doesn't matter what race did the wrong then...point is humans are corrupt and easily manipulated. every race has corrupt people in it. us having different color skin and features...that is all a test. We are all in the human race and unfortunately we are so corrupt that some of us think we are above others. Let's not be fooled.
If I am to take this as a legitimate work, the author is going to need to use proper grammar and punctuation. The mistakes cast tremendous doubt on the validity of anything in the video.
@coreykoch13 if that is all you have to complain about my inaccurate grammar and my numerous typos, then you my friend are looking to cast doubt. I make no claims of being perfect, but the facts ARE facts, even if my less than perfect delivery is the means with which you receive it.
The slave trade is owned and run by Jews.Then we get a president who is given the credit for the emancipation act who is himself a Leather Face Jew does anybody else see the Irony?
No one can say slavery was right or equal to property rights because to enslave someone is the taking of property, the property of the slave to be free and himself.
@KEVLANEW80 thanks for completely missing the point. Freeing all the slaves... all at once, without compensation to the owners bankrupted 6 states. It's not an argument of the right or wrong of slavery, slavery is wrong. It's a matter of economics.
@prestrate Neo puritans believed the slaves couldn't be saved by the holy spirit if they were slaves. That god wouldn't come to them and would ignore them for circumstances outside of their control. They wanted to make the nation the perfect place for Jesus second coming, their view of perfection.
How can you make a comment like, " slavery wasnt so bad as to cause revolts." Being a slave is not on its own a violation enough to revolt? How can you justify the enslavement of a human being as 'not being bad enough to revolt'? Lynching o thousands of black men in the south, beatings on plantations, murders, burnings of black bodies, ruining of culture, family, of a whole continent? please educate yourself on your white privilege.
Even after abolition African-Americans' lives were mostly the same for the next century after the Civil War. Look at the South and its politics in the last 50 years and you can still see not much has changed at times.
Northerners were white supremacists. Look at the plains indians massacres under lincoln to increase federal control over the west in the early 1860's. The slaves weren't freed after the war. The same type of Jim Crowe laws that were up north just filtered down south and the slaves existed as masterless slaves. Legally they were "free" but enjoyed no freedom and had to live segregated and apart from whites.
John Brown was an insane psychopath. Even his own peers attest to his insanity. He and his ilk were looked at as a radically insane minority up there.
And I did not state that there was an Egalitarian Age. I said that the Englightenment and early 18th century was an age of egalitarianism, as it was. I am sure that the people living in pre-Terror revolution in France would agree.
And I would like to hear justification your belief that slavey could have been ended through "compensated emancipation".
The Democrats fillibustered at every point on decisive issues of slavery. If the South had played "compensated emancipation" at Missouri in 1820 or hadn't kicked up so much hell in California, 1850, your argument might seem credible.
Most of the characters you show date to the 1840s. Certainly not a period for the South's humanitarian slave treatment.
because compensated emancipation worked everywhere else int he 18th century.
In 1820 there was STILL slavery in most northern States, Massachusetts, New York, Conneticut, Rhode Island, and Delaware's economy's were still based on the slave markets at the time, no one wanted and end to it at that point.
Your lack of familiarity of Antebellum slave relations is not uncommon. The lack of major slave revolts indicate that treatment of the salves while not freedom was not bad enough to cause revolt.
"No one wanted to end it"... except the founding fathers who identified the need for a gradual abolition of slavery over the twenty years following the Revolution.
They might not have made noises to end slavery but it was generally seen, even at this stage, as an oppressive industry in an egalatarian age and an embarrassing reliance.
The founding father were not abolitionists. The Constitution gave the slave trade 20 extra years of life at the behest of those states with slaving license.
You really don't understand how slavery works do you. Slavery dies when it is no longer economically viable. It was not seen as an oppressive industry even by most of those that wanted it ended. Egalatarians are never last long enough to have an "Age"
William Wilberforce brought about the end of slavery, and he use to be part of it.
I did not say the founding fathers were abolitionists, nor do I intend to suggest that anymore than say 5% of the country was in the early years. But this admission does recognise a need to change.
And, incidentally, many, many contemporary source describe the failure of profit. Ultimately, I believe they are hiding their morals by saying that it is not a profitable institution but the southern belief that free labour was cheaper is incontrovertible.
The problem is that the North wouldn't allow it. the radical abolitionists pushed slavery into a time when it should not have still existed. Read Lysander Spooner a massachusetts non radical abolitionist. He explains it. I have a whole video dedicated to him.
The abolitionists wouldn't allow it. Read Lee and Davis what the leaders behind the abolitionists radical theories wanted was war and they got it. The south was the home of the majority of anti slavery organizations. It was anti-slavery. The Radical Abolitionists wouldn't allow it to end peacably and said horrendous atrocious untrue things about the treatment of the slaves. Things which are taught as fact now. They put the south in a defensive position.
