I want to see the vidoe where Clemente smacked reed in the back of the head that same game....Nice one Kstate, Clemente is trash just like your school.
@TheManWitTheFacts Out school is trash? KU has more NCAA violations than they do wins. We can both agree that is a lot. Morningstar's DUI, fight with the football team (which sadly was probably the only win they had all year) Morris shooting a lady with a bee bee gun, Taylor having sex in Allen Fieldhouse, Little beating his girlfriend, Ticket scandles, Arthur's mysterious graduation circumstances, Robinson's bar fight. KSU has Kelly and Pullen recieving improper benefits. That's about it.
Every person, I have ever seen in College basketball covers their stuff when taking a charge, how in the world did someone come to this conclusion when Clemente isn't even hurt?? Maybe I am blind but I see no fault on Morningstar...
Yep, you're blind...covering his stuff and what he did is very different...besides you have to ask yourself, "was he even taking a charge"? I don't think so...or it was the worst ever attempted.
@brandochav Watch the whole video you ignorant baffoon! Go see all the different camera angles and we will see if you have the nerve to even submit a reply. Clemente is so blatant and this video shows a major lack of class towards K-state!
Although, I will not label an entire fan-base/program based on one "ignorant baffoon", such as yourself. Your "logic" and decorum, or lack thereof, makes me laugh...call me Democritus.
Morningstar is clearly covering his own junk! Its called taking a charge, obviously you guys don't play basketball... well that would make sense considering i'm sure you're kstate fans. lol He didn't have position and was called for a foul, then Clemente hit him and deserved a T
... haha not this year. not next year with half of KU leaving. I wouldn't be surprised if KSU beats ku both times we play next year. As for Frank... he got further with a less talented team than Self did. Looks to me that although he may yell, he is a much better motivator.
really? "what does that say about character coach self?" are you fucking kidding me?! frank martin is a greasy bitch that yells at his kids way too fucking much. you are fucking stupid. kansas will always be better than k-state
@jbmaddux but some players don't understand when you just say and you have to yell it, and bill self could man up and yell at his players so their ego will get a little smaller, and that is just him during a game, if you have ever watched a K-state game in person you would know that his daughter comes and sits in his lap in warm-ups
@Pipskan How many elite eight appearances has K-State made? Since you seem to know everything why dont you answer that. Or for that matter, how many times did K-State beat Kansas this year? Dumbass.
They have been to the Elite 8 12 times, including the same year you made the comment...this season K-State beat Kansas once and lost to them once. Over the last 2 years they have the same NCAA record.
To me it looks like they're both just playing basketball.. I mean Morningstar is getting in a good defensive position, and Clemente is just trying to make a play. Do you really think either of them did whatever they did it on purpose? Who is to blame really, except maybe society..
Nothing says trash like some squawk fan attempting to make fun of a legal US citizen. Not only is your comment racist, Clemente is Puerto Rican. Go figure it out dumbshit.
how bout you stop watching KSU vids if it bothers you? You guys cling to the past, talking smack is the only thing that justifies your meaningless life in the homo closet.
Hahaha, play the bit where Clemente smacks Reed upside the head. I'd like to host a debate on which was more flagrant. You pussy cats are like a lingering fart. Smelly and annoying when you're around and can't wait for you to leave.
To KR3Wcholo: no k-state players get caught smoking, but ku players like mario chalmers, darrell arthur, and Aqib Talib get caught during meetings telling them not to
if that little wind-up for a punch counts as a technical then that elbow should have been a multi game suspension.... not just one... wow morningstar didn't get called for a tech, intentional, or a suspension.... wow.. i think they called it right
I saw one video that some crazy KSU fan posted but now I see this video with the official KSU website. That means this was approved by somebody that works for KSU. Morningstar clearly did not through a punch. First of all he would of should a more uppercut motion if he was trying to punch. Second of all he was changing directions so he was swinging his arms to keep his balance. It is proper technique to get more momentum at stronger and more powerful movements. Way to show class KSU.
its fuckin typing dumass, im not speaking. im in 10th grade and i bet im smarter than all the fkin k state students and basketball players, cuz alla dem look heka stupid, pullen, clemente, and my favorite last year was beasley, fkin dope smoker.
well, their actions show how stupid they are so i can LOOK and say they are stupid as this video shows. i dont really care about stupid people, i just HATE K STATE and thier fans who THINK morngingstar "punched" clemente.
