@TwinGirlss If you dont like something keep your comments to your self you dont have to be rude. One might think what you said is crazy. No right gives you to judge others ignorantly
ALI HAS NO LINK WITH SHIAS AS ESSA HAS NO LINK WITH CHRISTIANS AND MUSA HAS NO LINK WITH JEWS.
LAST PROPHET,SAW, AND SYEDNA ALI HAS RELATIONSHIP OF MARRIAGE WITH THREE KHULFAS AND SHIAS CURSE THREE KHULFAS AND THUS SHIAS INSULT LAST PROPHET,SAW, AND ALI. SHIAS REJECT QURANIC AYATS. TO HIDE THEIR SATANIC BELIEVEE, SHIAS USE NAME OF ALI. OTHERWISE WHERE ALI WHERE THESE MUNAFIQEENS WHO DO SIJDAS TO HORSE, COFFIN, FLAG AND HAND, WHO BRING THEIR WOMEN ON ROADS TO BEAT BREASTS..
Jesus is the Messiah. God is the God. Jesus delivered us to God, we did not bring him any higher. For all intents and purposes Jesus and Mohammed are on the same level in service to God. Say anything different and you misunderstand Religion. Religion =/= Supremacy. Religion = Understanding.
This is truly shamefull. That a european channel shows this great flow of humanity into Karbala as these millions visit the grandson of the prophet peace be upon him While arab channels that claim they love Ahl- Albayat shuch as Al-arbyia M.B.C ect. shed a complete blind eye. Thats not all but they also disrespect them, on Ashura they show dance, music videos and disrespectfull programs Why the hate? Like the Mufti of Syria said they hide the facts,beacuse their scared people will become Shia.
@Tigris363 no because shia have strange ideas ! just tell me what s better alhaj in bayt allah or in karbala ,does islam say hurt yourselves,why u always say this verse in coran is about ali when coran never talked about him,why do u think sidna alhussein is better than prophets? did god say that! i know some of shia people who say ali is like our prophet and lot of them say that, do u want to began a religion like christians who made jesus a god!
@uzummaki Hello i would love if you would read all the comments that i am going to reply to you with. First all the accusation you claimed against shia are not true. I wish you what get educated on this matter before makeing these comments. Karbala ranks third after Mecca and Medina as the holiest places in shia islam. Whos told you karbala is more important Going to karbala is Mustaḥabb while al haj is Wajib on all muslims And shia hit themselfs as show of sadness and a lament for Imam Hussein.
It is really not part of the Shi'a Aqeedah to beat themselves. But a practice that has been passed down from generations as a sign of respect and to show a liitle of suffering to understand how much Imam Hussein peace be upon him sufferd. Also i do this but i does not hurt my body at all. You have look at the defination of causeing harm to your body because your body is not effected. Smokeing ,eating too much or not doing exercise affects your body, but none seems to ....
care about that and thinks its haram.But when it comes shia mourning the martyrdom of the prophet,s p.b.u.h. grandson all the hatred boils down and were called kafirs. Its natural to beat yourself one you lose someone dear to your heart, emotions take over and its out of your control. And i didnt understand what you were trying to say about Imam Ali p.b.u.h. and the Holy Quarn. Please tell me were you got the idea that Imam Hussein p.b.u.h. is better than all the prophets.
....because that is not a shia belief and a false accusation, you need to stop watching saudi propaganda and open your eyes to the truth. And the only people that think Imam Ali p.b.u.h. is better than the prophets is the Alawites and they are khwarj and not even really muslims. The only difference between sunni and shia is that Shia believe . that only God chooses a vicegerent on Earth, therefore no one else has a choice in the matter. They say rightfull leaders .......
@Tigris363 dear i didn t say that it s ur imams u can search in youtube, or i will send u links where they say that ,i can send u some strange ideas ur imams have, and stop accusing saudi arabia coz they are the best people ever and i know this, some of them are bad but they are nice people , propaganda ? i don t care about propaganda i m just saying what ur imams say and i m happy that u find it strange too
@uzummaki You think i dont know the countless anti shia channels that have came up recently on youtube. They change the speeches of our leaders. They take certain parts and attach them to other parts to make them say something totally different. I hate the saudi goverments because their hypocrits and puppets. They are the ones who are drenched in Iraqi blood. Dont put words in my mouth i never said our imams have strange ideas. Good day to you
@Tigris363 nope when u insult people our prophet saw loved , then it has no sens, when ur imams say that sunni people are the one who killed hossein and u believe them ! islam is not all about ali and hussein and i said i can send u whet ur imams say if u understand arabic without change ! i don t know how u believe in them , do u understand arabic ?
@uzummaki we only insult those who are wrong. and tell me who do you think we insult. Dont just make blind accusations. Listen my freind with all my dignity i heard some sunnis say rathya allah ein Yazid and Muawiya. What does that mean. Does that mean their pleased with them and their actions. How could some people love ahl-albayat and love their killers at the same time this is just absurd.Do you want me to send you videos of lies of what people have accused shia of.
@Tigris363 Yes because Allah azawajal and Prophet Muhammed commanded muslims to beat themselves over the death of a martyr. No this is NOT ISLAM and we all know this. When a good person dies or is martyred you honour them by praying to god for them that is all my brother.
@thesamstaa Your truly are ignorant, you only follow a part of the truth. When alqeda kills shia is that Islam, when they blowup churches and mousqes is that islam, when they rape women is that islam, what is happening in Saudi arabia , bahrain and other gulf countrys is that Islam. No it is not. If you were true muslim you wouldnt know that a martyr never dies. This isnt any martyr this is the prophets grandson (p.b.u.b.) If it wasnt for his sacrifices true Islam would have died out
@Tigris363 I never said Alqeda is islam, Alqeda murder innocent people I agree. What I don't agree on is doing something outside of what was commanded in Islam like beating. Look, Hamza pbuh was the Prophets (pbuh) uncle, he was martyred yet Muslims don't beat themselves up over his death. What is beating yourself going to achieve? You only do it because you were born into a shia family and never thought of what true islam is, in saudia arabia its wrong form them to form there wahabi sect btw.
there is no need in these times to beat ur self ? im a muslim following the sunnah,, but this ? i dont even have words to explain how this iis stupid. shia or not this is just nonsense
@Elifbathajeable Its Maatam. If you have ever done Maatam (doubt it) you would realize that it really isn't a lot of pain. Its painful absolutely, but that's only after the first half hour of doing it. Nothing about this is nonsense. This is how we Shi'as mourn the martydom of the grandson of the Holy Prophet. The Grandson, who like his father, greatly emulated the example set by the Holy Prophet and paid for it with his companions, his family and his life. All for Islam.
@Killzoneguy117 ok, I respect you're "act" for beating ur self ? ,, but still, the quran does not mention that a muslim should beat hiim self,, for our prophets son.. I mean, come on ?? keep it real ... live a normal life as Allah comands us through the Quran :) and ofcorse follow the sunnah, the prophets way of living,, :D / peace ^^ this I tell you will help you live normal and allah will be glad, inshallah ;)
@Elifbathajeable Well at least you aren't one of those genocidal Wahabi maniacs. No one is telling you to do Maatam, we Shi'as do it because we choose to. We don't do it because the Qu'ran told us too, we do it because of our love, and our devotion to Husayn.
@Killzoneguy117 nope, im just a regular muslim follwoing the sunnah fighting for an education lol ,,, anyways, wahabis ? im not so sure of what they are, but im not gonna judge them for being maniacs, it's impoartant to have an open mind and realy see what is going on in the world. And now I gett a clearer vision of you're "beating process" means and I respect it :) but still.. some people (shias) I've seen beat them selfs in the head so blood comes out,,I cannot respekt that lol /peace
@Elifbathajeable That's just a simply more hardcore Maatam to symbolize, what i guess to be a much bigger devotion to Husayn. I respect it because of what it symbolizes.
