Indians lost the fight ,Ward old nazi scumbag.Go cry to the great spirit.lol don't like living in ''Fascist' America?-get the fuck out. Go boo hoo elsewhere tough guy,fake ass Indian.lol..Seig Heil ward Churchill.
@cbarsonfire Why? It was all a ruse. It lets the university and the United States off the hook for failing to allow and defend the right to free speech. Big deal Ward won 1 buck but he lost his career and reputation, and deservingly so in my opinion. This entire fiasco just proved that there really isn't ''free-speech'' in America without sufffering the consequences from the masters or elites who don't agree with you.
I thought he was fired for being found guilty of repeated, intentional academic misconduct, the University of Colorado Board of Regents voted 8-1 to fire him.
Churchill himself raised the free speech issue.
The guy is still a douchebag big mouth prick. He is often rude to anyone who questions him.
@cbarsonfire That justified the firing of Ward Churchill. It was only after he referred to the victims on 9-11 as ''little Eichman's that they pursued his firing. His writings and opinions have been around for ages and no action was taken. A lot of people have called for the firing of Ward Churchill for misrepresenting himself as an Indigenous person for years and no action was taken. Why? Because he brought recognition to Bolder U. I agree Ward is a douchebag. The real issue is freedom ofspeech
It amuses me how insulted and angry water carriers get when confronted by a polite and well spoken militant like Ward Churchill who refuses to fall into their traps. Face it water carriers, he's 10 times smarter than you and a better American. And he won't back down.
Churchill should die of cancer, slowly. And with him all the liberals who cheeres him, or defended his right to speech after what he said in the aftermath of 9/11. Deport liberals to Guantanamo!
Churchill is 100% white. He pretends to be part Indian to give himself a cheap fake pulpit to squeeze guilt from stupid rich white people who enjoy feeling guilty for what others did to others 200 years ago.
That hasn't been proven. Nobody took DNA tests of him, so how can YOU know? Just because wikipedia tells you that 2 news stations (probably far right)investigated his background and found no traces of native ethnicity doesn't make it so. 2 news stations' opinion isn't conclusive. I personally, don't even give a crap what nativity he has. As long as he fights for the right reasons, i'm 100% behind him. From the second 9/11 is questioned, they try to burn the guy alive. Free speech is a fantasy.
No DNA tests that he won't allow and spews "fascist" accusations if you ask? I wonder why. Fuck wikipedia. That was a solid geneological study. He fights for getting to squeeze guilt from people and looking good on the bones of people who (unlike him) are MY ancestors.
Also, how does people freely expressing their disagreement with him in a rude way for something he was freely allowed to say mean that free speech is a myth? That's almost as stupid as claiming there exists a right to prevent other people from celebrating something I don't like (like Columbus day).
Its sometimes better to let the duped root in their own cesspool of ignorance, for it is in vain to argue with stubborn nationalists who have already made up their mind, before even looking at the facts. As the old saying goes: Some people will never learn.
can you visually identify a persons race by their appearance? i believe you can. he doesn't look european, white, middle eastern, asian, spanish. he looks like an untanned indian.
He looks like that because he dresses and grooms himself according to indian stereotype. His geneology has been mapped by multiple people and a single indian has yet to be found. Googling "pirateballerina Ward Churchill" will turn up a couple sources. I'd have no problem with the guy if he'd let his ideas stand on their own merit instead of pretending to be a minority to gain instant guilt-based credibility.
Two independent genealogy studies failed to find an Indian ancestor for a guy who used to use 'we' when talking about Indians before people twigged that he was faking it. I actually agree with the guy on some points, but I can't stand him because he uses the blood of my ancestors to give himself a cheap, guilt-based pulpit. He gets away with it with most of the tribes because when you've been shat on as much as we have been, it's any port in a storm.
