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  • Quote: "We don't believe in no fuckin purgatory no more" lol

  • There is no such thing as Judeo-Christian. It's a post-holocaust construct. There is no hell in Judaism, no eternal punishment, nor rewards. Eterrnal torture for finite "sins" is a Christian belief.

  • You know what's sad? I have two cousins in college who watch and believe what this fuckface has to say.

  • lets not forget that christainty murderd billions of people as well, that makes christains mass murders they have blood on their hands.

  • Does Bill realize that there are other denominations of Christianity other than Catholicism?

    

  • 100% Proof There's No god. Somewhere out there, there is a church that allows Bill O'Reilly thru the front doors, giving him the opportunity to repent for being a Piece of Shit on a daily basis, Wow. The crucifixion and resurrection of christ would have to be repeated Just for Bill. If there was a god, he would choose Glen Beck for round 3 crucifixion, No resurrection. Finely giving Closure to a story that has molded our society into the twisted piece of Shit that it is today.

  • There needs to be a test that these guys need to take before being able to rant in front of millions on T.V. It would have to include logic, physics and cause and effect. Bill O' would certainly fail and therefore be pulled from T.V. Faux "news" would be pulled off the air in its entirety. Can we get a Constitutional Amendment here!

  • So what would Bill say if the other guy had said, "what if Hitler or similar evil tyrant had asked god for forgiveness and been saved just minutes before they died" They go to heaven...how would Mr. dipshit O'Reilly feel about that?

  • This is pathetic, If O'reilly is going to be a Christian at-least be consistent with what Jesus taught. Those crazies at the Westbourgh Baptist at-least argue what the bible actually says. Let us not forget that a Mass Murderer can be saved in Christianity through faith, so the cosmic justice argument doesn't even apply to their faith. I have news for Bill O, if Ghandi isn't damned then the teachings of Jesus are false. Also free will doesn't exist in the faith, according to the apostle Paul

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  • Religion is the acceptance of ignorance to whatever extent one chooses to believe in it over factual information or evidence. It is that simple. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand the English language or is just in denial. EDUCATE YOURSELF.

  • Fuck, my family and their friends are christians and they'd judge you by the damn clothes you wore. Leave judging god? Yeah, sure....

  • Bill O'Reilly's ego, attitude and ignorance drives me fucking insane!!!

  • @9:10 there is a speck of rationality

  • i refuse to watch bill oreilly, but if u edited all the bill reilly videos like this. i can watch them all day long.

  • 8:10 - O'reilly and the rest of Fauxpaganda betray America and humanity in general 24/7/365. So if there's a hell (there isn't), the whole Murdoch/News Corp mindwarp troupe are heading south to burn for eternity.

  • 3:12 - is that an exact quote from Pope Benedict? Because if it is, then my respect for him has gone up about 1000 per cent. A swearing pope with dreadful grammar? Brilliant!

  • You gotta love him! One moment he says that there MUST be hell to take Hitler to, and the very next moment he says that it's not up to him - or us - to judge...!!!

    WOW!

    I've noticed that often times Mr. O. doesn't listen to his interlocutor is saying, but he obviously doesn't even listen to himself...

  • Yes Bill you may have to do something about the Hitlers of the world while their alive. Perferably before they kill millions of people.

  • What pisses me off is Billbo doesn't even know his own fucking religion. I was a Catholic, and I know that John Paul II said that there is not literal Hell and that basically what happens is that there is no afterlife (I guess everybody is going to "hell") and there's a total separation from God. I thought the Pope was infallible with religious issues? Both JP II and Benedictus also said that evolution is valid so Bill believing in literal creationism is even more foolish.

  • @ilackedtheheart I need to clarify something, yes Bill says nonbelievers who are sincere in their search for "God" are immune, but that doesn't change the fact that he's disagreeing with this pastor when the Pope and the pastor have the same view on literal Hell. It doesn't exist, even if you're a depraved individual.