Imperative nation, you are the one trying to disgrace the Kansas Jayhawks by posting a video from only one angle that shows what your bias wants to show. All other angles prove that Morningstar didn't throw a punch. It should have been an offensive foul on Clemente to begin with, but they called Morningstar for a block and then Clemente showed his lack of character by throwing the elbow and caught for an intentional technical that changed the course of the game.
I didn't bother reading after your first sentence. If you lack the ability to see who posted the video, then I doubt anything you have to say is note-worthy.
Anyone who knows the game of basketball knows that wasn't a punch. Of course, this is why we lead the series over Kansas State by more than 100 games. Get over it. Your guy not only elbowed Morningstar, then proceeded to slap Reed upside the head later in the game after the dumb idiot missed a free throw on his home court. He cost you the game. You should be angry with him, not us or the refs. HE COST YOU THE GAME!
"Anyone who knows the game of basketball knows that wasn't a punch"
Then I think you have no clue what basketball is. For you to somehow claim Morningstar didn't punch him is beyond me. I'm not going to say what Clemente did was acceptable, but for you to come to this video and state your bullshit shows just how much you loath your own life. Here's a crazy idea, what does Morningstar say he did? I honestly don't hate KU, but when dumbasses like you open your mouth, you only shame your school.
I don't know what that was, but it doesn't look like he made any solid contact with Clemente. It simply looked as if he was attempting to slide in front of Clemente to take a charge, and was bracing himself or hand checking him.
Seriously? This just makes K-State look bad! Here's a bright idea, post something that doesn't portray your star player like the thug piece of crap he is! This is garbage!
Your right, because I'm sure if someone punched you in a basketball game you'd just act like nothing happened.
I know Clemente transfered from Miami because of behavioral issues. Yes, he deserved the T for the elbow. But yet again, you sophomoric KU fans just thing you have a quality comment by going
"ZOMG Clemente is a thug piece of shit!!!11oneoneone"
If that's all you have to offer, then all you're doing is disgracing yourself and the university you root for.
Clemente got Morningstar in the neck before morningstar's mythical punch. BTW, Morningstar's punch is shown from a different angle with an unclenched hand pressed against his own body. There was no punch thrown. You've fallen for the Fatty hype machine.
And, pray-tell, what other angle was that? Because at 0:34 he still has his right hand in a fist. The only way that is possible is if Morningstar unclenched it within about 4/10 of a second. I'm not saying that's impossible, but considering where their bodies are, I'd like to see what camera angle could of caught that.
First off, his hand is never in a fist in that video. His fingers are curled in slightly, but no clenched fist, just a typical playing motion partial fist which can be seen on just about any play of any game.
2nd, the pic from the other view can be seen on the Lawrence Journal World photo gallery from the game at kusports . c o m
You KSU fans think that your players are like saints. More of the KSU players are thugs than I've ever seen at KU. Look at all your players the Bill Snyder recruited in the 90's. They had one of the lowest graduating percentages in the nation. Your basketball program is a joke, and so is this Clemente guy. There are many other angles that show he didn't punch Denis.
if clemente is a joke, why did he get newcomer of the year for big 12? and how could a "joke" tie the big 12 record for points in a game? you are a moron. lol!
wow.. i can't believe you kstate fans... you'll make up anything to defend your own thug.
you didn't even show the other camera angle of the play.. that shows morningstar did nothing. stop coming up with lame excuses for everytime we beat you.
How anyone can claim that Morningstar didn't punch Clemente is beyond me. I think Morningstar's foul was far more severe than Clemente's weak little love tap for which he was T'ed up.
It doesn't really matter. This is what you expect from fans of team frustrated after losing 38 of the last 40 against us. Damn Lucky the Refs didn't see the slap to the head on Reed or he would have been ejected, and possibly even been suspended for a lot longer than just one game. There were several shoves by K-State players that were not detected that you can clearly see watching the replay on ESPN360. K-State was more worried about trying to bait KU than they were trying to play.