@Elifbathajeable I just lost any respect I ever potentially had for you. At all. If you honestly believe in this "Illuminati" crap, just give up existing cause that is one of the most bullshit things I have ever heard, ever. In all time. Also, I don't think you understand the word "symbol" properly.
@Killzoneguy117 come to sweden watch the television and u will understand .... illuminati killuminati... zionism WHATEVER something is going on in the media that is crazy, prepering something crazy,
@Killzoneguy117 lol how can you be so sure about that ? why is it war in every country where muslims live ? it meybe aint no groups like that, but as sadly it is to say there is a higher "evil" power that wants to controll the world,, there is no doubt about that. europe people are being more controlled. why all this ? and the economi and so on. something is going on,, u know what? we are going into the darkest ages, perhaps.
@Elifbathajeable There are wars in those countries cause there are problems in those countries. And really, its only the bad Muslim countries. I don't see a war in Turkey, or Bosnia, or Saudi Arabia, or Iran so... yeah. And dude, there isn't a higher power. There isn't a conspiracy to destroy Islam and rule mankind and whatever. If there was a conspiracy, they would probably hide it a lot better. And the economy sucking? I don't wanna go into some hardcore economics to explain that.
@Elifbathajeable If you have a problem with that, go back in time and take it up with "Caliph" Yazid I who decided that he could be a better ruler by killing the beloved Imam of the followers of Ahl al-Bayt. Then we wouldn't have to do this "nonsense". Go on, I'll wait.
@Killzoneguy117 I don't care about Caliph Yazid, Ahl al-Bayt or Sadam Hussein lol... im not being mean meybe they are good people, only Allah knows, all I know is that my "ruler" is Allah,
@Killzoneguy117 need guidence ? read quran ! and follow the steps of our beloved prophet mohammed (pbuh) thats all we need,, no need no counfuzing al bayat or caliph,, u have you're self, ur brain and soul, and plzz ,, don't beat ur self, there is no reason, that cannot be for islam, follow the quran properly, that will be for allah;)
look brothers. we (shias) believe that in the quran it says u should not harm ur self but if that was the case then even claping ur hands hard would be haram cus it would hurt u. so we say that u should not cause MAJOR harm to ur self and this ritual is a way to mourn for a great shaheed and as the best religion we should mourn in the best way.
MUSLIM BIN AQEEL WAS HIDING IN A HOUSE OF "SHIANE ALI" AND THAT SHIA INFORMED IBNE ZIAD ABOUT HIDING OF MUSLIM BIN AQEEL. IBNE ZIAD ARRESTED MUSLIM BIN AQEEL WITH JUST 17 SOLDIERS WHEREAS THAT AREA WAS OCCUPIED BY 18000 SHIAN BUT NOT A SINGLE SHIA CAME TO HELP MUSLIM BIN AQEEL. MUSLIM BIN AQEEL WAS MURDERED DUE TO TREACHERY OF SHIAS. MUSLIM BIN AQEEL ALREADY WROTE TO HUSSAIN " DONT TRUST THEM, THEY ARE SAME SHIAS WHO DECEIVED YOUR FATHER AND BROTHER". NOW THESE MUNAFIQEENS POSE AS AZADARS.
THESE ARE PUNISHING THEMSELVES FOR DECEIVING AND KILLING HUSSAIN, GRANDSON OF LAST PROPHET,SAW. THESE ALL ARE SHIANE YAZID. THEIR FOREFATHERS WERE SHIAS OF KUFA WHO ASSURED HUSSAIN OF THEIR SUPPORT AND INSISTED HIM TO COME TO KUFA. 18000 SHIAS WROTE LETTER TO HUSSAIN AND TOTAL 30000 SHIAS ASSURED HUSSAIN OF THEIR SUPPORT BUT WHEN HUSSAIN REACHED KARBALA, ALL SHIAS DISAPPEARED AND LEFT HUSSAIN ALONE TO BE KILLED BY YAZIDI ARMY WHICH WAS OF 4000 SOLDIERS. THIS IS LANAT OF ALLAH ON SHIAS.
Imam almahdi a.s has appeared and sent his son imam Ahmad Al-Hassan to all the people. So everyone should pledge allegiance to him!! our website the-savior and forum > forum.the-savior will clarify for you inshallah and pls if you have any questions just feel free I am at your service.
OMG! what kind of evil practice is this!? Muslims have defeated pagan arabs with this ritual! I bet this is one of the happiest moments for shaitan to see so many misguided muslims!
@LightSpeed333 yes but you dont understand what and why they are doing ?? you might think you do but you really dont ... i was like you once , until i went to iraq (Kharbalah) and i stood in the middle between these people ...after three days i understood why they do it .. explaining it to you would not get you any where am just saying DONT
@calian0770 Yes because Allah azawajal and Prophet Muhammed commanded muslims to beat themselves over the death of a martyr. No this is NOT ISLAM and we all know this. When a good person dies or is martyred you honour them by praying to god for them that is all my brother.
Evil practice? I hope you're not muslim, cause if you are then you don't know or understand anything. You've only seen it, you've never experienced it or heard about it. You don't even know the story. Please show some respect and stop pretending you're a better muslim by saying stupid things about shia!
@AmelaTurkiye1 The prophets Son in Law daughter and Grand Kids where killed beheaded and poisoned on this week of Ashura so we mourn every year. Nothing wrong with mourning of the slaughter of the Prophets Family.
@asfand472 lol, you're so dignified (sarcastic) that i won't even try to prove it to you, good luck in trying to go to paradise. lol, you really think the prophet (saw) acted like you act. telling people to **** themselves :S.
you're so dignified...good luck in going to paradise with telling people to **** themselves. and why do you need a hadith if you can't even follow the most basic principles of Islam: to respect one another.
@asfand472 it's mourning, when someone dies, you mourn her. the prophet (saw) could not have done this in his life because the tragedy of karbalaa had not happened yet. it happened years after his death. so, it's not written in the quran. and i don't care if you think i'm not muslim, god knows who is and who is not. so, ill say it as long as i live. r
the people who killed Imam Hussein (as) were Yazid and his army. When Yazid went to Kufa to find Imam Hussein (as), he forced shias to turn against Imam Hussein or they would kill them all. later, one of ahlul kufa took his revenge over the Omeyyades. Don't answer to this, i'm sick of reading your unrespectful comments.
@asfand472 hey stupid, if shias arent muslims then why the hell are they allowed to enter mekka? it seems u ignorant wahabis do not follow the prophet (peace be upon him and his progeny) when he said in his wasiah 'kick out the mushrikeen out of jazerat al arab' ....you wahabis consider shia kafir and yet YOU allow them to enter mekka, what a bunch of stupid hyprocrites!
@asfand472 only one word 4 u son of harami yazid lanat beshumarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@asfand472 aww u cant even answer a simple question, why r the shia mushrikeen are allowed to enter mecca? don't wahabies follow the prophet's words?.....u wahabies seem to be very stupid
@asfand472 Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal in his Musnad, vol. 6, p. 274, Number 26391 (edited by al-Arnaut) records that Aisha said: Allah’s Apostle died in my lap. I then placed his head on a pillow AND STARTED DOING ILTIDAM (to beat chest) with the other women AND I BEAT MY FACE.
Shaykh al-Arnaut says: Its chain is hasan on account of Ibn Ishaq
The prophet's wife and the other women did it in ur books. Why do u Nawasibies wail when u see Shias doing the same thing for Imam al-Husayn?
All of you are going to burn in hell for this innovation. HMM i thought the message ended after prophet muhammeds death? i thought that allah created muhammed as the prime example of how every human being should be? i thought that were supposed to follow HIS way of life and how he behaved, and i thought that the quran was completed after HE died? So how can we believe in innovation that was created AFTER muhammed? if muhammed was the prophet and final word of religon?.....istakferallah
Also we shouldn't forget the brutal murder of Hazrat Usman too, I mean that he didn't called the Muslim army to protect him so that Muslim's don't shed the blood of one another. So we should remember this as a lesson and tell others about it.
