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Accepted the view, held by the Majority, named Is that NASA sent astronauts to the Moon and returned to Earth Them Safely - as reported by the space agency, as seen on TV and in the Apollo photos. )
I studied, was trained and worked in Navel Nuclear Power in the mid it late 80' and we were told that a 100 rad single/one time dosage, was 100% lethal, with no chance of recovery or survival.
Schaefer, HJ, EV Benton, RP Henke, and JJ Sullivan. “Nuclear Track Recordings of the Astronauts’ Radiation Exposure on the First Lunar Landing Mission Apollo XI.” Radiation Research 49, no. 2 (1972): 245–271.
"A mission dose of 201 mrads corresponding to 402 mrems was found."
This is 2.01 millisieverts, about 3 times less then a Chest CT scan (X-Ray).
@Diamonddavej "Orientation of the plane of orbit to the geomagnetic equator was extremely favorable on both passages, resulting in very peripheral crossings of the inner belt." - Schaefer et al.
Apollo 11 only briefly skimmed the edge of the inner Van Allen Belt.
@MegaChristaras "...the astronauts would have been turned to dust from the radiation and heat"
Yes, unless they carefully took a path where the radiation wasn't as strong. That's the Apollo crews did; they approached the edge of the belt and passed through where the radiation isn't as strong. The radiation isn't the same strength everywhere.
@Rob260259 Van Allen radiation belt , its the video's title smartass . nothing can go thru them and get out alive , only if it goes thru the poles , and as u clearly remember the apollo missions didnt took off from the poles now go have some tea and then some sleep
So you have no source for your theory. You are one of these self absorbed 'twoofers' that says "fake" or "impossible" just because he doesn't understand it.
The VARBs are a torus of energetic charged particles circling Earth around its magnetic equator and held in place by Earth's magnetic field. The VARBs are split into two distinct belts, with energetic electrons forming the outer belt and a combination of protons and electrons forming the inner belt.
All Apollo translunar trajectory were inclined, allowing the craft to rise rapidly above the equatorial plane as it headed away from Earth. Since Apollo 11's equatorial latitude and radial distance from Earth are known, you can calculate the spacecraft's horizontal and vertical distances from Earth relative to the geographic equator and axis of rotation.
Do you understand anything of what I'm writing...?
"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense."
@kathyqz "I don't see real proof that the van allen belts are lethal."
The belt can be lethal because of the radiation, but that radiation isn't the same strength everywhere in the belt. If you approach the belt closer to its edge and pass through, then it's OK.
You won't get anything like an answer,, just some useless derogatory comments, let's prove that . They filmed on earth and in space trying to blend the two, thereby creating a perpetual argument, and the laser refracted back from the moon? You don't have to be on the surface to put things on the moon, I don't care in the end, let's move forward
@superrmrcool To me it was a complete lie and if you research and use good judgement and not some conspiracy theorist, skeptics like me or NASA Trolls Dictating your studies, you will find it conclusive. I really did believed that we went to the moon. I met Buzz Aldrin when I was about 9 or 10 and I wanted to be just like him. Now to me, he is a clown and the moon landings were more about politics and not science. I truly believe it is possible to go to the moon, but 1969 I don't believe...
Yes, we did land on the Moon. Six lunar landings are a solid fact. Taught in every academic institution around the world. The Moon rocks and six foot intact core tube samples have been studied around the world and verified to be non-terrestrial. The massive amount of scientific data returned has spawned hundreds of peer reviewed studies and is still studied today. Impossible to fake that amount of evidence for so long. It is the most documented achievement ever.
@Rob260259 Humans went to the moon to get these rocks then? Is that what you are stating here? Humans from Earth have walked on the Moon and collected rocks?
@Rob260259 The evidence is not even there, just bullshit, story telling books and news reports. Over 50 years on and we still have no pictures of the surface in detail, or that Yank flag the left there. Honestly open those eyes and your mind.
@BatmansArse Of course theres no pictures. Becuase you can't see radiation.Its like saying theres no proof of air existing becuase there is no pictures of air.
@BatmansArse How about the soil and rock samples brought back? The ones which have been looked at and given to many independent laboratories and none of them seem to have a problem with them coming from the moon.
@BatmansArse They fund themselves, it depends on what they're doing. I don't think you're grasping that they're independent. If you really think NASA is pretending to give samples to its own labs and falsifying analyses, and getting away with it in peer reviews you really know nothing about science. I also think if they weren't really having them analysed they wouldn't have lost so many samples from labs not giving them back.