CLEARLY NOT FUCKING CLEAR> LEARN THE FUCKING GAME OF BASKETBALL DUMBASS. He was playing Defense! He didn't throw a punch but IT WAS CLEAR that Clemente not only threw the Elbow and then slapped Reed in the side of the Head. THAT IS CALLED "FELONY" IN AMERICA!
Well Morningstars is questionable...it looks like a punch, but its not obvious. Clemente obviously elbowed him in the back, and the ref could clearly see it...so the refs didnt miss a call, they called what they saw...but looking at the replay it does look like morningstar punched him.
Clemente deserved the technical. He through an elbow after the play. I didn't see anything from Morningstar. And Clemente also slapped reed in the head after the game thats why he was suspended for a game.
No class
josh72430 1 month ago
Everyboby nose KU is the best! We are clean, clean, and would not resort to that kind of play. We are FAR above that! Nobody can run with us!
hawk1108 11 months ago
I want to see the vidoe where Clemente smacked reed in the back of the head that same game....Nice one Kstate, Clemente is trash just like your school.
TheManWitTheFacts 11 months ago
@TheManWitTheFacts Out school is trash? KU has more NCAA violations than they do wins. We can both agree that is a lot. Morningstar's DUI, fight with the football team (which sadly was probably the only win they had all year) Morris shooting a lady with a bee bee gun, Taylor having sex in Allen Fieldhouse, Little beating his girlfriend, Ticket scandles, Arthur's mysterious graduation circumstances, Robinson's bar fight. KSU has Kelly and Pullen recieving improper benefits. That's about it.
wildkatfan 10 months ago
Every person, I have ever seen in College basketball covers their stuff when taking a charge, how in the world did someone come to this conclusion when Clemente isn't even hurt?? Maybe I am blind but I see no fault on Morningstar...
Spywell 1 year ago
@Spywell
Yep, you're blind...covering his stuff and what he did is very different...besides you have to ask yourself, "was he even taking a charge"? I don't think so...or it was the worst ever attempted.
brandochav 11 months ago
@brandochav Watch the whole video you ignorant baffoon! Go see all the different camera angles and we will see if you have the nerve to even submit a reply. Clemente is so blatant and this video shows a major lack of class towards K-state!
Spywell 11 months ago
@Spywell
Talk about "a major lack of class"....irony!!!
Although, I will not label an entire fan-base/program based on one "ignorant baffoon", such as yourself. Your "logic" and decorum, or lack thereof, makes me laugh...call me Democritus.
brandochav 11 months ago
i love k state but both of them should have gotten a foul
HodiniProduction 1 year ago
Morningstar is clearly covering his own junk! Its called taking a charge, obviously you guys don't play basketball... well that would make sense considering i'm sure you're kstate fans. lol He didn't have position and was called for a foul, then Clemente hit him and deserved a T
chad61488 1 year ago
convenient that you cut the video off before Clemente threw the elbow.
cdzmo1972 1 year ago 7
he fucking hit him in his nuts, wtf morningstar thats why you can't even shot a fucking free throw
newyear1996 1 year ago
@newyear1996 Guarantee Morningstar is better than you will ever be at basketball thats why he is playing at Kansas and your not.
XxRainingSlayer 1 year ago
... haha not this year. not next year with half of KU leaving. I wouldn't be surprised if KSU beats ku both times we play next year. As for Frank... he got further with a less talented team than Self did. Looks to me that although he may yell, he is a much better motivator.
ksufratcat 1 year ago
really? "what does that say about character coach self?" are you fucking kidding me?! frank martin is a greasy bitch that yells at his kids way too fucking much. you are fucking stupid. kansas will always be better than k-state
jbmaddux 2 years ago
@jbmaddux but some players don't understand when you just say and you have to yell it, and bill self could man up and yell at his players so their ego will get a little smaller, and that is just him during a game, if you have ever watched a K-state game in person you would know that his daughter comes and sits in his lap in warm-ups
newyear1996 1 year ago
hey KANSAS is better than kstate and they always will be
eliza100 2 years ago
@eliza100 ohh yeah, thats why you guys made it to the elite 8 right? OH WAIT! KU lost to NORTHERN IOWA!!! HAHAHAHAHAH! EMAW
Pipskan 1 year ago
@Pipskan How many elite eight appearances has K-State made? Since you seem to know everything why dont you answer that. Or for that matter, how many times did K-State beat Kansas this year? Dumbass.