@hussainmushahid part2 Ali is the right path and right path is with ali" and imam ali was galifa al-muslimeen and muaawia whent in war with imam ali and muwaawia killed 3mar ibn yaser and nabe mohammed s.a.w.w said to 3mar ياعمار تقتلك الفئ الباغيه غريب: تدعوهم الى الجنه ويدعونك الى النار so in this hadith you will see that muaawia was not on the right path and that was a hadith from nabe mohammed s.a.w.w it cant be both of them in the right path its or ali a.s or muaawia in the right path
Lets just end this discussion, lets be friends and brothers :)
Muaawiya was a brave and great soldier but he made a big mistake and went in war with Ali for power and revenge of Usman even knowing that Hazrat Ali was one of the greatest companions of the H.P and can never be wrong.But he and Ali both were mis guided to fight against each others by the Jews so that the unity of Muslims which is the power of the Muslims ends.
but out first imam and prophet is the prophet mohammad peace be upon him.
i wish you say i follow the way of allah. then prophet .then ahl albayt and companions.
the prophet forbidded hitting yourself even when someone close to you dies.so what is the problem really.
im not sunni.nor shiaai.bring me proof and logic about what the prophet wanted and said.and ill follow.but the prophet forbidded hitting ourselves for one person who dies.
If you keep want to arguing like our stupid leaders, both political and religion. Then go ahead, a time will come when all Muslims in the world will face persecutions because of our stupid leaders who kept fighting each other for no reason what so ever for e.g the wahabi king of Saudia Arab who pays Talibans .
After the death of the Holy Prophet, the Jews have always tried their best to destroy Islam and the only method they found was to divide us into castes and I must say they have been successful in doing that. Now a days a Muslim can't even stand one another. There are so many castes and division between the Muslim community it self that only if they finish fighting within them selves, only then they can defeat the enemy. Allah please guide us Muslims to the right path.
u all crazy don't even know any thing about history I don't think there was any shia or sunni in those time they were all muslims its us now who made these nonsence shame on all of us muslims who let americans or any muslim hater to make conflict between us.
the Americans put this demented crazed group in power? WOW. this is clearly unislamic. Well, maybe this is the reason these guys were put in power. No wonder why Muslims call shiites a different religion. I would like to see one of the American proponent of the war on Iraq advocate for spreading this heineous practice in the United States. I want to see Iran allowing this crap on their streets. Why don't they?
@jimmy786UK best way of punishing yourself?? even if you paid me i'll never be a shiia.....and why don't the leaders beat themselves??? huh your all just SICKKK!!!
@islamluv at the time of the prophet, his grandson had not been killed by the Omeyyades (the sahabas as you call them). Learn about the history of islam before talking.
@missbatikha so u think if Imam Hussain was killed during Prophet Muhammad's lifetime he would have approved this sort of activities?His son died in infancy, did he mourn like this? His only supporter during tough times Khadija died, did he mourn like this? His uncle Hamza was killed in the battlefield n his liver was chewed by Hinda n nose n ears were cut off did Muhammad mourn like this?
He who slaps his cheeks, tears his clothes, and cries out in the manner of jahiliyyah is not of us(Bukhari)
@islamluv@islamluv at the time of the prophet, his grandson (Imam Hussein) had not yet been killed by the Omeyyades (the sahabas as you call them). Learn about the history of islam before talking.
@islamluv@islamluv at the time of the prophet (saw), his grandson, imam hussein (as), had not been killed by the Omeyyades (the sahabas as you call them). Learn about the history of islam before talking. btw, when imam hussein was born, the prophet used to cry over him because he knew he was going to be killed in a tragic way (he has been beheaded after fighting with Yazid army)
@pfdracula that make no sense....sunni like yazeed and shimir.....we shia hate them secondly....I found it funny because the followers of the prophets family we call them shia....shimir and yazeed are sunnis als umar and abu bakr who r mainlyinvolved in killing our beloved fatima al zahra daughter of the prophet...you dont believe me look in al bugary brother is not only in shia books also in sunni books
Who said Sunni's like Yazeed? We only respect Muaawiya but that doesn't mean we don't respect Hazrat Ali. There are certain munafiqueen who name them selfs as Muslims and started all of this and till this day they are destroying Islam by dividing us into castes. All Muslims are to believe in the Incident of Karbala and should take it as a guide. These munafiqueen caused fights between the Muslims and till this day we are suffering from them.
@hussainmushahid you like ali and muaawiya....and muaawiya went in war with imam ali a.s in the battle of sufin and the prophet said to 3mar ibn yaser "ياعمار تقتلك الفئ الباغيه تدعوهم الى الجنه ويدعونك الى النار " ... that the prophet told 3mar that he should fight with ali a.s and he was bringing people to the path of ali a.s but the soldiers of muaawiya killed 3mar in the battle of sufian because he was with ali a.s i have a question for you;
you still didn't understand what I said, I respect Muaawiya, he was a brave soldier who expanded the Muslim empire in the time of Hazrat Umar and Hazrat Usman. Yes he did made mistakes and even Hazrat Ali made political mistakes because of certain Munafiqueen who were tricking them to fight each other. You know how Hazrat Usman was murdered? After that Hazrat Ali became Caliph, but do you think Hazrat Ali had the powers? No he did not, it was the munafiqueen who had the powers.
I am not to follow either Hazrat Ali or Muaawiya, I am to follow Quran and the Holy Prophet. No one knows what exactly happened in the events after the death of the H.P, History was written by the people and those people are not always correct.You beleive Muaawiya was a bad guy but I don't and thats because of History.
Its time we forget all of this and stop letting our enemies the jews to get ahead of us.
@hussainmushahid Lanat on you if you don't think muaawiya(lanat) wasn't a bad guy !! lanat on your family n your on coming generation... may your life b misrable lanat on u lanat lanat n lanat !! tubah!! tubah !! can't belive u actually said yazeed(lanat) wasn't a bad guy !!
@hussainmushahid I have a qiestion who was in the right path muaawia or imam ali a.s second question who was galifa al muslimeen muaawia or imam ali a.s third question if you you where at that time who will you be with in the battle field muaawia or imam ali a.s
Ans Q3, I would support Hazrat Ali because of his significance.
We should never forget that Muaawiya was also a companion of the Holy Prophet, he fought many wars and expanded the Muslim empire. He was also made governor by Hazrat Umar and remained governor in the time of Hazrat Usman the people of Damascus loved him. So how can he be a bad guy? He wasn't bad but he did mistakes.
@hussainmushahid part1 thank you for answer my question and dont get offended we are having just a respectful argument we are to people who are trying to find the right path my brother anyways in your mind will you accept the killer and person who died both going to heaven.... secondly brother listen in the war battle of sufian 20,000 muslims died do you know who is responsible....nabe mohammed s.a.w.w said "follow imam
Im Muslim and i believe both Sunna, Shia are the same Islam. Two sects could live besides to eachother just as it was in the past Iraq for Thousand of years.
if shia was the only islam id just be an athiest cuz anything that harms u is logically wrong and immorally haram in Islam. i laugh watching retarted shit like this hahahaha fucking dumbasses!!
hahah as if this is going to tacke you to janah hey i have a better idea 4 you its better if you killed your selfs once and for all instead of torturing your selfs every year and stop telling kids that by torturing them selfs they are mourning ali and husain may allah be pleased with them look Allah has never asked any one to torture them selfs for no one so dont lie to the kids any more as humans we are dumb some times we believe things with out searching for the truth search for Allah sake
Allhamdollilah i m a shia , shiat is not only beating our body,actually its this that what type of heart u have.or we can say that on which side u r.with the mazloom or zalim .i guess that holy quran and rasool s.a.w always taught us to favour the right one. so go and increase ur knowledge .dont day that we are kafirs.
