@m9078jk3 Nazi imagery is illegal in Germany and seen as very offensive. It's only allowed in exceptional circumstances. German's don't want to remember the planes as Nazi planes, but just admire them for what they were.
@FistsOfFury21 British people will say the Spitfire was the best, Americans will say the P-51 mustang. Both easily shot down this Jet. Although it was incredible technology for the time, it came too early to be effective. Later Jets were refined.
@ojideagu it actually came to late to be an effective fighter jet, Hitler wanted the ME262 to be an Blitzkrieg bomber, delaying the later fighter version by almost a year!
Good to know they built some night fighters at least! Or as they call them these days-"operational trainers"...I appreciate your candor in the matter-I have my "multi-engine turbine" rating here in the US, but haven't flown anything meaner than a Beech King air 350...good fun, but not exactly up the Me262 totem pole! Nice talking to yer!
The original 262 that was copied for the project was a 2-seat trainer restored for the US Navy. To date no buyer has requested a night fighter variant, according to the project website. But I could see one being modified as such sometime in the future just for a change.
So how in Hell do you get a type rating in an Me262? Do you just phone up Willi Reschke and ask him to do 3 touch-and-go's with you? Must be rather an involved process...
Good question, which I cannot answer entirely. There are other civilian jet warbirds, such as the L-39. Stick time in a high-performance jet is probably mandatory. Four of the five new-builds will be airworthy, and they built both 2-seaters and conversions that can be either single-seat or 2-seat. So potential pilots should be able to get supervised flight time in them. The Collings Foundation initially planned to offer rides only to qualified jet pilots but that may have changed.
Glad to see that there are still a few uncompromising individuals out there who have the means and the gumption to keep these wonderful aircraft from fading into oblivion...I deal with sterilized, cookie-cutter bizjets all day; Gulfstream V's are nice, but they never made my willy tingle!
So these new-build jets run on Jet-A fuel, and not 87-octane gasoline like the originals, I take it? Sounds like a Cessna T-37 "Tweet"; ultra high-pitched at idle!
Modern GE CJ610 engines running on Jet-A. One private museum is restoring a WWII original 262 to original condition for flight. They are having the original Jumo engines remanufactured with modern aerospace materials for safe (safer, I suppose) operation. The project is private (so few pics) but most aviation people know about it. Hopefully it will succeed with a flying example. The new Euro regulations and insurance were problematic for antique aircraft operators a few years ago.
That's interesting...I would have thought the opposite; European-built and registered on all counts. I've been out of the loop for too long, I guess! I am familiar with the prohibitive costs involved, especially in Great Britain, of insuring even visiting aircraft for airshows; the B-17 "Sally-B" was quoted prices in the thousands of pounds per hour just to appear at the Farnborough and Fairford shows back in 2010. Thank you for the information on the fighters!
Unless the FAA has relaxed it's rules concerning "foreign equipment" surplused aircraft, or even new-build experimental or limited aircraft, there's little chance you'll see an Me262 at a US airshow, or any of those "new" Me109's or Fw190's. There is the possibility they could apply for a temporary Airworthiness Certificate for selected very important US airshows (Oshkosh, Reno, etc...), but the costs are considerable and the process can take months and even years. Sad!
The new Me262s were built (and test flown) in the US and only one has foreign registration. The Collings Foundation is waiting on FAA paperwork to fly their 262 with passengers. Several new-build Fw190s are US based and one WWII original Fw190 and Me109 are currently flying in the US and more will follow soon. The new-build Fw190s are owner-completed allowing a different registration category (and lower insurance.) The British CAA seems to be far more restrictive on warbirds currently.
sigh one day hopefully before i die one of these treasures will visit australia. Perhaps one may come to the upcoming airshow in melbourne next year /sigh. I can always dream i guess.
one of the few planes trully deserving the description of beautiful. The thing was meant to be in the air, the air is its element
Thank you for the excellent video. The ME-262 was way ahead of it's time. What a beauty. I understand they were also building replicas in Washington state USA a few years ago, but I don't know how many they got to build.