The "logical source" had been ended in the early year of the 19th century with the end of the slave trade. Slavery was still legal but importing them was not.
The slave trade was still active until the 13th amendment. The last slave ship the nightingale was picked up in 1865 it was commissioned in Maine with a New York captain.
Something to consider... The war was not initiated over slavery. Initially, slavery was only of concern to the South, since they feared with a Northerner as President for the first time, that they would use it to further the Northern agenda. Lincoln wanted to stop the spread of slavery to the west, not abolish it. The reason he and Congress went to war was because secession was seen as rebellion. And the South destroyed all chance of diplomacy when they attacked Fort Sumter.
How do sir, I am personally a fan of what you said about Uncle Tom's Cabin, very few people know of this - or the secret six. Ultimately I like the question posed in your description about rights. The word 'rights' to me has always been flawed as no group (not individuals) will consent to a loss of their own to willingly do the right thing. Rights are also mutually agreed upon, but only by the powerful groups in society. My argument is perhaps, those who giveth, must taketh away.
one quick question that came to mind as I was watching it this time Southern Cross , when did the slave trade actually end? We are told in school that it ended in the very early 19th century if I remember it right. But in your video it seems like it goes on until just about the start of the war.
The U.S. Constitution protected it until 1809, and it wasn't declared outlaw(an act of piracy) until 1815. Slavery didn't end in the western hemisphere until 1883 with Paraguay ending slavery. Brazil, the largest slave holder in the western hemisphere ended slavery through emancipated compensation in 1881.
And don't neglect the fact William Wilberforce was a devout Christian. That gets lost on the dustbin of history. When Christianity has failed, it's not been agnostics or atheists coming to the rescue to cure society of Christianity's ills; it's been Christians reforming Christianity. Go tell that to the Nietzche crowd and see how far you get.
Oh, imagine that. My mom's side of the family is from Illinois and Michigan and they had the same kind of view of the South too. In fact, they couldn't understand why my dad, who's been raised in Arkansas and Missouri all his life, was still upset about the Civil War.
Hey man great video, Ive only heard like one other person ever mention the 'secret six" I like this vdeio because it shows that many of the abolitionists didnt give a damn about freeing the slaves, they just wanted to hurt the slave owners because of thier pre-concieved anti-Southern sentiments. Keep up the good work man! -Deo Vindice
also, was that the music from "for a few dollars more"? lol
Here's a guy that knows his history; I havent heard ANYBODY talk about this aspect of "yankee racial morality" in a very long time. This whole story is fascinating as hell; nice job XISouthernCrossIX.
doesn't matter what race did the wrong then...point is humans are corrupt and easily manipulated. every race has corrupt people in it. us having different color skin and features...that is all a test. We are all in the human race and unfortunately we are so corrupt that some of us think we are above others. Let's not be fooled.
rabbitssssnake 2 weeks ago
If I am to take this as a legitimate work, the author is going to need to use proper grammar and punctuation. The mistakes cast tremendous doubt on the validity of anything in the video.
coreykoch13 2 months ago
@coreykoch13 if that is all you have to complain about my inaccurate grammar and my numerous typos, then you my friend are looking to cast doubt. I make no claims of being perfect, but the facts ARE facts, even if my less than perfect delivery is the means with which you receive it.
XISouthernCrossIX 2 months ago
The slave trade is owned and run by Jews.Then we get a president who is given the credit for the emancipation act who is himself a Leather Face Jew does anybody else see the Irony?
MrGeorgesaxon 3 months ago in playlist More videos from XISouthernCrossIX
Good they should have went bankrupt. No person in history has ever embraced slavery. Even God killed the first born of Egypt.
KEVLANEW80 10 months ago
No one can say slavery was right or equal to property rights because to enslave someone is the taking of property, the property of the slave to be free and himself.
KEVLANEW80 10 months ago
@KEVLANEW80 thanks for completely missing the point. Freeing all the slaves... all at once, without compensation to the owners bankrupted 6 states. It's not an argument of the right or wrong of slavery, slavery is wrong. It's a matter of economics.
XISouthernCrossIX 10 months ago
This bullshit video has the nerve to defend slavery. Just sick sick sick sick.
PorkChopMissPiggy 11 months ago
@PorkChopMissPiggy defending slavery, not. Just pointing there is a wrong way to do the right thing...
XISouthernCrossIX 11 months ago
@ArtetlaMusique87 hate Obama? I don;t know the man, what's your problem?