It goes a little something like this... These guys have no place in Islam. They're a bunch of jokers who are trying to repent for something that happened centuries ago. Repentance is via prayer. There is no way that Islam condones flaggelation and this is why these people are on the periphery of Islam - some would argue that they are devoid of faith...
@jasonthemankiller Sure e are. How is that? we are not the ones who CRAWL to Hussein's grave (Shirk). We aren't the ones who have states of THEOCRACY (against the Koran). We aren't the ones who BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF OUR SELVES (Against the Koran). We aren't the ones who bleed for the dead (also against the Koran).
So who is the Kaffir here you stupid Shi'te. Go beat up your self, asshole.
@khaled565 ,, yeah u mean killing and blowing inoccent people in iraq and all over the world is an act of islam, and in the name of islam.. your people mislead the image of islam. go search your self first.
Human have a different ways to reduce greave and pain. If you lose your love ones I am sure you will see different ways to reduce the pain around you, it is natural. If you do not reduce your pain in the shape of crying or some other ways than you will be in very deep depression.
Do you know how many family members of Prophet Mohammad (P.B.O.H) martyred in karbala ?
@kamalsemmane:We have a lot of things in our life that we can not do but Prophet Mohammad (P.B.O.H) was used to do. Prophet Mohammad (P.B.O.H) recite kalima There is no god but God and I am his Messenger but we recite There is no god but God and Mohammad (P.B.O.H) his Messenger.
Have you ever seen a Palestinians Mother beating herself after loosing her Son or love one? I am sure we all have seen that but I have never read or heard voices against her style of greave.
Should people start adding a part for asking questions about current issues in this rituals? The real pain is not from how people beating up themselves because they can still singing and dancing as we all observed here. The real pain is from people beating up each others, I think not many would remember those songs then.
@huss323 the beating with knives and chains has been forbidden but the shiite muslim leaders...btw, i've touched the chains and they are not true chains...it's very light.
those people.. do they don't see what some crazy sh*t they are doing?!
It's a shame to see shi'as doing that, IM ALHUMDULILAH SO MUCH THANKFULL TO ALLAH SWT THAT I'M NOT A SHI'A.
BECAUSE NOW I KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM AND GOT REALLY SCARED ABOUT WHAT I SAW IN OTHER VIDEOS.
THIS IS NOT A RELIGION, THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT THEY DO IS TOTALLY CRAZY.
TwinGirlss 1 month ago
@TwinGirlss If you dont like something keep your comments to your self you dont have to be rude. One might think what you said is crazy. No right gives you to judge others ignorantly
Tigris363 1 month ago
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ALI HAS NO LINK WITH SHIAS AS ESSA HAS NO LINK WITH CHRISTIANS AND MUSA HAS NO LINK WITH JEWS.
LAST PROPHET,SAW, AND SYEDNA ALI HAS RELATIONSHIP OF MARRIAGE WITH THREE KHULFAS AND SHIAS CURSE THREE KHULFAS AND THUS SHIAS INSULT LAST PROPHET,SAW, AND ALI. SHIAS REJECT QURANIC AYATS. TO HIDE THEIR SATANIC BELIEVEE, SHIAS USE NAME OF ALI. OTHERWISE WHERE ALI WHERE THESE MUNAFIQEENS WHO DO SIJDAS TO HORSE, COFFIN, FLAG AND HAND, WHO BRING THEIR WOMEN ON ROADS TO BEAT BREASTS..
Islam1491 1 month ago
whats the name of the basem al karbalai latmiya being played
i7k9n 2 months ago
Jesus is the Messiah. God is the God. Jesus delivered us to God, we did not bring him any higher. For all intents and purposes Jesus and Mohammed are on the same level in service to God. Say anything different and you misunderstand Religion. Religion =/= Supremacy. Religion = Understanding.
Thallod 2 months ago
This is truly shamefull. That a european channel shows this great flow of humanity into Karbala as these millions visit the grandson of the prophet peace be upon him While arab channels that claim they love Ahl- Albayat shuch as Al-arbyia M.B.C ect. shed a complete blind eye. Thats not all but they also disrespect them, on Ashura they show dance, music videos and disrespectfull programs Why the hate? Like the Mufti of Syria said they hide the facts,beacuse their scared people will become Shia.
Tigris363 2 months ago 6
@Tigris363 no because shia have strange ideas ! just tell me what s better alhaj in bayt allah or in karbala ,does islam say hurt yourselves,why u always say this verse in coran is about ali when coran never talked about him,why do u think sidna alhussein is better than prophets? did god say that! i know some of shia people who say ali is like our prophet and lot of them say that, do u want to began a religion like christians who made jesus a god!
uzummaki 2 months ago
@uzummaki Hello i would love if you would read all the comments that i am going to reply to you with. First all the accusation you claimed against shia are not true. I wish you what get educated on this matter before makeing these comments. Karbala ranks third after Mecca and Medina as the holiest places in shia islam. Whos told you karbala is more important Going to karbala is Mustaḥabb while al haj is Wajib on all muslims And shia hit themselfs as show of sadness and a lament for Imam Hussein.
Tigris363 2 months ago
@uzummaki Comment 2
It is really not part of the Shi'a Aqeedah to beat themselves. But a practice that has been passed down from generations as a sign of respect and to show a liitle of suffering to understand how much Imam Hussein peace be upon him sufferd. Also i do this but i does not hurt my body at all. You have look at the defination of causeing harm to your body because your body is not effected. Smokeing ,eating too much or not doing exercise affects your body, but none seems to ....
Tigris363 2 months ago
@uzummaki Comment 3
care about that and thinks its haram.But when it comes shia mourning the martyrdom of the prophet,s p.b.u.h. grandson all the hatred boils down and were called kafirs. Its natural to beat yourself one you lose someone dear to your heart, emotions take over and its out of your control. And i didnt understand what you were trying to say about Imam Ali p.b.u.h. and the Holy Quarn. Please tell me were you got the idea that Imam Hussein p.b.u.h. is better than all the prophets.
Tigris363 2 months ago
@uzummaki Comment 4
....because that is not a shia belief and a false accusation, you need to stop watching saudi propaganda and open your eyes to the truth. And the only people that think Imam Ali p.b.u.h. is better than the prophets is the Alawites and they are khwarj and not even really muslims. The only difference between sunni and shia is that Shia believe . that only God chooses a vicegerent on Earth, therefore no one else has a choice in the matter. They say rightfull leaders .......
Tigris363 2 months ago
@Tigris363 dear i didn t say that it s ur imams u can search in youtube, or i will send u links where they say that ,i can send u some strange ideas ur imams have, and stop accusing saudi arabia coz they are the best people ever and i know this, some of them are bad but they are nice people , propaganda ? i don t care about propaganda i m just saying what ur imams say and i m happy that u find it strange too
uzummaki 1 month ago
@uzummaki You think i dont know the countless anti shia channels that have came up recently on youtube. They change the speeches of our leaders. They take certain parts and attach them to other parts to make them say something totally different. I hate the saudi goverments because their hypocrits and puppets. They are the ones who are drenched in Iraqi blood. Dont put words in my mouth i never said our imams have strange ideas. Good day to you
Tigris363 1 month ago
@Tigris363 nope when u insult people our prophet saw loved , then it has no sens, when ur imams say that sunni people are the one who killed hossein and u believe them ! islam is not all about ali and hussein and i said i can send u whet ur imams say if u understand arabic without change ! i don t know how u believe in them , do u understand arabic ?
uzummaki 1 month ago
@uzummaki we only insult those who are wrong. and tell me who do you think we insult. Dont just make blind accusations. Listen my freind with all my dignity i heard some sunnis say rathya allah ein Yazid and Muawiya. What does that mean. Does that mean their pleased with them and their actions. How could some people love ahl-albayat and love their killers at the same time this is just absurd.Do you want me to send you videos of lies of what people have accused shia of.