    Why Hell doesn't exist is pretty obvious though, because it's all made up bullshit.

  • @C0ct0pusPrime I think we can agree that in the end, everyone should keep there beliefs to themselves unless asked upon. Whatever makes someone a good person, rather its believing in god or not, go for it. I have met athiests and religious ppl who are assholes and met athiests and religious ppl who are great, kind and generally good people. who cares what someone believes in, just be a decent person about it, right?

  • Frickin funny as the idea of hell.

  • Such anger. I like it keep it coming.

  • "Good will be rewarded and evil punished in the afterlife"? Where the hell does he get that? *Belief* (swallowing God's load) will supposedly be rewarded and lack of the right belief punished--even though belief can do no one any good and disbelief can certainly do no one any harm.

    There's not even the pretense of justice, just petty, sadistic narcissism.

  • @qbulb you obviously disagree with me, yet take the time to write to me...why not just ignore me like you expect me to ignore o'reilly? and you can save your 'jesus dies for you' shit for some 6 year old that doesn't know better.

  • @C0ct0pusPrime Well spoken

  • Cocto ... Not one person can live up to God's standards. If we could, then Jesus would not have need to come and die to TAKE AWAY our sins. You are not saved by the death of Christ; you are saved by his life. See Romans 5:10. His death was necessary to cleanse us of all sin so that our righteous God could come and live in us. He loved us that much that He CHOSE to die for us to save us from hell. Isn't He merciful? C, you need peace. Learn of Him and see that He is good. He loves you!

  • Cocto ... (con't) Jesus came to die on the cross taking upon Himself all the sins of the world, so that people could be saved by having Jesus come to live in them. You don't want to be saved. You aren't looking for the truth. You are afraid. Anger is almost always followed by fear. You sound very afraid. No matter how much you have sinned, you can be saved. God loves you. If Hitler had come to Jesus to be saved, he'd now be in heaven. It is unlikely but I cannot say. I am not his judge.

  • Cocto ... Don't you know any other adjectives besides cuss words? It is disgusting. I don't see how something so negative can bring anything positive to your life.

    Bill O'reilly's idea of what God is saying is incorrect. We, Christians, do not go to heaven because we are good. We go there because we have Jesus living in us. Without Him in us, we are lost. And yes there is a hell. I didn't say it. The Bible says it plain and clear. We cannot just up and decide there is no hell.

  • One dumbass versus another dumbass. ' my thuper hero ith better than you thuper hero, tho there'.

    I have always hated Bill O'Riley. Always! He's a true scumbag.

  • Hell is real and so

    Is the tooth fariey

  • They still believe in purgatory, just not limbo (permanent home for righteous pre-Christ heathens, like Plato).

  • Hitler was a catholic like Bill O'Reilly

    Hitler wrote in his book, Mein Kampf: ". . . I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lords work." Also in a speech before the Reichstag in 1938.

    In 1941 Hitler told Gerhard Engel, one of his generals: "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."

  • Hitler 1933 speech in Berlin: "We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."

    In Hitler's own words so you religious nuts can claim whatever you want about him being an atheist but it is Historical fact that he was NOT!

  • anyone rather be in hell with Hitler than in heaven with Bill O'Reilly?

  • The stupid... it burns...

  • Bill O'Reilly seems like an asshole. The way he said that thing about Hitler and Stalin and them at the beginning just made him sound like a dick.

  • I believe hell is real. Seek God, folks! He is your only salvation!

  • Watching OReally is living hell...

  • The Invisible Unicorn is purple, of course.

    It's Twilight Sparkle, having cast an invisibility spell.

  • Europe has lots of non belivers and they have lower crime rate than we do.

  • @rockking05 They also have less people.And their centers of population are more centralized,along with the anti-gun laws as well.

  • I so love YouTube -- remember these are GROWN MEN on national TV taking about an imaginary place like it's this crap is REAL....

