Beating Siege Tanks using Sacrificial Units

[Harishimomo]

If you spread out your zealots all the one and somehow get 1 to attack each tank, the tnaks would get splash damage from eachother and that would do a lot of damage too

[nroland99]

you have forgotten one thing: tanks are used in defencive mesures, meaning they will placed behind wall of buildings, up cliffs, and other un reachable places. the only true way it to sound them from all angles, reducing slash damage. thoe you will need 3 infantry units per tank, it is my perfered tactice on taking them out (using reapers is very affective)

[booSackk]

@nroland99 lmao ur retarded, if tanks are used defensively in ur situation, then back up and expand

but when they do go on the offensive this is a way to break it duh

[nroland99]

@booSackk no, i mean outside of seige mode, they are uterly useless, even a single marauder/stalker can kill it. even in sc1 a detected dark templar can uterly anhilate it. but it was made to have seige mode, and its kind of obvious to move it up during a attle closer to the enemy base

[AxzenStarcraft]

what about microing around rines?

[TheNdoki]

Wow, I learned two things this video. How to break a siege tank line, and how to choose sacrifices. Win!

[DarkMageB8]

More Vids on Breaking seige lines, it's so important in Z VS T

[ExquisiteDoom]

What if you sent two zealots on each tank instead? I guess it's too much management?  Oh and yes, i realize 6x2 doesn't make 10 so you nit picky people need not point it out :D

[ZordCraft]

Wow, that was incredibly helpful. :D

[SavageJunky]

Ohhhh... That is why I always get wipe against siege tank... I forgot the dancing technique lol. Great video again!

[androobay]

lol getting the worst dancers to take damage

[TheVoices297]

i feel like you should have emphasized that it is best to use light units

[lin2k4]

Dislikes are from Terran players

[thersvidder]

Wow thanks. Im struggling with Mech in TvT right now.

[pch0mey]

Liked, thumbed up, subscribed! :D

[etceteraretecte]

Sorry, off topic but can you queue up the "enter siege mode" comman on a siege tank by holding shift? I swear I've tried it before unsuccessfully but you're either really deft at splitting and sieging or you queued each one.

[airmaxhater]

@etceteraretecte You can que it up, just shift move then shift siege mode.

[mafab666]

Another way, of course (as Zerg), are Infested Terran Bombs

[RelVleDy]

Smater players will try to micro the Siege Tanks to hit the middle of the mass, but still, this is a great strategy. Excellent vid.

[renamorcen]

Or i'll tech to brood lords...

[Fridgerage]

@renamorcen remebre 6siege tanks are usally followed by 50 marins ^^

[renamorcen]

@Fridgerage THat's why My brood lords are followed by ~100 speed lings or 10 banelings burrowed near the brood lords

[Shinokun]

Not very realistic. Unless it's a light contain, the terrain is going to have a composition of tanks with marines/hellions.

But helpful to know known the less.

[InfernoX17]

@Shinokun known the less?

[timmietimmins]

@Shinokun In that case, you have siege tanks firing at your zealots while they move in to engage the marines, so minimizing splash is relevant.

Besides, tanks are actually quite a bit more durable than marines once you stim them once and considering the dangers of splashing your own marines with tank fire. When you consider basically any tank attack in TVP is an all in with no transition to a mid or lategame, it makes sense to have your tanks forwards, while your marines are hiding behind.

[Shinokun]

@timmietimmins No, that's a horrible idea. Marines are easily replenishable. Tanks become non-cost effective once a melee unit reaches it. The only time you want your marinesbehind your tanks are when they have HT or your playing TvZ against Banes. If you're considering late game, you'd want to save your tanks. But I agree with tanks/marines/banshees are all-in-y right now in TvP

[timmietimmins]

@Shinokun

We are currently watching a video, where 1k minerals worth of zealots, the protoss mineral dump, walk over 6 spread siege tanks (900/750), while losing FOUR zealots.

Look at the video. That is why you have zero incentive to save tanks. If you have bio, tanks stop you from kiting, and zealots will just a-move over them and splash your own marines.  Using tanks in TVP, you ARE all in and you have no incentive to keep your tanks alive. If you stay on tanks, you lose in the lategame.

[timmietimmins]

@Shinokun Plus, of course, this is not even properly spread zealots. In a real game scenario, you don't attack a specific tank, you a-move your zealots behind the terran army and they stay spread out,, further making splash damage a liability. In this video, when the zealots went in, all 10 of them grouped up on a single front tank because they were told to attack it instead of the ground behind it.

[mTANGproductions]

of course you leave tanks out by themselves for them to have that sacrificial unit. ask zerg how hard it is to sac roaches when marines are there for support.

[pwrOverwhelming]

sick difference

[sxyspaz]

the problem is that those tanks are gaurded by marines and banshees :P

[BigTrustProductions]

I like how this noob did not split the zealots to into 3 groups

[Straws236]

@BigTrustProductions 0/10 troll

[alexander92ck]

I dont think it works with lings, they cant dance, so i couldn't chose who to put on front xD

[HomelessGnome]

@alexander92ck Lings can dance, but smart fire makes this technique less effective with zerglings.

[ProjectX593]

awesome video, i'll have to try this!

[samishxc2]

Haha those first zealots did pretty well. I would say that's a fair exchange

[Pasemak]

nice vid man

[gamingbot]

cool



[AnEvilSnowman]

What custom map do you use for these videos?

[SC2NoobSchool]

@AnEvilSnowman This one is called "Unit Tester Online"

[AnEvilSnowman]

@SC2NoobSchool I assume it North America servers only i can't seem to find it.

[SC2NoobSchool]

@AnEvilSnowman Link is in the description.

[AnEvilSnowman]

@SC2NoobSchool Thanks very much.

[FrVitoBe]

@AnEvilSnowman scroll down when you type in the unit tester online its at button at 12 players req

[xapemanx]

how do i win the game?

[Gardanos]

@xapemanx whosyourdaddy

[thesilverviolet]

love how you incorporate humor with useful information, those two traits you conduct your videos with really show how great of a caster you are, thanks for the tip and i'll be watching all your videos in the future

[SC2NoobSchool]

@thesilverviolet Awww *blush*

[JustusFriedolin]

nice. its actually very useful in tvt. in the instance of marauders and marines vs siegetanks for instance

[SC2NoobSchool]

@JustusFriedolin This is true.

[JustusFriedolin]

@SC2NoobSchool man im lazy when i write youtube comments haha

[N4trambl1k]

@JustusFriedolin you arent really supposed to use too much infantry in tvt, the soft rule is, the more you have the more you lose

[JustusFriedolin]

@N4trambl1k in big tournaments you could have seen that you can play mass bio vs mass mech. with alot of drop play tho. in any case, there are quite a lot of instances where marauders are the hard counter to tanks

[Shanongao]

awesome brooooo

[xXstrIker8Xx]

awesome tactic, thanks :)

[arjeyy]

make em dance. got it :D

[xRaiiZe]

Very useful. I'll be sure to use this next time somebody camps with siege tanks

[AguitarF]

nice video man, very useful

[TurtIedd]

yey