Tigris363 1 month ago
@uzummaki And we dont insult out of thin air. we insult those who have commited crimes we say may Allah punish them is that what you call insulting
Tigris363 1 month ago
@uzummaki Comment 5
.......of Islam were and are Imam Ali p.b.u.h.and his progeny. Not elected officals
Tigris363 2 months ago
@Tigris363 Yes because Allah azawajal and Prophet Muhammed commanded muslims to beat themselves over the death of a martyr. No this is NOT ISLAM and we all know this. When a good person dies or is martyred you honour them by praying to god for them that is all my brother.
thesamstaa 4 days ago
@thesamstaa Your truly are ignorant, you only follow a part of the truth. When alqeda kills shia is that Islam, when they blowup churches and mousqes is that islam, when they rape women is that islam, what is happening in Saudi arabia , bahrain and other gulf countrys is that Islam. No it is not. If you were true muslim you wouldnt know that a martyr never dies. This isnt any martyr this is the prophets grandson (p.b.u.b.) If it wasnt for his sacrifices true Islam would have died out
Tigris363 2 days ago
@Tigris363 I never said Alqeda is islam, Alqeda murder innocent people I agree. What I don't agree on is doing something outside of what was commanded in Islam like beating. Look, Hamza pbuh was the Prophets (pbuh) uncle, he was martyred yet Muslims don't beat themselves up over his death. What is beating yourself going to achieve? You only do it because you were born into a shia family and never thought of what true islam is, in saudia arabia its wrong form them to form there wahabi sect btw.
thesamstaa 1 day ago
there is no need in these times to beat ur self ? im a muslim following the sunnah,, but this ? i dont even have words to explain how this iis stupid. shia or not this is just nonsense
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Elifbathajeable Its Maatam. If you have ever done Maatam (doubt it) you would realize that it really isn't a lot of pain. Its painful absolutely, but that's only after the first half hour of doing it. Nothing about this is nonsense. This is how we Shi'as mourn the martydom of the grandson of the Holy Prophet. The Grandson, who like his father, greatly emulated the example set by the Holy Prophet and paid for it with his companions, his family and his life. All for Islam.
Killzoneguy117 2 months ago
@Killzoneguy117 ok, I respect you're "act" for beating ur self ? ,, but still, the quran does not mention that a muslim should beat hiim self,, for our prophets son.. I mean, come on ?? keep it real ... live a normal life as Allah comands us through the Quran :) and ofcorse follow the sunnah, the prophets way of living,, :D / peace ^^ this I tell you will help you live normal and allah will be glad, inshallah ;)
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Elifbathajeable Well at least you aren't one of those genocidal Wahabi maniacs. No one is telling you to do Maatam, we Shi'as do it because we choose to. We don't do it because the Qu'ran told us too, we do it because of our love, and our devotion to Husayn.
Killzoneguy117 2 months ago
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Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Killzoneguy117 nope, im just a regular muslim follwoing the sunnah fighting for an education lol ,,, anyways, wahabis ? im not so sure of what they are, but im not gonna judge them for being maniacs, it's impoartant to have an open mind and realy see what is going on in the world. And now I gett a clearer vision of you're "beating process" means and I respect it :) but still.. some people (shias) I've seen beat them selfs in the head so blood comes out,,I cannot respekt that lol /peace
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Elifbathajeable That's just a simply more hardcore Maatam to symbolize, what i guess to be a much bigger devotion to Husayn. I respect it because of what it symbolizes.
Killzoneguy117 2 months ago
@Killzoneguy117 oki ,, I hate symbolizm :D
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Killzoneguy117 symbolizm is tooo much of illuminatic for me,, and sorry to say, u shias are following that path,, sadly :/
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Elifbathajeable I just lost any respect I ever potentially had for you. At all. If you honestly believe in this "Illuminati" crap, just give up existing cause that is one of the most bullshit things I have ever heard, ever. In all time. Also, I don't think you understand the word "symbol" properly.
Killzoneguy117 2 months ago
@Killzoneguy117 come to sweden watch the television and u will understand .... illuminati killuminati... zionism WHATEVER something is going on in the media that is crazy, prepering something crazy,
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Elifbathajeable Technically, Islam is also an "ism". As is every other religion on Earth. Are you against Islam too? There is no
Jewish/Marxist/Nazi/Zionist/Illuminati/Capitalist/Communist/Shi'a/Alien Lizard People plot to take over the world
Killzoneguy117 2 months ago
@Killzoneguy117 lol how can you be so sure about that ? why is it war in every country where muslims live ? it meybe aint no groups like that, but as sadly it is to say there is a higher "evil" power that wants to controll the world,, there is no doubt about that. europe people are being more controlled. why all this ? and the economi and so on. something is going on,, u know what? we are going into the darkest ages, perhaps.
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Elifbathajeable There are wars in those countries cause there are problems in those countries. And really, its only the bad Muslim countries. I don't see a war in Turkey, or Bosnia, or Saudi Arabia, or Iran so... yeah. And dude, there isn't a higher power. There isn't a conspiracy to destroy Islam and rule mankind and whatever. If there was a conspiracy, they would probably hide it a lot better. And the economy sucking? I don't wanna go into some hardcore economics to explain that.
Killzoneguy117 2 months ago
@Killzoneguy117 Islam is nothing but a religion from Allah , guidence for us ,
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Killzoneguy117 and I am against any kind of symbol - ism.. whatever,, I do understand what you meant.
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Elifbathajeable If you have a problem with that, go back in time and take it up with "Caliph" Yazid I who decided that he could be a better ruler by killing the beloved Imam of the followers of Ahl al-Bayt. Then we wouldn't have to do this "nonsense". Go on, I'll wait.
Killzoneguy117 2 months ago
@Killzoneguy117 I don't care about Caliph Yazid, Ahl al-Bayt or Sadam Hussein lol... im not being mean meybe they are good people, only Allah knows, all I know is that my "ruler" is Allah,
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
@Killzoneguy117 need guidence ? read quran ! and follow the steps of our beloved prophet mohammed (pbuh) thats all we need,, no need no counfuzing al bayat or caliph,, u have you're self, ur brain and soul, and plzz ,, don't beat ur self, there is no reason, that cannot be for islam, follow the quran properly, that will be for allah;)
Elifbathajeable 2 months ago
Hussain save Islam...He fought for freedom and against injustice and our job is to follow him...USA
nahiddanish 2 months ago
audubillahi minash shaitanir rajeem ..
2001Rahman 2 months ago
this is totally crap of shit
jooker84xx 2 months ago
ya Huseyn Ibni Ali((((((((
byvusal123 2 months ago
Dumbs , ur beating ur self for sake of a person who died thousand years ago! ! Bitches .
SkyKngiht 2 months ago
lolz
89Union 2 months ago
Salam Yaa Hussain ibne Ali (AS)
aqeelhaider07ect17 3 months ago
YA ABA ABDILLAH I WOULD DIE FOR YOU
persianabella 3 months ago
look brothers. we (shias) believe that in the quran it says u should not harm ur self but if that was the case then even claping ur hands hard would be haram cus it would hurt u. so we say that u should not cause MAJOR harm to ur self and this ritual is a way to mourn for a great shaheed and as the best religion we should mourn in the best way.
17AIDER1 3 months ago
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ShiaMunafiq 3 months ago
l0l
QSH6H 4 months ago
Shia Are Kafir
jhangvibrigade 4 months ago
@jhangvibrigade SHAME ON YOU! WALLAHI TAQWA ALLAH. YOU HAVEN'T THE RIGHT TO JUDGE SOMEONE. MAY ALLAH GUIDE YOU
persianabella 3 months ago
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illidin25 4 months ago
@illidin25
Yeah islam prohibited to love and show some respect to Prophet muhammads family, that's right. Damn you're stupid!