    Thanks C0ct0pusPrime!!!

  • @apologeticsman calling you a smug retard would be an understatement.

    you might as well say "a true atheist would just steal, rape, and do drugs because they think there is no afterlife."

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  • @apologeticsman You're statement demonstrates severely flawed logic. That's not what a "true" Atheist is. Being an Atheist means that you do not acknowledge the existence of a deity. It does not mean that an you refuses to acknowledge the existence of the church and it's followers, along with the HUGE political implications these people have on our countries. If I were to reverse your logic, Theists, (or Christians, you Idiot) wouldn't acknowledge the existence of Atheists.

  • @apologeticsman

    Please do a Youtube search for "Atheists secretly believe in Yahweh" (it's the one by NonStampCollector). It provides the perfect analogy as to why atheists argue against god/s while not believing in them. If the church of Voltron was doing harm to the world, you'd fight it even though you didn't actually believe in Voltron, right? Same thing.

  • @apologeticsman

    It isn't god(s) or their gospels that bother most atheists, its that they're people who believe and follow them to the point of causing destruction to human kind and the world as a whole. Many of these followers use their beliefs to delegate legislation, censor facts and theories, harass and kill people and make an all around attempt at shifting the world into a theocracy under their faith

  • @LadyAmaltheaUnicorn If we attempt to make laws which end or limit immorality such as the slaughter of millions of innocent babies and "gay marriage" then that's a good thing. Don't think for a minute that just because you have the right to not believe in God that it means you have the right to break His most sacred and important laws. Murder is never ok, no matter what your beliefs tell you, and things like gay marriage simply should not exist, because they go against God and even science.

  • @apologeticsman

    An embryo is not a baby, you're entitled to your beliefs about their rights but a zygote resembles nothing of a human being until it forms into a fetus (and even than...). And I have yet to hear an argument against homosexuality outside of religious dogma.

    My point is, if you can't make an informed and realistically moral stance against something without whipping out a religious ideology than I have a problem with that. The real world shouldn't work around myths

  • @LadyAmaltheaUnicorn

    and...

    "Murder is never ok, no matter what your beliefs tell you"

    Yahweh murdered people and endorsed it as well, so if we were to go off of biblical morality we'd have to go back to burning people for witchcraft and blasphemy

    "and things like gay marriage simply should not exist, because they go against God and even science."

    Who says if there's a god it must be Yahweh? And science doesn't make any claims against who should be allowed to marry, that's not its purpose

  • I would have enjoyed watching the show, then hearing the commentary.

  • @apologeticsman I am fighting back the tears at this injustice. I feel your pain. Its a scandal, plain and simple. There ought to be a law. What is the president doing about this vile sickness etc

  • ...Just say your afraid... Just say your blind... Just say "Im too carnal, simple minded, base and degenerate to comprehend spiritual things.." One day my friend you will die and have to stand before the very same Jesus Christ that you are mocking today.. One day you will regret your very own words... One day you will realize you were Wrong! You deny Christ because you hate law, accountability, righteousness and change.. The dead know the secret of whats beyond the grave!!

  • 'As you may know the basis of Judeo-Christian tradition is that good will be rewarded and evil will be punished in the afterlife'

    Think you need to learn your religion douchebag. If you believe and repent you go to heaven, if not you burn!

    Exactly why religion is BS.

  • @maskofsan1ty then you don't mean religion, you mean Christianity and Islam. They're the only two I know with eternal hellfires. Don't lump all religions in with them and call it BS, because that makes you look ignorant.

  • @Kawamura2 I was talking more about the double standards within religion, not their belief in a hell.

  • Glad im from UK, i dont have to see these people on tv, id probably be pissed off too.

    But hell is a moral imposibity, I dont think any actual person could remane sane, let alone happy with the knowledge of trillions of people (some really undeserving people) being brutally tortured for eternity and not being able to help them, and thats what heaven would be. No matter how many backrubs and blowjobs are available, friends and relatives are being burned indefinatly, and so heavn cant be enjoyed

  • 1:10 "and you are just dumb enough"

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  • Fucking right on.

