that we shouldnt defend our father n heaven? Do u mean that we should let them walk n sin? Do u believe that Jesus never stood up n rebuked the sinners?
If I was Jay z how would i feel? So now it matters how we feel? Does this christian walk now about r feelings?
So Jesus is down wit the drinking, murder and sex n our lifes? What scripture r u coming from fam
@derocdero It relates to everything you said , I dont think you understand fully the concept of Christianity. Read proverbs and understand what the bible says about discipline and wisdom of man... dont pick certain parts of the bible out without fully understanding the concept of Christianity. Christianity is a heavy load , people think its simple to do what bizzle did.
@derocdero but like i said you dont understand the spirituality aspect of the situation.. your making it seems like bizzle is bulling Jay.. when you understand it then you will understand how these statements that are being made relate to the video... I cant make you see it , mans timing is not Gods timing.... In his way God will show you...but have a good day ... I know you made this video with good intentions at heart & i aint mad atcha God bless sweety(:.
@prettyinpinkxit You talk about Jesus like he is all about peace and love which he is ,but he judges as well... he said he came to this world to divide people , mothers from fathers , brothers from sisters... in the new testament... you want Bizzle to be nice and what will that accomplish. Proverbs says to discipline with the rod , the bible also a says honesty is like a kiss on the lips while deceit is like a slap in the face. He was honest.
@prettyinpinkxit Lol no , you just dont understand the context. If everyone on both your videos are saying the same thing then be humble and take another look at the situation. Like I said , im giving you the benefit of the doubt and ill believe you did this with good intention. God bless sweety . Have a good sunday (:!!
@prettyinpinkxit There are various opinions about my video, some agree some don't. If those who disagree on the basis of scripture can show me that Christians are suppose to treat Jay-Z in the manner that these sensational conspirator have, then by all means, show me in scripture because no where in Jesus' teachings do I find justification. On the contrary, just the opposite, Jesus defended sinners against such witch hunts.
@prettyinpinkxit I don't think that a second look needs to be made on C.Cordero's part. Just because the majority is against what he's stating, that doesn't mean he's wrong biblically. Remember that the majority of people on earth don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God...I know that doesn't mean that we should rethink our commitment to Christ. One thing we must do(and I did it myself) is look at scripture and how Jesus dealt with sinners and with incorrect teachings.That's what Cdero asked.
@prettyinpinkxit In context the sword statement that Jesus made was expressing that Jesus demands of unconditional elegance would place him even before family. That has nothing to do with what Bizzle and others have done with Jay-Z. The discipline passage in proverbs says nothing about spreading gossip and stigmatization unless you think such things are forms of discipline. And seriously?, this is all in some way disciplining Jay-Z? How so?
@derocdero There have been so many verses in the bible where God has specifically said If I have assigned you to warn someone about their evil ways and you do not and they die their blood will be on your hands. Thats a strong statement from the lord , who are you to classify bizzles song as gossip? Are you involved in his conversations with God? You don't agree with his method , thats you and your entitled to your opinion.Be careful with how you judge situations.
@prettyinpinkxit I respect your views here but I just disagree. There are specific applications of Biblical principles and thus individuality is welcomed. However, my argument has been that a specific situation has violated a principle that the body of Christ together must uphold and that is the Gospel of the Lord Jesus.
@derocdero Even if he is gossiping , what is it to you ? what does it add to your life in anyway to make this video. Instead of you rejoicing at SOULS that have declared testimonies such as not listening to secular music. Your heavily focused on being right and proving a point on here. I congratulate Bizzle because regardless of anything God has used him and worked through him to touch people who maybe would not have been touched if he hadn't made that song.Im not picking sides
@prettyinpinkxit What's it to me? According to your individualistic argument below, why are you asking,"What's it to me?" I see a double standard here. But I'll answer, gossip is nothing that a Christian should be engaged in, period, and since I don't think individualistically, because the body of Christ is ONE, I feel the need to publicly rebuke such contra Christianity. I'm not trying to win an argument here. I'm sharing my voice just as much as you're sharing you're voice.
@derocdero but i am looking at the bigger picture.Jay z this Jay z that. Who caress??? about JAY Z... you have an opportunity here on this comment board to reach more souls and people are sharing testimonies.. branch off from that instead of being proud and trying to win an argument that i have tried to dismiss several times because ... You dont know Gods thoughts and he can use anyone he wants.. he used a prostitute in the bible and he used Saul as well...he even used a donkey. You dont the
@prettyinpinkxit Yes, God can use anything but the nature of what he uses doesn't change unless of course he changes it. If not, then it is what it is. A prostitute used is still a prostitute. Being used doesn't negate God's standards of right and wrong. God used other nations to plunder n pillage Israel and yet still held those nations responsible for their wickedness. Speaking of a bigger picture, I think you're missing a crucial part of Biblical narrative here, and that is the Gospels.
@derocdero Look love , just leave it. If I am , God will show me in his own time im only 18 lol im still learning..Im not a TD JAKES...im an 18 year old girl from California.. ... all I know is what I know which is bizzle has been a blessing in my life personally...but if i have come across a certain way then i apologize but have a good day (: bye..
@prettyinpinkxit I never questioned if Bizzle has been a blessing to you. And yes, you have come off as though you know more than someone who has been part of the Christian Hip Hop culture for over 18 years and who was a part of Hip Hop in general for over 30 years. I can go on and on with my "credentials," but I don't need to. What's alarming is that what I have been promoting is Christianity 101 and some Christians are clueless.
Didnt God say,"I will come like a thief in the night."? Well basically, thats what Bizzle did. Came outta nowhere, put his thoughts on the beat, just as you put your thoughts about their thoughts on this here video. Remember, you are not the judge of men, God are, so no matter how much you talk, at the end of the day the people will have to make up their own minds. Realize we are in spiritual warfare, And know that you can't put yourself in Jayz shoes in that way you did UJust don't know the man
lol no disrepect but you sound like a house nigga. " dont talk about masa"lol im in the field with bizzle I'd rather be on the front line for my farther
@Karmadatbitch1 You go right ahead and follow Bizzle, I rather follow the Lord Jesus' example he showed in regards to sinners and his example in regards to to self righteous egotistical people who preach condemnation.
@derocdero i didnt say i was going to follow him. I'm just saying, all these "play it safe christians" aren't making the world any better hiding in the church and satan still attacking our children. that dont make you mad?
first of all jay z is just down right blasphemous.1st John talks about the anit-christ.......anyone who denies Jesus, or speaks against Jesus, is the anti-christ, they have the spirit of the ani-christ in them...so whether or not he is a free mason is irrelivant....perhaps there is a more subtle way to come at the stars of the hip hop industry, but somebody needs to speak out against these lies and deceit. the youth of our nation parish because they idolize sick minded people like jay z
first of all jay z is just down right blasphemous.1st John talks about the anit-christ.......anyone who denies Jesus, or speaks against Jesus, is the anti-christ, they have the spirit of the ani-christ in them...so whether or not he is a free mason is irrelivant....perhaps there is a more subtle way to come at the stars of the hip hop industry, but somebody needs to speak out against these lies and deceit. the youth of our nation parish because they idolize sick minded people like jay z.
Brother in as much as you insist that we as believers are passing judgment on Jay-z, has he not gone on the record and proved that what we are saying is true.