Your English is excellent you got the point across well. Blastassfromthpast is just a low life perasite that wonder in here by mistake, doing what he was trained to do ...spread rumors.
Can't you figure out that Volodyyy is a russian immigrant that lived in russia and has nothing good to say about them. He is more educated than you are in what happened in WW II Europe and who were the real murderers. Where in the fuck are you coming up with these redicoulus figures? from an american or allie web site. Give me the names to those numbers you BIG giant fool. Get the fuck off this site and stop bullshitting folks. You might not be geo.w. bush by chance would you??????
I never said that communism was good, I don't like it either, but the majority of its destruction was caused to countries that were ruled by it, not to others. Those numbers are not ridiculous, you can find them easily... if you really want to. And your way of expressing opinion shows who is the actual idiot here.
blastass I see you was re-educated by victory channel were you come up with 50 million from re-educations camp russia scum killl 60 million and you no upset poor asshole just wondering around world speading manure
First of all, learn some basic grammar before you even dare to write anything. Second, insulting people while not being able to support any claim with actual valid arguments clearly shows who is more likely to be a poor asshole here. And guess what? I've just checked, the number of the victims of fascism actually goes over 60 million. If you count the Axis as well since their deaths were also the consequence of the fascist regimes, it's more than 70 millions.
If memory serves, it's illegal to display the swastika in Germany . . .idiot. Same reason we don't fly the Confederate battle flag . . .except in idiot states.
@blasty137 - You're absolutely right, communism didn't kill 50m people. Stalin alone is responsible for at least 60m, only Mao is worse, about 80m, historians say !!
First of all, the 60m for Stalin is an absurd number - that is the highest estimate ever made which is not realistic at all, the actual number is much lower. The same goes for Mao - it's between 50 and 70 million. Second, that is what they did in their own countries (ok, the vast majority is), not to others so it's not comparable to the fascism.
I meant that this aircraft might not have flown during WW2. I know that the Me262 did! My bad, for making my comment sound like this! Sorry. C130 (Hercules?).
Jumo engines were actually excellent, the only thing that made them 'unreliable' was the fact that jet engines were supposed to be made of cobalt, but at that time Germany was cut off from Turkey which they were supplied with cobalt from, so they were forced to make them of steel which was not exactly suitable and therefore each engine had to be replaced after 8 hours of work.
any flying 262's in the states? It is rare to see any fighters other then p51's sometimes you will see a tunderbolt which is cool...last year i counted 102 p-51's at a show it was the largest gathering since ww2 but i would love to see a 262 or a 109
@BUDS6T7 We have a p-40,cosair,spitfire, polikarpov, mustang, harvards, hurricane all flying here in new zealand. We had a REAL 109 (not the merlin engined buchon that you see alot of) but a db powered 109 that came out from england for the major airshow we have here (warbirds over wanaka).
The single-seat Tango Tango is now in Germany. The 2-seat version will fly with the Collings Foundation in the US, so you should have a change to see it at airshows.
@BUDS6T7 I just photographed the latest (and final) Me-262 to be built in the United States at Paine Field this morning. Gorgeous bird! This one will stay in the US, as will a two-seat version the Colling's Foundation has.
Visit Everett, Washington if you want to see the best collection of WWII aircraft! We have (original) Fw-190, Bf-109E-3, 2 Spitfires, Hurricane, Thunderbolt, 2 B-25's, I-16, P-40C, Bearcat, Tigercat, etc. All airworthy.
Yes it has modern engines, the original Jumo engines were too experimental and failure prone to match the flight safety regulations of airshows or general flight safety standards of our times.
Two General Electric J-85/CJ-610 engines were utilized instead.
imagine seeing a german fighter pilot looking at this for the first time.
railfanatic844 2 weeks ago
What no Swastika (Hakenkreuz) marking on the vertical stabilizer?