AmelaTurkiye1 3 months ago
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THESE ARE PUNISHING THEMSELVES FOR DECEIVING AND KILLING HUSSAIN, GRANDSON OF LAST PROPHET,SAW. THESE ALL ARE SHIANE YAZID. THEIR FOREFATHERS WERE SHIAS OF KUFA WHO ASSURED HUSSAIN OF THEIR SUPPORT AND INSISTED HIM TO COME TO KUFA. 18000 SHIAS WROTE LETTER TO HUSSAIN AND TOTAL 30000 SHIAS ASSURED HUSSAIN OF THEIR SUPPORT BUT WHEN HUSSAIN REACHED KARBALA, ALL SHIAS DISAPPEARED AND LEFT HUSSAIN ALONE TO BE KILLED BY YAZIDI ARMY WHICH WAS OF 4000 SOLDIERS. THIS IS LANAT OF ALLAH ON SHIAS.
Islam1491 4 months ago
mashallah lashkar imam zaman (aj) hussain soldier we proud of you
scherzinger3 5 months ago
why do shia people beat themselves up?
jolie416 6 months ago
shiah is wrong way of life..syaitan
brotherklang 7 months ago
i cant see ur shiaa imam beatin their body ...they just sit and look .. smile to u all..
u all shiaa show ur brave and dont afraid to die on ashurra ...but where ur brave when USA army come and take ur country....
MrSuhami 7 months ago
masallah from azeribaijan land
ThePasha564 7 months ago
but wheres is the saddam hussin
faizolo 7 months ago
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Malakoot50 7 months ago
mashallah Yia Hussainie shahiid
Gholami100 7 months ago
All that things make me so sad. May Allah shows you the good path to follow
islamsmile 8 months ago
OMG! what kind of evil practice is this!? Muslims have defeated pagan arabs with this ritual! I bet this is one of the happiest moments for shaitan to see so many misguided muslims!
LightSpeed333 9 months ago
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Terrorist12341 5 months ago
@LightSpeed333 yes but you dont understand what and why they are doing ?? you might think you do but you really dont ... i was like you once , until i went to iraq (Kharbalah) and i stood in the middle between these people ...after three days i understood why they do it .. explaining it to you would not get you any where am just saying DONT
calian0770 3 months ago 7
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@calian0770 Yes because Allah azawajal and Prophet Muhammed commanded muslims to beat themselves over the death of a martyr. No this is NOT ISLAM and we all know this. When a good person dies or is martyred you honour them by praying to god for them that is all my brother.
thesamstaa 4 days ago
@LightSpeed333
Evil practice? I hope you're not muslim, cause if you are then you don't know or understand anything. You've only seen it, you've never experienced it or heard about it. You don't even know the story. Please show some respect and stop pretending you're a better muslim by saying stupid things about shia!
AmelaTurkiye1 3 months ago
@AmelaTurkiye1 The prophets Son in Law daughter and Grand Kids where killed beheaded and poisoned on this week of Ashura so we mourn every year. Nothing wrong with mourning of the slaughter of the Prophets Family.
datvsbling 2 months ago
@datvsbling
Yes??
AmelaTurkiye1 2 months ago
Hey look, we're even more retarded than the average muslim, we're shi'its, even the muslim find this retarded.
Oh my
pfromtheairplane 9 months ago
Idioits ...
y2399 10 months ago
you guys need help..... somebody grenade them before they kill themselves....
satandevil200022 10 months ago
this is not Islam
asfand472 11 months ago
@asfand472 go read about the history of islam (the shia-sunni split) and then talk
missbatikha 9 months ago
@missbatikha AIGHT GO AND READ UR OWN SHIA BOOKS THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MOTHER FUCKER SHIAS PEOPLE?
UR OWN SCHOLARS ABUSED ALL SHIAS AND THEY CLAIMED THAT ALL SHIAS KILL IMAM HUSSAIN (RTA)
asfand472 9 months ago
they mother fuckers are basically Yazidi
YA ALLAH put all of them shias in hell
asfand472 11 months ago
@asfand472 hey you can't say that loool i know what they do is kufr but its up to god to judge
satandevil200022 10 months ago
@asfand472 they are all bitch ass niggas we are all need to kill them really really
asfand472 10 months ago
@asfand472 if you were truly muslim, you would not ask god to put someone in hell and you would not talk that way. muslim is not just an ID btw.
missbatikha 9 months ago
@missbatikha STFU N WATCH WHAT ARE THEY DOING AND PROVE IT TO ME FROM HADITHS AND QURAN IF U CANT PROVE THEN FUCK U _|_
asfand472 9 months ago
@asfand472 lol, you're so dignified (sarcastic) that i won't even try to prove it to you, good luck in trying to go to paradise. lol, you really think the prophet (saw) acted like you act. telling people to **** themselves :S.
missbatikha 9 months ago
@missbatikha fuck u dont say that ur muslim cuz ur insulting all muslims in the whole world to do all these shity stuffs.
asfand472 9 months ago
you're so dignified...good luck in going to paradise with telling people to **** themselves. and why do you need a hadith if you can't even follow the most basic principles of Islam: to respect one another.
missbatikha 9 months ago
@missbatikha HURTING UR SELF IS THIS ISLAM ? YOU FAGGOT
DID PROFIT MOHAMMAD (SAWW) DID IT IN HIS LIFE?
BASICALY U DONT FOLLOW THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF ISLAM CUZ U DONT LEARN FROM QURAN AND HADITH.
DONT SAY THAT UR MUSLIM.
U MADE UR OWN RELIGION AND UR FOLLOWING JEWS AND CHRISTAINS.
asfand472 9 months ago
@asfand472 it's mourning, when someone dies, you mourn her. the prophet (saw) could not have done this in his life because the tragedy of karbalaa had not happened yet. it happened years after his death. so, it's not written in the quran. and i don't care if you think i'm not muslim, god knows who is and who is not. so, ill say it as long as i live. r
missbatikha 9 months ago
the people who killed Imam Hussein (as) were Yazid and his army. When Yazid went to Kufa to find Imam Hussein (as), he forced shias to turn against Imam Hussein or they would kill them all. later, one of ahlul kufa took his revenge over the Omeyyades. Don't answer to this, i'm sick of reading your unrespectful comments.
missbatikha 9 months ago
@missbatikha YYEAH THAT'S RIGHT UR SICK THAT'S WHY U DONT UNDERSTAND UR NOT MUSLIM THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY .
KUFA,BAGHDAD AND BASRA THESE PLACES ARE DEVIL PLACES.
THESE ARE THE PLACES WHERE SHAITAN LIVES.
asfand472 9 months ago
@asfand472 hey stupid, if shias arent muslims then why the hell are they allowed to enter mekka? it seems u ignorant wahabis do not follow the prophet (peace be upon him and his progeny) when he said in his wasiah 'kick out the mushrikeen out of jazerat al arab' ....you wahabis consider shia kafir and yet YOU allow them to enter mekka, what a bunch of stupid hyprocrites!
Akhbari11 7 months ago
@Akhbari11 FUCK U SHIAS ARE KAFIR ANYWAYS
asfand472 7 months ago
@Akhbari11 U GUYZ ARE ALL FUCKIN DEVIL AND U GUYZ ARE MUSHRIK MOTHER FUCKERS
asfand472 7 months ago
@asfand472 only one word 4 u son of harami yazid lanat beshumarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
0ppp000 7 months ago
@asfand472 aww u cant even answer a simple question, why r the shia mushrikeen are allowed to enter mecca? don't wahabies follow the prophet's words?.....u wahabies seem to be very stupid
Akhbari11 7 months ago
@asfand472 Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal in his Musnad, vol. 6, p. 274, Number 26391 (edited by al-Arnaut) records that Aisha said: Allah’s Apostle died in my lap. I then placed his head on a pillow AND STARTED DOING ILTIDAM (to beat chest) with the other women AND I BEAT MY FACE.