Cutieandtheblowfish 1 year ago
@Cutieandtheblowfish
They have been to the Elite 8 12 times, including the same year you made the comment...this season K-State beat Kansas once and lost to them once. Over the last 2 years they have the same NCAA record.
brandochav 11 months ago
@eliza100 ohh yeah, thats why you guys made it to the elite 8 right? OH WAIT! KU lost to NORTHERN IOWA!!! HAHAHAHAHAH! EMAW
Pipskan 1 year ago
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jhawk2817 - How about you win 11 or even 7 and then talk to UCLA and Kentucky.
KSU = TRASH
KU= KANSAS'S BIGGEST WHINY PUSSY BRATS
rwelborn08 2 years ago
so uhh.... why did he get T'ed? did he say something after? or was it cuz he used hand to pull morningstar away?
3939allen 2 years ago
@3939allen he elbowd in the back after the whistle
whatsthedeall 2 years ago
@whatsthedeall oh.. what is the point of this video?
3939allen 2 years ago
To me it looks like they're both just playing basketball.. I mean Morningstar is getting in a good defensive position, and Clemente is just trying to make a play. Do you really think either of them did whatever they did it on purpose? Who is to blame really, except maybe society..
kmsirish41 2 years ago 2
/watch?v=SeNbaM0NWi8
bredeagle90 2 years ago
Nothing says trash like some squawk fan attempting to make fun of a legal US citizen. Not only is your comment racist, Clemente is Puerto Rican. Go figure it out dumbshit.
ksucat08 2 years ago
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Morningstar is trash? Clemente is the king of fucking trash..Should he even be in the United States? Is he legal?
11Jayhawk 2 years ago
@11Jayhawk - you don't get out of Kansas much do you?? dumbfuck...and LOL @ morningstar, that alcoholic wigger is like 26 years old!!!
stotty13 2 years ago
hi hater
emoktar 2 years ago
@11Jayhawk fuck u fag yea he's legal d bag
wildcatmatt30 9 months ago
KSU = TRASH
nhardman 2 years ago
Clemente is the bestttt yeahh is the attitude
Goros12 2 years ago
cute.
How about you win a couple of national championships and come talk to us?
jhawk2817 2 years ago
.14?
dirtbags3 2 years ago
how bout you stop watching KSU vids if it bothers you? You guys cling to the past, talking smack is the only thing that justifies your meaningless life in the homo closet.
8gimmegreen8 2 years ago
looked like he went to get a shot in his balls.. nothing big.. just a little shot.. not alot of force.. but still.. PUSSY!
kstatefreak42 2 years ago
Hahaha, play the bit where Clemente smacks Reed upside the head. I'd like to host a debate on which was more flagrant. You pussy cats are like a lingering fart. Smelly and annoying when you're around and can't wait for you to leave.
Dundistimo 2 years ago
Yeah, Morningstar is trash...
PettMB 2 years ago
Back and to the left.
Cedtoron 2 years ago
morningstar like dick in his ass
blackbear113 2 years ago
To KR3Wcholo: no k-state players get caught smoking, but ku players like mario chalmers, darrell arthur, and Aqib Talib get caught during meetings telling them not to
wuteva4eva456 2 years ago
Kansas did nothing wrong except a blocking foul.
buddaman200522 2 years ago
your right.. the hand to the dick doesnt count? lol dumb shit
kstatefreak42 2 years ago
if that little wind-up for a punch counts as a technical then that elbow should have been a multi game suspension.... not just one... wow morningstar didn't get called for a tech, intentional, or a suspension.... wow.. i think they called it right
bulltown 2 years ago
WHERES YOUR GREEN CARD!
kuman1987 2 years ago
Is there such thing as a K-State fan?
