"Do You Want to Live to Be 1000?" and Why That's a Stupid Question

[arenelomax]

Wow, you didn't have to be a dick about it.

[Upstreamswimmer]

Ask Rip Van Winkle a stupid question and he gets pissed. Take another nap dude.

[halflifeproductionz]

Yes!!! absolutely.

[drshlotzkin]

If aging was spread throughout those 1000 years then maybe... Think of the last millennia, how many changes humanity has gone though, living through the next would be something to witness. Well you probably would have been burned as a witch or treated as a god if you could have lived during the last millennia, haha.

[mrhotmale99]

i disagree and think the question is good. Think of the highlander movies where they dont die... they can learn many languages and be skilled in many things

[FOBmzunguREPTILICUS]

paying taxes to the Elite for 1000 years

[BrutticusForce]

woah, aubrey degray on fora? i read his book "long for this world." guess ill check it out.

[Air420]

@BrutticusForce Long for This World isn't his book, Ending Aging is.

[BrutticusForce]

@Air420 Fair enough. He was featured heavily in Long for this World, which is why i got confused.

In any case, this full vid is behind a paywall, which makes me want to punch fora.tv inthe face

[Air420]

@BrutticusForce Fora can be a pain. I have a bunch of Aubrey uploads, check em out.

[DeadIslandTrailers]

it depends....if i age like a vampire and keep my looks, then sure i'll try it.

but if i look like methuselah after a while, no thanks.

i'm curious to see future technology but you know there's gonna be wars

worse than WW2 and shit. and who the hell wants to be around that time.

[Ricky103]

Humans have always had the capability to live to over 100. We are not evolving to live longer, it's just age related diseases are being treated more effectively. Personally I'd love to live to 1000.

[shonuffLA]

im not sure what world you guys are living in but due to physical limitations death seems to be infintley more interesting than this 3d space we currenlty occupy

[ArchNME]

@shonuffLA When your dead your dead. You won't experience anything after that. You will cease to be.

[shonuffLA]

@ArchNME Energy cannot be created or destroyed. You had a " life" before you were born you will have a "life" or experience when your body gives out and so on add nauseum. This body is simply a tool that allows us to interact in this dimension. Doing some simple astral travel will confirm this and check out ea koetting books on invocations to really push the limits of this "experience"

[CognosSquare]

@shonuffLA love this part: "Doing some simple astral travel will confirm this". Thanks internet.

[shonuffLA]

@CognosSquare its really not that difficult all you have to do is become self aware in a dream and start from there. There are a ton of books to help guide you. The thanks internet part is pretty funny. Seriously tho remove your pre concived notions on the subject, keep the condecension if you like and give it a go. Or be a judgemental knob and think you have frim grasp on something you havent even tried or at least researched. I made that last assumption based on your statments "tone"

[wassholm]

@shonuffLA I suspect the point is that there doesn't seem to be a way for you to know what exactly it is that what you call "astral travel" confirms. I'm not saying that "astral travel" isn't possible (nor that it is), I'm just saying that merely doing it won't tell you what it is.

If the body was not "a tool that allows us to interact in this dimension", but rather all we are, and our mind emerging from it, what would you then expect the world to look like? What test would confirm that to you?

[shonuffLA]

@wassholm death is all there is is what i responded to, and your phrasing brings up other avenues so i will attempt to respond. 1 our "brain" and our "mind" are 2 difffernt things 2 the idea our body is all we are is negated when you have experiences leaving your body and i mean "you" are above yourself looking down on your body sleeping. IF our body was our totality then anything outside of that would not be possible. But i digress and wish you and familly health and happiness.

[wassholm]

@shonuffLA So your assumption is unfalsifiable? From my perspective, you experiencing something that appears to you as if your "mind" is leaving your body is completely in line with the idea that said mind is an emergent property of your body. Your claim that you've "been outside of your body" does nothing on it's own to prove that that is in fact the case, let alone to falsify the idea of emergent consciousness.

It comes down to this: "astral travel" is not an experiment, and confirms nothing.

[MichaelnChristine]

@shonuffLA Anyone who thinks the mind arises from anything other the brain needs to prove that they truly believe this by allowing me to put a nail through their head. If you won't do that, then you don't believe it.

[MsHojat]

I wonder how our brains would work (assuming they would, which they probably would if in proper physical condition) after 1000 years... like how much stuff would be forgotten, and what dates of different things would be remembered.

[Prolite]

@MsHojat Future technology of this century will allow our brains to access memory devices such as one's we have in a computer. This will extend our ability to remember. This is probably about 50 years from now.

[MsHojat]

@Prolite of course, but I was just talking about the natural/biological brain itself. On that note, it would be also interesting to know what sort of biological (as opposed to electronic) enhancements might be done to the brain.

[Primalxbeast]

@SecularMentat

People wouldn't be able to live off interest. Money is a construct of society and has no intrinsic value. People have to grow food and make products, and provide services. Do you think that if everybody just put their money in the bank for a 1000 years, that it would magically breed, and products would magically materialize to be bought?

[Primalxbeast]

People would have to stop breeding like rats. We keep increasing the average life expectancy, while people keep popping out babies, and the number of people has already turned the planet into a ses-pit. Look at the Pacific garbage patch. We've already turned our huge oceans into sewers.

[MadPutz]

@Primalxbeast Population isn't a problem, in fact, with current technology we could support far more people on earth than we currently do and very sustainably and cleanly. The problem is bad management of the population with inefficient economies, corrupt governments, and unnecessary strife and war. Technology will continue to improve and alleviate those damaging effects, but don't blame population, blame how we deal with it..

