nice to see the shit stirring evertonian has gone. must be his bedtime. his dad should be done for childabuse. filling his head with lies like "if it wasn't for the reds everton would have won the eurpean cup twice" lmao
i love to read shite off of evertonians. they branded us niggerpool,they sang die nicky die,the sang the baby's not yours,they threw bottles onto the pitch at bellamy,they attacked patrick berger in his car,they attacked a group of fans with bottles outside the 12th man thinking they were reds stabbing one in the neck and then found out the lad they stabbed was a fellow blue! you couldnt make it up lmao
@in2u2b How are you trying to claim any moral highground on racism? Every team was as bad in the 80s. Barnes, for example admits that had he played for Everton instead that he would have been racially abused by Liverpool fans. It was par for the course in those days. If you want to drag up random, sensationalist incidents then I can certainly reply with interest. Liverpool fans attacked and threw bricks at the ambulance taking Alan Smith to hospital. He had broken his leg...
@hiphopefc a handful of kids hanging around the streets attacked the ambulance. this was during the game,are you suggesting these fans left the ground just to attack an ambulance? i know the top football officer at lfc and he's a blue. he tells us all the time about how much worse it is to police evertons games than liverpools. his mate does evertons games home and away,they have far more hassle at blues games than at reds games. please dont take the moral high ground
@in2u2b They pushed a wall onto Juventus fans killing 39 people. They bring banners glorifying Munich to every game. In the suggested videos at the side of this window, you will find a video showing Liverpool fans chanting "Munich". They do this every time they play United. Also the "who's that dying on the runway" chant is aired every time. You will find proof on this site. Meanwhile on the other side of the park we are actively looking for justice for your disaster, Hillsborough...
@hiphopefc the italians gave it the big one from behind a fence. our lads charged them,they ran and caused the wall to fall themselves. as you like saying,it was par for the course in the 80's.i havnt seen a munich banner at all for over 20 years.yes some of ours sing munich,but they give us hillsborough.eveeton used to sing munich too,as much as we did. now you sing hillsborough. yes it's a minority,but no less a minority than the reeds who sing munich
@in2u2b I am astounded at the sheer fiction in some of these comments. You are fresh from RAWK aren't you? This is the last comment I will post in reply to you. No point continuing this.
@hiphopefc ha ha. you're the story teller. the wall that collapsed was at the far end of the terrace. the juventus fans ran away and crushed those at the far end. the only was reds could have pushed a wall onto them is if the wall was between the two sets of fans you dick. i think you're a kid who knows fuck all. you troll vids to do with lfc and tell lies for attention.
@in2u2b Don't forget the grotesque acid attacks of the 80s against United, the racist abuse to John Barnes while he was still a Watford player (which he has spoken about) (Oh the irony),
@hiphopefc you've read too much bullshit. it wasnt acid it was ammonia. i've never heard of barnes being abused in his watford days. is that another evertonian bullshit story. like the one you spread last season saying a blue was murdered outside the king harry. within hours the whole country was calling us murdering redshite thanks to some evertonian lie. typical bluenose liar
i think both players told the truth: suarez didnt know the word was so racially loaded, evra genuinely felt he was being racially abused, and the panel, for some reason or other, decided they believed evra over suarez. that is a preponderance of evidence, which is very far from proof. it just means they believed evra more.
@10YNWA10 Oh my God are you serious? Are you just going to ignore the facts then? Suarez lived in England for a year and Europe for many years. He played with black players regularly and if he used that word ever before the black player would have taken exception and Suarez would have learnt. There is no way he didn't know. Whatever, continue to believe him, be one of THOSE liverpool fans. Believe what you want to believe rather than what is true. Back a known snide. It's what kopites do.
@10YNWA10 *sighs* who said that? Where is the evidence they said it. Where is the evidence the United players said it and why would Evra have been offended if he is called it all the time? This sounds as much like utter bullshit as the cultural differences bile. Again, if Suarez had a defence and the decision was in any reasonable doubt, the ban wouldn't have been given. What we can gather from the panel's decision is that Suarez didn't even bother using that defence so why do you?
@hiphopefc the panel decided based on a preponderance of evidence, not reasonable doubt. there is a huge difference. all the panel decided was that it is more likely evra was telling the truth than suarez
@10YNWA10 No shit. It was very clear Suarez was lying so naturally it was more likely that Evra was telling the truth. The prepondernace of evidence was so heavily one-sided, as I spelled out earlier, it wasn't even close. The evidence of racist abuse vastly outweighed the evidence against. Although Suarez did his best to cast doubt over the decision, it was routine enough and there was no appeal.
@hiphopefc you're missing my point. there was a preponderance of evidence against suarez, but there was definitely reasonable doubt. the reason for judging by a reasonable doubt is that the justice system decided it would be better for a guilty person to get away than for an innocent man to be convicted. if criminal trials were based on preponderance, more criminals would be convicted, but more innocent people would be convicted as well. suarez may be one of those people
@10YNWA10 Want evidence from the last week that Suarez is a liar? Tells his OWN club personally that "I will shake Evra's hand" then walks out there and snubs him. It is astonishing that as a fan of the club that you wish to stick up for him.
@hiphopefc an evertonian playuing the race card? you couldnt make it up! were you are ound when your lot branded us niggerpool and threw bananas at barnes?
@in2u2b "In the 80s you wouldn't go a game without getting racial abuse" - John Barnes. We have moved from the 80s although some haven't. That's not an excuse it's just a fact. "The FA wanted to find S guilty" etc - Wow. Facepalming doesn't cut it. Please tell me you're under the age of 16 ffs.
@hiphopefc you must be under the age of 16. there is hardly any racial abuse anywhere,certainly not enough to make a fuss about.branding someone a racist for referring to someones colour is very dangerous. it can ruin their life and it will almost certainly increase racism,not fight it.i could understand if suarez said "black cunt" like terry did. but he just said "you are black" is that fucking racist?evra wasnt upset at being called black,he saw his chance to play the race card!
@in2u2b No one said he was racist. I don't know where you've got that idea from. You don't have to be proven racist to racially abuse someone. However, if you do you are no better than a racist. He used the term to rile Evra up as he knew it would. That's racial abuse. I don't know how you could reasonably call anything of what I've posted "shite" but it's comments like that which make you look a complete idiot who can't make a point without resorting to abuse.
@hiphopefc you say no one has said he is racist.then you say if you racially abuse someone you are no better than a racist. make your fucking mind up! he didnt even racially abuse evra. john terry called ferdinand a black cunt,that's racial abuse. evra called suarez "south american" in an insulting tone. suarez replied "you are black" what's insulting about that? so it's ok for some black to insult you,threaten you but if you mention he's black you're fucked! that's racism!
@hiphopefc someone tweeted it but i dont think its legit and hasnt been confirmed by the club. seems like it would be a weird time, seeing how he couldnt be sold for months anyway
@hiphopefc the fa wanted to find suarez guilty. they want to show blatter that the english are tougher on racism that the rest of the world. the fa are upset they didnt get the world cup and want blatter out. blatter dismissed what is said on the pitch as trivial so the fa want to show him up.
Suarez racially abused Evra. He may or may not be racist but he racially abused him. He used Evra's skin colour as a weapon to rile him up numerous times during the match. I don't know about anyone else but I don't see a superior moral system in someone who uses race as a form of abuse as opposed to someone who has deep-seated racist beliefs. Both are as disgraceful as the other. Someone who knows racism is wrong and still uses it to rile people up is beyond retarded. He is a snide.
All dis white kids making noise here...your sister's cunt is dirty plz go and lick it and stop opening ur dirty stinky mouths here.....yellow pigs like you..