  • I have bin to hell

    It is my right wing amarican inlaws were they watch Glen Beck and O'Rielly and tell me how smart Beck is and how it is a shame we don't have sombody like him in Canada to show us the way.

  • I love how he uses Judeo-Christian, considering the long history of hatred and killing b/w the 2. Judiasm doesn't have a concept of hell, that came along after the advent of Christianity, also doesn't have the idea of going to heaven, when you die, you are dead, period the end.

  • The punishment the bible states is that when you die, you go to hell, where your soul is destroyed for all eternity. That is why they are said to be granted eternal life. Actually there's a church group with a news letter called "Tomorrow's World" that quotes parts of the bible that say such.

    It's all just absolute bullshit. The more people read the bible, the more they'd give up their faith. You have to be an idiot to know the bible inside and out and still think it makes sense.

  • I really don´t understand the christians hatred for Judas, if he existed. The whole purpose of Jesus´s time on earth was to die for our sins, if you believe that.

    So why is Judas a monster? If it wasn´t him someone else would point out "Thats Jebus, that´s him". Poor Judas...

    If you have a problem with the idea Jesus dying for your sins ask God how he could be so cruel. How he could watch his only son being pursecuted and punished for us. Thats some bad parenting right there...

  • Fucking insane cult savages.

  • There is no Heaven.

    But there is a Hell.

    And Hell is wholly man-made.

    It's better known by it's other name:

    WAR.

  • @Silberdachs Hippie.

  • A thought, as evil as Hitler was, after roasting in Hell for a billion years don't you that at a certain point he's gotten sufficient punishment and learned his lesson? Does it really need to be eternal? The Christian hell make's Hitler's concentration camps look like a luxury resort. I think even a single day of it might be excessively cruel even for the likes of Hitler.

  • @videoguy604

    There is a difference though, hell is a choice, Hitler's concentration camps were unjustly forced upon people that did nothing wrong, it was persecution out of pure hatred.

  • @1776iscoming If someone puts a gun to your head demanding your wallet, handing over your wallet is as much a "choice" as gaining salvation is in the bible. The god of the bible is a thug who says, "Worship me or burn."

  • @videoguy604

    No, God wants a relationship with us, which leads to eternal life with Him. People that choose not to want a relationship with Him here, choose to spend eternity apart from Him. Knowing Jesus is awesome man, but only a humble heart will allow one to seek God. Pride is the biggest downfall of humanity and the biggest reason why people spend eternity apart from the God who loves them.

  • @1776iscoming A relationship forced at gunpoint is called "rape"

  • @videoguy604

    No it isn't. Man you can do whatever you want, but nobody will have any excuse when they stand before God. I'm just telling you what the bible says, these aren't thoughts that I contrived.

  • @1776iscoming Why should I care what the bible says any more than I should care what the Koran says?

  • The GOP is doing it's best to create a hell right here on Earth.

  • Its all just a case of faith over deeds. Do what you like during life, murder, rape or whatever you like. Just accept Jesus as your lord and saviour and you'll be going to heaven. Just hope none of your friends or relatives are gay or believe in another religion, because they'll go straight to hell!

  • @cablepanos

    U are a fucking genius.

  • It's quite amusing how the religious position on what constitutes what in the after life has changed multiple times over the centuries while the atheist position has remained the same.

  • @Raptor302

    The biblical view of salvation has never changed, salvation comes through grace alone. It's either faith in Jesus Christ for the atonement for your sins or it's eternal seperation from God.

  • @1776iscoming According to your subjective version. Obviously you can tell by watching the video that not every christian shares that view.

    It is also untrue that the biblical position has been consistant. The early christian leaders were divided over whether salvation was acheived through faith or through works. Eventually the two were blended together with works being an indicator of faith. That is still the excuse apologists give to this day.