JDixIV 2 years ago
I saw one video that some crazy KSU fan posted but now I see this video with the official KSU website. That means this was approved by somebody that works for KSU. Morningstar clearly did not through a punch. First of all he would of should a more uppercut motion if he was trying to punch. Second of all he was changing directions so he was swinging his arms to keep his balance. It is proper technique to get more momentum at stronger and more powerful movements. Way to show class KSU.
timmydabandit 2 years ago
both
NorthyyCP3 2 years ago
clemente.
duh? this is the biggest waste of time.
jidar 2 years ago
morningstars forarm hit clemente a little, but no punch, fkin dumass K state fans dont know what yall is talkin about.
KR3Wcholo 2 years ago
Yes, I suppose we are dumbass K-state fans, but know how to speak proper english.
Congrats to your teachers for doing a job well done!
z42man 2 years ago
its fuckin typing dumass, im not speaking. im in 10th grade and i bet im smarter than all the fkin k state students and basketball players, cuz alla dem look heka stupid, pullen, clemente, and my favorite last year was beasley, fkin dope smoker.
KR3Wcholo 2 years ago
Oh that's a really good system to go by as you grow up through high-school and go on to college...
if someone looks stupid then they probably are.
Good luck with that. Let me know how it works for you.
z42man 2 years ago
well, their actions show how stupid they are so i can LOOK and say they are stupid as this video shows. i dont really care about stupid people, i just HATE K STATE and thier fans who THINK morngingstar "punched" clemente.
KR3Wcholo 2 years ago
Clemente.
fingerbottom 3 years ago
Imperative nation, you are the one trying to disgrace the Kansas Jayhawks by posting a video from only one angle that shows what your bias wants to show. All other angles prove that Morningstar didn't throw a punch. It should have been an offensive foul on Clemente to begin with, but they called Morningstar for a block and then Clemente showed his lack of character by throwing the elbow and caught for an intentional technical that changed the course of the game.
reformcongress 3 years ago
I didn't post the video, moron.
I didn't bother reading after your first sentence. If you lack the ability to see who posted the video, then I doubt anything you have to say is note-worthy.
ImperativeNation 2 years ago
wow, you k state fans are retarded. That clearly wasn't a punch and clemente sucks. Collins would school his ass
jordankcfan 3 years ago
If you look close you can see that the punch is never delivered. It looks like he hit himslef not clemente.
lilwea08 3 years ago
do u seriously think that was a punch? you must all be some pussies then
mvpjvb03 3 years ago
look i think the both think they are good and none of them are
reguetongirl94 3 years ago
what a fucking idiot nice video dip shit your just pissed because k state stands no chance of ever winning a championship in basketball.
ganjahero1605 3 years ago
show the next .5 seconds that shows clemente elbowing him in back and later slaps reed in back of head when back is turned.
beckmakessense 3 years ago
Anyone who knows the game of basketball knows that wasn't a punch. Of course, this is why we lead the series over Kansas State by more than 100 games. Get over it. Your guy not only elbowed Morningstar, then proceeded to slap Reed upside the head later in the game after the dumb idiot missed a free throw on his home court. He cost you the game. You should be angry with him, not us or the refs. HE COST YOU THE GAME!
reformcongress 3 years ago
"Anyone who knows the game of basketball knows that wasn't a punch"
Then I think you have no clue what basketball is. For you to somehow claim Morningstar didn't punch him is beyond me. I'm not going to say what Clemente did was acceptable, but for you to come to this video and state your bullshit shows just how much you loath your own life. Here's a crazy idea, what does Morningstar say he did? I honestly don't hate KU, but when dumbasses like you open your mouth, you only shame your school.
ImperativeNation 3 years ago 2
I don't know what that was, but it doesn't look like he made any solid contact with Clemente. It simply looked as if he was attempting to slide in front of Clemente to take a charge, and was bracing himself or hand checking him.
chewie318d 3 years ago
Seriously? This just makes K-State look bad! Here's a bright idea, post something that doesn't portray your star player like the thug piece of crap he is! This is garbage!
mattarbaiza 3 years ago
Your right, because I'm sure if someone punched you in a basketball game you'd just act like nothing happened.