XISouthernCrossIX 1 year ago
Full of historical and grammatical errors. You should study, at a real college, and read real books before attempting to educate others.
timwsc 1 year ago 4
@timwsc blah blah blah, yeah, I know I have a lot to improve vidmaking. You shouldn't condescend, it's demeaning and insulting to us both.
XISouthernCrossIX 1 year ago
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MrCosteffective 1 year ago
@MrCosteffective thank you for your loving critique, have a nice day....
XISouthernCrossIX 1 year ago
What was the abolitionist's motive to liberate the slaves? What was in it for them? Very informative Smitty, thanks!
prestrate 1 year ago
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What was the abolitionist's motive to liberate the slaves? What was in it for them? Very informative Smitty, thanks!
prestrate 1 year ago
What was the abolitionist's motive to liberate the slaves? What was in it for them? Very informative Smitty, thanks!
prestrate 1 year ago
@prestrate Neo puritans believed the slaves couldn't be saved by the holy spirit if they were slaves. That god wouldn't come to them and would ignore them for circumstances outside of their control. They wanted to make the nation the perfect place for Jesus second coming, their view of perfection.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
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prestrate 1 year ago
What song is this?
hazelgreenxoxo 1 year ago
@hazelgreenxoxo the theme to the movie "For a few Dollars more"
XISouthernCrossIX 1 year ago
How can you make a comment like, " slavery wasnt so bad as to cause revolts." Being a slave is not on its own a violation enough to revolt? How can you justify the enslavement of a human being as 'not being bad enough to revolt'? Lynching o thousands of black men in the south, beatings on plantations, murders, burnings of black bodies, ruining of culture, family, of a whole continent? please educate yourself on your white privilege.
hopecskelton 1 year ago
Even after abolition African-Americans' lives were mostly the same for the next century after the Civil War. Look at the South and its politics in the last 50 years and you can still see not much has changed at times.
seekoober 2 years ago
Northerners were white supremacists. Look at the plains indians massacres under lincoln to increase federal control over the west in the early 1860's. The slaves weren't freed after the war. The same type of Jim Crowe laws that were up north just filtered down south and the slaves existed as masterless slaves. Legally they were "free" but enjoyed no freedom and had to live segregated and apart from whites.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
This old quote sums it up best "Before the War you belonged to somebody, after it you wasn't nuthin' but a nigger"
Luigi84289 2 years ago
"i john Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood"
LateKnight347 2 years ago
John Brown was an insane psychopath. Even his own peers attest to his insanity. He and his ilk were looked at as a radically insane minority up there.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
history has judged slavery as a great evil and John Brown was one of the heros that brought about its end.
LateKnight347 2 years ago
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LateKnight347 2 years ago
And I did not state that there was an Egalitarian Age. I said that the Englightenment and early 18th century was an age of egalitarianism, as it was. I am sure that the people living in pre-Terror revolution in France would agree.
Do not apply straw man theories to my argument.
mogwai4000 2 years ago
And I would like to hear justification your belief that slavey could have been ended through "compensated emancipation".
The Democrats fillibustered at every point on decisive issues of slavery. If the South had played "compensated emancipation" at Missouri in 1820 or hadn't kicked up so much hell in California, 1850, your argument might seem credible.
Most of the characters you show date to the 1840s. Certainly not a period for the South's humanitarian slave treatment.
mogwai4000 2 years ago
because compensated emancipation worked everywhere else int he 18th century.
In 1820 there was STILL slavery in most northern States, Massachusetts, New York, Conneticut, Rhode Island, and Delaware's economy's were still based on the slave markets at the time, no one wanted and end to it at that point.
Your lack of familiarity of Antebellum slave relations is not uncommon. The lack of major slave revolts indicate that treatment of the salves while not freedom was not bad enough to cause revolt.
XISouthernCrossIX 2 years ago
False.
"No one wanted to end it"... except the founding fathers who identified the need for a gradual abolition of slavery over the twenty years following the Revolution.
They might not have made noises to end slavery but it was generally seen, even at this stage, as an oppressive industry in an egalatarian age and an embarrassing reliance.
mogwai4000 2 years ago
The founding father were not abolitionists. The Constitution gave the slave trade 20 extra years of life at the behest of those states with slaving license.
You really don't understand how slavery works do you. Slavery dies when it is no longer economically viable. It was not seen as an oppressive industry even by most of those that wanted it ended. Egalatarians are never last long enough to have an "Age"
William Wilberforce brought about the end of slavery, and he use to be part of it.
XISouthernCrossIX 2 years ago
I did not say the founding fathers were abolitionists, nor do I intend to suggest that anymore than say 5% of the country was in the early years. But this admission does recognise a need to change.
