Death in June - Luther's Army

[miriitisw]

I don't think he is a fascist, but the usual arguments against those accusations are terrible.

"He played in Crisis" - numerous people have shifted from left to right.

"He's gay" - Ernst Roehm, Nicky Crane, Martin Webster...

"His father fought for the Allies" - George Lincoln Rockwell fought for the Allies, but later on formed the American Nazi Party!

"He performed in Israel" - your only valid point. djakubo's claim that "most neonazists [sic] are not against Israel" is untrue.

[Boskopist]

below every Death in June video the same discussion!

To be a gaynazi is full of sarcasm on irony - and exact what this all is about!

Rose clouds of political correctness, are rose clouds of lies!

[MatrioshkabBrain]

He's a fascist, and so? Louis Ferdinand Cèline was a nazi but nobody can discuss his cleverness...

[backtoearth2]

alot of people are saing this is racist how is it so

[helicon666]

Perfection

[yoyo3man]

Impossible to resist...too beautiful.

[GolliwoggMusic]

Golliwogg APPROVES of this song.

[vampiro2881]

oh my god ....what music!!!..perfect

[ubbuu]

wow so beuatiful and atmospheric brings back so many memories

[Saki666Dark]

One of the most beauty songs of DIJ...

[ESOTERICSTRAND]

Such a tremendously good song from a tremendously good album! Thanks for uploadintg this.

[kemicon]

I remember hanging out with this insanely hot jewish girl telling her about Death in June and her getting it and loving them.

[rem0rt]

@kemicon Jewish people are smart and intelligent mostly. Wisdom nation...

2ReadSchopenhauer: what do you want me to expalin? i tried to say that it could be better to made more mixture sound with modern electronic. rappers, hip-hoppers mix all the stuff they able to do in their music. this is a postmodern way to do the arts ))

[findlaymcarthur]

datsss bullllshit]

[rem0rt]

all this pathetic folk without any drum is sooo booring. i like to listen to allerseelen because his music has a style, melodies, drive, Drums, true synths and it's all well done, industrialized. But whenever i try to find something similar and modern, all links lead me to these sleepy songs. somehow even ballads ! Hate this, why they cant just do it modern and wide, but no so plain and stupid ???

[Aterkomsten]

@rem0rt

drum is a african cultural thing.European Folk traditional music where always smooth and peaceful. and modernity is a creation of the jews to destroy the Aryan race.

if you don't like,stop listen and get the fuck out become a wigger with your filthy hip-hop music and you will be happy with your monkeys friends,iam sure of that.

[rem0rt]

@Aterkomsten Its a big big talk. they just live now and make the musik. and you see at them and make music without all non-european elements. its like not to wear denim or wide shirts. they arent think about you, but you only think how not to be like them. it shows that you have some troubles in mind but they dont. yes, thereis a native Kora music from mali and other ortodox folk from africa, maybe DiJ tries to make some authentic nordic music,but there were a lot of big drums in ancient europe.

[rem0rt]

why just not to be modern and cool. old drums, medieval marches, power vocals, rubbish strings and pads, more energy and modern way to put it all together. niggas adopted their black music, but whities just showing old tricks. it's a big mistake to put the drums away of "proper white" music, its better to adopt it.

[cyndromeda]

@rem0rt i guess you should listen toa different band since this is clearly not what you are looking for. they certainly have enough fans that do enjoy their music. keep looking, i'm sure you'll find something you like or either start making your own music, since you know so much about. it. ;>)



[rem0rt]

@cyndromeda

i tried several years ago, but the work-time begun and i have no time for this no more )) anyway many of the ambient or folk songs without drums are original and authentic, my last passion was the final piano track from "raushe shale" album made by Allerseelen and Dimo Dimov. sounds very fresh even without any beats/ They call it modern classics )) Peace, folk people !

[ReadSchopenhauer]

@rem0rt please explain

[rem0rt]

@arseropes

why?

[rem0rt]

by the time: o paradis is much way better example of folk-industrial music. listen it about a year ant it hurts !

[yoyo3man]

Probably one of the best songs ever.

[JadedRomantic]

I need imagery of German Soldiers and the Third Reich. SIGH

[yoyo3man]

It's from "But, what ends when the symbols shatter?"

[riverman7]

@yoyo3man No.

[stosto2010]

ПАРУССКЕ БЛЯТЬ ПЕШЫТЕ ТВАРИ!