A shame.
m9078jk3 9 months ago
@m9078jk3 Nazi imagery is illegal in Germany and seen as very offensive. It's only allowed in exceptional circumstances. German's don't want to remember the planes as Nazi planes, but just admire them for what they were.
ojideagu 5 months ago
Herr Messerschmitt would be very pleased to see his baby flying again, even with engine modifications!! Thanks for the interesting vid!
fmg50 10 months ago
so awesome!
Fourteen88SoCal 10 months ago
Best plane of WW2.
FistsOfFury21 11 months ago
@FistsOfFury21 British people will say the Spitfire was the best, Americans will say the P-51 mustang. Both easily shot down this Jet. Although it was incredible technology for the time, it came too early to be effective. Later Jets were refined.
ojideagu 5 months ago
@ojideagu it actually came to late to be an effective fighter jet, Hitler wanted the ME262 to be an Blitzkrieg bomber, delaying the later fighter version by almost a year!
liambloemendaal 1 month ago
Good to know they built some night fighters at least! Or as they call them these days-"operational trainers"...I appreciate your candor in the matter-I have my "multi-engine turbine" rating here in the US, but haven't flown anything meaner than a Beech King air 350...good fun, but not exactly up the Me262 totem pole! Nice talking to yer!
deedsie 11 months ago
@deedsie
The original 262 that was copied for the project was a 2-seat trainer restored for the US Navy. To date no buyer has requested a night fighter variant, according to the project website. But I could see one being modified as such sometime in the future just for a change.
FiveCentsPlease 10 months ago
So how in Hell do you get a type rating in an Me262? Do you just phone up Willi Reschke and ask him to do 3 touch-and-go's with you? Must be rather an involved process...
deedsie 11 months ago
@deedsie
Good question, which I cannot answer entirely. There are other civilian jet warbirds, such as the L-39. Stick time in a high-performance jet is probably mandatory. Four of the five new-builds will be airworthy, and they built both 2-seaters and conversions that can be either single-seat or 2-seat. So potential pilots should be able to get supervised flight time in them. The Collings Foundation initially planned to offer rides only to qualified jet pilots but that may have changed.
FiveCentsPlease 11 months ago
Glad to see that there are still a few uncompromising individuals out there who have the means and the gumption to keep these wonderful aircraft from fading into oblivion...I deal with sterilized, cookie-cutter bizjets all day; Gulfstream V's are nice, but they never made my willy tingle!
deedsie 11 months ago
So these new-build jets run on Jet-A fuel, and not 87-octane gasoline like the originals, I take it? Sounds like a Cessna T-37 "Tweet"; ultra high-pitched at idle!
deedsie 11 months ago
@deedsie
Modern GE CJ610 engines running on Jet-A. One private museum is restoring a WWII original 262 to original condition for flight. They are having the original Jumo engines remanufactured with modern aerospace materials for safe (safer, I suppose) operation. The project is private (so few pics) but most aviation people know about it. Hopefully it will succeed with a flying example. The new Euro regulations and insurance were problematic for antique aircraft operators a few years ago.
FiveCentsPlease 11 months ago
That's interesting...I would have thought the opposite; European-built and registered on all counts. I've been out of the loop for too long, I guess! I am familiar with the prohibitive costs involved, especially in Great Britain, of insuring even visiting aircraft for airshows; the B-17 "Sally-B" was quoted prices in the thousands of pounds per hour just to appear at the Farnborough and Fairford shows back in 2010. Thank you for the information on the fighters!
deedsie 11 months ago
Unless the FAA has relaxed it's rules concerning "foreign equipment" surplused aircraft, or even new-build experimental or limited aircraft, there's little chance you'll see an Me262 at a US airshow, or any of those "new" Me109's or Fw190's. There is the possibility they could apply for a temporary Airworthiness Certificate for selected very important US airshows (Oshkosh, Reno, etc...), but the costs are considerable and the process can take months and even years. Sad!
deedsie 11 months ago
@deedsie
The new Me262s were built (and test flown) in the US and only one has foreign registration. The Collings Foundation is waiting on FAA paperwork to fly their 262 with passengers. Several new-build Fw190s are US based and one WWII original Fw190 and Me109 are currently flying in the US and more will follow soon. The new-build Fw190s are owner-completed allowing a different registration category (and lower insurance.) The British CAA seems to be far more restrictive on warbirds currently.