Oh ye nd TOM u cryin bitch. if he was proud of bein black he wudnt have cryed. he obviously doesnt like it. LIVERPOOL FC. THE ONLY STARTING 11 IN THE PREM WITH NO BLACKS. excl. glen but kelly starts When fit !
u wonder y people r rasist lad. listen to your voice. it dusent matter wer any nigga is from in the country they all sound the same. n der fukin annoyin just like u. nobody likes them. they dont work they just live in shit holes and sponge of society. RACISIM IS ONLY EVER A ONE WAY STREET WITH YOU CUNTS !!! 10black lads rob a granny nothins fukin said. if white lads dun the same but to sombody black its in the paper headlined racist attack. this is a white country so do us a favor lad. FUCK OFF
@hiphopefc he is in the distinct minority of lfc fans. the majority of us realize racism is wrong and supported suarez because his right to due process was violated. if he was actually proven to have racially abused evra (and no, evra's testimony does not count as proof), then i would say yes, 8 match ban, let him learn his lesson.
and @Jonnylfc17, suarez is 1/4 black too, as his grandfather is black. also, raheem sterling will be a star for us in the future. stop making a bad name or our club
@10YNWA10 Of course he racially abused him. He said the word a stupid number of times i.e. every time he spoke to Evra during the match. Agenda. Also, his defence was that it's not offensive in his country. Bullshit. Of course it's not offensive to someone like Suarez. If someone was to call me fat I wouldn't be arsed because I'm thin,. The problem is that Evra just happened to be small and black which is what the word means. Suarez has lived in europe for years and unless he called every...
@10YNWA10 black player he played with "negrito" or "negro" (doubtful to the extreme) and NONE of them EVER took issue with being identified by the colour of their skin (even more unlikely then he will have known that it is offensive to people here. He knew that Evra is european, therefore is not familiar with S. American language black and would be offended and said it to rile him up. That is racist abuse. That is why he was FOUND GUILTY. The independent panel (not the FA) are NOT corrupt...
@10YNWA10 the media are NOT after you or looking to attack an innocent club. The club is NOT innocent. The player was found guilty of racist abuse and the club showed complete contempt for the decision based on the words of Luis Suarez. Read the statement again now. The manager spoke out and brought shame on the club, cringeworthy t-shirts were worn (wtaf), the fans attacked Evra for being racially abused and Suarez and Dalglish capped it all on saturday to complete the mother of all PR...
@10YNWA10 disaters for your club. That is why the media have slaughtered you. Not because you won trophies in the 80s ffs, how deluded can you get? (not that you personally said these things btw). That is why your owners are looking to remove both Suarez and Dalglish in the summer and they have been forced to release apologies. Yet the fans will continue to worship the great martyrs D&S and continue to spew out the bile that those two no marks filled their heads with.
@hiphopefc i want to make it clear that i did NOT support suarez because i am racist. if he was actually proven to be racist, i would have no problem with the suspension. however, the case was based entirely on evra's testimony. i supported him, and continue to do so, because his right to due process was horribly violated. suarez never admitted to making racist statements, not was there any video evidence of it, nor did any other player hear anything.the fa simply decided to believe evra. i am..
@hiphopefc ..not saying evra isn't genuine in believing that suarez was being racist, as he has faced a lot of horrible abuse in the past and any mention of his race, whether intentional or not, will naturally produce some strong feelings. and even if he was only banned for what he admitted to, it would be ok. but surely you see the problem with banning players based on only an opponent's testimony. and surely you see the fa's hypocrisy in not banning terry, or evra (who said "dont touch me you
@hiphopefc south american" to suarez). please dont use the excuse that terry cannot be dealt with until after his trial if he is found guilty, because suarez didn't even have enough evidence against him to WARRANT a trial and he was still banned. and dont use the excuse that it's ok to degrade someone's nationality like evra did,because it's not.
@10YNWA10 What you are saying when you say: "I supported him because it was Evra's word only" is that Evra was lying. That's out of the question. The racially explicit comments from Suarez have been admitted. Forget the fact that none of the incidents were caught on camera etc because Surez admitted everything levelled at him APART FROM RACISM. Based on the fact (which I don't need to dispute) that he may or may not be racist. His defence was purely based on whether he meant it to offend Evra.
@10YNWA10 With that established, let's look at the facts backing up or condemning Suarez's defence. Suarez is South American and was called "negrito" as a young lad because he had black HAIR. And Evra stated that Suarez is not racist. Fair enough. However, Suarez claims to not have known negrito/negro was offensive here. Bitch please, as I've said in earlier comments there is no way that is humanly possible. He'd have to be completely retarded not to know that.
@hiphopefc you obviously don't understand what im trying to say about due process of law. i didn't call evra a liar. as i said, he may have felt suarez had racially abused him, even if suarez did not mean it that way. but it shouldn't matter what evra said. there should need to be actual evidence against suarez. why was this not brought to the crown prosecution service? because there is no way this nonsense would stand up in a court of law.
also, you have not responded to the fa's hypocrisy
@10YNWA10 Mate, this isn't anything to do with a crown court. Not even a magistrates court. It's a petty racism charge. There is no "court of law" procedure to talk about ffs. It was a simple hearing to get to the bottm of a simple issue Please don't tell me kopites are trying to make out that this should have been dealt with in a real court with a judge and jury? *facepalm*.
@10YNWA10 Not wanting to offend you as you're the first kopite not to say "not arsed" or "fck of laaa he's inucent YWNA" but how many times? No evidence is needed if he admitted the charges. He did. The tribunal's duty from there on is to decide whether or not he was guilty based on the facts I discussed earlier. It's a no-brainer.
@10YNWA10 Just as an aside. I study law and I know the process. No offence, but the thought of this case being the subject of thousands of taxpayers' pounds makes skin creep. I am not all too familiar with the Terry case but I know that either way, Suarez would have been found guilty so there's not much of an issue to speak of. Clearly the panel thought that so passed judgement.
@hiphopefc if suarez would have been found guilty, he would have been charged. this is because the court system, unlike the fa, would be able to comprehend basic cultural differences and realize that to him, he was not saying anything racist toward suarez. what i was talking about with the terry case is that there is video evidence of him calling ferdinand a "black cunt," and he has still not been banned and is even being considered for euro, showing the incredible hypocrisy of the F.A.
@10YNWA10 The FA shouldn't be brought into it. Suarez was judged by an independent panel. There was no corruption. This moronic paranoia dreamt up by kopites needs to stop. They can understand cultural differences. Read their statement! They found Suarez guilty because his "cultural differences" defence was BS. You have been supporting a man who uses race as an insult. You have called Evra a lying bastard when all he did was report an offence and have the decency to say Suarez wasn't racist.
@10YNWA10 I am TELLING you that BS wouldn't stand up in a real court. Imagine trying to convince 12 people that someone who has lived in europe for years still didn't know what language was offensive and what wasn't despite playing with black players all his career.
@hiphopefc well im not sure about holland, but i know in some other european countries, such as italy, spain, and france, racism in football is much more tolerated, so it could be that he was just never put in this situation before.
also, he heard manchester united players calling evra "negrito," so he could be justified in thinking it was acceptable.
if there is enough evidence against him to prosecute him, then why has he not been prosecuted?????
@10YNWA10 Racism is not tolerated ANYWHERE. There is no excuse whatever country you are from for racism. End of. Not in holland, spain, anywhere. I could say a hell of a lot worse about that statement you've just made but I'll leave it at that. He lives in England. There is no tolerance here and he knew that. There is no excuse on heaven or earth he or kopites could think of that can make racism anything less than a serious offence.
@hiphopefc i dont think you fully understood what i said in the last post. i didnt mean he got away with being racist before. i meant he could have said things that he didnt know were considered racist in those countries, and since they don't put up nearly as much of a fight against racism as they should, he was never confronted and therefore didnt know what he was doing was inappropriate
@10YNWA10 Ok, let's say this case goes to a criminal court. Your feeble defences (made up of blatant "maybe" and "possibly" straw-clutching) are never ever going to convince 12 people that he didn't mean it offensively. He didn't convince a professional panel so he won't convince a jury. The highest up racism can get is Mags Court so there wouldn't be a jury, it'd be three magistrates who would have this case wrapped up in minutes. I am intrigued as to why you must clutch straws?
@10YNWA10 Christ knows. That's the police's responsibility is it not? The FA did the right thing and got an independent panel to determine whether or not he should be banned. I would suspect the police deemed the issue one that could be handled by the FA. Isolating the Suarez incident from the Terry one, they handled it well. If the Terry case is being dealt with in a court of law, there will be a delay between now and when the case is heard is all i could say. They've stripped him of captaincy
@hiphopefc why should there be a delay? they set the precedent with suarez that the fa hearing is totally distinct from a court case, so why should terry's fa case depend on his court case in any way?
terry's court case is being used as a cowardly cop-our by the f.a., who realize they may need him in euro
@10YNWA10 There is always a delay of up to 6 months in Crown Court due to the lawyers needing to prepare their stuff Often takes weeks. They can't just turn up on the day and do their job properly ffs. Also, a crime can be committed in a second but it may take days for a trial to finish, they pile up, there is obviously a waiting list etc.