@Rob260259 Humans went to the moon to get these rocks then? Is that what you are stating here? Humans from Earth have walked on the Moon and collected rocks?
@Rob260259 Humans went to the moon to get these rocks then? Is that what you are stating here? Humans from Earth have walked on the Moon and collected rocks?
I have an MIT post doctorate cousin who works at NASA idiot and he and his friends that work at NASA do not believe US ever went to the moon. If you even investigate the fake moon landing for 2 hours, if you have any brains, you will come to the same conclusion. You know more than NASA scientists like my cousin, you are a complete idiot.
the Van Allen Radiation Belts is made out of charge particles, which you can easily shield against, not to mention that they went on a trajectory that exposed them to minimal.
no, its the truth, something you can find out for yourself in 30 minutes. not only did the fly through a trajectory that exposed the craft to less radiation, but since the belt is made of charge particles, the best way to shield against it is aluminum, which the hull of the craft was made of. and it had several layers of mylar or honeycomb,etc. even dr. ames van Allen stated that the levels of radiation weren't enough to hurt the astronauts when on the way to the moon, pal!
continuing: the total exposure the apollo astronauts were exposed to was about that of a ful x-ray. further more, you need about 200 to 1000 Rad's to kill someone. not to mention that radiation DOSE NOT kill you instantly. it takes as much as weeks even for absurdly large doses, over 1000 rems. it dose not fry you like in an oven. i suggest you get better information on radiation if you want to be taken serious.
You are full of conceit and ignorance. The Moon landings were real and reality. It's always easy to say "fake" because you don't understand physics, aeronautics, aerospace, dynamics, radiology, astronomy, thermodynamics, chemistry, electronics or astrophysics.
@NeoArawak "Yep, Thus is lethal to go through 25,000 miles of it."
The radiation isn't the same strength across the whole belt. The Apollo astronauts followed a path where they passed through the belt's edge, where the exposure is low.
Right; Radiation damage is cumulative. That is, sit in it for long periods and you will get sicker and sicker until you die. Two weeks out there is acceptable. Months or years out there is not, and in addition, the longer you spend out there the greater your chance of getting caught in a major solar particle event, which will increase your radiation dose vastly.
The VAB can be deadly. If astronauts stay there long enough, for weeks. Apollo passed through in 90 mins.
This "van allen" stuff is amateur stupidity. I AM a radiological technician. And everything in here is incorrect stupidity.
The VABs capture particle radiation, like alpha and beta radiation. Alpha and Beta are blockable by PLASTIC. Thats rudimentary radiation safety you learn the first day.
@SpreadingtheMuse What do you mean "Where's the oil?" It's coming in, like always. Don't you drive? Your question stumps ME because it doesn't make any sense. Just what would you expect, or are you asking to see exactly? Some oil?
@JohnClaypool I mean where is the goddamn iraqi oil? Can you point to a single tanker that gets it here? Can you point to a pipeline thats siphoning it off? How can you say we're "stealing" oil if you cant point to even a drop of oil thats been stolen?
Its easy evidence for you to provide: hidden camera footage of a top secret american Oil refinery thats not supposed to exist, piping oil away to concealed tankers. MINIMAL evidence of a crime, any crime. You cant just make one up.
The Soviet Zond missions, notably #5 allegedly made it through the VAB en route to lunar orbit and back with it's biological payload intact. Anyone who doubts the Apollo made it to the moon can you please let me know what is your explanation of that.thanks!
I don't mankind is smart enough to go to the moon but mankind does a good job bullshitting. I have a goooood theory let us tie a daisy flower to the end of an elaphants tail and throw the elaphant off a cliff and see if the daisy can hold the elaphant? In theory is can work right? Well that is how I view today's scientist !! Most of today's scientist come from HOLLEY WOULD!! all of there theories are on film and fancy paper. We have never been to the moooooon and chances are we won't SPOCK OUT
And on what basis is the opinion of another hoax peddling dork like you worth anything? I DO believe we're smart enough, but unlike you, I have pages of science text to back me up.
If we have been to the moon like everybody claims we have then why is the moon NOT a hot vacation resort.