FiveCentsPlease 11 months ago
Willkommen zu Hause, Kumpel :-).
neomuttley 1 year ago
It's beautiful... and the sound! What a wonder!
ChromatopelmaDude 1 year ago
sigh one day hopefully before i die one of these treasures will visit australia. Perhaps one may come to the upcoming airshow in melbourne next year /sigh. I can always dream i guess.
one of the few planes trully deserving the description of beautiful. The thing was meant to be in the air, the air is its element
kineticdeath 1 year ago
The aircraft knows no markings or politics, just IS...existentially..
That should be enough....
375GTB 1 year ago
the fijians actually had a far superior fighter to this before 1938, top secret, google it
covingtonium 1 year ago
@covingtonium I call bullshit!
takingdaggers 1 year ago
What an aircraft! Beautiful!
49bobbyk 1 year ago
It just isn't the same without the swastikas on the tail. Just a thought.
Humbertusmarius 1 year ago
@Humbertusmarius they are not allowed in germany.
takingdaggers 1 year ago
Amazing.Thank you for this.
1815ish 1 year ago
a living leyend!!
gogiva 1 year ago
Thank you for the excellent video. The ME-262 was way ahead of it's time. What a beauty. I understand they were also building replicas in Washington state USA a few years ago, but I don't know how many they got to build.
billace90 1 year ago
Volodyyy
Your English is excellent you got the point across well. Blastassfromthpast is just a low life perasite that wonder in here by mistake, doing what he was trained to do ...spread rumors.
nodarnfool 2 years ago
blastass
Can't you figure out that Volodyyy is a russian immigrant that lived in russia and has nothing good to say about them. He is more educated than you are in what happened in WW II Europe and who were the real murderers. Where in the fuck are you coming up with these redicoulus figures? from an american or allie web site. Give me the names to those numbers you BIG giant fool. Get the fuck off this site and stop bullshitting folks. You might not be geo.w. bush by chance would you??????
nodarnfool 2 years ago
I never said that communism was good, I don't like it either, but the majority of its destruction was caused to countries that were ruled by it, not to others. Those numbers are not ridiculous, you can find them easily... if you really want to. And your way of expressing opinion shows who is the actual idiot here.
blasty137 2 years ago
blastass I see you was re-educated by victory channel were you come up with 50 million from re-educations camp russia scum killl 60 million and you no upset poor asshole just wondering around world speading manure
volodyyy 2 years ago
First of all, learn some basic grammar before you even dare to write anything. Second, insulting people while not being able to support any claim with actual valid arguments clearly shows who is more likely to be a poor asshole here. And guess what? I've just checked, the number of the victims of fascism actually goes over 60 million. If you count the Axis as well since their deaths were also the consequence of the fascist regimes, it's more than 70 millions.
blasty137 2 years ago
If memory serves, it's illegal to display the swastika in Germany . . .idiot. Same reason we don't fly the Confederate battle flag . . .except in idiot states.
karlvanhooten 2 years ago
uh....how many southern states had/have the confederate flag as part of their state flag?
we don't actually outlaw that flag. Bigots need their own special moron symbol.
misterobvious 2 years ago
Where is the tail markings?? Still scared ? Make it complete. No one has problem to display red star or hammer and sickels... Hypocrites
volodyyy 2 years ago
No they don't because unlike fascism, communism didn't kill 50 million people.
blasty137 2 years ago
@blasty137 - You're absolutely right, communism didn't kill 50m people. Stalin alone is responsible for at least 60m, only Mao is worse, about 80m, historians say !!