Whatever. I don't know enough about the Terry case to judge. And it's clear that you don't really either. Didn't have any effect on the Suarez verdict.
@10YNWA10 Unless you could tell me, for example, what the FA have SAID the reason for the delay is (it might not be normal lawyer delay) and why that is so unreasonable then it is just more straw clutching I'm afraid. At the end of the day Suarez was judged by an independent panel so he'd have been found guilty anyway. No bias was involved. It's not an "FA hearing". The FA just order the hearing.
@10YNWA10 Chosen to eliminate bias. If you still think they are corrupt then that's bad paranoia I'm afraid. Now Fifa I could agree could be corrupt. In fact there is concrete evidence. However, all I've seen from the FA is a good, fair decision regarding Suarez and lenience towards the appalling actions of the club following the decision. I'd just like to ask: how do you feel about the actions of Mr. Dalglish, Suarez, the club and the fans in this?
@hiphopefc i think the pr department has done a nightmare of a job. it should have been made clear from the start that suarez was only being supported because there was reasonable doubt, and that the club would do its best to stamp out racism. also, the support suarez shirts, rather than just saying "support suarez," should have had said something to that effect as well. dalglish is trying to support his players but is probably not a pr superstar and doesnt seem to have been given very much help
@10YNWA10 I'm glad a Liverpool fan actually has the balls to admit that. However, that's sugarcoating it in my opinion. The club didn't just back Suarez on the grounds of reasonable doubt, it backed him blindly and very strongly. It showed a complete lack of respect to the FA and in the end unwittingly supported racist abuse. Mind-numbingly stupid. It, in doing this, let Dalglish loose to spew his bile and piss all over the reputation of the club with his gobshitery and t-shirt wearing...
@10YNWA10 I have zero respect for Dalglish as a professional and even the most level-headed blues I know have said that's it: they have lost all respect for him. To say he is not a PR superstar is really understating it. He's not an honest man who speaks passionately but sometimes gets it wrong. He's a spoilt child who'll do anything to get his way. He won't accept responsibility for anything. Only on saturday he tried to tell the press that he had been told that Suarez had actually shaken...
@10YNWA10 Evra's hand. That's just a lie, I'm afraid. Does he expect people to believe that someone came up to him and told him a bare-faced lie that the handshake had taken place? No. he just wasn't man enough to accept at that moment that his player had made a fool out of him and everyone at the club and he would lie to get out of facing up to it. That's just a tiny fraction of what he's done to lose my respect over the last few weeks. And that's why that night he handed in an apology.
@10YNWA10 Also, you didn't mention the fans. The fans who hang on this no mark's every word and are, as we speak, discussing in a thread on RAWK, the next banner to unveil at Anfield to support the racial abuser. The fans who abused Evra despite the man simply protecting himself and his race from cretins such as Luis Suarez. It is clear that Liverpool's priorities lie nowhere near stopping racism. It's everyone else's fault. Not Liverpool's. It's the media, the FA, Evra, Ferguson's fault etc etc
@10YNWA10 What you have said Liverpool "should" have done is what YOU would have done. Not your club. Your club did not do the right thing. It backed a racist (for want of a better word. And showed no remorse until slapped on the wrist by it's owners.
@hiphopefc not exactly. i think the intentions were good, it was just really bad pr management mixed with a media that was ready to jump all over us. obviously the intention was not to back racism, but to back what i talked about earlier, they just didnt do a good job of making that clear. there are a small minority of "supporters" who are racist, as there are of any club, and their reaction, while totally unacceptable, is one that i think would be seen at any club put in this situation.
@hiphopefc the point is that liverpool did not back a racist: they backed a man who felt that he was falsely accused of racism. i would think that if he admitted or it was proven that he meant it in a racist way, they and the majority of supporters, myself included, would have said yes, ban him for 8 matches and let him learn his lesson. i think ALL parties involved did a terrible job of handling the incident (man utd, evra, the fa, and yes, dalglish and liverpool too). that being said, many
@10YNWA10 Yes, Liverpool did not back racism. What they did was reject the FAs correct and fair ruling out of hand because to find Liverpool guilty you mus be "corrupt" or "jealous". That's the mentality of the supporters who would genuinely tell you that the media are publishing the negative stories because of their success in the 80s *facepalm*. It is the fact that the supporters don't give any ground AT ALL on this issue that confirms this. Many would still say the club have done NOTHING bad.
@10YNWA10 There is a difference between bad PR and complete contempt for the FA's decidion based on the idea that they must be corrupt. The statement came out before any Terry developments and there was no reason to link that story to this one at the time. Suarez did not "think he was falsely accused of racism". At the start of the trial it was firstly determined thanks to Evra's testimony that Luis Suarez was not racist. What was PROVEN was that he used racially explicit language to offend.
@10YNWA10 It is ridiculous that you still can't accept that he racially abused him. It's pointless even trying with Liverpool fans because if you gave them a tape of the incidents they'd try and twist it against Evra and for Suarez. Is that a fair assumption? Yes it is as when given footage of a blatant handshake snub by Suarez, Liverpool fans, no one but Liverpool fans tried desperately to find tiny indications that it was E that snubbed S. Many even managed to convince themselves of it.
@10YNWA10 Liverpool fans don't WANT to know the truth. The WANT to kick up a fuss because thanks to certain people in power at the club they don't believe they can do anything wrong. Liverpool is not a racist club by any means. It has proved that it is certainly not a great ambassador on this front. But then again, in the past neither has Everton. But the difference is not that Liverpool's fans are racist or even that Suarez racially abused Evra (we knew he was a snide anyway). The difference
@10YNWA10 is that Liverpool as a club would not accept the truth. It would not accept the ban and take the opportunity to immediately distance itself from racism. That's why people take the mick with white hoods etc. Liverpool, if they had any class, would have given Suarez a slap on the wrist as, anything, however weak would have done the job. At the end of the day, he was found guilty correctly but Liverpool said the FA is corrupt and Suarez is innocent. When the media took exception to this
@10YNWA10 yep, you guessed it, the media are anti-liverpool, when Fergie called Suarez's actions a disgrace (correctly) the fans slaughtered him. Everyone who has the balls to speak out against Liverpool's behaviour is abused ferociously by Liverpool fans. You've got to forget what Kenny said. Forget the t-shirts and the fuss made. He's apologised for it. Look beyond that and see what everyone else sees. Ferguson, whaever you may think of him, criticised Evra's actions after the game on saturday
@10YNWA10 and we both know what Kenny would have said: "just a bit of banter". Because he and Liverpool can do no wrong. My point is Dalglish is wrong. Liverpool are wrong. Suarez is guilty and no conspiracies of corruption or media bias are ever going to change that. As soon as Livepool accept that fact, that they got it wrong and acknowledge it publically, everyone can move on. The moronic preaching of the Dalglish gospel can stop and they can salvage some pride. They have started to do that
@10YNWA10 But for some reason the fans are praising Dalglish and Suarez as martyrs and still spewing the monstrosities that they have since apologised for. Liverpool fans have even backed the handshake incident "why should he shake that liar's hand" etc. You obviously know he told the truth as, you've said it, but many, in fact the overwhelming majority think he lied. The whole of Anfield called him a liar on TV. Something which he blatantly didn't do. Hypocrisy and ignorance.
@hiphopefc also, for the third time, i never said evra was lying!!!!! ok? he may have honestly believed suarez intended the statements as racial abuse, even if suarez didnt intend them as such
@10YNWA10 He has not been prosecuted!! He has been PUNISHED BY THE FA. You don't go to jail or do community service for petty racism!!!! He served a completely justified ban. I haven't suggested you think Evra is lying for a few comments now, I didn't mean to suggest that I did. 90% of Liverpool fans sang "lying bastard" to him though. Look, kopites can come up with as many excuses as they want but they are just digging a bigger and bigger hole. It's getting embarassing.