Has he not gone on the record and claimed he is possessed by spirits,
has he not gone on the record and glorified Lucifer?
Your words are empty, for actions speak louder than words, these wild trees, are bearing wild fruits, woe to the man that calls evil good and good evil.
These are not hypothesis, Jay-Z said it, and we DECODED IT.
derocdero, Have you considered Jesus's teaching in Luke 12:51-53. Hear Jesus states that he didnt come to bring peace on earth but rather he came to bring division.Or what about Acts 24:5 hear the Apostle paul was on trial before Felix and what was his charge. The charge against him was that he was a trouble maker and he was stiring up riots all over the world. Or sir have you considered Davids words in psalms 139:21-21 here David states quote"do i not hate those who hate you,o Lord"
derocdero, Have you considered Jesus's teaching in Luke 12:51-53. Hear Jesus states that he didnt come to bring peace on earth but rather he came to bring division.Or what about Acts 24:5 hear the Apostle paul was on trial before Felix and what was his charge. The charge against him was that he was a trouble maker and he was stiring up riots all over the world. Or sir have you considered Davids words in psalms 139:21-21 here David states quote"do i not hate those who hate you,o Lord"
He never denied that he wasn't a satanist! He is an Artful Dodger, he will never give a straight answer.;...And he said he believes in one god, not THE GREAT I AM, Jehovah, Maker of Heaven and Earth......... And you have obviously never watched his videos and seen all of the imagery that Jay-Z uses from the Occult, Aliester Crowley to be exact..... You need to do better research my brother and stay in the word.... PEACE, .....P.S. - Re-examine your vision, pray for eyes to see and ears to hear.
Man I guess!!! I see what you are saying, but Bizzle as well as many other Christians are trying to expose many other the lies and deception from media, do you not believe in spiritual warfare, do you not see whats going on, Yes God still loves these evil doers, but most like JAY-z actually dissed Jesus and that upsets christians
@derocdero But that doesn't make it okay to diss Jesus, he is our savior he still deserves respect so we as Christians should stand up for him. If a man hits my mother then another man calls her a b*tch, im not going to say, its ok to call her a b*tch because she has already been treated worse, by being beat..NO im still going to stand up for her and Jay-z and others that are dissin Jesus are doing it in present time, which is influencing some weak minded people
I can probly see why one who havent done much research on jay-z on his Backmasking Satanist Music Videos, one who disses Yeshua,can be on his side. But! you really gotta check it my man , I didnt see the first part of this vid but its not just jay-z ya know? Ya know Illuminati?Goverment Satanic as they come, fallen angels n the whole 9. But enough with the puppets of lucifer. YAH'WEH (yahaweh) is right at the door
i believe we should love everyone, but i believe we should love our Christian brothers & sisters even more according to the Scriptures! so that means that im going to love and support my fellow Christian believers more than i would the non Christian unbelievers...............especially those who promote satanic or devilish imagery in their music
@djlz1 What are you assuming here? That agreeing or disagreeing with someone has to do with love? What does disagreeing with a Christian has to do with loving he/she less? I don't get that.
@Airbornebull , sorry to hear that Christians have pushed you away but don't allow them to rob you from a beautiful relationship with Jesus Christ. I hear you bro, is sad.
Another good video. and yea I agree with you when you say alot of Christians push people away from the religion(as they did me) Especially these so called Christians on these blog sites. I take it as disrespect if a man is telling you "I don't worship the devil" or "these are my beliefs" and you call him a liar. I think that should be a sin.If a man tells me what he believes. I believe it. when it comes to his faith or soul. Especially if he is not out here killing peopl..Peace
Hey look everybody A guy from the streets rapping about worldly things changed his LIFE AND GAVE IT TO GOD. But I guess they missed that? Ya'll breaking him down on such meaningless stuff. I don't hear no points on him rapping about the good things he said? Yall only focused on a 10th of the song? What about the last part where he said how we compare ourselves to the worst to feel comfortable in our own sins. HES REACHING AN AUDIENCE THATS DOESNT EVEN GO TO CHURCH BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS?
@mystroceo First, you don't know me to say anything about me. Two, deal with what I'm saying, that's all you have. Three, I have acknowledged that Bizzle means well but his slandering of Jay-Z overrides his call for Jay-Z to repent. His spill goes something like this... Jay-Z is a devil, he's a satanist, he's a freeMason, etc, etc, oh BTW Jay, Jesus loves you and if you get saved I'm with ya but if you don't, expect more slander. Sorry bruh I can't get down wit dat.
How come dude has so much info on Bizzle, but none on Jay. The funny part is is that Bizzle wasn't even a Christian rapper at 1st? Bizzle is touching people that don't even go to church. See this is why Christians get a bad rap. They spend more time ragging on each other about how to do Gods work, then doing it. No one has ever addressed Jay publicly & everybody rather play the house nigga. Man I'm glad Bizzle had spoke truth. When Jesus comes back hes coming for War. NOT TO TALK & BE KIND.
@mystroceo Wow, that is a bit extreme. I've been in the Christian hip hop scene for over ten years now and never have called out someone publicly. But bruh, Bizzle and others have been misrepresenting the call of God. This is not a Christian going up against a Christian because of personal reasons, who cares what I think. This is a Christian going up against a mentality that for quite some time has poisoned urban Christianity.
Now i totally agree with you i dont think its a right tool and that we should battle and diss the wordly people since JC did not even waste his time doing it. the other thing is, you are absolutely right when u say too many christians are self conscious and always condemn people. thats something that we should stop and remember that we have to spread love and not hate.
I think yall mixing everything, without being disrepectful, first of all there are people that we cant just save anymore. People who sold their soul to the devil are condemned to the end. its a waste of time to tryna evangelize them. We Christians are at wars with the devils and his disciples and dark angels. its like saying we could save satan, no we cant. I strongly jay z sold his soul to the devils even if he doesn't say it. we are spirituals and we see the way he acts we see his CHARACTER
you may be right but @ the same time, i think you may be defending Jay-Z a little too much more than is necessary. we at least have to respect Bizzle for speaking out and taking a stand against the evil in the music industry.............there is such a thing as tough love.............do we love people enough to tell them the truth, even if and when it hurts?? its true that we must preach Jesus loves you, but we also have to preach "repent from sin"
@djlz1 I might be right about what? About defending Jay-Z, allow me to clarify that I'm not defending Jay-Z per se, I'm pointing out the warped nature of the arguments used by Christians in isolating Jay-Z and others among the countless artists who promote sin, and coming at them with all kinds of accusations. As I said in my other videos, Jay-Z is but a microcosm of the bigger picture of how Christians are to associate themselves with unbelievers.
We are to contend for the faith of Jesus Christ and TRUTH!!! NOT COMPROMISE!!!!
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon [wealth in money or possessions].
I'm sorry bro. But this is exactly what the devil wants us to do. Have a christian go after someone who is being christlike. In the last book of revelations it says christ returns for war. No disrespect bro. But I don't see you taking the time to analyze or breakdown the messages in Jay's song. How come you took the time to analyze Bizzles song? Why haven't you analyzed Jay's song or his message?
I agree with viciousdogproduction 100 percent but Jayz in empire state of mind "and life starts when the church ends and jesus can't save you " I'm still like what !!!