Independent genealogy studies? Conducted by whom? And how is he harming native peoples? By focusing on the guilt of the white power structure? The whole point of challenging his ancestry is to shift the discussion away from his valid points questioning the actions and validity of that power structure by attacking the messenger -- right out o the right wing playbook. Why are you then pretending to rep the native peoples when in fact you are backing their detractors with your comments?
This is the kind of nonsense that sets my teeth on edge when talking to people who otherwise would be my allies. Is it such a foreign concept to you that someone can say some correct things, yet be an asshole? Because Mr Churchill has assuredly accomplished both. I'm not going to tell you who did the studies. I'm going to make you do 5 seconds of research instead of spouting cliched rhetoric.
You are not going to tell me who did the studies cuz you have no clue. Someone somewhere put that out there, and you gladly accepted it as true as it fit your preconceived notion. You phoney
Yeah hold that thought bud, I have to head to work. Meanwhile spend some quality time reading the chart produced by one of those 'imaginary' genealogy studies:
Type "rockymountainnews churchill genealogy pdf" into Google and click th first link.
(I'm aware that you won't bother. I'm putting it up for others, and for the possible comedy of watching you denounce the hippie-central Denver newspaper that produced it as being 'right wing.')
...And you want to know how he's harmful? You can't improve a situation you don't understand, and Churchill's relentless pushing of the "honkies are a special new evil that has never existed and everything is all their fault" idiocy is another brick in the wall separating people from the truth - which is that whichever group is on top will act like oppressive jerks. Always have, always will. It's human nature, so painting the current top dogs as the boogeyman is not productive.
Odd, I could have sworn you just posted that Churchill says some correct things, but is "an asshole", presumably for some other reasons. Now you put words in his mouth that he has never said, and attack him for his worldview -- which you just stated was correct. That type of "consistency" is the hallmark of the right wing stooge
I'm going to break the prime internet rule of never arguing with a troll - with the intent of maybe educating other people who read this thread.
Churchill has said some correct things. Those things don't include his central thesis. Is this so hard to grasp?
He is an asshole for the reasons I've said repeatedly; he pretends to be a native for his own benefit and declares anyone who calls him on it to be a fascist (kind of like what you're doing).
Ward Churchill is not even Indian!! He's as white American as John Wayne!! Look up his profile contents on Wikipedia under "ethnic background" and they SITE the sources. The Rocky Mountain News and Denver Post both did serious genealogical investigations and found "no evidence of a single Indian ancestor" [of Churchill's].
I don't think that's Churchill's point. his point is that under the 9th Amendment, native people can enumerate their own rights - one right is to not be subjected to celebration of their subjugation. That the court of the white government chooses to rule differently doesn't make that right go away. They don't write reality just because they wear a robe and have a piece of paper that says they can.
i wasn't accusing any specific present day whites like you rolat. i was simply invoking some american history, and explaining why i see difference between peoples; the so called illusion of race...and does political and economic oppression really die with the oppressor? there such a thing a "class system" - and oppression is generally used to keep that in place.
no i just advocate the murder of that retard - and now you for thinking im a "liberal." and now i am advocating the murder of all people who can only think in terms of "conservative" and "liberal." how base, how simple your mind must be. why whould ward agree to do an interview with people he knows will try and sandbag him? maybe he's just tired of debating white people who will never understand his perspective.
i guess im just a "reverse racist" for believing the pale skinned are culturally and spiritually different from the dark skinned people. the men with the pale hue of skin have lied to the men with the reddish brown hue for a very long time - their treatment of red hued people has caused me to see the distinction between them. Yes, we're all One - but while living in time and history we do see clear differences. but then, you would rather we just forget our whole history.
of course you would belive that White People are a social construction and do not exist. Especially when hearing about white priviledge scares you. You deny how white supremacy gives you the structural power to deny how you benefit from racial capital, while maintaining a status quo and subordination of others. Tyical, white dude in denial
Indians lost the fight ,Ward old nazi scumbag.Go cry to the great spirit.lol don't like living in ''Fascist' America?-get the fuck out. Go boo hoo elsewhere tough guy,fake ass Indian.lol..Seig Heil ward Churchill.
