the point of water cool intercoolers is your using water to transfer the heat out of the air. water is much better at heat transfer, my mate put one on his escort which gave him about 60 bhp more.
such a sweet air to water set up! May I ask how tall the intercooler is? I know my ETS topmount is 3.25in. Also how big is the heat exchanger? Thanks man
Current water to air intercoolers work with the same cooling fluid used to cool the engine, once the water get's on temperature, the efficiency drops very fast. It needs another seperate radiator with special cooling liquid that absorbes heat faster from metal ( for instance like gasoline does )
@barthoedemaker This statement is correct for some industrial diesel engines but it certainly do not apply to automotive. WIC used in cars today use a separate radiator and reservoir to cool down the air charge.
I have a 2007 mazdaspeed3 and I would like to know who does this kind of work in the nyc metro area? I cant seem to find a mod store that both sells the products and installs them...any help out there?
Water can absorb much more heat than air can , however once this water gets up to temp and heat soaked its also that many times harder to remove the heat. So if you're blasting on it, without cool down time your intercooler water temps are going to be pretty high.
I've heard W/A is great for the track because you can add a resivior system with ice, but for the street, not so good, especially in the summer idling in traffic bringing the water to like 120 degrees.
Howver, the heat soaking issue while sitting in traffic can easily be adressed by adding a fan on the exchanger core so that water is kept cool at all time.. Actually, the exchanger is located close enough to the A/C condenser that it benefits from the cooling effect of the radiator and A/C fans when they're on.
@juspeed3 Yeah but FMIC adds more weight turbo lag and it takes away your frame tolerance in case of an impact. When you install a FMIC often times you have to take away part of the bumper support to fit it which would be shitty if you got in a wreck because there is a chance that your engine would be sitting in your lap. So keeping from going to a FMIC is best if you can.
A last time i checked heat risestherefore this setup is shit due to heat soak yeah the water cools it but buy how much front mounts are way better jus my opp.
Nice! Would like some data on this system, please. Efficiency, charge temps, pressure drop, etc. It would be interesting to see how this stacks up against a good air-air IC
Beau petit setup, reste juste à voir si ils vont être capable d,éliminer le petit lague à 5000tr, je l'ai essayé, l'exhaust 3 pouces sur ce petit bolide, (il appartient à un de mes clients satisfaits Mazda), lui donne un son vraiment trippant... hâte de voir la suite...
the point of water cool intercoolers is your using water to transfer the heat out of the air. water is much better at heat transfer, my mate put one on his escort which gave him about 60 bhp more.
Blunder1248 9 months ago
such a sweet air to water set up! May I ask how tall the intercooler is? I know my ETS topmount is 3.25in. Also how big is the heat exchanger? Thanks man
silver01TACOMA 11 months ago
hell of a kit you got there man, how much better does water cool the air instead of the standard front mount intercooler?
shizzel122 1 year ago
Looks-Cool-in-all.... Ok, I give up! What is the purpose? More HP? Increased TOP END? What ????
nuffflavor 1 year ago
Current water to air intercoolers work with the same cooling fluid used to cool the engine, once the water get's on temperature, the efficiency drops very fast. It needs another seperate radiator with special cooling liquid that absorbes heat faster from metal ( for instance like gasoline does )
barthoedemaker 1 year ago
@barthoedemaker This statement is correct for some industrial diesel engines but it certainly do not apply to automotive. WIC used in cars today use a separate radiator and reservoir to cool down the air charge.
turbinetechca 1 year ago
@turbinetechca How much can you cool the water then? What's the average temperature in celcius of the water ?
barthoedemaker 1 year ago
I have a 2007 mazdaspeed3 and I would like to know who does this kind of work in the nyc metro area? I cant seem to find a mod store that both sells the products and installs them...any help out there?
blueknight5758 1 year ago
HUH!?! What the hell made that intake tube move like that from :35 to :37 ?!?! Dude... is that normal? Boost shouldn't be shaking down anything man.
corotor12345 1 year ago
Water can absorb much more heat than air can , however once this water gets up to temp and heat soaked its also that many times harder to remove the heat. So if you're blasting on it, without cool down time your intercooler water temps are going to be pretty high.
I've heard W/A is great for the track because you can add a resivior system with ice, but for the street, not so good, especially in the summer idling in traffic bringing the water to like 120 degrees.
Nettikturbo 2 years ago
Your statement is 100% correct.
Howver, the heat soaking issue while sitting in traffic can easily be adressed by adding a fan on the exchanger core so that water is kept cool at all time.. Actually, the exchanger is located close enough to the A/C condenser that it benefits from the cooling effect of the radiator and A/C fans when they're on.
turbinetechca 2 years ago
@turbinetechca I'm happy to hear that some fans would be enough to minimize soak. Any data on this?
Nettikturbo 1 year ago
ghost civic is a duche who doesn't know shit bout cars
juspeed3 2 years ago
i think ill still go frount mount it looks sexier
juspeed3 2 years ago
looks yah, but fucntionality no.... espacially if you live were its hot.
ghostcivic99 2 years ago
@juspeed3 Yeah but FMIC adds more weight turbo lag and it takes away your frame tolerance in case of an impact. When you install a FMIC often times you have to take away part of the bumper support to fit it which would be shitty if you got in a wreck because there is a chance that your engine would be sitting in your lap. So keeping from going to a FMIC is best if you can.
rextuner03 1 year ago
Data / Dynos or go home.
v0rt3x86 2 years ago 12
Well where're the dyno charts?
v0rt3x86 2 years ago 7
lol stupid!
ghostcivic99 2 years ago
A last time i checked heat risestherefore this setup is shit due to heat soak yeah the water cools it but buy how much front mounts are way better jus my opp.
juspeed3 2 years ago
how expensive was that kit
thegarbageman21 3 years ago
did anyone get responses to questions on this or did i miss something?
movovr 3 years ago
Where can I get one and how much do they cost? Please respond!
Cnr01ex 3 years ago
give us more info please.
frgspeed6 3 years ago
Nice! Would like some data on this system, please. Efficiency, charge temps, pressure drop, etc. It would be interesting to see how this stacks up against a good air-air IC
thapr3dat0r 3 years ago
Any problems hitting the hood with the stock engine mounts? Is that a 4.5" core or 3.5"? How large of a heat exchanger did you fit?
SSbnoonSS 3 years ago
Beau petit setup, reste juste à voir si ils vont être capable d,éliminer le petit lague à 5000tr, je l'ai essayé, l'exhaust 3 pouces sur ce petit bolide, (il appartient à un de mes clients satisfaits Mazda), lui donne un son vraiment trippant... hâte de voir la suite...
madgix777 3 years ago
the only question that matters: do they make it for the MS6?
BoostNinjas 3 years ago
Yup, It fits the MS3 and MS6 model. Parts are 100% interchangeable and can be retrofited to both.
jardamuth 3 years ago
badass!
gsrtype1 3 years ago
what is the info on this? Any data on this intercooler?
Alexsered 3 years ago