@ChavonS1985 Sorry but your completely wrong, having read the bible i dont think God needs you to fight for him ...from my understanding Jesus said we should love our enemies ,turn the other cheek & not cast the first stone ... maybe im wrong but if there is a verse in the bible were Jesus asks us to call out people based on rumours & speculation i would like to see it
@idontknowwhatimdoin Exactly. The false witness that you and I are observing is based off of rumors and speculation. I don't about them, but I have always been taught that you don't treat speculation and rumors as facts. This is Christianity 101. Thanks for the support.
bruh you are the one misrepresenting Jesus by making up stuff where did the disciples want to burn the samaritans?
where in the bible does Jesus say i did not come to destroy life, etc ? i think this is borderline blasphemy but anyway do what you want its a free world.
@thatdirt Luke 9:51-56 in the KJV. Some manuscripts do not contain that text but some do. It depends on the Version of the Bible that you're reading. In regards to this being borderline blasphemy? Well that something you have to take up with the bible.
um i realize that my statement is broken up and thats my fault. the disciples wanted to call down fire from heaven thats correct but does Jesus say that?
listen @3.20 - 3:45 of the video is that really what happens? does Jesus really say that in luke 9:51-62?
i think theres a lot of people misrepresenting Jesus
Ikay.. I watched both videos and I am appalled that you are so quick to chastise Bizzle for his tracks..video and music on this subject. To love GOD is to hate sin.. it's simple.. Love Jay Z but the sin that he perpetuates and glorifes is not okay!.. And mind you when I was in the world I went to every Jay Z concert.. bumped the music..I idolized and was attracted to him on every level.
@ChavonS1985 I'm appalled at sin too. What Bizzle and the rest of the sensationalists are doing is sin. Amen. to love God is to hate sin, no mater whom is doing the sinning. You do know that sin is something tat exist in the Church not just in so called secular artists right?
homie, you have no idea what your talkin about, jay-z is a Satanist, he has a million reasons out now an unless he clears those up, we are gonna view him as that....he disrespected Jesus hard on the "On to the next" Video an u gonna tell me that Jay-Z doesn't worship the devil?! i respect your opinion, but i don't agree bro, sorry.... Bizzle's track was GREAT!! an pure truth!!
@caseclosedfanatic22 On what basis is he a satanist? Give me any of those millions reasons out that won't fall under scrutiny? Now you do know that if you're wrong you are bearing false witness right?
@derocdero its so much info out there bro, i shouldn't have to break it down to you, its very evident an stuff like that, u can't just wake up an make up, Jay-Z clearly says he believes in one God an it clearly isn't Jesus Christ, the song with Alicia Keys, he clearly said "Jesus can't save you, life starts when the Church ends" pure disrespect, the Freemason song, he didn't clear up nothin, but if people u just wanna hear him deny it, fine, but i don't believe it, he hasn't cleared up anything.
@caseclosedfanatic22 Jay really does not have to clear anything up. The accusers need to clear things up because when you put the accusations under scrutiny, they fall apart. Of anything, its the accusers, conspiracy theorists, and fear mungers that have some explaining to do.
@derocdero My man you are as lost as Jay Z. I can't believe this video. I thought at first you were being impartial but you are soooooo far up these Luciferian rappers backsides you cant tell the light from the dark. Use your time and video making skills to promote Christianity, not defend punk ass mainstream hip hop artists. especially those who clearly have no time for the rules laid down by God.
@PeaceLovingCriminal And this is relevant in what way? Are you just mad because I don't buy into the garbage of Illuminate or Killuminate or what ever the sensationalists want to call it?
@PeaceLovingCriminal Is this a straw-man argument because where in my videos do I deny that Jay-Z needs Christ? Where do I deny that he is not carnal/worldly? Are you even listening?
@derocdero taken from the track I run this town....
"Lifes a game but its not fair, I break the rules so I don't care"
What rules is Rhianna talking about? Man made law? No, because she would be locked up right?
Gods Law? Yes I think so unless you know of any other authority that lays down rules/law...
You must be either too good a Christian or a really bad one. Either way your defence of these so called artists is undefendable regardless of what passages you quote.
well, I know Bizzle's tactics might not always be the most Christlike, but I don't think it's a bad thing. it would be a horrible thing if every Christian took this approach, but you need at least one person say to "Jay, the symbolism in your videos are promoting satanism!" and there's a whole lot of evidence on Jay-Z, so if Jay has been lying to us the whole time then what makes you think his denial is not lie? the main thing about Biz's 2 diss tracks are that we don't need to listen to Jay-z's
@LUKENINE23 (cont.) music because it is promoting evil! but I think "truth music" will only get a buzz from the Christian hip hop community and not all of hip hop like "explaining to do"
How do u know that JayZ's telling da truth?? U seem more concerned about JayZ feelings than exposing da truth!!! C'mon man!!!
eastsidebrother1 1 month ago
dude your an idiot!! GET IN YO WORD HOMIE!!!
31riccrocc 3 months ago
? I'm curious if you actually took this to Bizzle, before this video, and perhaps you and some other brothers in the faith were ignored?
TheMaurice7131 5 months ago
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them." the lord has lead and guided biz to do everything he has done, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with what biz has done, it's a shame more are not willing to do it too. You act like every song he has released is about jay. We are SOLDIERS for Christ, and if you don't wanna stand up and fight for him in this spiritual battle then so be it, it's just sad that you, a "christian" are defending a satanist over a
LoveSickBlues 6 months ago
yo bro you need to kno there not rummors jayz calls him selfs a mason and say its return of his god callin the devl god the devil is not GOD jayz knows what he is doing and dosnt care he sayd hed sell his soul for a mill were not mean let it stream stay away from mainstream there on satans team they dream and sceam of one day over throwin the father and jayz need to be killed soory bought you just like elijah kill the false profites GOD says dont let no fowl roots grow up to defil many
RepindaFather 6 months ago
cruz what I dont understand is you stand up for Jay-Z while throwing a fellow brother under the bus to look better to a world that already hates us...i mean I can see your address to the approach but labeling people who dont like these videos as Bizzle fanatics... is like creating beef bro. I love you and your music but cant get with you on this one
dkan3 6 months ago
i understand. but do you think he's listen any otherway? in darkness, you really cannot see the light. i mean you are right, there are other ways of going about preaching the word. yes there are many people who contradict themselves, saying they are christian, but not actually carrying it out in the christian manner. but at least he's trying in some way.
eliezer1324 10 months ago
GOD BLESS U ALL.......
djxs10 1 year ago
Das wassup, 3/4 of the way......GB
redikqliss 1 year ago
wow, u guys are askin and not catchin dudes (cordero's) point or perspective.....it doesnt matter now tho.....its in the past both hav been changd by God, u see it bizzles new tracks....
redikqliss 1 year ago
were u paid to come on youtube and and talk bad about bizzle or are u a jay z fan defending jay z.....or you just dont like new age christian rappers/singers cuz you like how things use to be done?.. i mean,what are you doing to make ppl informed about the evils out in the world and jesus?.whats motive u have saying mean things about bizzle? u dont want us to listen to him no more? are u saying hes a devil,a liar and we cant trust him....are u jealous cause he has a lot of hype/fame?
alproductionz08 1 year ago
hey derocdero yo i feel you man but that aint gossip.. There true! basically truth music.. Even some of my co workers say they b doing strange stuff in there videos.W e can also say that your a gossiper as well. But thats not your heart intent. Your conveying what you see as true.. Bizzle got some ways to go as a new believer.. Coach him what to do.. Do these things in LOVE! If this were the case then all churches would be labeled as gossipers because they speak on things of the world rebuking.
jugerknott09 1 year ago
7 people must be Bizzle fanatics.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero no we just are more aware then you and bizzle actually is one of the good christian rappers
bigscrappy1 1 year ago
@bigscrappy1 More aware of what?