  • @Raptor302

    No sir, the earliest Christians believed in salvation through grace alone. You can see instances in some of Paul's letters in which some were going back to a works based faith and he corrected them. Grace alone was and is the primary message of the New Covenant.

  • @1776iscoming Well then, it all comes down to your defining of a "christian". I've had people tell me that catholics aren't christian, even though they obviously are. They added in a purgatory and limbo and changed the requirements for each in addition to heaven as did other sects. Also if the early church was a concensus on faith, how do you explain 2 James 2:14? My point stays the same, religious people constantly redefine and interpret their texts to their liking.

  • @Raptor302

    I don't believe Roman Catholicism is biblically Christian. They have many false idols, and though they do not acknowledge it, they hold Mary and the "saints" on the same level as Jesus. And like you said, they have also added purgatory and some other things. James 2:14 is stating the same thing Jesus said, that you will recongnize His children by their fruits. Works are an outward sign of an inward change, but no amount of works can buy salvation.

  • @1776iscoming "I don't believe Roman Catholicism is biblically Christian"

    Hence the subjective part. You are running around with your own interpretation, just like they are.

    "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?" James 2:14

    Obviously the author of James is advocating that faith is not what saves someone. Hence the conflicting standards that I outlined earlier.

  • @Raptor302

    Read all of the book of James, nowhere is it indicated that the author of the book believed in works based salvation. Works are a fruit of salvation and the Holy Spirit working in you, nowhere in the New Testament is there any type of works based salvation supported. Why do you think Catholics and Mormons felt the need to add works based salvation into scripture? That is why I do not consider them Christian sects, they are works based religions, Christianity is not.

  • @1776iscoming All of christianity is a religion because it requires faith. I suppose you are one of those that tries to redefine religion in order to avoid calling your faith religious? Also read more of James. The book that describes faith without works as "dead". James 2:24 "...by works a man is justified, and not by faith only" You are grasping at straws.

  • @Raptor302

    No, technically Christianity is a religion, but when I look at every other faith/religion, it is nothing but going through the motions. The whole bible is based on redemption and a personal relationship with God. Also, it is the only faith that bases salvation of what God did and does, not us.Bro I've read James probably 20 times, it's one of my favorite books in the bible, there is nothing that is said that causes me to believe there is any other way to salvation but through grace.

  • @1776iscoming Except the verses I just gave you, but like every christian i've met you have selective filtering enabled. When your relationship is with a being that you can't prove exists, that's called religion.

  • @1776iscoming So Christianity is based solely on faith. How is that moral??

  • @atheistram

    If our salvation was decided on works, we'd all be damned to eternal seperation. Our salvation is based solely on what Jesus did on the cross, He took our punishment and wrath. It has nothing to do with anything we could do except for humbling ourselves and accepting God's free gift.

  • The invisible pink unicorn is irrelevant, what about the dragon that lives in my garage?

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  • coctpus, dude, you need to get a real microphone. for realz.

  • 0:24, christian, not judeo-christian ><

  • @gan0nsl4y3r Actually it is Judeo-christian since Judaism came BEFORE Christianity.

  • @Gunnz287 k.. what i meant that jews dont believe in afterlife especially ~~~hell~~~

  • Billy Ho' Really?!?

  • Well, then the lying scum-bag BillO'Reilly would be heading there, hehe. It's hilarious, but I've seen here on YouTube that the fantasies about "Hell for bad people" is often the most important reason why people in America are christian! They're like two-year olds or something! I'm glad I don't live there, the stupidity would make me throw up. ( You are quite a few sane people too, but all the tards keep me from wanting to visit America) : )

  • Its interesting that dogmatic believers can sometimes take the liberty to modify the particulars of their own long-held belief systems when the situation demands it or when it suits them. Mental gymnastics sounds like fun.

  • I can't say it enough. Fox News has no credibility. This asshole is talking about the existence of hell, and not as a joke.