Think about it a car built in 1969 compared to a car built in 2011, a computer in 1969 to the I-PAD in 2011 , a polaroid camera in 1969 to the highest megapixel digital camera we have today and I can go on and on. Yes sir or ma'am a trip to the moon would be like a doctor doing organ transplants ( ROUTINE ) YES PROBES have been to the MOON but no FLESH and BLOOD. EASY MONEY!!!!!...=-)
Is "vacation resort" a technical term? LOL WTF kind of dufus question are you asking? Nevermind a moon shot costs half a trillion dollars. Where the hell is private business PROFIT for a half trillion dollar trip? Who the hell could afford to go? So you saw a moonbase on Star Trek and thought "cool?" What the hell kind of logical thought is that?
Not asking a question dummy just stating a fact and here we go again with private business. Well if people like you who LOVE BIG GOVERNMENT SO MUCH would allow competition instead of monopolizing , regulating every thing we do. Maybe just maybe prices will fall and everybody can afford to go to jupiter, sing zippity do da through our assholes and have a jolly old time. Check yourself out of college,stop being an indentured servant by going into debt for the system.
I HATE BIG GOVERNMENT. WTF are you rambling about? You just spout out dork talking points without the slightest idea if they're relevant? WTF kind of adult debate is that?
Now no stalling and answer the easy question: WHERE'S THE OIL? Do you see it coming here in big tankers? Cause point them out right here and right now.
@Jacko643 Pay attention. I said you CAN'T be that STUPID! CAN YOU? What you would be is ignorant, as you have admitted to being so in this comment of yours. It's okay though. Ignorance can be overcome with study, and research! So, maybe you could give that a shot. Maybe learn some new insults..Prick is overused, ineffective, and not awfully creative. Try a more subtle approach. Like dick weed, or fuck face. Those are much more acceptable by the board of trolls!
@Jacko643 You can't be that stupid. If you have looked at space weather without your pride goggles on, you can only come to the same conclusion. Either TEST PILOTS are equivalent to SUPERMEN, who are impervious to DEADLY RADIATION from the many deadly sources in space, from our sun, to exploding stars, as well as IRRADIATED lunar surface, that NASA admits to in their RADIOACTIVE MOON ARTICLE! Google it...
For people who keeps saying it's a lie...25000/240000 miles is about 10% of the distance, and no, the van allen belt is not an orbiting death star laser waiting to obliterate humans, the lunar module got to the moon in about 72 hours and 240000 miles and if you do the math, the lunar module is traveling about 3400 mph and so it would have passed the belt in about 7.5 hours * 2 coming back which is about 15 hours spent in belt and the astros in Shuttle days, so I think they're fine
Except that the Van Allen belts are made of Alpha and Beta Particles both of which can be blocked relatively easily. Sure there are some gamma particles there, but they aren't abundant.
@thatguyontheright1 but they are expensive too... it is possible, but for a mission that last only half a day being spent on the belt, it really doesn't matter. The most thing we know about the belt is that the radiation only gets pretty bad if the lunar module stayed up there for like a year. but for half a day, it's not even worth mentioning radiation as a possible threat compared to so many other things that can go wrong...e.g Apollo 13
@receiver69, Run and hide? From what, receiver? I don't need proof of hoaxes or deceptions. I'm man enough, and mature enough to admit to fact and fiction. I understand fully what I read. If not and I want know I'll pursue it personally through study. From that I get my conclusions. Simple. Believe me, I love my country, USA, and have tried like the dickens to believe the Apollo flight rationale but I can't based on inconclusive post-flight development, or non-development.
@receiver69, I'll call it quits with you on the subject. If you believe that the camera film was unaffected by solar radiation,( Hasselblad claimed the camera's did not have any type of protective shielding on the supposed Apollo missions), than all other debate should cease. The main topic was space radiation which is still a problem for NASA and manned deep space flight survival. Signing off. G'day.
@receiver69, Painstakingly investigated, 100% proof? Even NASA won't, in fact can't, make that claim. The generation that worked the Apollo program is quickly fading out and the current younger administration is left with the job of answering, unsuccessfully, the American public's questions. You've posted impressive info but none that I can call true Apollo post- flight information. Reports on the supposed flights are all the same, just worded differently. Again, where's the hard flight data?
@receiver69, Honestly, I've skimmed a few, but haven't taken the time to peruse them. Most information of space radiation, if not all, is not published using the precedent and factual data of the supposed Apollo space flights. They're written as if the flights never happened and also with a great deal of confidence in predicting SPE's and GCR emission's, which is impossible and potentially lethal. The info and suggestions for shielding in the paper is interesting though.