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero and I also see 12 people must be ignorant as you who trying justify what they doing.
jdmcool24 10 months ago
@derocdero So what video where you watchin? It doesnt look like Bizzle wasnt spreading any lies or gossip to me. Bizzle was exposing TRUTH. Havent you heard the new free mason song by Jayz and Rick Ross. As an example Jesus addressed the pharisees. They couldnt handle it either. The bible says that we have the power to speak life or death. It also says that we should also test the scriptures. Last but not least the bible says that all music is. to glorify God.
ProlifikG831 8 months ago
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@derocdero So what video where you watchin? It doesnt look like Bizzle wasnt spreading any lies or gossip to me. Bizzle was exposing TRUTH. Havent you heard the new free mason song by Jayz and Rick Ross. As an example Jesus addressed the pharisees. They couldnt handle it either. The bible says that we have the power to speak life or death. It also says that we should also test the scriptures. Last but not least the bible says that all music is. to glorify God.
ProlifikG831 8 months ago
@derocdero no we just dont believe this guy going in a fellow christan who desires to be like christ none of use are perfect we cannot be and we need to seek to be perfect GOD says dont let no fowl roots grow up to defil many what bizzle sayd is the truth lisent to jayzs song he say return of the god mason devils pot im comin for you open you eyes stay aways from mainstream there on satans team use every word to magnifie the lord and all glory to the KING ON THE THRONE AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD
RepindaFather 6 months ago
according to your quote by jay z he didnt deny being a satan worship he just said he never said he was one smh its a play on words
bigscrappy1 1 year ago
@bigscrappy1 LoL dude give it up...stop reaching.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero im not reaching you are since when did Jesus tell anyone to put one another down or defend someone who isnt living for God against someone who is trying to and is addressing something they feel needs to be addressed bizzle isnt doing anything physically harming the man he just spoke on a matter that needed to be addressed let me inform you on the man your defending the very same man who said in the song state of the empire that Christ cant save you life begins wen the church ends
bigscrappy1 1 year ago
@bigscrappy1 Actually, Jesus defended the adulterous woman from unfairness and misjudgment. He was not defending her sin jus like I'm not defending Jay-Z's sins, but was defending her from unjust treatment, which is what I'm doing for Jay. So, it is a Biblical principle that I'm upholding. It is Christian to judge but to judge fairly and accurately. Misquoting people, taking people out of context and stigmatizing them based off of subjective imaginations is what's not Christian.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero yes jesus defended her to save her but he didnt attack the ppl who were after her to do so now did he...now wat unjust treatment is jay z receiving nobody is trying to cause him any physical harm but simply making satatements that have to do with his lifestyle and how they strongly disagree with it and that he should change his lifestyle...it isnt christian to judge because Christ didnt judge us He saved us so if we are suppose to try to be like Him how is it right for us to judge
bigscrappy1 1 year ago
@derocdero you cant take something that is clearly stated out of content you can attempt to twist it to your viewpoint but you cant take it out of content wen its clearly stated and while jay z has denied being a mason he has never denied being illuminati which are to different groups all together who have been claimed to have ties with one another which is why the 2 are often mixed up but some masons actually attend church which causes conflict with that whole thing but thats a whole other top.
bigscrappy1 1 year ago
I see there are a lot of lost Christians posting on this video. I may not agree with everything he says, but Mark Driscoll has a quote I love. "Just because you own a Bible doesn't give you the right to keep writing!!"
melasun07 1 year ago
R U KIDDING ME? You're saying because Bizzle is exposing Jay-z for who he is, he's wrong because Christianity now becomes unappealing to him??? It's not about Jay-Z, it's about the evil that he's preaching! Bizzle is not talking to Jay-Z, he's talking to the people that listen to his lies. Calling a spade a spade is biblical!
I've watched two video's of yours and I'm convinced that you are nothing more than an apologist for Satan. You wouldn't know the gospel if it smacked you in the face!
fellowservant34 1 year ago 5
@fellowservant34 No, never was my argument. Spreading lies, rumors, stigmatization, and selling sensationalism is misrepresenting Christianity. <--- that's what I'm saying. About saying I'm an apologist of Satan? Well, that's not nice.
derocdero 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 No, Biz was mistaken in what he doing by spreading gossip and falsehood about Jay. Sinners still need to be treated fairly. (e.g. Adulterous woman).
derocdero 1 year ago
Bizzle has touched people , hes touched me. He has strengthened my faith in God , He has also replaced the secular music i used to listen to , Its much deeper than what you understand. We dont have time to sit back and be nice , thats the problem with the church now adays. We want to be enable people to sin as Christians which is wrong and use the excuse of Jesus's love. We take adv of his love because we want to be nice. He rebuked Jay but he said out of love. You don't understand the concept.
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit I agree. Bizzle had replaced the secular music I listen to as well. It's good someone is rapping truth. Bizzle even says at the end that people need to spend more time in their Bibles and not the Illuminati stuff in his "Truth" rap.
UndeadCandies 1 year ago
@UndeadCandies EXACTLY!
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@UndeadCandies Do you have anything to say concerning my videos?
derocdero 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit That has nothing to do with anything I said here or in my videos. Have you been following my videos? One, I have claimed that all of this is a witch hunt against Jay-Z and for obvious reasons, what makes Jay-Z the exception out of all the rappers who promote evil? Two, the witch hunt is based off of lies, half-truths, false witness and rumors. The accusations are false, Jay-Z is not in Freemasonry, and if he was, Freemasons are not evil people, and he is not a satanist.
derocdero 1 year ago
Come on now , Jay z is continuing to disrespect Jesus... Get outta here , so you want us to sit here and let him disrespect Jesus. Jesus himself judged the pharisees in the bible , he called them devils. People forget that Jesus judged people in the bible.You don't know what conversations Bizzle has had with God. Dont judge someone if you don't know their story , Jesus judged. God judged the cities of Sodom when they disrespected God and he caused wrath on those cities.
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit Again. Stay on topic.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero I am on topic , you just don't understand the entirety of this topic so to you it seems like im branching off but im really just discussing the different aspects of the topic that you don't seems to understand.... The topic is very complex , that's my point. If you are going to speak on the bible , don't pick parts.. talk about the bible in its entirety and also in the context. To abuse Gods love is a very dangerous thing..don't encourage it.
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit What in context, anything, justifies what Bizzle has done?
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero In regards to Jesus and love and how we should approach people who blaspheme the name of the lord. Look through the bible ... God and Jesus rebuked people who blasphemed the name of the lord... the pharisees , jazabel and her husband i and even the Israelites when they served pagan gods..these people who God judged harshly did not even blaspheme the lords name to the degree Jay Z does continuously. Come on now. Lets be real.