I know Clemente transfered from Miami because of behavioral issues. Yes, he deserved the T for the elbow. But yet again, you sophomoric KU fans just thing you have a quality comment by going
"ZOMG Clemente is a thug piece of shit!!!11oneoneone"
If that's all you have to offer, then all you're doing is disgracing yourself and the university you root for.
ImperativeNation 2 years ago
Clemente got Morningstar in the neck before morningstar's mythical punch. BTW, Morningstar's punch is shown from a different angle with an unclenched hand pressed against his own body. There was no punch thrown. You've fallen for the Fatty hype machine.
turinab 2 years ago
And, pray-tell, what other angle was that? Because at 0:34 he still has his right hand in a fist. The only way that is possible is if Morningstar unclenched it within about 4/10 of a second. I'm not saying that's impossible, but considering where their bodies are, I'd like to see what camera angle could of caught that.
ImperativeNation 2 years ago
First off, his hand is never in a fist in that video. His fingers are curled in slightly, but no clenched fist, just a typical playing motion partial fist which can be seen on just about any play of any game.
2nd, the pic from the other view can be seen on the Lawrence Journal World photo gallery from the game at kusports . c o m
turinab 2 years ago
You KSU fans think that your players are like saints. More of the KSU players are thugs than I've ever seen at KU. Look at all your players the Bill Snyder recruited in the 90's. They had one of the lowest graduating percentages in the nation. Your basketball program is a joke, and so is this Clemente guy. There are many other angles that show he didn't punch Denis.
begley9 2 years ago
if clemente is a joke, why did he get newcomer of the year for big 12? and how could a "joke" tie the big 12 record for points in a game? you are a moron. lol!
PTConne11 2 years ago
wow.. i can't believe you kstate fans... you'll make up anything to defend your own thug.
you didn't even show the other camera angle of the play.. that shows morningstar did nothing. stop coming up with lame excuses for everytime we beat you.
smallerballer4 3 years ago
Wait you're saying thats not a punch? what a fucking idiot....
runescaper86 3 years ago
Yeah I'm saying thats not a punch.
If you knew anything about basketball you'd know that he was trying to get in position to play defense.
But with a user name like that i can tell you don't know anything about sports.. so i shouldnt try explaining it.
smallerballer4 2 years ago
How anyone can claim that Morningstar didn't punch Clemente is beyond me. I think Morningstar's foul was far more severe than Clemente's weak little love tap for which he was T'ed up.
shaggsCD 3 years ago
It doesn't really matter. This is what you expect from fans of team frustrated after losing 38 of the last 40 against us. Damn Lucky the Refs didn't see the slap to the head on Reed or he would have been ejected, and possibly even been suspended for a lot longer than just one game. There were several shoves by K-State players that were not detected that you can clearly see watching the replay on ESPN360. K-State was more worried about trying to bait KU than they were trying to play.
reformcongress 3 years ago
CLEARLY NOT FUCKING CLEAR> LEARN THE FUCKING GAME OF BASKETBALL DUMBASS. He was playing Defense! He didn't throw a punch but IT WAS CLEAR that Clemente not only threw the Elbow and then slapped Reed in the side of the Head. THAT IS CALLED "FELONY" IN AMERICA!
reformcongress 3 years ago
watch his right hand dipshit!
23smith23 3 years ago
EASY! CLEAR... he fucking swung...with his fist closed...we call that a punch in america.
kstatefreak42 3 years ago 2
Well Morningstars is questionable...it looks like a punch, but its not obvious. Clemente obviously elbowed him in the back, and the ref could clearly see it...so the refs didnt miss a call, they called what they saw...but looking at the replay it does look like morningstar punched him.
gap3221 3 years ago 4
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Wow...K-State Basketball fans are retarded.
mbay999 3 years ago
obviously you're retarded too...
23smith23 3 years ago
Clemente deserved the technical. He through an elbow after the play. I didn't see anything from Morningstar. And Clemente also slapped reed in the head after the game thats why he was suspended for a game.
nsmith3407 3 years ago
Are you serious? That was not a punch. I care about neither of these teams.
ubergoose 3 years ago
Yup. Clear punch. pretty disgusting on moronstars part.
fatty4ksu 3 years ago