Shaykh al-Arnaut says: Its chain is hasan on account of Ibn Ishaq
The prophet's wife and the other women did it in ur books. Why do u Nawasibies wail when u see Shias doing the same thing for Imam al-Husayn?
Akhbari11 7 months ago
funny shias
oJgJIpJLccc 1 year ago
I agree...
NO COMMENT!
livingonmyon 1 year ago
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUSSAIN IBN ALI
MiniNews555 1 year ago
wow this is just fucked up :S how can so many people belive in a religion that is build on lies? the whole religion is wrong in so many ways
SuperXaster 1 year ago
Wow i cant belive this western media is showing the millions in Karbala. While arab zionist media dost even mention it.
Tigris363 1 year ago
All of you are going to burn in hell for this innovation. HMM i thought the message ended after prophet muhammeds death? i thought that allah created muhammed as the prime example of how every human being should be? i thought that were supposed to follow HIS way of life and how he behaved, and i thought that the quran was completed after HE died? So how can we believe in innovation that was created AFTER muhammed? if muhammed was the prophet and final word of religon?.....istakferallah
moe0590 1 year ago
@moe0590 - dude you should think and research before opening your mouth. This is no innovation. Prophet taught us how to mourn.
Who will go to hell or heaven is a decision you got nothing to do with,
lovenpeace14 1 year ago
Also it wasn't Muaawiya who killed Hazrat Ali.
hussainmushahid 1 year ago
but yazeed was a evil dirty man.May he burn in hell!
hussainmushahid 1 year ago
Also we shouldn't forget the brutal murder of Hazrat Usman too, I mean that he didn't called the Muslim army to protect him so that Muslim's don't shed the blood of one another. So we should remember this as a lesson and tell others about it.
hussainmushahid 1 year ago
@hussainmushahid part2 Ali is the right path and right path is with ali" and imam ali was galifa al-muslimeen and muaawia whent in war with imam ali and muwaawia killed 3mar ibn yaser and nabe mohammed s.a.w.w said to 3mar ياعمار تقتلك الفئ الباغيه غريب: تدعوهم الى الجنه ويدعونك الى النار so in this hadith you will see that muaawia was not on the right path and that was a hadith from nabe mohammed s.a.w.w it cant be both of them in the right path its or ali a.s or muaawia in the right path
mohammedirakie 1 year ago
@mohammedirakie
Lets just end this discussion, lets be friends and brothers :)
Muaawiya was a brave and great soldier but he made a big mistake and went in war with Ali for power and revenge of Usman even knowing that Hazrat Ali was one of the greatest companions of the H.P and can never be wrong.But he and Ali both were mis guided to fight against each others by the Jews so that the unity of Muslims which is the power of the Muslims ends.
its time we Muslim unite again.
hussainmushahid 1 year ago
@mohammedirakie who said we don't love Imam Ali.
but out first imam and prophet is the prophet mohammad peace be upon him.
i wish you say i follow the way of allah. then prophet .then ahl albayt and companions.
the prophet forbidded hitting yourself even when someone close to you dies.so what is the problem really.
im not sunni.nor shiaai.bring me proof and logic about what the prophet wanted and said.and ill follow.but the prophet forbidded hitting ourselves for one person who dies.
salam
WARDGL 1 year ago
If you keep want to arguing like our stupid leaders, both political and religion. Then go ahead, a time will come when all Muslims in the world will face persecutions because of our stupid leaders who kept fighting each other for no reason what so ever for e.g the wahabi king of Saudia Arab who pays Talibans .
hussainmushahid 1 year ago
اخرى على ام كل واحد لطم كس امهاتكم ام ام يا اولاد المتعة
secretidcom 1 year ago
After the death of the Holy Prophet, the Jews have always tried their best to destroy Islam and the only method they found was to divide us into castes and I must say they have been successful in doing that. Now a days a Muslim can't even stand one another. There are so many castes and division between the Muslim community it self that only if they finish fighting within them selves, only then they can defeat the enemy. Allah please guide us Muslims to the right path.
hussainmushahid 1 year ago
u all crazy don't even know any thing about history I don't think there was any shia or sunni in those time they were all muslims its us now who made these nonsence shame on all of us muslims who let americans or any muslim hater to make conflict between us.
mohammadshakib112 1 year ago
@007opfer
the Americans put this demented crazed group in power? WOW. this is clearly unislamic. Well, maybe this is the reason these guys were put in power. No wonder why Muslims call shiites a different religion. I would like to see one of the American proponent of the war on Iraq advocate for spreading this heineous practice in the United States. I want to see Iran allowing this crap on their streets. Why don't they?
alfalfafalafelmafia 1 year ago
Shia is the best way of life. People who who leave negatives comments are all wahabis
jimmy786UK 1 year ago
@jimmy786UK best way of punishing yourself?? even if you paid me i'll never be a shiia.....and why don't the leaders beat themselves??? huh your all just SICKKK!!!
satandevil200022 10 months ago
@jimmy786UK Im just wondering at what time did the prophet (s.a.w) and the sahabas beat the crap out of themselves???????????????????
Losers, shias need major help
islamluv 10 months ago
@islamluv at the time of the prophet, his grandson had not been killed by the Omeyyades (the sahabas as you call them). Learn about the history of islam before talking.
missbatikha 9 months ago
@missbatikha so u think if Imam Hussain was killed during Prophet Muhammad's lifetime he would have approved this sort of activities?His son died in infancy, did he mourn like this? His only supporter during tough times Khadija died, did he mourn like this? His uncle Hamza was killed in the battlefield n his liver was chewed by Hinda n nose n ears were cut off did Muhammad mourn like this?
He who slaps his cheeks, tears his clothes, and cries out in the manner of jahiliyyah is not of us(Bukhari)
LightSpeed333 9 months ago
@islamluv @islamluv at the time of the prophet, his grandson (Imam Hussein) had not yet been killed by the Omeyyades (the sahabas as you call them). Learn about the history of islam before talking.
missbatikha 9 months ago
@islamluv @islamluv at the time of the prophet (saw), his grandson, imam hussein (as), had not been killed by the Omeyyades (the sahabas as you call them). Learn about the history of islam before talking. btw, when imam hussein was born, the prophet used to cry over him because he knew he was going to be killed in a tragic way (he has been beheaded after fighting with Yazid army)
missbatikha 9 months ago
@jimmy786UK i don't think beating urself up is the best way of life lolz
jolie416 6 months ago
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do u know that shimir and ziad bin abeeh were shia????
yes they were shiaat ali, shia killed hussein and they cry him annually
pfdracula 1 year ago
@pfdracula that make no sense....sunni like yazeed and shimir.....we shia hate them secondly....I found it funny because the followers of the prophets family we call them shia....shimir and yazeed are sunnis als umar and abu bakr who r mainlyinvolved in killing our beloved fatima al zahra daughter of the prophet...you dont believe me look in al bugary brother is not only in shia books also in sunni books
mohammedirakie 1 year ago
@mohammedirakie
Who said Sunni's like Yazeed? We only respect Muaawiya but that doesn't mean we don't respect Hazrat Ali. There are certain munafiqueen who name them selfs as Muslims and started all of this and till this day they are destroying Islam by dividing us into castes. All Muslims are to believe in the Incident of Karbala and should take it as a guide. These munafiqueen caused fights between the Muslims and till this day we are suffering from them.