[ShaedeReshka]

It's not about longevity. It's about power and control.

Queue the red flag... now.

[d3st88]

@ShaedeReshka

What are you talking about?

[karmaGfa]

ha ha ha ! I totally agree him ^o^

[trixter21992251]

Bad analogy is bad...

When you die, it's definitely over.

Going to the toilet is a cycle.

[Daghead]

I don't want to live long in this reality working 9 to 5 at a mediocre job :/

[volound]

his words are wise. his face is beard.

[100PercentGreen]

@volound lol

[Primalxbeast]

I don't even know if I want to be alive now, but it's cool to think how much a person could learn in a thousand years. I think drop zones would go out of business though. Skydiving isn't a big deal if you're only taking the chance of losing a few decades, but who would take the chance of losing hundreds of years, and the odds of eventually dieing on a jump would increase with the number of years you spend jumping.

[RestInPieces777]

@Primalxbeast That's actually one of the better arguments against indefinite life extension. If aging is completely cured, who would want to take any risks? Who would want to skydiving, mountain climbing, hunting, etc.? If you accidentally get yourself killed, you lost so much more than you would have if you died by aging in a few decades anyway.

Maybe we should all lock up ourselves in vats and spend the rest of eternity in VR. :)

[SecularMentat]

@RestInPieces777 That's a poor argument if its one of the better ones. Frankly no one has had indefinitely life extension, so we are all assuming what actions will be taken.

We won't know until it happens, period. Anything else is blowing smoke.

Chances are it'll be an incremental process anyway, it likely won't be someone flipping a genetic switch and bam you have immortality, it'll likely be people living to 150, then to 180 and so on.

Which is what we're doing already.

[RestInPieces777]

@SecularMentat Indeed.

[davidajmartinez]

I'd love to live to be 1000 if I never aged beyond my current age of 21

[BottomFeeder10]

1000 years it still nothing on a cosmic time scale ;)

[wojovox]

Hope R. Kurzweil is right in his prediction of the singularity. I would like to stay conscious in this universe for at least another 900 years min.

[eydos]

I know I would not want to live 1000 years. The question was absolutely valid and plausible. The analogy was absolutely mismatching, the question targeted an intention that you do have at any point in time, while the analogy used to ridicule the question implied a demand for a prediction from your part. The question was not: WILL you like being 1000 years old, but do you feel NOW, like wanting to be that old! And I personally find very easy to respond to that question: no.

[RestInPieces777]

@eydos Fine. Enjoy your coffin.

[SecularMentat]

@eydos From the rest of his videos on his talking about the actual mechanisms for allowing someone to live to 1000. You'd essentially live to 1000 in a 30 year old body. that never ages past that point. (of course any of it is purely speculative at this point....so its like arguing about what color a unicorn's mane is.)

[johammbass]

Humanity will be living digitally, on a microchip, within the next 500 years, easily. Longevity won't be an issue as long as we have a source of energy i.e. a star

[melrobRTF]

Hahah, Imagine your 20 and your thinking... only 780 years until i can retire. :)

[SecularMentat]

@melrobRTF I think it might mean something different to retire if you can live forever. You could go to college and learn every thing humanity has learned in a few decades. You could buy a plot of land and live off the land for 300 years if you like. I can't imagine retirement would even exist in a world like that. Just the interest off of a few dollars in the bank for a thousand years would be ridiculous.

[philhellenes]

What would YOU do to be clinically immortal? What wouldn't you do? That's right...and so would everybody else. But it CAN'T be for EVERYONE.

The good news is that the leaders, the rich and the powerful, will finally look to the distant future. The bad news is you won't be part of it. That will truly be the world of the haves and the have nots. Imagine a air-headed Paris Hilton laughing, staying young, while your kids and grand kids grow old and die. That is what you're wishing for.

[jetboyJ22]

@philhellenes Why couldn't everyone (or at least most people) be immortal? Assuming that the technology develops to the point of mass-production (which it certainly would, given the exceptionally high demand), nearly everyone could live as long as they wish. Overpopulation, if that is your qualm, would not likely affect a civilization advanced enough to prolong life indefinitely.

[kolearian]

The one time,recently, that I watched one of these short videos and actually wanted to watch the whole thing; It wasn't posted. Wtf?

[KRAZEEKOZ]

aubrey vid>>>on aging>>  /watch?v=7s4FAEGDzO8

[BroBroDude]

de grey kicks ass

[Lleanlleawrg]

If everyone else lived that long, and I could be guaranteed feeling as if I was in my 20s-30s for the majority of that time, yes. I would. But if I aged like a normal person, meaning being a hollow shell of a person in about 100 years or less, and all my friends and family dying, and me living on for about 900 years after that, no. Just no.

[RestInPieces777]

@Lleanlleawrg That's not what he's talking about, obviously.

[TheRagtagChicken]

Holy shit, somebody's that not afraid to swear in public for once. I like this man. Full of energy and quick to throw his thoughts out there.

[DimmedDiamond]

Did he even answer the question properly? Was he under the impression he was going to be immortal until he reached 100 then drop dead?

[TOTCD]

@DimmedDiamond Hahaha your comment made my day.

Good one.

Do you want to live to be 100?

[RestInPieces777]

Haha, I love this video. Aubrey de Grey is one of my heroes. One of the most brilliant dudes on the planet.

[yuriythebest]

@RestInPieces777 I just hope he succeeds. f*** those people that want to age- I want to explore space and when this universe reaches heat death to jump to another one and do so for eternity. it's only after your 1000th birthday that one can begin to appreciate life properly