@10YNWA10 We can also safely dismiss the defence that he "negrito isn't offensive in S. Am." It's offensive here. Fact. Suarez knew that. Fact. Other facts that don't count in Suarez's favour are, firstly, the ridiculous amount of times he said the word as I've already said and the fact that it was in a heated atmosphere in a match of the most hateful rivalry in the league. It's so patently obvious what's gone on it's unreal. That's why the FA have ignored LFC's pathetic response.
@10YNWA10 On the subject of what Evra said: out of order if true. I don't know what the rules are about xenophobia but they are nowhere near as severe as racial ones. I'm not biased either way I'm just stating facts. Let's remember that no "evidence" was needed against Suarez. He admitted everything therefore it was just down to whether it was to offend. It was case closed. Now, hopefully as you seem bright enough to have grasped that, look at the actions of your club without the tinted specs...
@G36K0 as intelligent and well thought out as your comment is, you seem to be missing the point of why racism is wrong. It is wrong because it is a form of prejudice against a certain set of people after a stupid, idiotic generalisation has been made, such as: liverpool fans 'are all racist scum'. I take it black liverpool fans hate black people to? Good effort G36K0, you're as thick as the racists you hate.
Why the fuck did you write Liverpool 'fans' it was one guy who done this and you assume the whole kop was doing this, you are a low life... not to mention your video is pathetic
MBE for the one fan, MBE for that one fan........even he can work out, the problem we are having in UK, we can see what is going on , but we will becalled RACIST, if we tell the truth.
So let them carry on.
Let them sell drugs and cause riots and turn white into blacl
@IvKruzer Cowards are you lot, who let the Niggers turn West into a shithole, let them win all the rights., and never moan.
I tell all the Blacks in London , what are you good for in the WEST,,,,,,,they get upset and want a fight.
Normal person from abroad talks and you become friends, like in Liverpool all from China put a lot of work into Liverpool, then all the Asians do the same.
Then we have lots of others who put a lot of effort into a RIOT.....who is THAT.
@magadee1000 Shut up you muppet you don't even make sense... Your probably some Dirty Chav who doesn't come out of his house unless it's your sign on time.. Go and shag your sister you dirty Pig
WAS YOU THERE? DID YOU GO TO THE MATCH? WAS YOU SITTING 2 SEATS AWAY FROM THE GUY THAT SHOUTED? CUZ IF YOU DID, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT WAS REALLY SAID AND YOU WOULDN'T BE POSTING B.S. VIDEOS LIKE THIS!!
Look at this person in the video, he's obviously thick and hasn't had the chance of a good education, so don't be too harsh on him. He does not have the intelligence to think things through properly or articulate things well.
@CantBeShook He was released on bail. I suggest you kindly refresh yourself of the criminal justice system's procedure on such matters. I imagine you are not a lawyer. Don't know why, just something about your post.
Why are Liverpool people so racist. I always respected them before these incidents but now feel that this is obviously more than a once off thing. I feel sorry for them.....
@jshana11 it was suarez (who was mistreated in my opinion. his case was VERY far from proven and would never even be considered in a court of law) and one fan. perhaps you may be jumping to conclusions a bit?
@kingalikhan007G Jesus christ, its ignorant people like you that are the reason racism doesn't go away, you take the isolated example of a group of supporters and generalise it over all white people? you're just as racist as the people you complain about.
and havent any of yous ever realised. wer black people live in large numbers in any mayjor city or even a county. weather its mosside. toxteth. compon. brixton or africa. its all shit holes. shit hole slums wer every1 robs eachother and every1s house is a shit heap. and that is the same all over the world. FACTS
ur a horible rat. nice Tom Adeyemi is the second player to cry at anfield in a year. him and Nani the pair of farts. and u lad on this video if i ever see u u will be getting a hefty slap u ham butty lip. everythings rasict when its one way isnt it. its never rasict when a 70year old white woman gets mugged and takes a slap of black kids is it. its never rasict when o loads of blacks fuck 2white kids on ther own for nothin. rasict HA. i can not wait for the up rising!
This is what the, up themselves hard left, have produced. They've done the same with criminals. Come to think of it, most of them are black, aren't they?
If Tom Adeyemi is proven to have misheard what a fan shouted is he going to apologize for overreacting, being a sensitive little wimp and causing all this chaos?
Thank cripes we didn't have just sensitive 20 year old grown men defending this country in 1940.
I WAS THERE! I HEARD WHAT THE GUY SHOUTED! HE SHOUTED "YOU MANC BASTARD!" ADEYEMI MIS-HEARD HIM! THAT'S WHY HE REACTED THE WAY HE DID! THE MEDIA, AS USAUL, HAVE SMELT SHIT AND TRIED TO TURN IT INTO GOLD!
what a fucking uneducated dick
MrCJAY37 6 days ago
nice to see the shit stirring evertonian has gone. must be his bedtime. his dad should be done for childabuse. filling his head with lies like "if it wasn't for the reds everton would have won the eurpean cup twice" lmao
in2u2b 1 week ago
i love to read shite off of evertonians. they branded us niggerpool,they sang die nicky die,the sang the baby's not yours,they threw bottles onto the pitch at bellamy,they attacked patrick berger in his car,they attacked a group of fans with bottles outside the 12th man thinking they were reds stabbing one in the neck and then found out the lad they stabbed was a fellow blue! you couldnt make it up lmao
in2u2b 1 week ago
@in2u2b How are you trying to claim any moral highground on racism? Every team was as bad in the 80s. Barnes, for example admits that had he played for Everton instead that he would have been racially abused by Liverpool fans. It was par for the course in those days. If you want to drag up random, sensationalist incidents then I can certainly reply with interest. Liverpool fans attacked and threw bricks at the ambulance taking Alan Smith to hospital. He had broken his leg...
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc a handful of kids hanging around the streets attacked the ambulance. this was during the game,are you suggesting these fans left the ground just to attack an ambulance? i know the top football officer at lfc and he's a blue. he tells us all the time about how much worse it is to police evertons games than liverpools. his mate does evertons games home and away,they have far more hassle at blues games than at reds games. please dont take the moral high ground
in2u2b 1 week ago
@in2u2b They pushed a wall onto Juventus fans killing 39 people. They bring banners glorifying Munich to every game. In the suggested videos at the side of this window, you will find a video showing Liverpool fans chanting "Munich". They do this every time they play United. Also the "who's that dying on the runway" chant is aired every time. You will find proof on this site. Meanwhile on the other side of the park we are actively looking for justice for your disaster, Hillsborough...
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc the italians gave it the big one from behind a fence. our lads charged them,they ran and caused the wall to fall themselves. as you like saying,it was par for the course in the 80's.i havnt seen a munich banner at all for over 20 years.yes some of ours sing munich,but they give us hillsborough.eveeton used to sing munich too,as much as we did. now you sing hillsborough. yes it's a minority,but no less a minority than the reeds who sing munich
in2u2b 1 week ago
@in2u2b I am astounded at the sheer fiction in some of these comments. You are fresh from RAWK aren't you? This is the last comment I will post in reply to you. No point continuing this.
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc ha ha. you're the story teller. the wall that collapsed was at the far end of the terrace. the juventus fans ran away and crushed those at the far end. the only was reds could have pushed a wall onto them is if the wall was between the two sets of fans you dick. i think you're a kid who knows fuck all. you troll vids to do with lfc and tell lies for attention.
in2u2b 1 week ago
@in2u2b Don't forget the grotesque acid attacks of the 80s against United, the racist abuse to John Barnes while he was still a Watford player (which he has spoken about) (Oh the irony),
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc you've read too much bullshit. it wasnt acid it was ammonia. i've never heard of barnes being abused in his watford days. is that another evertonian bullshit story. like the one you spread last season saying a blue was murdered outside the king harry. within hours the whole country was calling us murdering redshite thanks to some evertonian lie. typical bluenose liar
in2u2b 1 week ago
i think both players told the truth: suarez didnt know the word was so racially loaded, evra genuinely felt he was being racially abused, and the panel, for some reason or other, decided they believed evra over suarez. that is a preponderance of evidence, which is very far from proof. it just means they believed evra more.