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit One, on what grounds have Jay blasphemed the Lord's name?, Secondly, who is my Lord, Jesus, or others?
derocdero 1 year ago
ok i hear you about the allegations against Jay Z cuz he's never really came out and said "I worship satan" but what about the constant anti-Christ like, pro-demon symbolism in Jay z's videos? Doesn't that kinda say something out loud?
lavaviper89 1 year ago
@lavaviper89 even those things are mere speculation. Symbols in music videos are not sacred objects but props that are meant to elicit shock value and even artistry. Those things have more to do with the director and video producers than Jay-Z.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero I see...I hear the logics...but what does the Spirit of the Lord say? If he ain't pushin' Christ...who else cud he possibly be pushin'? Knowing or unknowingly...
lavaviper89 1 year ago
Bizzle aint perfect and he aint tryin to be like, THE WORlD WILL HATE US!!
dont need to appeal to feelings, as long as you tell them the truth, the rest is upto them. Preach the gospel and its upto the sinner now to change. no need to sugar coat or powderpuff anything. Its TIME TO GO TO WAR!!!
TK9the3KID 1 year ago
@TK9the3KID That's not what Jesus has said. That is not the command Jesus gave us.
derocdero 1 year ago
The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks. (Luke 6:45) so if jay-z can only rap about what appeals to the world..then thats exactly where His heart is..period
Meshak100 1 year ago
@Meshak100 Amen but what does that have to do with my video?
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero in the beginning of his video bizzle quoted the scripture Ezekiel 33:8
-so basically whn u started talkin about how if u were jay-z and how u would feel, u said (paraphrasing mind u) he would not be attracted to "the Jesus" that was presented. but how many know that not everyone is going to accept correction bc they feel that whatever they are doing, is right by what they feel in their heart to be true. Luke 6:45 is proof that what jayz raps about comes from his heart.
Meshak100 1 year ago
@Meshak100 Amen. I agree.
derocdero 1 year ago
Man, I definitly love what your saying.
Look, dont get me wrong. Bizzle is actually a friend of mine, BUT, i do not agree with what he is saying. Yes it is good that he is repping Christ, and trying to get Jayz or Rick Ross to become a Christian, but, the things he is saying in the song definitly would not make me want to be a Christian.
"Ima take you and beat you in the street" thats not a way a Christian should react to this. We should take a loving look at it like KJ did for Eminem
YoungRebel96 1 year ago
How do you want to tell Jay to repent? Just tell him that what hes doin is ok but he should do this instead? No, someone has to tell all these secular cats that if they dont repent they will go to hell.
I'd like to see you do some music based on what you say is the "right way". I'll be waiting for it fam.
ces5223 1 year ago
What are your intentions for making this video? to get people to stop listening to Bizzle? Why don't you address Bizzle personally - instead of complaining ABOUT him, complain TO him.
By the way, people know what is good & what is evil, if Bizzle said something that is wrong (according to the Bible), it most likely will disturb me & I'll pick up on it.
1tymthing 1 year ago
Listen to yourself at 3.06 - 3.41. They 'come' here from 'heaven' right ? Btw: Lucifer. Think about it. They are'nt gods and they're both the same.
NSDilly 1 year ago
First off, Christ lives through the Word, not the "church". Secondly, just because Jay-Z SAYS somerhing in an interview doesn't mean he actually believes it. This is all a put on. These aren't "rumors", they are right out in the open for people to see...as Bizzle pointed out. Don't be blind on purpose.
ghostgate82 1 year ago
Love you Brother, but I think you're wrong. Get off your soap box and applaud the MC's that are standing for GOD's righteousness in this age. Back when you were with Cross Movement, you talked about living a Standard of holiness and you spoke against the sin of the Hip Hop culture. In your heart you agree with Bizzle, you just don't like his method. I remember some Cross Movement songs when ya'll mentioned secular rappers names. Who cares about Jay Z's feelings? I care about his Salvation
TheOmegasparx 1 year ago 10
@TheOmegasparx Both Phanatik and Amba, never talked to the others about this, share my position about the witch hunt that I'm describing here. Nothing I'm doing here violates any of the past messages from Cross Movement. Concerning Jay-Z's feelings and salvation, its not an either/or, it's both. I care about his feelings and his salvation. Basic Christianity, what is it that you disagree with in my videos?
derocdero 1 year ago
@TheOmegasparx Nothing I'm doing here contradicts The Cross Movement of the past. On the contrary, it compliments it.
derocdero 1 year ago
Bro you keep talking about not preaching condemnation but you can't go so far out of your way to not preach condemnation that you leave the Holy Spirit no room to bring conviction. Because all you breed after that point is club hoppin christians who still do everything the world does but say that their under grace. God bless bro.
bobbycalledwell 1 year ago
I think that Bizzle is saying that outright Jay has not said "no i am not a free mason, any likeness to the designs of my clothing to the symbols of thelema, the masons or any other organization is purely coincidental" rather than saying something like that j just says you misheard a certain part of my song. And you really don't know j or rick or anyone of these rappers personally to say that what Bizzle is saying is Gossip so you could be just as easily categorized as gossip.
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MrHIMtv 1 year ago
follow on twitter @iam_jaysutton cruz i will holla @ u up there
MrHIMtv 1 year ago
If Jay Z does not want Bizzle to continue, then he could address the issues at hand. He has nothing to hide, right?
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I mean he doesn't HAVE to prove ANYTHING unless something Bizzle says bothers him. If it DOES "bother" him, then that's on HIM.
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Jay Z has never been shy with words, and to imply that someone "hurt his feelings" is LAUGHABLE.
g4macdad 1 year ago
Just like bizzle said, You are the type of guy that clearly see all the signs of ya girl cheating! then she says i didnt do it and your like "ok Baby"..lol Tounge in the mouth right after she left Big Mike's crib..lol And clearly you didnt say that the truth was missing at the end, you just said the love!
rstevens5 1 year ago
It aint rumors.Jay-z's ppl from his own camp speak out of his involvement with masonry and devil worship.these ppl sell there souls to be where they are.just like Satan tempted jesus during his 40 days fasting.sorry brother but u must do some research I understand ur point of view but if you really felt strongly against bizzle approach him like a man and not go on youtube and do the exact thing you accuse him of doing.the word says by their fruits you will no them.u have 800 views he got 10,000.
RadiKalSoldier 1 year ago
these things do hold up under scrutiny. as bizzle stated "no one made you put that sweater on" masonic immagery is prevelant in jay-z, kanye, beyoncey, rhianna, all of their music and videos. not to mention the referances to actually being demonicly possessed. have you looked at the evidence yourself?
jtrill 1 year ago
So what u r saying is that we shouldnt defend our father n heaven? Do u mean that we should let them walk n sin? Do u believe that Jesus never stood up n rebuked the sinners?
If I was Jay z how would i feel? So now it matters how we feel? Does this christian walk now about r feelings?
So Jesus is down wit the drinking, murder and sex n our lifes? What scripture r u coming from fam
justinWyattcole 1 year ago
@justinWyattcole What video was you watching?? Nothing you wrote relates to anything I said.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero It relates to everything you said , I dont think you understand fully the concept of Christianity. Read proverbs and understand what the bible says about discipline and wisdom of man... dont pick certain parts of the bible out without fully understanding the concept of Christianity. Christianity is a heavy load , people think its simple to do what bizzle did.