  • @cidrosmith i believe people cry themselves to sleep! way to cry fag

  • It seems to me that Anti-Christian activist not only lump all Christians into the same belief system, claim to know what they believe, & condemn them for enjoying their right to believe what they want, while at the same time condemning them for not believing as they do. If you are Christian or not, please respect the right of others to believe as they wish, & to the Anti-Christians out there, if someone tells you that you are going to hell, it doesn't mean that you are. They are not God. Peace.

  • @ComProdMan1 "It seems to me that Anti-Christian activist...lump all Christians into the same belief system, claim to know what they believe, & condemn them for enjoying their right to believe what they want"

    ah yes, xianity, where you can twist it to fit whatever your views happen to have. but last i checked, all xianity is based on the bible.

    & you are lumping atheists together by saying that we condemn the right to believe what you want, when its far from true for the vast majority of us.

  • @C0ct0pusPrime Never once did I mention the word Atheist in my comment.

  • @ComProdMan1 But BillO didn't say that what he was saying was his own personal belief, he said it was the teachings of "my church". We know O'Reilly is a Catholic. We know that what he's saying here doesn't fly with the Catholic Church's teachings. So we know that he is full of BS.

  • @ComProdMan1 I only lump all Christians together because they all believe in stupid stuff.

  • @tonkashouse A comment to this is actually a waste of time. Broaden your mind. Peace.

  • @ComProdMan1 A comment to my comment is a bigger waste of time. There probably is no god. Peace back at you.

  • @ComProdMan1 ...Just say your afraid... Just say your blind... Just say "Im too carnal, simple minded, base and degenerate to comprehend spiritual things.." One day my friend you will die and have to stand before the very same Jesus Christ that you are mocking today.. One day you will regret your very own words... One day you will realize you were Wrong! You deny Christ because you hate law, accountability, righteousness and change.. The dead know the secret of whats beyond the grave!!

  • @ComProdMan1 Um, your an idiot. If you label yourself a christian then you have CHRISTIAN BELIEFS! You believe in the bible and if you don't then you sir are not a Christian.

  • @timmyjunior1 With many denominations of Christian, there are differences in beliefs-some big and some small. A Christian minister may say that he hates homosexuals. Does not mean that all Christians agree. They may not agree with their lifestyle, the may choose to accept or shun homosexuals. They may choose to love all people. It is narrow-minded to lump them all together.Many Christians do the same to others. Both are wrong like you calling me Idiot.You have your right to your opinion. Peace.

  • @ComProdMan1 if someone threatens me with hell I don't get pissed because I think its true, i get pissed because it is such a offensive thing to say. Its just coated up in religious drivel. If I said to you, you deserve to be tortured for an eternity because you are not an atheist would you just brush that off? Seriously? Its like saying your sister deserved to get raped because you are not a muslim only worse.

  • @philateliceun Then you need to lighten up and stop worring about what others think of you. It only matters what you think of yourself. Peace

  • @ComProdMan1 what? Getting offended by someone saying I deserve Hell is not the same as worrying about what others think. What are you talking about? Its an insult, its sadistic and bigotted.

  • @philateliceun "If I said to you, you deserve to be tortured for an eternity because you are not an atheist would you just brush that off?" Yes, I would without a thought. I don't get upset wit because I can or have the right to. I consider the source. I don't let simple minds rent space in my brain. I pity people who are sdistic and bigotted. They will never be happy. Nor will I if I let them get to me. I respect that you debate with a level head. Most just call each other names. Peace.

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  • When does bill o'reilly religious type shows come on tv? Is there a specific day or time or are they just random... me wanna laugh

  • bill o'reilly: its rude to interrupt.

  • What i can't wrap my brain around is how these Christian's want to profess to be so good and so righteous and yet they support Torture.

    The idea that there must be an Eternal hell is like saying to have freedom there must be the gas ovens of Hitler.