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Oh my God are you serious? Are you just going to ignore the facts then? Suarez lived in England for a year and Europe for many years. He played with black players regularly and if he used that word ever before the black player would have taken exception and Suarez would have learnt. There is no way he didn't know. Whatever, continue to believe him, be one of THOSE liverpool fans. Believe what you want to believe rather than what is true. Back a known snide. It's what kopites do.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc suarez heard man united players calling evra negrito, so he may have just never thought to use the word until then
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 *sighs* who said that? Where is the evidence they said it. Where is the evidence the United players said it and why would Evra have been offended if he is called it all the time? This sounds as much like utter bullshit as the cultural differences bile. Again, if Suarez had a defence and the decision was in any reasonable doubt, the ban wouldn't have been given. What we can gather from the panel's decision is that Suarez didn't even bother using that defence so why do you?
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc the panel decided based on a preponderance of evidence, not reasonable doubt. there is a huge difference. all the panel decided was that it is more likely evra was telling the truth than suarez
10YNWA10 1 week ago
@10YNWA10 No shit. It was very clear Suarez was lying so naturally it was more likely that Evra was telling the truth. The prepondernace of evidence was so heavily one-sided, as I spelled out earlier, it wasn't even close. The evidence of racist abuse vastly outweighed the evidence against. Although Suarez did his best to cast doubt over the decision, it was routine enough and there was no appeal.
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc you're missing my point. there was a preponderance of evidence against suarez, but there was definitely reasonable doubt. the reason for judging by a reasonable doubt is that the justice system decided it would be better for a guilty person to get away than for an innocent man to be convicted. if criminal trials were based on preponderance, more criminals would be convicted, but more innocent people would be convicted as well. suarez may be one of those people
10YNWA10 1 week ago
@10YNWA10 That's when you take a look at the evidence and see for yourself that the chances of that being true are minute.
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@10YNWA10 Want evidence from the last week that Suarez is a liar? Tells his OWN club personally that "I will shake Evra's hand" then walks out there and snubs him. It is astonishing that as a fan of the club that you wish to stick up for him.
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc an evertonian playuing the race card? you couldnt make it up! were you are ound when your lot branded us niggerpool and threw bananas at barnes?
in2u2b 1 week ago
@in2u2b "In the 80s you wouldn't go a game without getting racial abuse" - John Barnes. We have moved from the 80s although some haven't. That's not an excuse it's just a fact. "The FA wanted to find S guilty" etc - Wow. Facepalming doesn't cut it. Please tell me you're under the age of 16 ffs.
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc you must be under the age of 16. there is hardly any racial abuse anywhere,certainly not enough to make a fuss about.branding someone a racist for referring to someones colour is very dangerous. it can ruin their life and it will almost certainly increase racism,not fight it.i could understand if suarez said "black cunt" like terry did. but he just said "you are black" is that fucking racist?evra wasnt upset at being called black,he saw his chance to play the race card!
in2u2b 1 week ago
@in2u2b No one said he was racist. I don't know where you've got that idea from. You don't have to be proven racist to racially abuse someone. However, if you do you are no better than a racist. He used the term to rile Evra up as he knew it would. That's racial abuse. I don't know how you could reasonably call anything of what I've posted "shite" but it's comments like that which make you look a complete idiot who can't make a point without resorting to abuse.
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc you say no one has said he is racist.then you say if you racially abuse someone you are no better than a racist. make your fucking mind up! he didnt even racially abuse evra. john terry called ferdinand a black cunt,that's racial abuse. evra called suarez "south american" in an insulting tone. suarez replied "you are black" what's insulting about that? so it's ok for some black to insult you,threaten you but if you mention he's black you're fucked! that's racism!
in2u2b 1 week ago
@10YNWA10 Has Suarez handed in a transfer request btw?
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc someone tweeted it but i dont think its legit and hasnt been confirmed by the club. seems like it would be a weird time, seeing how he couldnt be sold for months anyway
10YNWA10 1 week ago
@10YNWA10 yeah I think it's jarg, I saw the tweet but no one has mentioned it.
hiphopefc 1 week ago
@hiphopefc the fa wanted to find suarez guilty. they want to show blatter that the english are tougher on racism that the rest of the world. the fa are upset they didnt get the world cup and want blatter out. blatter dismissed what is said on the pitch as trivial so the fa want to show him up.
in2u2b 1 week ago
Suarez racially abused Evra. He may or may not be racist but he racially abused him. He used Evra's skin colour as a weapon to rile him up numerous times during the match. I don't know about anyone else but I don't see a superior moral system in someone who uses race as a form of abuse as opposed to someone who has deep-seated racist beliefs. Both are as disgraceful as the other. Someone who knows racism is wrong and still uses it to rile people up is beyond retarded. He is a snide.
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if someone dies it will be dalglish's fault for handling this whole affair like a muppet..the hate between the fans is now at boiling point
GriefTourist 2 weeks ago
Why didn't Liverpool and dalglish appeal if Suarez was innocent? Evra used race card Suarez used race for abuse purpose
iamyou0976 2 weeks ago 2
Oh ye nd TOM u cryin bitch. if he was proud of bein black he wudnt have cryed. he obviously doesnt like it. LIVERPOOL FC. THE ONLY STARTING 11 IN THE PREM WITH NO BLACKS. excl. glen but kelly starts When fit !
Jonnylfc17 2 weeks ago
u wonder y people r rasist lad. listen to your voice. it dusent matter wer any nigga is from in the country they all sound the same. n der fukin annoyin just like u. nobody likes them. they dont work they just live in shit holes and sponge of society. RACISIM IS ONLY EVER A ONE WAY STREET WITH YOU CUNTS !!! 10black lads rob a granny nothins fukin said. if white lads dun the same but to sombody black its in the paper headlined racist attack. this is a white country so do us a favor lad. FUCK OFF
Jonnylfc17 2 weeks ago
@Jonnylfc17 Another racist in in the liverpool ranks.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc he is in the distinct minority of lfc fans. the majority of us realize racism is wrong and supported suarez because his right to due process was violated. if he was actually proven to have racially abused evra (and no, evra's testimony does not count as proof), then i would say yes, 8 match ban, let him learn his lesson.
and @Jonnylfc17, suarez is 1/4 black too, as his grandfather is black. also, raheem sterling will be a star for us in the future. stop making a bad name or our club
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Of course he racially abused him. He said the word a stupid number of times i.e. every time he spoke to Evra during the match. Agenda. Also, his defence was that it's not offensive in his country. Bullshit. Of course it's not offensive to someone like Suarez. If someone was to call me fat I wouldn't be arsed because I'm thin,. The problem is that Evra just happened to be small and black which is what the word means. Suarez has lived in europe for years and unless he called every...
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 black player he played with "negrito" or "negro" (doubtful to the extreme) and NONE of them EVER took issue with being identified by the colour of their skin (even more unlikely then he will have known that it is offensive to people here. He knew that Evra is european, therefore is not familiar with S. American language black and would be offended and said it to rile him up. That is racist abuse. That is why he was FOUND GUILTY. The independent panel (not the FA) are NOT corrupt...
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 the media are NOT after you or looking to attack an innocent club. The club is NOT innocent. The player was found guilty of racist abuse and the club showed complete contempt for the decision based on the words of Luis Suarez. Read the statement again now. The manager spoke out and brought shame on the club, cringeworthy t-shirts were worn (wtaf), the fans attacked Evra for being racially abused and Suarez and Dalglish capped it all on saturday to complete the mother of all PR...
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 disaters for your club. That is why the media have slaughtered you. Not because you won trophies in the 80s ffs, how deluded can you get? (not that you personally said these things btw). That is why your owners are looking to remove both Suarez and Dalglish in the summer and they have been forced to release apologies. Yet the fans will continue to worship the great martyrs D&S and continue to spew out the bile that those two no marks filled their heads with.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc i want to make it clear that i did NOT support suarez because i am racist. if he was actually proven to be racist, i would have no problem with the suspension. however, the case was based entirely on evra's testimony. i supported him, and continue to do so, because his right to due process was horribly violated. suarez never admitted to making racist statements, not was there any video evidence of it, nor did any other player hear anything.the fa simply decided to believe evra. i am..