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit Can you point to exactly what I said in my video where anything you wrote relates to?
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero but like i said you dont understand the spirituality aspect of the situation.. your making it seems like bizzle is bulling Jay.. when you understand it then you will understand how these statements that are being made relate to the video... I cant make you see it , mans timing is not Gods timing.... In his way God will show you...but have a good day ... I know you made this video with good intentions at heart & i aint mad atcha God bless sweety(:.
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit You talk about Jesus like he is all about peace and love which he is ,but he judges as well... he said he came to this world to divide people , mothers from fathers , brothers from sisters... in the new testament... you want Bizzle to be nice and what will that accomplish. Proverbs says to discipline with the rod , the bible also a says honesty is like a kiss on the lips while deceit is like a slap in the face. He was honest.
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit You're misapplying those passages.
derocdero 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit Lol no , you just dont understand the context. If everyone on both your videos are saying the same thing then be humble and take another look at the situation. Like I said , im giving you the benefit of the doubt and ill believe you did this with good intention. God bless sweety . Have a good sunday (:!!
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit There are various opinions about my video, some agree some don't. If those who disagree on the basis of scripture can show me that Christians are suppose to treat Jay-Z in the manner that these sensational conspirator have, then by all means, show me in scripture because no where in Jesus' teachings do I find justification. On the contrary, just the opposite, Jesus defended sinners against such witch hunts.
derocdero 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit I don't think that a second look needs to be made on C.Cordero's part. Just because the majority is against what he's stating, that doesn't mean he's wrong biblically. Remember that the majority of people on earth don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God...I know that doesn't mean that we should rethink our commitment to Christ. One thing we must do(and I did it myself) is look at scripture and how Jesus dealt with sinners and with incorrect teachings.That's what Cdero asked.
bamdaexhorta 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit In context the sword statement that Jesus made was expressing that Jesus demands of unconditional elegance would place him even before family. That has nothing to do with what Bizzle and others have done with Jay-Z. The discipline passage in proverbs says nothing about spreading gossip and stigmatization unless you think such things are forms of discipline. And seriously?, this is all in some way disciplining Jay-Z? How so?
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero There have been so many verses in the bible where God has specifically said If I have assigned you to warn someone about their evil ways and you do not and they die their blood will be on your hands. Thats a strong statement from the lord , who are you to classify bizzles song as gossip? Are you involved in his conversations with God? You don't agree with his method , thats you and your entitled to your opinion.Be careful with how you judge situations.
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit I respect your views here but I just disagree. There are specific applications of Biblical principles and thus individuality is welcomed. However, my argument has been that a specific situation has violated a principle that the body of Christ together must uphold and that is the Gospel of the Lord Jesus.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero Even if he is gossiping , what is it to you ? what does it add to your life in anyway to make this video. Instead of you rejoicing at SOULS that have declared testimonies such as not listening to secular music. Your heavily focused on being right and proving a point on here. I congratulate Bizzle because regardless of anything God has used him and worked through him to touch people who maybe would not have been touched if he hadn't made that song.Im not picking sides
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit What's it to me? According to your individualistic argument below, why are you asking,"What's it to me?" I see a double standard here. But I'll answer, gossip is nothing that a Christian should be engaged in, period, and since I don't think individualistically, because the body of Christ is ONE, I feel the need to publicly rebuke such contra Christianity. I'm not trying to win an argument here. I'm sharing my voice just as much as you're sharing you're voice.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero but i am looking at the bigger picture.Jay z this Jay z that. Who caress??? about JAY Z... you have an opportunity here on this comment board to reach more souls and people are sharing testimonies.. branch off from that instead of being proud and trying to win an argument that i have tried to dismiss several times because ... You dont know Gods thoughts and he can use anyone he wants.. he used a prostitute in the bible and he used Saul as well...he even used a donkey. You dont the
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit Yes, God can use anything but the nature of what he uses doesn't change unless of course he changes it. If not, then it is what it is. A prostitute used is still a prostitute. Being used doesn't negate God's standards of right and wrong. God used other nations to plunder n pillage Israel and yet still held those nations responsible for their wickedness. Speaking of a bigger picture, I think you're missing a crucial part of Biblical narrative here, and that is the Gospels.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero Look love , just leave it. If I am , God will show me in his own time im only 18 lol im still learning..Im not a TD JAKES...im an 18 year old girl from California.. ... all I know is what I know which is bizzle has been a blessing in my life personally...but if i have come across a certain way then i apologize but have a good day (: bye..
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@prettyinpinkxit I never questioned if Bizzle has been a blessing to you. And yes, you have come off as though you know more than someone who has been part of the Christian Hip Hop culture for over 18 years and who was a part of Hip Hop in general for over 30 years. I can go on and on with my "credentials," but I don't need to. What's alarming is that what I have been promoting is Christianity 101 and some Christians are clueless.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero ok
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@derocdero the thoughts of God , so you dont put him in a box. Leave it alone like i said before.
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
@justinWyattcole I agree.!
prettyinpinkxit 1 year ago
Didnt God say,"I will come like a thief in the night."? Well basically, thats what Bizzle did. Came outta nowhere, put his thoughts on the beat, just as you put your thoughts about their thoughts on this here video. Remember, you are not the judge of men, God are, so no matter how much you talk, at the end of the day the people will have to make up their own minds. Realize we are in spiritual warfare, And know that you can't put yourself in Jayz shoes in that way you did UJust don't know the man
Cliffdawgt1 1 year ago
lol no disrepect but you sound like a house nigga. " dont talk about masa"lol im in the field with bizzle I'd rather be on the front line for my farther
Karmadatbitch1 1 year ago
@Karmadatbitch1 You go right ahead and follow Bizzle, I rather follow the Lord Jesus' example he showed in regards to sinners and his example in regards to to self righteous egotistical people who preach condemnation.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero i didnt say i was going to follow him. I'm just saying, all these "play it safe christians" aren't making the world any better hiding in the church and satan still attacking our children. that dont make you mad?
Karmadatbitch1 1 year ago 2
first of all jay z is just down right blasphemous.1st John talks about the anit-christ.......anyone who denies Jesus, or speaks against Jesus, is the anti-christ, they have the spirit of the ani-christ in them...so whether or not he is a free mason is irrelivant....perhaps there is a more subtle way to come at the stars of the hip hop industry, but somebody needs to speak out against these lies and deceit. the youth of our nation parish because they idolize sick minded people like jay z
marlonadair 1 year ago
first of all jay z is just down right blasphemous.1st John talks about the anit-christ.......anyone who denies Jesus, or speaks against Jesus, is the anti-christ, they have the spirit of the ani-christ in them...so whether or not he is a free mason is irrelivant....perhaps there is a more subtle way to come at the stars of the hip hop industry, but somebody needs to speak out against these lies and deceit. the youth of our nation parish because they idolize sick minded people like jay z.
marlonadair 1 year ago
Brother in as much as you insist that we as believers are passing judgment on Jay-z, has he not gone on the record and proved that what we are saying is true.
Has he not gone on the record and claimed he is possessed by spirits,
has he not gone on the record and glorified Lucifer?
Your words are empty, for actions speak louder than words, these wild trees, are bearing wild fruits, woe to the man that calls evil good and good evil.