Bronxloyalist 3 months ago
The guy is so full of himself. Too bad that he won his lawsuit against the university.
cbarsonfire 1 year ago 2
@cbarsonfire Why? It was all a ruse. It lets the university and the United States off the hook for failing to allow and defend the right to free speech. Big deal Ward won 1 buck but he lost his career and reputation, and deservingly so in my opinion. This entire fiasco just proved that there really isn't ''free-speech'' in America without sufffering the consequences from the masters or elites who don't agree with you.
wovokanarchy 1 year ago
@wovokanarchy
Gee wiz jimbob!
I thought he was fired for being found guilty of repeated, intentional academic misconduct, the University of Colorado Board of Regents voted 8-1 to fire him.
Churchill himself raised the free speech issue.
The guy is still a douchebag big mouth prick. He is often rude to anyone who questions him.
cbarsonfire 1 year ago
@cbarsonfire That justified the firing of Ward Churchill. It was only after he referred to the victims on 9-11 as ''little Eichman's that they pursued his firing. His writings and opinions have been around for ages and no action was taken. A lot of people have called for the firing of Ward Churchill for misrepresenting himself as an Indigenous person for years and no action was taken. Why? Because he brought recognition to Bolder U. I agree Ward is a douchebag. The real issue is freedom ofspeech
wovokanarchy 1 year ago
Plain and simple. Growing your hair long and parting it down the middle while wearing a vest and AIM tshirt don't make you Indian.
Dragging1Canoe 1 year ago 2
It amuses me how insulted and angry water carriers get when confronted by a polite and well spoken militant like Ward Churchill who refuses to fall into their traps. Face it water carriers, he's 10 times smarter than you and a better American. And he won't back down.
Mrch33ky 1 year ago 2
He is not a lier. He speaks the truth and states facts.
Tiknuttle 2 years ago
@Tiknuttle
AND ELMER FUDD IS A REAL HUNTER....SUSH I HUNTIN WRABBIT.
Churchill is a far left liar...plain and simple.
cbarsonfire 1 year ago
Churchill is a loud mouth, arrogant prick UNTIL someone challenges him to a debate! Then he refuses.
The only people this idiot can debate with are his brainwashed students who'd dare not disagree with him for fear of a bad grade.
flyboymd82 3 years ago 2
he doesn't have any students because they fired his lying ass lol.
frostjackMP 3 years ago 2
Churchill should die of cancer, slowly. And with him all the liberals who cheeres him, or defended his right to speech after what he said in the aftermath of 9/11. Deport liberals to Guantanamo!
gabrielemillo 3 years ago 2
What is it about the right wing that they cannot advance pass the emotional age of two?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
Churchill is 100% white. He pretends to be part Indian to give himself a cheap fake pulpit to squeeze guilt from stupid rich white people who enjoy feeling guilty for what others did to others 200 years ago.
Zheff73 4 years ago
That hasn't been proven. Nobody took DNA tests of him, so how can YOU know? Just because wikipedia tells you that 2 news stations (probably far right)investigated his background and found no traces of native ethnicity doesn't make it so. 2 news stations' opinion isn't conclusive. I personally, don't even give a crap what nativity he has. As long as he fights for the right reasons, i'm 100% behind him. From the second 9/11 is questioned, they try to burn the guy alive. Free speech is a fantasy.
obliviouspet 4 years ago
No DNA tests that he won't allow and spews "fascist" accusations if you ask? I wonder why. Fuck wikipedia. That was a solid geneological study. He fights for getting to squeeze guilt from people and looking good on the bones of people who (unlike him) are MY ancestors.