[gwish37benzo]

D16, amazing musick. Just found their Totenkopf hoody with Europa: The Gates of Hell on the back for 50 dollars @ this record store. I like all kinds of music but D16 is beyond words. Illuminating.

[gwish37benzo]

D16, amazing musick. Just found their Totenkopf hoody with Europa: The Gates of Hell on the back for 50 dollars @ this record store. I like all kinds of music but D16 is beyond words. Illuminating.

[LConoy]

This sounds a little too similar to "Under the Milky Way" by The Church....

[kdj29]

gb / sing dij

[AlgisKemezys]

love the music

[servometallo91]

bello vedere che in Italia c'è ancora qualcuno che continua ad ascoltare buona musica. Gran gruppo, grande canzone!

[wizotch]

beauty is the enemy this is beyond amazing dij6 blows modern music away.

[Shashkoila]

mir scheint, daß viele verirrte Death-in-June-Fans mehr rechts sind als Douglas P., die schauen halt auch nur die Oberfläche an und nicht dahinter

[apfelbrot2]

@Shashkoila dir ist wohl bekannt das du in einer raum-zeit verzögerung von so um die gut 20 jahren das schreibst?

kids these days....

[chrall92]

Oh god,I love music,I have to check them out..

[zeromancerrrrr]

ab 2:35 bekomm ich immer Gänsehaut, fantastisch.... Clan of Xymox hatte auch so töne drin, wirklich grossartige Musik, DiJ

[lizardale]

When I listen to the words of this song I realize that Douglas P.'s songwriting is simply amazing.

[lizardale]

Ambiguous, clever. Like every amazing thing.

[pilzfusss]

herrliches Lied - fabulous Song - der absolute Traum - Gedanken die kreisen, vorallem in der Mitte....

[slartybardfarst52]

sounds a bit like unbekannter soldat by Sleipnir but slower

[pilzfusss]

DiJ, macht weiter, lasst Euch nicht von den imperialistischen Politik unterdrücken, sagt was ihr wollt, seit frei !

[islespatrick]

I felt depressed one day and I listened to this. It basically helped me cope with how I felt.

[islespatrick]

such a shame that music today does not have this type of talent in terms of beauty

[vrem]

even if he is a facist, who gives a fuck. john lennon touched little girls vaginas and nobody seems to care, because the beatles made great music...

[wkskfk]

@vrem I fuckin do care. I dont like john lennon either. Fuck racism

[eyeamlegend5]

@wkskfk Douglas Piece is not a racist. Get the sand out of your politically-correct vagina and just enjoy the damn music.

[wkskfk]

@eyeamlegend5 Where the fuck did I say that death in june are racists? You probably have your head shoved up your vagina thats why you speak without knowing, I cannot find another excuse for you. You could just ask though. My comment was a reply to someone else. Go read it before you express your opinion, my prejudiced fellow

[redcommando1]

@vrem Since when did The Beatles make "great music"?.

[ImKumek]

@redcommando1 since anyone thinks is "great" - it is

[Daffitt]

He can't be a fascist - played in Crisis, homosexual, father died in WW2 on ally-Side, had concerts in Israel... you see it relatively often, that neo-folk-bands play with the look of being a bit fascist.

[djakubo]

@Daffitt

well, your probably right but some of your arguments are unsatisfactory. most of neonazists are not against Israel, just the opposite, the're mostly against arabic countries and muslims in western countries. moreover, check info about nazi schwule, there was quite nice documentary here on youtube on the topic. you will be surprised.

[chchores]

@Rhademanthus fuck yea CRISIS!

[vastnessandsorrow]

dammit now I kind of like Death In June....I so wanted to dislike him.

[TheDopeboyfresh1]

@vastnessandsorrow

same thing for me

[Rhademanthus]

@vastnessandsorrow For what conceivable reason?

[annefrankisaho]

@vastnessandsorrow

I too let preconceived politically correct assumptions guide my life.

[waxarlequin]

@vastnessandsorrow Hahahahaha I feel exactly the same way! ;D

[Heavymetalgamer28]

@vastnessandsorrow

why would you want to dislike such a great band?

[RunningFromthe80s]

These guys make some nice music, but im not sure about this fascist-background-thing.