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc ..not saying evra isn't genuine in believing that suarez was being racist, as he has faced a lot of horrible abuse in the past and any mention of his race, whether intentional or not, will naturally produce some strong feelings. and even if he was only banned for what he admitted to, it would be ok. but surely you see the problem with banning players based on only an opponent's testimony. and surely you see the fa's hypocrisy in not banning terry, or evra (who said "dont touch me you
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc south american" to suarez). please dont use the excuse that terry cannot be dealt with until after his trial if he is found guilty, because suarez didn't even have enough evidence against him to WARRANT a trial and he was still banned. and dont use the excuse that it's ok to degrade someone's nationality like evra did,because it's not.
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 What you are saying when you say: "I supported him because it was Evra's word only" is that Evra was lying. That's out of the question. The racially explicit comments from Suarez have been admitted. Forget the fact that none of the incidents were caught on camera etc because Surez admitted everything levelled at him APART FROM RACISM. Based on the fact (which I don't need to dispute) that he may or may not be racist. His defence was purely based on whether he meant it to offend Evra.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 With that established, let's look at the facts backing up or condemning Suarez's defence. Suarez is South American and was called "negrito" as a young lad because he had black HAIR. And Evra stated that Suarez is not racist. Fair enough. However, Suarez claims to not have known negrito/negro was offensive here. Bitch please, as I've said in earlier comments there is no way that is humanly possible. He'd have to be completely retarded not to know that.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc you obviously don't understand what im trying to say about due process of law. i didn't call evra a liar. as i said, he may have felt suarez had racially abused him, even if suarez did not mean it that way. but it shouldn't matter what evra said. there should need to be actual evidence against suarez. why was this not brought to the crown prosecution service? because there is no way this nonsense would stand up in a court of law.
also, you have not responded to the fa's hypocrisy
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Mate, this isn't anything to do with a crown court. Not even a magistrates court. It's a petty racism charge. There is no "court of law" procedure to talk about ffs. It was a simple hearing to get to the bottm of a simple issue Please don't tell me kopites are trying to make out that this should have been dealt with in a real court with a judge and jury? *facepalm*.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Not wanting to offend you as you're the first kopite not to say "not arsed" or "fck of laaa he's inucent YWNA" but how many times? No evidence is needed if he admitted the charges. He did. The tribunal's duty from there on is to decide whether or not he was guilty based on the facts I discussed earlier. It's a no-brainer.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Just as an aside. I study law and I know the process. No offence, but the thought of this case being the subject of thousands of taxpayers' pounds makes skin creep. I am not all too familiar with the Terry case but I know that either way, Suarez would have been found guilty so there's not much of an issue to speak of. Clearly the panel thought that so passed judgement.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc if suarez would have been found guilty, he would have been charged. this is because the court system, unlike the fa, would be able to comprehend basic cultural differences and realize that to him, he was not saying anything racist toward suarez. what i was talking about with the terry case is that there is video evidence of him calling ferdinand a "black cunt," and he has still not been banned and is even being considered for euro, showing the incredible hypocrisy of the F.A.
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 The FA shouldn't be brought into it. Suarez was judged by an independent panel. There was no corruption. This moronic paranoia dreamt up by kopites needs to stop. They can understand cultural differences. Read their statement! They found Suarez guilty because his "cultural differences" defence was BS. You have been supporting a man who uses race as an insult. You have called Evra a lying bastard when all he did was report an offence and have the decency to say Suarez wasn't racist.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 I am TELLING you that BS wouldn't stand up in a real court. Imagine trying to convince 12 people that someone who has lived in europe for years still didn't know what language was offensive and what wasn't despite playing with black players all his career.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc well im not sure about holland, but i know in some other european countries, such as italy, spain, and france, racism in football is much more tolerated, so it could be that he was just never put in this situation before.
also, he heard manchester united players calling evra "negrito," so he could be justified in thinking it was acceptable.
if there is enough evidence against him to prosecute him, then why has he not been prosecuted?????
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Racism is not tolerated ANYWHERE. There is no excuse whatever country you are from for racism. End of. Not in holland, spain, anywhere. I could say a hell of a lot worse about that statement you've just made but I'll leave it at that. He lives in England. There is no tolerance here and he knew that. There is no excuse on heaven or earth he or kopites could think of that can make racism anything less than a serious offence.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc i dont think you fully understood what i said in the last post. i didnt mean he got away with being racist before. i meant he could have said things that he didnt know were considered racist in those countries, and since they don't put up nearly as much of a fight against racism as they should, he was never confronted and therefore didnt know what he was doing was inappropriate
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Ok, let's say this case goes to a criminal court. Your feeble defences (made up of blatant "maybe" and "possibly" straw-clutching) are never ever going to convince 12 people that he didn't mean it offensively. He didn't convince a professional panel so he won't convince a jury. The highest up racism can get is Mags Court so there wouldn't be a jury, it'd be three magistrates who would have this case wrapped up in minutes. I am intrigued as to why you must clutch straws?
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc if you're so convinced he could be convicted, why havent charges been brought against him?
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Christ knows. That's the police's responsibility is it not? The FA did the right thing and got an independent panel to determine whether or not he should be banned. I would suspect the police deemed the issue one that could be handled by the FA. Isolating the Suarez incident from the Terry one, they handled it well. If the Terry case is being dealt with in a court of law, there will be a delay between now and when the case is heard is all i could say. They've stripped him of captaincy
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc why should there be a delay? they set the precedent with suarez that the fa hearing is totally distinct from a court case, so why should terry's fa case depend on his court case in any way?
terry's court case is being used as a cowardly cop-our by the f.a., who realize they may need him in euro
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 There is always a delay of up to 6 months in Crown Court due to the lawyers needing to prepare their stuff Often takes weeks. They can't just turn up on the day and do their job properly ffs. Also, a crime can be committed in a second but it may take days for a trial to finish, they pile up, there is obviously a waiting list etc.
Whatever. I don't know enough about the Terry case to judge. And it's clear that you don't really either. Didn't have any effect on the Suarez verdict.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Unless you could tell me, for example, what the FA have SAID the reason for the delay is (it might not be normal lawyer delay) and why that is so unreasonable then it is just more straw clutching I'm afraid. At the end of the day Suarez was judged by an independent panel so he'd have been found guilty anyway. No bias was involved. It's not an "FA hearing". The FA just order the hearing.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc an independent panel chosen by the fa. seems about as unbiased and fair as an anti-corruption panel appointed by fifa :P
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Chosen to eliminate bias. If you still think they are corrupt then that's bad paranoia I'm afraid. Now Fifa I could agree could be corrupt. In fact there is concrete evidence. However, all I've seen from the FA is a good, fair decision regarding Suarez and lenience towards the appalling actions of the club following the decision. I'd just like to ask: how do you feel about the actions of Mr. Dalglish, Suarez, the club and the fans in this?
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc i think the pr department has done a nightmare of a job. it should have been made clear from the start that suarez was only being supported because there was reasonable doubt, and that the club would do its best to stamp out racism. also, the support suarez shirts, rather than just saying "support suarez," should have had said something to that effect as well. dalglish is trying to support his players but is probably not a pr superstar and doesnt seem to have been given very much help
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 I'm glad a Liverpool fan actually has the balls to admit that. However, that's sugarcoating it in my opinion. The club didn't just back Suarez on the grounds of reasonable doubt, it backed him blindly and very strongly. It showed a complete lack of respect to the FA and in the end unwittingly supported racist abuse. Mind-numbingly stupid. It, in doing this, let Dalglish loose to spew his bile and piss all over the reputation of the club with his gobshitery and t-shirt wearing...
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 I have zero respect for Dalglish as a professional and even the most level-headed blues I know have said that's it: they have lost all respect for him. To say he is not a PR superstar is really understating it. He's not an honest man who speaks passionately but sometimes gets it wrong. He's a spoilt child who'll do anything to get his way. He won't accept responsibility for anything. Only on saturday he tried to tell the press that he had been told that Suarez had actually shaken...