And, incidentally, many, many contemporary source describe the failure of profit. Ultimately, I believe they are hiding their morals by saying that it is not a profitable institution but the southern belief that free labour was cheaper is incontrovertible.
mogwai4000 2 years ago
The problem is that the North wouldn't allow it. the radical abolitionists pushed slavery into a time when it should not have still existed. Read Lysander Spooner a massachusetts non radical abolitionist. He explains it. I have a whole video dedicated to him.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
The abolitionists wouldn't allow it. Read Lee and Davis what the leaders behind the abolitionists radical theories wanted was war and they got it. The south was the home of the majority of anti slavery organizations. It was anti-slavery. The Radical Abolitionists wouldn't allow it to end peacably and said horrendous atrocious untrue things about the treatment of the slaves. Things which are taught as fact now. They put the south in a defensive position.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
"The logical source (that's Africa)"?
The "logical source" had been ended in the early year of the 19th century with the end of the slave trade. Slavery was still legal but importing them was not.
mogwai4000 2 years ago
The slave trade was still active until the 13th amendment. The last slave ship the nightingale was picked up in 1865 it was commissioned in Maine with a New York captain.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
Something to consider... The war was not initiated over slavery. Initially, slavery was only of concern to the South, since they feared with a Northerner as President for the first time, that they would use it to further the Northern agenda. Lincoln wanted to stop the spread of slavery to the west, not abolish it. The reason he and Congress went to war was because secession was seen as rebellion. And the South destroyed all chance of diplomacy when they attacked Fort Sumter.
regionboy13 2 years ago
How do sir, I am personally a fan of what you said about Uncle Tom's Cabin, very few people know of this - or the secret six. Ultimately I like the question posed in your description about rights. The word 'rights' to me has always been flawed as no group (not individuals) will consent to a loss of their own to willingly do the right thing. Rights are also mutually agreed upon, but only by the powerful groups in society. My argument is perhaps, those who giveth, must taketh away.
xbmfmx 2 years ago
actually rights are God-given gifts; and it is society's job to protect them....
XISouthernCrossIX 2 years ago
one quick question that came to mind as I was watching it this time Southern Cross , when did the slave trade actually end? We are told in school that it ended in the very early 19th century if I remember it right. But in your video it seems like it goes on until just about the start of the war.
Luigi84289 3 years ago
The U.S. Constitution protected it until 1809, and it wasn't declared outlaw(an act of piracy) until 1815. Slavery didn't end in the western hemisphere until 1883 with Paraguay ending slavery. Brazil, the largest slave holder in the western hemisphere ended slavery through emancipated compensation in 1881.
XISouthernCrossIX 3 years ago
ah thanks, very interesting facts. Didn't realize braziil had slaves for such a long time and that it wasn't outlawed here until 1815.
Luigi84289 3 years ago
Great video, nicely done.
JohnnyReb (North Carolina)
CNS2 3 years ago
You make quality videos,Smitty.You did make this video,right?
xxSilentMajorityxx 3 years ago
yes, I made it....I think I'm getting better at it...well I made fewer mistakes than usual.
XISouthernCrossIX 3 years ago
another great video. Itls sad how the war of northern aggression is primarily most misunderstood in the country it took place in.
Luigi84289 3 years ago
And don't neglect the fact William Wilberforce was a devout Christian. That gets lost on the dustbin of history. When Christianity has failed, it's not been agnostics or atheists coming to the rescue to cure society of Christianity's ills; it's been Christians reforming Christianity. Go tell that to the Nietzche crowd and see how far you get.
stansayer 3 years ago 2
Oh, imagine that. My mom's side of the family is from Illinois and Michigan and they had the same kind of view of the South too. In fact, they couldn't understand why my dad, who's been raised in Arkansas and Missouri all his life, was still upset about the Civil War.
stansayer 3 years ago 2
Hey man great video, Ive only heard like one other person ever mention the 'secret six" I like this vdeio because it shows that many of the abolitionists didnt give a damn about freeing the slaves, they just wanted to hurt the slave owners because of thier pre-concieved anti-Southern sentiments. Keep up the good work man! -Deo Vindice
also, was that the music from "for a few dollars more"? lol
circlecityrabbit2004 3 years ago
indeed, have you kept up with the theme yet?
XISouthernCrossIX 3 years ago
You mean the theme of your videos?
circlecityrabbit2004 3 years ago
well the whole spagetti western music...
XISouthernCrossIX 3 years ago
Well ive watched all those movies if thats what you mean, im a huge Clint Eastwood fan lol
circlecityrabbit2004 3 years ago
WOW, the secret six!
Here's a guy that knows his history; I havent heard ANYBODY talk about this aspect of "yankee racial morality" in a very long time. This whole story is fascinating as hell; nice job XISouthernCrossIX.
sparkywundermutt1 3 years ago