[Rhademanthus]

@RunningFromthe80s There *is* none. Read some interviews, or watch the Live in New York dvd (on imgettingtiredofthis channel). He makes reference to the images of WWII as vehicles for completely different poetic points.

[RunningFromthe80s]

@Rhademanthus

I actually did and I came to the same conclusion.

Now that ive read some things about them, I dont think that they are anywhere near fascism at all.

[Rhademanthus]

@RunningFromthe80s Awesome. I love you.

[Rhademanthus]

@RunningFromthe80s, @Rawlinson18, @vastnessandsorrow: /watch?v=zaNVDCufgkc

He's not a fucking fascist, for Christ's sake. Pearce played in Crisis.

[Rawlinson18]

Great tunes watch the perception of these songs though.

[kirstym84]

me only just got in 2 this kinda muzic but: tis growing on me 2 sum tune : )

[aloofasalways]

this must be one of my favorite neofolk songs ever, but the version with the trumpets is better

[Relaxe]

Mine too, and i agree

[msnikish1]

@aloofasalways who the fuck asked your 2 cents ass wad

[aloofasalways]

@msnikish1 you don't own youtube, is there a problem with commenting on this song? do i need permission from you to comment? i'll make sure to check up with you from now on before i do anything on the internet since apparently i'm an "ass wad"

[deliriocculto]

stupendo, io ho coverizzato rose clouds of holocaust, lo ritengo uno dei migliori...

[Nechepsos]

si prende l umore... guisto

[deputycat]

So funktioniert Gehirnwäsche, im Kleinen, wie im Grossen, totalitäre, faschistische Ideen in ein ansprechendes Ambiente hüllen und so Stück für Stück Akzeptanz eines derartigen Gedankengutes erhöhen, bis sich sogar Sympathie und Verständnis einschleicht.

[Bone2050]

Gebe ich Dir vollkommen Recht.

Darum sollte man auch an den Stellen kritisieren, wo sich Rassismus und faschistische Strukturen im gesellschaftlichen Kontext etablieren. Und nicht an Orten wo kleine, eigentlich unbedeutende Bands mit provokativer Kunst arbeiten, die sich selbst nicht ernst nimmt. Oder kennst du auch nur einen gefährlichen Neonazi, der in Schwulenpornos mitspielt und offen zugibt nicht nur zu Ostern auch mal gerne Eier in den Mund zu nehmen...? ;)

[Toastieboy999]

Es gibt auch einen unradikalen Weg seine rechte Ader auszudrücken, ich möchte hier jetzt aber nicht damit anfangen, was denn besser ist, denn die Diskussion wird schon seit über 60 Jahren geführt, ich persönlich bin definitiv rechts, aber nicht radikal, d.h. ich würde niemals jemanden verprügeln weil er z.b. aus Polen kommt.

Wenn man es wie ihr in normalen Ton schreibt finde ich es gut, sonst hört man immer nur "nazi dumm uga uga".

[snirf666]

du bist paranoid

[AbisjianaKakaschka]

@deputycat ja alles schön und gut trotzdem ist und bleibt der Sänger schwul

[originalred19]

it's great

[Rotermatron]

@DrSoltberg

ja das stimmt mein fehler! man sollte alles in einen gewissen blickwinkel sehen

so auch diese musik da hast du vollkommen recht! es geht allein um die gefühle die bei sowas entstehen. gut geschrieben

[Rotermatron]

DrSoltberg das ist wie man siht ja ansichtssache^^ aber schön das man hir nicht verurteilt wird^^

[DrSoltberg]

Es geht schließlich um die Musik und nicht irgendwelche politischen Diskussionen...

Ich glaube auch kaum, dass Death in June nun offensiv zu etwas politischem aufrufen...

Sondern, dass es mehr um die Musik geht und die Gefühle

[Aufpassser]

naja, mann sollte schon von einem politischen Hitergrund ausgehen, wenn mann die weiteren Lieder und Texte kennt.

Ausserdem würden wohl nicht sehr viele unpolitische Sängergruppen ein derartiges Gewand wählen bzw einen solchen Dolch um sich damit ablichten zu lassen oder ? Meines Erachtens eindeutig.

[Toastieboy999]

Nunja ich kann auch rechts sein, und muss keine Bomberjacke tragen und Springer mit weissen Schnürsenkeln, es gibt genauso noch Royalisten in unserem Land, aber die schlagen sich doch auch nicht die Köpfe mit den Demokraten/Republikanern ein.