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Evra's hand. That's just a lie, I'm afraid. Does he expect people to believe that someone came up to him and told him a bare-faced lie that the handshake had taken place? No. he just wasn't man enough to accept at that moment that his player had made a fool out of him and everyone at the club and he would lie to get out of facing up to it. That's just a tiny fraction of what he's done to lose my respect over the last few weeks. And that's why that night he handed in an apology.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Also, you didn't mention the fans. The fans who hang on this no mark's every word and are, as we speak, discussing in a thread on RAWK, the next banner to unveil at Anfield to support the racial abuser. The fans who abused Evra despite the man simply protecting himself and his race from cretins such as Luis Suarez. It is clear that Liverpool's priorities lie nowhere near stopping racism. It's everyone else's fault. Not Liverpool's. It's the media, the FA, Evra, Ferguson's fault etc etc
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 What you have said Liverpool "should" have done is what YOU would have done. Not your club. Your club did not do the right thing. It backed a racist (for want of a better word. And showed no remorse until slapped on the wrist by it's owners.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc not exactly. i think the intentions were good, it was just really bad pr management mixed with a media that was ready to jump all over us. obviously the intention was not to back racism, but to back what i talked about earlier, they just didnt do a good job of making that clear. there are a small minority of "supporters" who are racist, as there are of any club, and their reaction, while totally unacceptable, is one that i think would be seen at any club put in this situation.
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc the point is that liverpool did not back a racist: they backed a man who felt that he was falsely accused of racism. i would think that if he admitted or it was proven that he meant it in a racist way, they and the majority of supporters, myself included, would have said yes, ban him for 8 matches and let him learn his lesson. i think ALL parties involved did a terrible job of handling the incident (man utd, evra, the fa, and yes, dalglish and liverpool too). that being said, many
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Yes, Liverpool did not back racism. What they did was reject the FAs correct and fair ruling out of hand because to find Liverpool guilty you mus be "corrupt" or "jealous". That's the mentality of the supporters who would genuinely tell you that the media are publishing the negative stories because of their success in the 80s *facepalm*. It is the fact that the supporters don't give any ground AT ALL on this issue that confirms this. Many would still say the club have done NOTHING bad.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 There is a difference between bad PR and complete contempt for the FA's decidion based on the idea that they must be corrupt. The statement came out before any Terry developments and there was no reason to link that story to this one at the time. Suarez did not "think he was falsely accused of racism". At the start of the trial it was firstly determined thanks to Evra's testimony that Luis Suarez was not racist. What was PROVEN was that he used racially explicit language to offend.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 It is ridiculous that you still can't accept that he racially abused him. It's pointless even trying with Liverpool fans because if you gave them a tape of the incidents they'd try and twist it against Evra and for Suarez. Is that a fair assumption? Yes it is as when given footage of a blatant handshake snub by Suarez, Liverpool fans, no one but Liverpool fans tried desperately to find tiny indications that it was E that snubbed S. Many even managed to convince themselves of it.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 Liverpool fans don't WANT to know the truth. The WANT to kick up a fuss because thanks to certain people in power at the club they don't believe they can do anything wrong. Liverpool is not a racist club by any means. It has proved that it is certainly not a great ambassador on this front. But then again, in the past neither has Everton. But the difference is not that Liverpool's fans are racist or even that Suarez racially abused Evra (we knew he was a snide anyway). The difference
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 is that Liverpool as a club would not accept the truth. It would not accept the ban and take the opportunity to immediately distance itself from racism. That's why people take the mick with white hoods etc. Liverpool, if they had any class, would have given Suarez a slap on the wrist as, anything, however weak would have done the job. At the end of the day, he was found guilty correctly but Liverpool said the FA is corrupt and Suarez is innocent. When the media took exception to this
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 yep, you guessed it, the media are anti-liverpool, when Fergie called Suarez's actions a disgrace (correctly) the fans slaughtered him. Everyone who has the balls to speak out against Liverpool's behaviour is abused ferociously by Liverpool fans. You've got to forget what Kenny said. Forget the t-shirts and the fuss made. He's apologised for it. Look beyond that and see what everyone else sees. Ferguson, whaever you may think of him, criticised Evra's actions after the game on saturday
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc people who blindly absorb what the media tells them and say "lfc = racist" have no understanding of what happened
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 and we both know what Kenny would have said: "just a bit of banter". Because he and Liverpool can do no wrong. My point is Dalglish is wrong. Liverpool are wrong. Suarez is guilty and no conspiracies of corruption or media bias are ever going to change that. As soon as Livepool accept that fact, that they got it wrong and acknowledge it publically, everyone can move on. The moronic preaching of the Dalglish gospel can stop and they can salvage some pride. They have started to do that
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 But for some reason the fans are praising Dalglish and Suarez as martyrs and still spewing the monstrosities that they have since apologised for. Liverpool fans have even backed the handshake incident "why should he shake that liar's hand" etc. You obviously know he told the truth as, you've said it, but many, in fact the overwhelming majority think he lied. The whole of Anfield called him a liar on TV. Something which he blatantly didn't do. Hypocrisy and ignorance.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc also, for the third time, i never said evra was lying!!!!! ok? he may have honestly believed suarez intended the statements as racial abuse, even if suarez didnt intend them as such
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 He has not been prosecuted!! He has been PUNISHED BY THE FA. You don't go to jail or do community service for petty racism!!!! He served a completely justified ban. I haven't suggested you think Evra is lying for a few comments now, I didn't mean to suggest that I did. 90% of Liverpool fans sang "lying bastard" to him though. Look, kopites can come up with as many excuses as they want but they are just digging a bigger and bigger hole. It's getting embarassing.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@hiphopefc you CAN be prosecuted for racism in england, i.e. what is happening to terry at the moment
10YNWA10 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 We can also safely dismiss the defence that he "negrito isn't offensive in S. Am." It's offensive here. Fact. Suarez knew that. Fact. Other facts that don't count in Suarez's favour are, firstly, the ridiculous amount of times he said the word as I've already said and the fact that it was in a heated atmosphere in a match of the most hateful rivalry in the league. It's so patently obvious what's gone on it's unreal. That's why the FA have ignored LFC's pathetic response.
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
@10YNWA10 On the subject of what Evra said: out of order if true. I don't know what the rules are about xenophobia but they are nowhere near as severe as racial ones. I'm not biased either way I'm just stating facts. Let's remember that no "evidence" was needed against Suarez. He admitted everything therefore it was just down to whether it was to offend. It was case closed. Now, hopefully as you seem bright enough to have grasped that, look at the actions of your club without the tinted specs...
hiphopefc 2 weeks ago
this was trippy and awesome. Please make more videos
DavidByrne85 3 weeks ago
Liverpool fans are not racist, the Media is after them.
I support QPR, but I do go to 4 to 8 matches per year to watch Liverpool.
Never ever Liverpool fans are racist.
If you said Aston Villa, or Stoke....then I will agree.
Liverpool is the leader of football for the world.
magadee1000 4 weeks ago
@magadee1000 Villa!! No way??? Stoke????Liverpool...... The media has had it out for them sice John Barnes days of abuse!!!
DG3744 3 weeks ago
1:52 african monkey with AK
theCZsoldier 1 month ago
liverpool fans being investigated again, because there all racist scum , hope there families get raped
G36K0 1 month ago
@G36K0 nice
simpleearthling 1 month ago
@G36K0 as intelligent and well thought out as your comment is, you seem to be missing the point of why racism is wrong. It is wrong because it is a form of prejudice against a certain set of people after a stupid, idiotic generalisation has been made, such as: liverpool fans 'are all racist scum'. I take it black liverpool fans hate black people to? Good effort G36K0, you're as thick as the racists you hate.
Bsideshit 4 weeks ago 4
Why the fuck did you write Liverpool 'fans' it was one guy who done this and you assume the whole kop was doing this, you are a low life... not to mention your video is pathetic
wilmolfc 1 month ago
MBE for the one fan, MBE for that one fan........even he can work out, the problem we are having in UK, we can see what is going on , but we will becalled RACIST, if we tell the truth.
So let them carry on.
Let them sell drugs and cause riots and turn white into blacl
magadee1000 1 month ago
@magadee1000 Why don't go London and Say this to their face you Coward Scum
IvKruzer 4 weeks ago
@IvKruzer Cowards are you lot, who let the Niggers turn West into a shithole, let them win all the rights., and never moan.
I tell all the Blacks in London , what are you good for in the WEST,,,,,,,they get upset and want a fight.
Normal person from abroad talks and you become friends, like in Liverpool all from China put a lot of work into Liverpool, then all the Asians do the same.