    After all if someone thinks differently then you that is equal to serial killers, child molesters.

    And of course acting as evil as they do well that is simply justice.

    Did all of these people bump their brain dead heads?

  • Hey Billo!

    The whole Holocaust was only made possible due to the historical antisemittism that the Catholic Church spread around!

  • Oh sky cake.

  • There absolutely is a Hell. It's called watching Fox "News" for anything more than ten seconds...

  • God: Ima punish you for ALL TIEM N FOAREVR for the mistakes you made during your (x-time) life because you're made in my image. HURR DURR IR GOD!

  • Ingersoll may as well have been speaking about O'Reilly when he said "A man who believes that doctrine and does not go insane has the heart of a snake and the conscience of a hyena."

  • Aw man they mean no one gets tortured in hell for all eternity,that is just so unfair.After all whats going to happen to all those gays and atheist sinners.I mean you can't be a good Christian unless you believe people are going to roast for eternity.Because of course thats what Jesus would do.

  • @theawakener7 Much appreciated, and I wish the same for you. Also, you're probably the nicest person I've ever argued with over this subject.

  • what if shintoism is real? i guess then bill will sufer in yomi forever bechose of his destructive actions. atlest the eastern religions are not saying "belive us or burn forever" they allso dont preach in the street corner. buddhist dont belive in absolute good or evil. they instead classify actions ither destructive or building. unlike muslims and christians who just suck on their gods dick. fuck the western monotheism. fuck all religion.

  • @theawakener7 Also, I spent a good amount of time thinking about that--almost a year in fact--when I decided to abandon my Catholic faith in my freshman year of high school.

  • @theawakener7 The reason I am against the existence of a god is because there is no evidence proving god's existence. We do not know the explanation of many things, but I can tell you one thing. We've proven that many things that once were explained by god, in truth, were not, such as disease. I'm willing to accept facts as they come, but at the moment, god is not a fact, nor is it a theory. It lacks evidence. Thank you for the entertaining convo :)

  • @theawakener7 You're right in that sense. I believe I am correct in the sense that our choices are limited by what is possible, but you're right in that it isn't entirely free. We are bound by natural laws, so if you look at it that way, free will doesn't really exist. I withdraw that argument, and admit that I am wrong. If I may ask, though, where did the whole "free will" thing come from, and how is it related to what I said initially?

  • Judeo Christian... Abrahamic religions LIKE ISLAM, Just it's one person with an interpretation... Cretin, Cretinous waste of air time.

  • @theawakener7 Free will means the ability to make decisions and perform actions by yourself and for yourself, limited, of course, by what is physically possible.

  • @Chaoticbravo Yes, give us free will and then command us to believe in him or go to hell forever. Sounds reasonable.

  • Hey c0c barack just confirmed that Osama has beem killed. Cant wait to see how FOX takes it, y'know the terrost presdient who cuts the terroist slack appereantly destroyed their leader and base....

  • @theawakener7 No, I understood that part, but what confused me was "measuring reality simply because a law is defined." Are you referring to natural laws we've discovered such as gravity? If that's what you mean, then you're implying that we believe that we know everything, which we don't. But enough beating around the bush. Yes, I believe I possess a free will. How it got there, I don't know. But then again, that's the point of science. To learn.

  • @theawakener7 I don't even see what that comment is supposed to mean, let alone how that comment is remotely related to what I said. Please clarify.

  • Hell was invented because the idea of heaven and redemption wasn't working on it's own.

    Everybody just thought fuck it, I'll just repent on my death bed and get into heaven anyway. So they needed something to threaten people with to make then obey and hell was "born".

  • One part of why I as a European laugh at Fox News is because they broadcast their extreme views of Christianity as the truth, or even close to factual.

    I mean, here in Sweden, we broadcast masses in Church but for cultural programmes, not like it was the obvious truth and a political ideology to frighten infidels with.

    Bill Ohreally is a clown.