MegaLiopleurodon 2 years ago 3
First of all, the 60m for Stalin is an absurd number - that is the highest estimate ever made which is not realistic at all, the actual number is much lower. The same goes for Mao - it's between 50 and 70 million. Second, that is what they did in their own countries (ok, the vast majority is), not to others so it's not comparable to the fascism.
blasty137 2 years ago
@blasty137
That's fucking retarded. They had no right to murder a combined 130 million people, no matter whose country those people lived in.
alysluv 2 years ago
stunning
RabidRat88 2 years ago
Man the plane is a beauty......
lilloko1000 2 years ago 5
barbaro che.. quien lo podra imaginar !??
gabyfree2 2 years ago
Beautiful! I'm glad it's flying now though & not during the war!
martynpank 2 years ago
they flew during the war
C130wannabepilot 2 years ago
I meant that this aircraft might not have flown during WW2. I know that the Me262 did! My bad, for making my comment sound like this! Sorry. C130 (Hercules?).
Respect!
martynpank 2 years ago
If that guy went straight to full power his engines would go on fire and he would be done for...
whitrope55 2 years ago
go to stormbirds home page they offer rides which require a deposit in advance for a ride in Me 262 B-1c or Me 262 A/B1c conversion.
Ride Program is offered under CollingsFoundation
fluffy1931 2 years ago
yeh back in WW2. that was when it used the extremely unreliable Jumo engines. this reproduction uses General Electric
J85 engines.
rc37 2 years ago
Jumo engines were actually excellent, the only thing that made them 'unreliable' was the fact that jet engines were supposed to be made of cobalt, but at that time Germany was cut off from Turkey which they were supplied with cobalt from, so they were forced to make them of steel which was not exactly suitable and therefore each engine had to be replaced after 8 hours of work.
blasty137 2 years ago
any flying 262's in the states? It is rare to see any fighters other then p51's sometimes you will see a tunderbolt which is cool...last year i counted 102 p-51's at a show it was the largest gathering since ww2 but i would love to see a 262 or a 109
BUDS6T7 3 years ago
Actually this 262 was built in the USA. Google for Me 262 Tango Tango. ;)
Celeon999A 3 years ago
@BUDS6T7 We have a p-40,cosair,spitfire, polikarpov, mustang, harvards, hurricane all flying here in new zealand. We had a REAL 109 (not the merlin engined buchon that you see alot of) but a db powered 109 that came out from england for the major airshow we have here (warbirds over wanaka).
pramboy09 2 years ago
@BUDS6T7
The single-seat Tango Tango is now in Germany. The 2-seat version will fly with the Collings Foundation in the US, so you should have a change to see it at airshows.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
@BUDS6T7 I just photographed the latest (and final) Me-262 to be built in the United States at Paine Field this morning. Gorgeous bird! This one will stay in the US, as will a two-seat version the Colling's Foundation has.
Visit Everett, Washington if you want to see the best collection of WWII aircraft! We have (original) Fw-190, Bf-109E-3, 2 Spitfires, Hurricane, Thunderbolt, 2 B-25's, I-16, P-40C, Bearcat, Tigercat, etc. All airworthy.
fight2flyphoto 7 months ago
Does anybody know how many parts of the Junker engines are still originals(if any)or if they are fully replaced by new modern engines?
Thanks.
visconte2 3 years ago
Yes it has modern engines, the original Jumo engines were too experimental and failure prone to match the flight safety regulations of airshows or general flight safety standards of our times.
Two General Electric J-85/CJ-610 engines were utilized instead.
Celeon999A 3 years ago 2
Hello Celeon999A, many thanks for engine information.
visconte2 3 years ago
cool...its amazing how early the jet was developed... 40something years after the first flight...
Catscan93 3 years ago
very cool plane!
am i wrong in saying it was the worlds first jet-propelled plane?
Catscan93 3 years ago
The first series produced military fighter with jet engines, yes.
First flight of a prototype was on 18. Juli 1942.
Celeon999A 3 years ago
Actually, the first jet plane was the Heinkel He 178, in 1939. The Me 262 was the first *operational* jet aircraft.
blasty137 2 years ago
when was the air show ??? last weekend ??
666fred313 3 years ago
Yes, ive shot the video on Saturday
Celeon999A 3 years ago
cooollllll! :) thnx for posting it! ^_^
gester27 3 years ago