Zheff73 4 years ago
Also, how does people freely expressing their disagreement with him in a rude way for something he was freely allowed to say mean that free speech is a myth? That's almost as stupid as claiming there exists a right to prevent other people from celebrating something I don't like (like Columbus day).
Zheff73 4 years ago
Well put. Yet no point in arguing with those who have been duped by the powers that be.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
Its sometimes better to let the duped root in their own cesspool of ignorance, for it is in vain to argue with stubborn nationalists who have already made up their mind, before even looking at the facts. As the old saying goes: Some people will never learn.
obliviouspet 3 years ago
can you visually identify a persons race by their appearance? i believe you can. he doesn't look european, white, middle eastern, asian, spanish. he looks like an untanned indian.
defaultuser11434 3 years ago
He looks like that because he dresses and grooms himself according to indian stereotype. His geneology has been mapped by multiple people and a single indian has yet to be found. Googling "pirateballerina Ward Churchill" will turn up a couple sources. I'd have no problem with the guy if he'd let his ideas stand on their own merit instead of pretending to be a minority to gain instant guilt-based credibility.
Zheff73 3 years ago
And you know this how?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
Two independent genealogy studies failed to find an Indian ancestor for a guy who used to use 'we' when talking about Indians before people twigged that he was faking it. I actually agree with the guy on some points, but I can't stand him because he uses the blood of my ancestors to give himself a cheap, guilt-based pulpit. He gets away with it with most of the tribes because when you've been shat on as much as we have been, it's any port in a storm.
Zheff73 3 years ago
Independent genealogy studies? Conducted by whom? And how is he harming native peoples? By focusing on the guilt of the white power structure? The whole point of challenging his ancestry is to shift the discussion away from his valid points questioning the actions and validity of that power structure by attacking the messenger -- right out o the right wing playbook. Why are you then pretending to rep the native peoples when in fact you are backing their detractors with your comments?
oldjoe5 3 years ago
This is the kind of nonsense that sets my teeth on edge when talking to people who otherwise would be my allies. Is it such a foreign concept to you that someone can say some correct things, yet be an asshole? Because Mr Churchill has assuredly accomplished both. I'm not going to tell you who did the studies. I'm going to make you do 5 seconds of research instead of spouting cliched rhetoric.
Zheff73 3 years ago
You are not going to tell me who did the studies cuz you have no clue. Someone somewhere put that out there, and you gladly accepted it as true as it fit your preconceived notion. You phoney
oldjoe5 3 years ago
OK, I get it - you're just trolling. Congratulations, you scored a rise out of me.
Zheff73 3 years ago
I guess that is your admission that you are full of bull.
oldjoe5 3 years ago
Yeah hold that thought bud, I have to head to work. Meanwhile spend some quality time reading the chart produced by one of those 'imaginary' genealogy studies:
Type "rockymountainnews churchill genealogy pdf" into Google and click th first link.
(I'm aware that you won't bother. I'm putting it up for others, and for the possible comedy of watching you denounce the hippie-central Denver newspaper that produced it as being 'right wing.')
Zheff73 3 years ago
...And you want to know how he's harmful? You can't improve a situation you don't understand, and Churchill's relentless pushing of the "honkies are a special new evil that has never existed and everything is all their fault" idiocy is another brick in the wall separating people from the truth - which is that whichever group is on top will act like oppressive jerks. Always have, always will. It's human nature, so painting the current top dogs as the boogeyman is not productive.
Zheff73 3 years ago 2
Odd, I could have sworn you just posted that Churchill says some correct things, but is "an asshole", presumably for some other reasons. Now you put words in his mouth that he has never said, and attack him for his worldview -- which you just stated was correct. That type of "consistency" is the hallmark of the right wing stooge
oldjoe5 3 years ago
I'm going to break the prime internet rule of never arguing with a troll - with the intent of maybe educating other people who read this thread.
Churchill has said some correct things. Those things don't include his central thesis. Is this so hard to grasp?