Then we have lots of others who put a lot of effort into a RIOT.....who is THAT.
magadee1000 4 weeks ago
@magadee1000 Shut up you muppet you don't even make sense... Your probably some Dirty Chav who doesn't come out of his house unless it's your sign on time.. Go and shag your sister you dirty Pig
IvKruzer 4 weeks ago
WAS YOU THERE? DID YOU GO TO THE MATCH? WAS YOU SITTING 2 SEATS AWAY FROM THE GUY THAT SHOUTED? CUZ IF YOU DID, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT WAS REALLY SAID AND YOU WOULDN'T BE POSTING B.S. VIDEOS LIKE THIS!!
MrBotty1975 1 month ago
^ this guy doesnt wish he was ksio...
danism123 1 month ago
It was one fan who has been arrested and banned for life.
MrLemmyrules 1 month ago
It was one fan you moronic cunt, Not "Fans" Fucking twat
LFChighlights2012 1 month ago
Look at this person in the video, he's obviously thick and hasn't had the chance of a good education, so don't be too harsh on him. He does not have the intelligence to think things through properly or articulate things well.
THthefirst 1 month ago
its not fans it was one fan, im a strong liverpool fan and it gets annoying when people say it was liverpool fans...
iggydiggy96 1 month ago
@iggydiggy96 One fan was caught and identified, many more were chanting. It's nevever Liverpool fans' fault is it, ever?
THthefirst 1 month ago
@THthefirst caught? He released without charge you complete retard.
CantBeShook 1 month ago
@CantBeShook He was released on bail. I suggest you kindly refresh yourself of the criminal justice system's procedure on such matters. I imagine you are not a lawyer. Don't know why, just something about your post.
THthefirst 1 month ago
@THthefirst Released without charge pending further investigations you utter retard.
CantBeShook 1 month ago
this happen to ll people..not only Liverpool fan..even MU fan extremely racist than other
getahkepingan 1 month ago
Why are Liverpool people so racist. I always respected them before these incidents but now feel that this is obviously more than a once off thing. I feel sorry for them.....
jshana11 1 month ago
@jshana11 it was suarez (who was mistreated in my opinion. his case was VERY far from proven and would never even be considered in a court of law) and one fan. perhaps you may be jumping to conclusions a bit?
10YNWA10 4 weeks ago
if the fucking whites get roasted in their sun bed continually, then racism will leak out of their pig skin glands
kingalikhan007G 1 month ago
@kingalikhan007G Jesus christ, its ignorant people like you that are the reason racism doesn't go away, you take the isolated example of a group of supporters and generalise it over all white people? you're just as racist as the people you complain about.
brownchair94 1 month ago
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fucking white pigs, im going to roast one and spit in it then serve it to the fucking white cunts in the cafe.
kingalikhan007G 1 month ago
and havent any of yous ever realised. wer black people live in large numbers in any mayjor city or even a county. weather its mosside. toxteth. compon. brixton or africa. its all shit holes. shit hole slums wer every1 robs eachother and every1s house is a shit heap. and that is the same all over the world. FACTS
cocainecowboy1991 1 month ago
ur a horible rat. nice Tom Adeyemi is the second player to cry at anfield in a year. him and Nani the pair of farts. and u lad on this video if i ever see u u will be getting a hefty slap u ham butty lip. everythings rasict when its one way isnt it. its never rasict when a 70year old white woman gets mugged and takes a slap of black kids is it. its never rasict when o loads of blacks fuck 2white kids on ther own for nothin. rasict HA. i can not wait for the up rising!
cocainecowboy1991 1 month ago
Man u brought Scholes back .. Arsenal brought Henry back ..Liverpool brought racism back
imawakeish 1 month ago
This is what the, up themselves hard left, have produced. They've done the same with criminals. Come to think of it, most of them are black, aren't they?
availlio 1 month ago
fucking white pigs, im going to roast one and spit in it then serve i to the fucking white cunts in the cafe
kingalikhan007G 1 month ago
@kingalikhan007G Shut up you racist cunt go and die your one of the reasons that racism is around you prick
MrMorgan15 1 month ago
black men have raped white mens women, but white women love it. is that why white men hate blacks ????????
kingalikhan007G 1 month ago
@kingalikhan007G you really are one dumb thick cunt aint ya
imawakeish 1 month ago
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supporters2007 1 month ago
I hate people who view hord. He is one of those dickheads
LozTExotic 1 month ago
FUCK YOU ALL!!! black niggers and white niggers!!! fuck black europe!
worldultrascom 1 month ago
it was 1 fan! god sompeople havent got a fuckin' clue
steveLIVERPOOL2389 1 month ago
LoL, I think it's funny :)
rde1596 1 month ago
What a little black pussy cry baby.
Gonzoidz 1 month ago
@Gonzoidz Fuck you white small dick cunt.
Ifyoureadthisyou1000 1 month ago
@Ifyoureadthisyou1000
and you, smaller brain nigger
Gonzoidz 1 month ago
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If Tom Adeyemi is proven to have misheard what a fan shouted is he going to apologize for overreacting, being a sensitive little wimp and causing all this chaos?
Thank cripes we didn't have just sensitive 20 year old grown men defending this country in 1940.
Big baby.
LaughingGravy31 1 month ago
57 racists
purpleshardcraig 1 month ago
loooooooooooooooooooooool!!
Blazeo2k7 1 month ago
what the fuck is this?
vanhummel 1 month ago
@vanhummel your mum
Ifyoureadthisyou1000 1 month ago
ur a monkey
sadman090 1 month ago
@sadman090 so's your mum
Ifyoureadthisyou1000 1 month ago
@Ifyoureadthisyou1000 u r a baboon and a rat can i buy some hamburgers for u pls??
sadman090 1 month ago
I WAS THERE! I HEARD WHAT THE GUY SHOUTED! HE SHOUTED "YOU MANC BASTARD!" ADEYEMI MIS-HEARD HIM! THAT'S WHY HE REACTED THE WAY HE DID! THE MEDIA, AS USAUL, HAVE SMELT SHIT AND TRIED TO TURN IT INTO GOLD!
MrBotty1975 1 month ago
@MrBotty1975 For gods sake stop writing in caps on every video. Oh and i bet you were at the game. Idiotic troll.
lizardlenny 1 month ago
@MrBotty1975 As an oldham fan, you chat shit
MeanIntervention 1 month ago
@MeanIntervention truth hurts.
MrBotty1975 1 month ago
@MeanIntervention truth hurts.
MrBotty1975 1 month ago
@MrBotty1975 is that true? wouldn't surprise me.
bongofantastico 1 month ago
dude this guy is hilarious quit hatin'!
DICKSQUAAD 1 month ago
Trying to get attention from a news story that has nothing to do with you. Get a life sad man.
FillHellMouth 1 month ago
@FillHellMouth Suck my huge muslim cock please?
Ifyoureadthisyou1000 1 month ago
@Ifyoureadthisyou1000 I'm flattered that you think of me that way, but sorry. I'm just not gay.
FillHellMouth 1 month ago
what a fantastic video, obviously recorded on an High Definition toaster.
Very thought provoking, clever and the acting bit, give the man an Oscar!!
Please let me contribute to this visual feast by adding to the DISLIKE BAR.
There, thats better.
ourobourous2000 1 month ago
cock
1971swampdonkey 1 month ago
PAUL SCHOLES
supermorshu 1 month ago
wot a knob
skimpzd 1 month ago
what the fuck is thissssssssssss you twatttttttttttttt go suck your mum
shinx1994 1 month ago
@shinx1994 Ive already sucked yours
Ifyoureadthisyou1000 1 month ago
black people in liverpool?
brixtonsoulja 1 month ago
ignorant video
antcox2006 1 month ago
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Evra=Nigger.
Suarez=Sand Nigger.
Tom Adeyemi=Crying Hybrid Nigger.
Joleon Lescott=Malformed Hangover Diarrhea Nigger.
assapasila 1 month ago
nice one you have succeeded in fucking everyone off for the sake of 3,407 views you cunt
sco0tty 1 month ago
@sco0tty shut up feet fetish boy
Ifyoureadthisyou1000 1 month ago
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FUCK NIGGERS!
worldultrascom 1 month ago
@worldultrascom FUCK WHITE PEOPLE
Ifyoureadthisyou1000 1 month ago
are u takin the p**s no racism is funny
SAWYOURFLICKS 1 month ago
are u takin the piss no racism is funny
SAWYOURFLICKS 1 month ago