GOP Health Care Chart

[Jewwel]

perhaps.. the reason why they didn't want the chart used, is because it was literally designed to look like a disaster?

[wiskawind]

Just give the American people the same health care that you Congress and Senate members get, that WE, the American people pay for!

You dont have to make a NEW plan to cover the American people, just add them all to the SAME plan that YOU enjoy!

Or do YOU think YOU are better than the people that elect you, and pay your wages?

[cmu238]

It has nothing to do with being better. It has everything to do with maintaining the health of elected officials and other government employees who directly aid in the functioning of the government in order to ensure that the government has the manning to function.

I don't know about you, but I'd be pissed if my elected official had to miss work on the day a major bill was in circulation because he didn't have health care and just got too sick to get to work.

[wiskawind]

cmu,

Well, why can't the American people share in the same plan that they have?

That plan has worked for a very long time, and I dont hear any of the Congress and Senate members complaining about it! So it seems to me it is a BIG waste of MY tax dollars to piss away all this time about a new plan when they could just expand that plan to cover the rest of the American people!

BTW I have great insurance, so it isnt for myself that I argue this point!

[cmu238]

The plan used by employees such as Congress reps was never designed to be implemented on a large scale- Congressmen have to have health care that covers them on every corner of the globe because of nature of their job. That kind of coverage is VERY expensive and would be pissing away even more money to give people additional coverage that they frankly don't need.

[cmu238]

Don't get me wrong though- like you, I am SO COMPLETELY FOR health care. I would love to have every single American in need of health assistance to be able to get rushed to the hospital and get the attention they need.

But something like this needs to be implemented intelligently, and not just thrown under a single umbrella.

For example, I have Canadian friends who moved to the USA so they could PAY for health care, because our product (while more expensive) is vastly superior.

[cmu238]

I too have great health care, because I'm enlisted. Even so, aspects of my gov't paid plan suck because I don't get a choice in health provider.

Trust me, as a consumer of gov't run health my opinion is the best solution is one that involves the LEAST amount of gov't.

With as much as I love my country, my opinion is that dollar for dollar we're getting ripped off and I don't want another HUGE money program enacted until my gov't can prove that it can run as efficiently as it says it can.

[wiskawind]

cmu,

"people additional coverage that they frankly don't need."

How do you figure it would be additional coverage, when so many Americans have NO coverage at all?

Would an employer give his employees better health coverage than he has for his own family? No he wouldn't and these clowns work for the American people; WE pay for their plan, and the American people deserve to be part of the plan THEY pay for!

[cmu238]

What I was trying to say is that people need the "right" amount of coverage. There is such as thing as overkill when it comes to the tax payers dollar, I'm sure you'd agree.

But I don't buy your argument. Taxes exist to allow the government to run, and health care to officials is a component of running the government.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that point.

[cmu238]

But one thing I'm sure we see eye to eye on is that we need to lean up the government.

Like I said, I wish we actually could right now just BAM! Instant health care! But even the best health care in the world is going to collapse if we end up broke past the point of no return.

I'd say start small, personally. Free or subsidize basic services like clinics, birth, etc. Build up from there and hopefully displace/replace the mess that is medicaid/care/chips/etc.

[Jaimetud]

Fight'em Wally!