Ich persönlich versuche so tolerant wie möglich zu sein, gerade was andere Religionen und Ansichten angeht. Das gibts genauso bei den Linken, es gibt diesen radikalen Flügel und die weniger Radikalen.

[gutworm1]

which album is this from?

[msm1791]

DISCriminate ('81 ~ '97) (and many others)

[RavenXGhost]

@gutworm1 Roseclouds of Holocaust

[93Rian]

@gutworm1 Rose Clouds of Holocaust

[freebretth]

@gutworm1 Primarily from Rose Clouds of Holocaust. It's been on compilations as well, though.

[iamgangstalicious]

@gutworm1 this song is from the rose clouds of holocaust album

[nahik14]

@gutworm1

Rose clouds of holocaust

[93Rian]

@gutworm1 Rose Clouds Of Holocaust

[Rotermatron]

ich find die musik ansich gut. obwohl ich links bin

[DrSoltberg]

Ich find die musik an sich gut, obwohl ich nicht links bin

[SvartTK]

@Rotermatron Man muss bei DiJ auch sehr differenzieren können. Er hat definitiv Aussagen geschoben, die nicht in Ordnung sind, aber was ihm teilweise aufgrund der Provokation vorgeworfen wird, ist schon sehr übertrieben (Wobei ich denke, dass er es aufgrund der Enttäuschung von der Linken mit Crisis auch sehr darauf anlegt). Schwieriges Thema... Und ja, auch ich als Anarchosyndikalist höre seine Musik gerne und finde die Provokation an der sehr dogmatischen Linken auch durchaus in Ordnung =)

[jerry0431]

@Rotermatron du solltest dich mal mit der band auseinandersetzten

[Daffitt]

@Rotermatron Ist schwierig, auf Death in June klar zu kommen, finde ich. Ich schaffe es einfach nicht, ihm zu glauben, dass er durch ein Naturerlebnis auf Island auf "Rose clouds of holocaust" gekommen ist. :D

[TheEarthling2]

@Daffitt

Da stehst du nicht alleine da..

[apfelbrot2]

@Daffitt cocala is great and snickers tastes awsome!

reason enuff?

[isolationblack1]

cheers, one of D.I.J's best songs

[kadunamaus]

@ nuwavghost

are you a fucking nazi?

[Oxix999]

Thanks for uploading.

[XMxOxRxSX]

perchè i dij vanno così tanto in italia

e sopratutto perchè nonostante sia italiano non ne ho mai sentito parlare?

[Chimera844]

Perchè sono/è un un progetto grandioso, che ha scritto dischi magnifici.

[XMxOxRxSX]

senza ombra di dubbio alcuno

grandi liriche

inedite sensazioni

[Alicia7777777]

Impressive video... 5*

[msm1791]

thank you so much Alicia... :-)

[ButterBricks]

Dunno bout the visuals but...lol

[patermtube]

"Luther's army" - what it means?

[galen365]

1) Not all of Douglas P.'s lyrics have a single, autonomous, uniform meaning- not even to him! 2) I definitely think this has to do with Modernism, as it is centered primarily in the Protestant, French and Industrial revolutions. (From this interpretation, Modernism is a bad thing; read Julius Evola for more info on "Radical Traditionalism"... quite influential for Douglas P. in specific, and Neo-Folk music in general)

[cvjucla3]

Also, good readings about the differences of modernism and pre-modernism (Traditionalism) can be found in Max Weber's "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism"and in Erich Fromm's "Escape from Freedom."

[turboloiz]

Death In June = classe da vendere, pathos, autenticità allo stato puro. Una delle cose più sottovalutate della storia della musica.

When life is disappointment...

[cuthere72]

wonderful.

[XMxOxRxSX]

quella cazzo di maschera

[AleksejFedorovic]

io ci vado in giro con quella nella vita di tutti i giorni

[XMxOxRxSX]

come darti torto...

hai tutta la mia comprensione

[atonsolaris]

This song always gets me. Perfect guitar and the voice of Douglas.

[MCKRUSH]

"Rose Clouds ..." is the strongest DIJ release to date. Great stuff.

[Iamnickl]

god

[nuwavghost]

HAIL! The white grain. I love this song <3

[DitraFlame]

questo brano è da brividi..

[msm1791]

la mia preferita di death in june con rose clouds... e falling apart...