Youtube bandwidth throttling suggestion

[batfly]

How about you tell your isp to fuck off and get a real isp.

[snedie69er]

I know this is really olld but I want to make my rant.

Youtube now implement a very intelligent set of algorithms that calculate the average needed download speed of a video by taking into account its legnth and size.

The problem is, the guy who designed it forgot to take one thing into account....ISP's also limit youtube. The affect of this is videos that are left buffering repeatedly as the ISP's limmits intefere with the workings of the traffic shaping performerd by youtube.

[Fontgod]

@snedie69er , yeah its great that they have acted on the issue but not so great for the reason you mentioned. I had also heard similar reports of this as well. I wonder if they are working on a solution.

[snedie69er]

@Fontgod

The ideology behind youtube's video throttoling is perfect from their perspective, and was originally done to cut the over cost of their data centres, although they do try and sell it off as "Improving your experience and services".

One method I would trial is expanding the code of the algorithms to include latency, location (through IP), video demand (Views per day/hour/minute) and number of viewers watching. By inclduding these, the streaming process could be smoothed out.

[InfiniteBlaze93]

These greedy bastards are already doing this and now I'm getting pauses on a 20MB/s connection.

[mcbrite]

They are already doing this...

[Fontgod]

The suggestion I made is over a year old now, but I still am not aware that they are doing what I suggested unless its in a setting somewhere that Ive missed. For instance I just checked this video file again and it pre-cached the entire vid in about half the time it took to play it, Im only on a 1500 ADSL connection. Can you provide more evidence that the throttling is occuring now??

[BestFuckingChannel]

Wow nice dumb idea!

[Fontgod]

cant figure out if you are agreeing with me or disagreeing?

[BestFuckingChannel]

I'm disagreeing with you stupid nigger-loving fuck!

[Fontgod]

guessing you dont have a limited download cap on your connection then.

[BestFuckingChannel]

Nah, I don't. I have 100mb Fios unlimited. =D

[BestFuckingChannel]

And yall are getting owned with the Great Firewall which treats your adults like criminals. That sucks ass.

[Fontgod]

yep... although that hasnt come into service as yet so might not get passed. Im on 1.5mb with about a 50gb cap, which by aussie standards is a fairly large quota. They really need to do something here if we are ever to embrace streaming HD movies and such (the legal variety).

[BestFuckingChannel]

Hey man, I was just fuckin around earlier. I didn't know yall had such shitty caps. Hope it gets better. Some companies here are getting rid of the caps because everyone is switching to companies without caps so they're all doing it.

[Fontgod]

no worries mate, I'll cross you off my "people to kill" list now. ;)

I dont think you could have watched the entire video though otherwise you would have been more aware of the situation here in Australia and other parts of the world.

Cheers.

[tehparol]

You know what youtube should be?

Clear all those dumb videos with tags like "fjshkjdfhdfsh" and 1-second videos and videos that are USELESS.

Make youtube a normal place. Besides, Google, owner of Youtube, doesnt benefit from Youtube and Youtube costs 1 million $ a day.

[glasnt]

It would be good if youtube could, if allowed, gather information about a user's connection speeds by running a test download, then work off those results in order to deliver realtime video streaming without the added cache, in order to save bandwidth, and downloads for the user in the case of unfinished videos. Something for Google to consider perhaps.

[dohneboisdah]

If I were on a bandwidth limit I certainly would appreciate such a feature.

I guess it would save a lot of bandwidth for the youtube providers as well... probably some terabytes per month I would guess.

But luckily I don't have a bandwidth limit and so I tend to pause a video right when it starts playing and only start watching once it's been fully cached because nothing is more annoying than buffering right in the middle of a stream ;)

oh, btw. hi gravy :)

[Fontgod]

BTW... I just found the video playback qaulity setting in my Youtube preferences. Whilst this is good it doesnt address the issue Ive mentioned.