These are not hypothesis, Jay-Z said it, and we DECODED IT.
candlelightvm 1 year ago
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derocdero, Have you considered Jesus's teaching in Luke 12:51-53. Hear Jesus states that he didnt come to bring peace on earth but rather he came to bring division.Or what about Acts 24:5 hear the Apostle paul was on trial before Felix and what was his charge. The charge against him was that he was a trouble maker and he was stiring up riots all over the world. Or sir have you considered Davids words in psalms 139:21-21 here David states quote"do i not hate those who hate you,o Lord"
PostAgabus 1 year ago
derocdero, Have you considered Jesus's teaching in Luke 12:51-53. Hear Jesus states that he didnt come to bring peace on earth but rather he came to bring division.Or what about Acts 24:5 hear the Apostle paul was on trial before Felix and what was his charge. The charge against him was that he was a trouble maker and he was stiring up riots all over the world. Or sir have you considered Davids words in psalms 139:21-21 here David states quote"do i not hate those who hate you,o Lord"
PostAgabus 1 year ago
He never denied that he wasn't a satanist! He is an Artful Dodger, he will never give a straight answer.;...And he said he believes in one god, not THE GREAT I AM, Jehovah, Maker of Heaven and Earth......... And you have obviously never watched his videos and seen all of the imagery that Jay-Z uses from the Occult, Aliester Crowley to be exact..... You need to do better research my brother and stay in the word.... PEACE, .....P.S. - Re-examine your vision, pray for eyes to see and ears to hear.
MunchkinMusicTV 1 year ago
Man I guess!!! I see what you are saying, but Bizzle as well as many other Christians are trying to expose many other the lies and deception from media, do you not believe in spiritual warfare, do you not see whats going on, Yes God still loves these evil doers, but most like JAY-z actually dissed Jesus and that upsets christians
educatedplaya05 1 year ago
@educatedplaya05 Know one can dis Jesus more than the Roman Government who crucified him on the cross. Jesus already was dissed badly on my behalf.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero But that doesn't make it okay to diss Jesus, he is our savior he still deserves respect so we as Christians should stand up for him. If a man hits my mother then another man calls her a b*tch, im not going to say, its ok to call her a b*tch because she has already been treated worse, by being beat..NO im still going to stand up for her and Jay-z and others that are dissin Jesus are doing it in present time, which is influencing some weak minded people
LyricsNMotion 1 year ago
@derocdero
I can probly see why one who havent done much research on jay-z on his Backmasking Satanist Music Videos, one who disses Yeshua,can be on his side. But! you really gotta check it my man , I didnt see the first part of this vid but its not just jay-z ya know? Ya know Illuminati?Goverment Satanic as they come, fallen angels n the whole 9. But enough with the puppets of lucifer. YAH'WEH (yahaweh) is right at the door
87jason5772 1 year ago
i believe we should love everyone, but i believe we should love our Christian brothers & sisters even more according to the Scriptures! so that means that im going to love and support my fellow Christian believers more than i would the non Christian unbelievers...............especially those who promote satanic or devilish imagery in their music
djlz1 1 year ago
@djlz1 What are you assuming here? That agreeing or disagreeing with someone has to do with love? What does disagreeing with a Christian has to do with loving he/she less? I don't get that.
derocdero 1 year ago
@Airbornebull , sorry to hear that Christians have pushed you away but don't allow them to rob you from a beautiful relationship with Jesus Christ. I hear you bro, is sad.
derocdero 1 year ago
Another good video. and yea I agree with you when you say alot of Christians push people away from the religion(as they did me) Especially these so called Christians on these blog sites. I take it as disrespect if a man is telling you "I don't worship the devil" or "these are my beliefs" and you call him a liar. I think that should be a sin.If a man tells me what he believes. I believe it. when it comes to his faith or soul. Especially if he is not out here killing peopl..Peace
Airbornebull 1 year ago
Hey look everybody A guy from the streets rapping about worldly things changed his LIFE AND GAVE IT TO GOD. But I guess they missed that? Ya'll breaking him down on such meaningless stuff. I don't hear no points on him rapping about the good things he said? Yall only focused on a 10th of the song? What about the last part where he said how we compare ourselves to the worst to feel comfortable in our own sins. HES REACHING AN AUDIENCE THATS DOESNT EVEN GO TO CHURCH BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS?
mystroceo 1 year ago
@mystroceo First, you don't know me to say anything about me. Two, deal with what I'm saying, that's all you have. Three, I have acknowledged that Bizzle means well but his slandering of Jay-Z overrides his call for Jay-Z to repent. His spill goes something like this... Jay-Z is a devil, he's a satanist, he's a freeMason, etc, etc, oh BTW Jay, Jesus loves you and if you get saved I'm with ya but if you don't, expect more slander. Sorry bruh I can't get down wit dat.
derocdero 1 year ago
How come dude has so much info on Bizzle, but none on Jay. The funny part is is that Bizzle wasn't even a Christian rapper at 1st? Bizzle is touching people that don't even go to church. See this is why Christians get a bad rap. They spend more time ragging on each other about how to do Gods work, then doing it. No one has ever addressed Jay publicly & everybody rather play the house nigga. Man I'm glad Bizzle had spoke truth. When Jesus comes back hes coming for War. NOT TO TALK & BE KIND.
mystroceo 1 year ago 11
@mystroceo I don't think Christians get a bad rap for disagreeing with one another, I think they get a bad rapped for mistreating people.
derocdero 1 year ago
@mystroceo AMEN BROTHER
djlz1 1 year ago
@mystroceo Annnd how is anything you typed relative to anything I said?
derocdero 1 year ago
@mystroceo Wow, that is a bit extreme. I've been in the Christian hip hop scene for over ten years now and never have called out someone publicly. But bruh, Bizzle and others have been misrepresenting the call of God. This is not a Christian going up against a Christian because of personal reasons, who cares what I think. This is a Christian going up against a mentality that for quite some time has poisoned urban Christianity.
derocdero 1 year ago
Now i totally agree with you i dont think its a right tool and that we should battle and diss the wordly people since JC did not even waste his time doing it. the other thing is, you are absolutely right when u say too many christians are self conscious and always condemn people. thats something that we should stop and remember that we have to spread love and not hate.
lyricisible 1 year ago
I think yall mixing everything, without being disrepectful, first of all there are people that we cant just save anymore. People who sold their soul to the devil are condemned to the end. its a waste of time to tryna evangelize them. We Christians are at wars with the devils and his disciples and dark angels. its like saying we could save satan, no we cant. I strongly jay z sold his soul to the devils even if he doesn't say it. we are spirituals and we see the way he acts we see his CHARACTER
lyricisible 1 year ago
@lyricisible It's never too late for someone to be reconciled to God. God is stronger than the forces of darkness.
derocdero 1 year ago
@lyricisible AMEN!!!!!
djlz1 1 year ago
you may be right but @ the same time, i think you may be defending Jay-Z a little too much more than is necessary. we at least have to respect Bizzle for speaking out and taking a stand against the evil in the music industry.............there is such a thing as tough love.............do we love people enough to tell them the truth, even if and when it hurts?? its true that we must preach Jesus loves you, but we also have to preach "repent from sin"
djlz1 1 year ago
@djlz1 I might be right about what? About defending Jay-Z, allow me to clarify that I'm not defending Jay-Z per se, I'm pointing out the warped nature of the arguments used by Christians in isolating Jay-Z and others among the countless artists who promote sin, and coming at them with all kinds of accusations. As I said in my other videos, Jay-Z is but a microcosm of the bigger picture of how Christians are to associate themselves with unbelievers.
derocdero 1 year ago
We are to contend for the faith of Jesus Christ and TRUTH!!! NOT COMPROMISE!!!!