  • "we are looked at as the morons" you dont know how right you are on that one coctopus lol. All the religious people i know think i am a complete idiot because i dont think that Noahs flood really happened. They actually think that they are the smart ones and everyone who doesnt agree with what they believe in is an idiot.

  • Christian's amuse me, they're worldviews change constantly to fit their goals.

    Christian: You better convert now or else you'll end up in hell.

    Atheist: So you're saying you worship a God that eternally tortures people who don't worship him?

    Christian: Well, no, actually you only go to hell if you're really bad like murders because such people need to be punished.

    Atheist: So child rapists can't go to heaven?

    Christian: Well they can if they tell God they're sorry, then its all good.

  • Defining aspects of religion to a pastor and phd theologist. Oh that's priceless

  • billo thinks that only god can judge people yet he has a segment in his show called pinheads and patriots LMAO!

  • @theawakener7 Lol. If you can figure out a way to examine the supernatural, I want to be the first one to hear about it.

  • Holy crap, thanks cocktopus for bringing this anti fundi bigotry to light. Pretty bad even for Bill-O.

  • Physical reality is Heaven and Hell.

  • People like Bill NEED Hell because sick, twisted, vindictive, little monkey fucks like him NEED to 'know' that everyone they don't like will be tortured for all eternity. They LOVE that thought. So obviously they respond negatively when you try to take their one and only divinely sanctioned bloodthirst away.

  • Would a Hell really make judicial sence? The average person lives 75 years, give or take, and for whatever actions you committed in that time on earth you will be given an eternal punishment (or reward, but lets face it, the chances of that happening to anyone on this planet are slim to none.) Yes people have done horrible things but at one point, the punishment no longer makes sense. Is 100 years enough? 1000? 1,000,000? for a few offences committed in a short 75 years? Rediculous

  • nice one

  • @theawakener7 Most Christians? Don't you mean "ALL" Christians? Nobody knows the answer to the question of where we go after death. There may, or may not be a heaven. The atheists who argue that there is absolutely no place for us to go are just as foolish as the Christians who claim the existence of heaven and hell. There is no evidence backing up either side, nor will there ever be. Both views are based entirely on opinion at this point.

  • @Chaoticbravo Wrong.

    Atheist are hardly as "foolish as christians".

    There's no evidence to support an afterlife, suck it up and stop being mad because religious folks are wrong more often then not.

  • @AgrivatedKillah Lol. I'm not mad. Also, I am an atheist, so why would I intend on insulting my own brothers? There is no evidence to support an afterlife, but at the same time there's no evidence to support there NOT being an afterlife. I'm just being honest. Yes, Christians assume that they are correct based only on blind faith, but there are a lot of foolish atheists who assume that they're right merely because they believe Christians are wrong. Science is about open-mindedness.

  • @Chaoticbravo What?

    That doesn't make sense?

    "Theres no evidence to support there's not an afterlife"

    And science isn't about being "open minded"

    Science at it's core is about figuring out the universe.

    You should possibly mean being a scientist, and not science its self.

    but I understand what you saying...

  • @AgrivatedKillah You're right. My mistake. I meant to say: There is no DIRECT evidence to support the lack of an afterlife. There never will be. However, our current evidence suggests that there is no need for a deity in our existence, which suggests that said deity, as well as his dwelling place, does not exist. There is also evidence that god was created by man.

  • @AgrivatedKillah Also, to be a scientist, you need to be open minded. I mean, scientists are currently debating whether or not quanta of light are capable of conscious thought. Sorry for any misconception. Sometimes I don't realize what I'm saying.

  • Insane fucking cultists!

    

  • How can bill claim to be part of some un heard of over accepting church yet want and think people need to burn forever?

  • I wouldn't give my heart to Jesus. For one thing, the Bible doesn't mention if he cuddles or not. Hitler knew how to paint at least. Dunno about that goofy little mustache though. I need my asshole licked, NOT brushed.