He is an asshole for the reasons I've said repeatedly; he pretends to be a native for his own benefit and declares anyone who calls him on it to be a fascist (kind of like what you're doing).
Zheff73 3 years ago 4
calling someone a troll is just a lame excuse... I find most people who call someone a troll are one.... goof
veryshortname 2 years ago
Ward Churchill is not even Indian!! He's as white American as John Wayne!! Look up his profile contents on Wikipedia under "ethnic background" and they SITE the sources. The Rocky Mountain News and Denver Post both did serious genealogical investigations and found "no evidence of a single Indian ancestor" [of Churchill's].
cremefresche 4 years ago
I don't think that's Churchill's point. his point is that under the 9th Amendment, native people can enumerate their own rights - one right is to not be subjected to celebration of their subjugation. That the court of the white government chooses to rule differently doesn't make that right go away. They don't write reality just because they wear a robe and have a piece of paper that says they can.
Qaliara 4 years ago
He has the right to except and invitation or not. So what is the big deal?
momishells 4 years ago
He's a jibberjabberinjabberin'jibbin'crackerjackin'PhD'n fakin' suckin'freon Hippie troll hobbit peon
KarlNemetski 4 years ago
sounds like you are too...
momishells 4 years ago
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Don't quit your day job
oldjoe5 4 years ago
@oldjoe5
haha, this is his day job.
pacodibolo 1 year ago
i wasn't accusing any specific present day whites like you rolat. i was simply invoking some american history, and explaining why i see difference between peoples; the so called illusion of race...and does political and economic oppression really die with the oppressor? there such a thing a "class system" - and oppression is generally used to keep that in place.
iggypot 4 years ago
Boulder Colorado has a history of guru/gasbags.Look at Chogyam Trungpa,Naropa Institute.
dantown1 4 years ago
Anyone who supports this d-bag (especially anyone who fawns over him like these morons) is a d-bag themselves.
NoGuff 4 years ago
this guy is cool
Ward Churchill 08
jamil316 4 years ago
Typical response from someone called "jamil"...
rdangelo 4 years ago
typical lib...coward
Redheadedstepchild 4 years ago
how is this refusing "free speech debate"? He doesn't want to debate full stop. That's anyone's right.
HansMenz 4 years ago
...because he (Churchill) is a pussy.
rdangelo 4 years ago
ward has big hands
deliciousmorton 4 years ago
ward should shoot that guy in the face
iggypot 4 years ago
So you advocate murder of conservatives, huh, iggypot? How typical of liberal hatemongers...
rdangelo 4 years ago
no i just advocate the murder of that retard - and now you for thinking im a "liberal." and now i am advocating the murder of all people who can only think in terms of "conservative" and "liberal." how base, how simple your mind must be. why whould ward agree to do an interview with people he knows will try and sandbag him? maybe he's just tired of debating white people who will never understand his perspective.
iggypot 4 years ago
Hate to tell ya there's NO such thing as WHITE PEOPLE
Maxoil 4 years ago
i guess im just a "reverse racist" for believing the pale skinned are culturally and spiritually different from the dark skinned people. the men with the pale hue of skin have lied to the men with the reddish brown hue for a very long time - their treatment of red hued people has caused me to see the distinction between them. Yes, we're all One - but while living in time and history we do see clear differences. but then, you would rather we just forget our whole history.
iggypot 4 years ago
of course you would belive that White People are a social construction and do not exist. Especially when hearing about white priviledge scares you. You deny how white supremacy gives you the structural power to deny how you benefit from racial capital, while maintaining a status quo and subordination of others. Tyical, white dude in denial
skindog323 4 years ago
i hate this cocksucker...
foozin34 5 years ago
Sorry to unmask your fallen hero.
grantast 5 years ago
@grantast You are a stalker . I am glad he refuses to debate idiots !
nauiocelotl 9 months ago
Hah, you're pathetic, grantast.
neroadam 5 years ago