hussainmushahid 1 year ago
@hussainmushahid you like ali and muaawiya....and muaawiya went in war with imam ali a.s in the battle of sufin and the prophet said to 3mar ibn yaser "ياعمار تقتلك الفئ الباغيه تدعوهم الى الجنه ويدعونك الى النار " ... that the prophet told 3mar that he should fight with ali a.s and he was bringing people to the path of ali a.s but the soldiers of muaawiya killed 3mar in the battle of sufian because he was with ali a.s i have a question for you;
who is in the right path; imam ali a.s or muwaaya
mohammedirakie 1 year ago
@mohammedirakie
you still didn't understand what I said, I respect Muaawiya, he was a brave soldier who expanded the Muslim empire in the time of Hazrat Umar and Hazrat Usman. Yes he did made mistakes and even Hazrat Ali made political mistakes because of certain Munafiqueen who were tricking them to fight each other. You know how Hazrat Usman was murdered? After that Hazrat Ali became Caliph, but do you think Hazrat Ali had the powers? No he did not, it was the munafiqueen who had the powers.
hussainmushahid 1 year ago
@mohammedirakie
I am not to follow either Hazrat Ali or Muaawiya, I am to follow Quran and the Holy Prophet. No one knows what exactly happened in the events after the death of the H.P, History was written by the people and those people are not always correct.You beleive Muaawiya was a bad guy but I don't and thats because of History.
Its time we forget all of this and stop letting our enemies the jews to get ahead of us.
hussainmushahid 1 year ago
@hussainmushahid Lanat on you if you don't think muaawiya(lanat) wasn't a bad guy !! lanat on your family n your on coming generation... may your life b misrable lanat on u lanat lanat n lanat !! tubah!! tubah !! can't belive u actually said yazeed(lanat) wasn't a bad guy !!
sunflowersq14 1 year ago
@hussainmushahid I have a qiestion who was in the right path muaawia or imam ali a.s second question who was galifa al muslimeen muaawia or imam ali a.s third question if you you where at that time who will you be with in the battle field muaawia or imam ali a.s
mohammedirakie 1 year ago
@mohammedirakie
Ans Q1, I would need to be there to answer that.
Ans Q2; Didn't understand what you meant
Ans Q3, I would support Hazrat Ali because of his significance.
We should never forget that Muaawiya was also a companion of the Holy Prophet, he fought many wars and expanded the Muslim empire. He was also made governor by Hazrat Umar and remained governor in the time of Hazrat Usman the people of Damascus loved him. So how can he be a bad guy? He wasn't bad but he did mistakes.
hussainmushahid 1 year ago
@hussainmushahid part1 thank you for answer my question and dont get offended we are having just a respectful argument we are to people who are trying to find the right path my brother anyways in your mind will you accept the killer and person who died both going to heaven.... secondly brother listen in the war battle of sufian 20,000 muslims died do you know who is responsible....nabe mohammed s.a.w.w said "follow imam
mohammedirakie 1 year ago
Iran enhanced these habits in Iraq.
Im Muslim and i believe both Sunna, Shia are the same Islam. Two sects could live besides to eachother just as it was in the past Iraq for Thousand of years.
bfdjkku 1 year ago
SALAM MY BROTHERS. İ AM FROM AZERBAİJAN AND İ AM SHİA-MUSLİM BUT DONT HURT İTSELF İT İS HARAM. İSLAM İS RELİGİON OF PEACE.
YA MUHAMMED YA ALİ
Mremi555 1 year ago
if shia was the only islam id just be an athiest cuz anything that harms u is logically wrong and immorally haram in Islam. i laugh watching retarted shit like this hahahaha fucking dumbasses!!
interfc118 1 year ago
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interfc118 1 year ago
hahah as if this is going to tacke you to janah hey i have a better idea 4 you its better if you killed your selfs once and for all instead of torturing your selfs every year and stop telling kids that by torturing them selfs they are mourning ali and husain may allah be pleased with them look Allah has never asked any one to torture them selfs for no one so dont lie to the kids any more as humans we are dumb some times we believe things with out searching for the truth search for Allah sake
funufana 1 year ago
bohat kamal mashallah
ghaziabbas5 1 year ago
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Ya Hussain...wish i could be there
labaaikyahussain 1 year ago
Allhamdollilah i m a shia , shiat is not only beating our body,actually its this that what type of heart u have.or we can say that on which side u r.with the mazloom or zalim .i guess that holy quran and rasool s.a.w always taught us to favour the right one. so go and increase ur knowledge .dont day that we are kafirs.
labaaikyahussain 1 year ago
It goes a little something like this... These guys have no place in Islam. They're a bunch of jokers who are trying to repent for something that happened centuries ago. Repentance is via prayer. There is no way that Islam condones flaggelation and this is why these people are on the periphery of Islam - some would argue that they are devoid of faith...
derekmartinisatwat 1 year ago
I am a Muslim
These Shiites are not Muslims
Islam is a religion of peace is not a religion of bloods
khaled565 1 year ago
@khaled565
Iam a muslim
We believe Wahabis,Salafis and some Sunis are kafer
As a Shia i never take the side of Abu ba "kir" over the family of prophet Mohammad,never
jasonthemankiller 1 year ago
@jasonthemankiller Sure e are. How is that? we are not the ones who CRAWL to Hussein's grave (Shirk). We aren't the ones who have states of THEOCRACY (against the Koran). We aren't the ones who BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF OUR SELVES (Against the Koran). We aren't the ones who bleed for the dead (also against the Koran).
So who is the Kaffir here you stupid Shi'te. Go beat up your self, asshole.
thedudefromthehood 1 year ago
@khaled565 ,, yeah u mean killing and blowing inoccent people in iraq and all over the world is an act of islam, and in the name of islam.. your people mislead the image of islam. go search your self first.
iraqibodybuilder 1 year ago
RESPETO
elsoke1 1 year ago
BarakAllah Be Shi'at Ali (as)
ThePESLOVER 1 year ago
Ya Hussain...wish i could be there
tilambacin 2 years ago
Human have a different ways to reduce greave and pain. If you lose your love ones I am sure you will see different ways to reduce the pain around you, it is natural. If you do not reduce your pain in the shape of crying or some other ways than you will be in very deep depression.
Do you know how many family members of Prophet Mohammad (P.B.O.H) martyred in karbala ?
NizamiSarg 2 years ago
@kamalsemmane:We have a lot of things in our life that we can not do but Prophet Mohammad (P.B.O.H) was used to do. Prophet Mohammad (P.B.O.H) recite kalima There is no god but God and I am his Messenger but we recite There is no god but God and Mohammad (P.B.O.H) his Messenger.
Have you ever seen a Palestinians Mother beating herself after loosing her Son or love one? I am sure we all have seen that but I have never read or heard voices against her style of greave.
NizamiSarg 2 years ago
if you really moslims show us if prophet mohammed sala allah alayh wa salam do this,saint body muss back to GOD saint again.
kamalsemmane 2 years ago
Should people start adding a part for asking questions about current issues in this rituals? The real pain is not from how people beating up themselves because they can still singing and dancing as we all observed here. The real pain is from people beating up each others, I think not many would remember those songs then.
beancube2008 2 years ago
mourning for hussain (r.a) is gud but
beatin urself wit chains nd knives is wrong
huss323 2 years ago
@huss323 the beating with knives and chains has been forbidden but the shiite muslim leaders...btw, i've touched the chains and they are not true chains...it's very light.
missbatikha 9 months ago
Asian innovasion,,nothing to do with arabs neither the prophets family.Full of ignorance and hypicrosy
Gravespunishment 2 years ago
Mashalla
xxdexterlicious 2 years ago
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ewery pakistan people kiss ma ass you dogs
TheKhool 2 years ago
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Kerbala is in Iraq you racist fuck
olelr92 2 years ago
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i've been in one of this festivals, women r so hot =D
1Nk0Rr3kT 2 years ago