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Jude 1:3
jprimouslegal 1 year ago
@jprimouslegal Amen!!!! Glory to the Lord Jesus!!
derocdero 1 year ago
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon [wealth in money or possessions].
Matthew 6:24
jprimouslegal 1 year ago
@jprimouslegal Amen! praise the Lord!
derocdero 1 year ago
I'm sorry bro. But this is exactly what the devil wants us to do. Have a christian go after someone who is being christlike. In the last book of revelations it says christ returns for war. No disrespect bro. But I don't see you taking the time to analyze or breakdown the messages in Jay's song. How come you took the time to analyze Bizzles song? Why haven't you analyzed Jay's song or his message?
mystroceo 1 year ago
I agree with viciousdogproduction 100 percent but Jayz in empire state of mind "and life starts when the church ends and jesus can't save you " I'm still like what !!!
BigBig85 1 year ago
1 Timothy 4:7 Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives’ tales; rather, train yourself to be godly.
1 Timothy 6:20 ...Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge.
People leave this nonsense alone and represent Christ who is love! Truth over rumors all day.
viciousdogproduction 1 year ago
@viciousdogproduction Amen!!!!
derocdero 1 year ago
@ChavonS1985 Sorry but your completely wrong, having read the bible i dont think God needs you to fight for him ...from my understanding Jesus said we should love our enemies ,turn the other cheek & not cast the first stone ... maybe im wrong but if there is a verse in the bible were Jesus asks us to call out people based on rumours & speculation i would like to see it
idontknowwhatimdoin 1 year ago
@idontknowwhatimdoin Exactly. The false witness that you and I are observing is based off of rumors and speculation. I don't about them, but I have always been taught that you don't treat speculation and rumors as facts. This is Christianity 101. Thanks for the support.
derocdero 1 year ago
bruh you are the one misrepresenting Jesus by making up stuff where did the disciples want to burn the samaritans?
where in the bible does Jesus say i did not come to destroy life, etc ? i think this is borderline blasphemy but anyway do what you want its a free world.
God bless
thatdirt 1 year ago
@thatdirt Luke 9:51-56 in the KJV. Some manuscripts do not contain that text but some do. It depends on the Version of the Bible that you're reading. In regards to this being borderline blasphemy? Well that something you have to take up with the bible.
derocdero 1 year ago
@thatdirt I think you need to re-read your bible check out Luke 9:51-62, i think the only one misrepresenting anyone here is you
idontknowwhatimdoin 1 year ago
@idontknowwhatimdoin
um i realize that my statement is broken up and thats my fault. the disciples wanted to call down fire from heaven thats correct but does Jesus say that?
listen @3.20 - 3:45 of the video is that really what happens? does Jesus really say that in luke 9:51-62?
i think theres a lot of people misrepresenting Jesus
thatdirt 1 year ago
Ikay.. I watched both videos and I am appalled that you are so quick to chastise Bizzle for his tracks..video and music on this subject. To love GOD is to hate sin.. it's simple.. Love Jay Z but the sin that he perpetuates and glorifes is not okay!.. And mind you when I was in the world I went to every Jay Z concert.. bumped the music..I idolized and was attracted to him on every level.
ChavonS1985 1 year ago
@ChavonS1985 I'm appalled at sin too. What Bizzle and the rest of the sensationalists are doing is sin. Amen. to love God is to hate sin, no mater whom is doing the sinning. You do know that sin is something tat exist in the Church not just in so called secular artists right?
derocdero 1 year ago
homie, you have no idea what your talkin about, jay-z is a Satanist, he has a million reasons out now an unless he clears those up, we are gonna view him as that....he disrespected Jesus hard on the "On to the next" Video an u gonna tell me that Jay-Z doesn't worship the devil?! i respect your opinion, but i don't agree bro, sorry.... Bizzle's track was GREAT!! an pure truth!!
caseclosedfanatic22 1 year ago
@caseclosedfanatic22 On what basis is he a satanist? Give me any of those millions reasons out that won't fall under scrutiny? Now you do know that if you're wrong you are bearing false witness right?
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero its so much info out there bro, i shouldn't have to break it down to you, its very evident an stuff like that, u can't just wake up an make up, Jay-Z clearly says he believes in one God an it clearly isn't Jesus Christ, the song with Alicia Keys, he clearly said "Jesus can't save you, life starts when the Church ends" pure disrespect, the Freemason song, he didn't clear up nothin, but if people u just wanna hear him deny it, fine, but i don't believe it, he hasn't cleared up anything.
caseclosedfanatic22 1 year ago
@caseclosedfanatic22 Jay really does not have to clear anything up. The accusers need to clear things up because when you put the accusations under scrutiny, they fall apart. Of anything, its the accusers, conspiracy theorists, and fear mungers that have some explaining to do.
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero ok bro, i see that i can't clearly talk to someone who doesn't wanna believe anything on Jay-Z... SMH *gone*
caseclosedfanatic22 1 year ago
@derocdero My man you are as lost as Jay Z. I can't believe this video. I thought at first you were being impartial but you are soooooo far up these Luciferian rappers backsides you cant tell the light from the dark. Use your time and video making skills to promote Christianity, not defend punk ass mainstream hip hop artists. especially those who clearly have no time for the rules laid down by God.
PeaceLovingCriminal 1 year ago
@PeaceLovingCriminal And this is relevant in what way? Are you just mad because I don't buy into the garbage of Illuminate or Killuminate or what ever the sensationalists want to call it?
derocdero 1 year ago
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PeaceLovingCriminal 1 year ago
@PeaceLovingCriminal Is this a straw-man argument because where in my videos do I deny that Jay-Z needs Christ? Where do I deny that he is not carnal/worldly? Are you even listening?
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero taken from the track I run this town....
"Lifes a game but its not fair, I break the rules so I don't care"
What rules is Rhianna talking about? Man made law? No, because she would be locked up right?
Gods Law? Yes I think so unless you know of any other authority that lays down rules/law...
You must be either too good a Christian or a really bad one. Either way your defence of these so called artists is undefendable regardless of what passages you quote.
PeaceLovingCriminal 1 year ago
@PeaceLovingCriminal You done?
derocdero 1 year ago
@derocdero like Bizzle said, he got some explaining to do, the shirts he wear, the videos, all that!!
caseclosedfanatic22 1 year ago
well, I know Bizzle's tactics might not always be the most Christlike, but I don't think it's a bad thing. it would be a horrible thing if every Christian took this approach, but you need at least one person say to "Jay, the symbolism in your videos are promoting satanism!" and there's a whole lot of evidence on Jay-Z, so if Jay has been lying to us the whole time then what makes you think his denial is not lie? the main thing about Biz's 2 diss tracks are that we don't need to listen to Jay-z's
LUKENINE23 1 year ago
@LUKENINE23 (cont.) music because it is promoting evil! but I think "truth music" will only get a buzz from the Christian hip hop community and not all of hip hop like "explaining to do"
LUKENINE23 1 year ago