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  • Which is the Leitmotif in 2:38? It also appears in Sigfriedsruf.

  • @mboschm That's the Siegfried-motif, followed by Wälsungenliebe-motif.

  • What is the oboe motiv at 8:30 called (or what does it represent)? It's one of the most beautiful leitmotivs in the ring.

  • @serRudyll : this is the "Entsagungs-Motiv" (renounciation to love). It is first heard in Rheingold when Alberich renounces to love in order to obtain the gold. One of the most beautiful motives of the Ring, indeed...

  • @84Ulysse Thanks! It'll be a while before I've unraveled the whole web of ideas and motives that is the Ring, and I'm glad it is that way. Still so much to discover...

  • @serRudyll I find very interesting how he uses the Entagung letimotiv here. Wotan is forced to renounce his daughter if he is to preserve the existing order of the gods. By using the same love-renouncement leitmotiv introduced by Alberich, the music mirrors how this renouncement is not that different to Alberich's renouncement of love in order to gain riches. In both cases they have a choice and choose to renounce love (which is not done lightly, hence the tragic feel of the leitmotiv).

  • I've seen all the great Wotans everywhere...and Pape is right up there near the top. A wonderful singing actor.

  • IMO René Pape is what Wagner expected for Wotan: a "hoher Baß ", with easy bottom and top notes (and, of course, strong medium sounds). But he is, nevertheless, a true bass, not a "Heldenbariton"!

  • 4:10 and on: I always burst literally into tears at this passage, when the motive (I think it is Brünnhildes Liebesmotiv, the most beautiful motiv in the whole Ring) increases, because it's so incredibly beautiful. Just divine - music from other spheres

  • Beautiful. Such a warm, noble and velvety voice. I hope he'll do it on stage too. I like human, gentle Wotans best, and he seems one.

  • Very good. Not as Hotter, or Adam or Sotin. Promising. Let's see how he delivers after 3 hours of the white heat of Walkure with Brunhilde in his arms; the loss of his blessed daughter;his whole existence shown as a fraud. Let's hear the noble, tender, heartbroken, Gott. Bitte.

  • i'd give anything to hear pape sing wotan over terfel

  • Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • great

  • Very good

  • WOW!!!!!!!! At last we get to hear him as the "Walkure" Wotan!!! Perfect for him,, not since Hotter or London! (Yes I love James Morris's Wotan),,, wonderful conducting!!! I'm thrilled to hear and see this!!!!!!

  • Talk about a role fitting a voice like a glove. Quite the versatile singer, I saw him in Banquo earlier this year and he sounded just as well suited to Verdi as he does to Wagner.

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