@receiver69, I've read the paper and I'm still wondering why there isn't any comparison of actual Apollo flight radiation data with the paper's redundant display of inconclusive graphs and educated guesses. That isn't aimed at you. I feel if the Apollo program flights to the moon happened and were successful, than mankind by now should have had more scientific fact and technology to deal with space radiation problems and human survivability. Actual flight data would be interesting.
@receiver69, Thanks for the info on the paper. It was written in 2006 and is an estimate of what space radiation might do to a human being. The last sentence in the first paragraph ended with this- Nevertheless, radiation effects and the effectiveness of shielding remain uncertain. The paper is admittedly inconclusive and caused me to ask- Where is the scientific data from the supposed Apollo moon missions? The paper is written not in hindsight but without any hard scientific flight data.
@receiver69 , jomogogo is right because he believes the gov. and NASA? Like you? A little bit of objective study will help you decide and make up your own mind. I say this in peace, not to offend.
@year111 u damn fuckin country can't print its own fuckin money. your fuckin dollar is printed by Federal Reserve owned Bank of England. u and your whole nation is the nation of bastards. u don't know even your fathers names. thats why u put mothers name. your fuckin country is sucking cocks of Rotshchild owners of Bank of England.
@year111 Nations built on religion,race & language, not on fuckin countries. Keep your fuckin country to yourself. I don't believe in countries. I only believe in universal peace & brotherhood ruled by the "Just Order of God". Not by the rule of man. U want to fuck my country. Go on fuck it. I don't care. BTW all countries are under direct "Financial Rule" of FreeMasons, Illuminati. Even your fuckin country. Haven't u read "Protocols of Zion" & "International Jew"?
Could this radiation form part of a process that we see and feel as the flow of Arrow of Time?
This theory is based on just two simple postulates,
1.The first is that the quantum wave particle function explained by Schrödinger’s wave equation represents the forward passage of time or Arrow of Time itself photon by photon, quanta by quanta.
2. The second is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle that is formed by the wave function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event.
NO ONE ....let me repeat....NO ONE!!!!!!! can travel through 25 thousand miles of pure radiation in a thin aluminum rocket and live. If a rocket went to the moon...then the drivers all died VERY early on. Remember your bible.....the firnmaments above and the firmaments below. These two belts are how god protects planets from solar flare-ups.
Funny how hoax believers acknowledge that Van Allen discovered the belts, but ignore him when he says that passing through them would have been lethal.
"He never experience them. Is funny how people trust a word over the experience."
- I know some people who DID experience the VARBs. And I trust their words about that experience. Funny how hoax nuts acknowledge the research of Van Allen, use his findings for a hoax belief system and do not believe him stating the safe pass of Apollo.
@Rob260259 DUDE im not talking about 2011- 2012 now of course its possible , but in 1969 it was compeltly impossible , the camera would have required a 5 metres thick block of steel to be protected from the radiation .wake up there are thousands of inconsistences
Thank you for your confirmation that you don't have a clue. You obviously have NO knowledge and NO relevant education. You are probably just trying to be a big shot 'truthseeker', don't you?
About the shielding; in various scientific (non Nasa) papers a recommendation of 3 g/cm^2 is mentioned, while the Apollo 11 was rated 7-8 g/cm^2, ergo, better shielding, thus lower dosage. Have you got any clue about the type of shielding needed?
@Rob260259 ok since you want to believe the lies the usa goverment says its not my fault , but , by posting 1 -1,5 pages of comments trying to convince about a lie makes you look silly to say the least
Try to refute the massive amount of scientific data returned that has spawned hundreds of peer reviewed scientific studies. Try to prove that all documents concerning Apollo are fraudulent.
So, as I stated earlier, you are just saying "fake" because you don't understand anything about it. You lose.
Why did you block me Christos? Why do you delete comments on your channel? What is the matter? Are my comments a little inconvenient for you? An inconvenient truth perhaps?
@Rob260259 look dude , i dont care if your holland or angola or germany or whatever . i deleted the comments cause thats what i ALWAYS do i read them and i delete them . your comments are not inconvenient at all , i have heard lots of stuff your comments will not really bother me that much and since your truth is '' we went to the moon '' which is what i do NOT believe why would i think that it is inconvenient????? it makes no sense AND the radiation dose is lethal check your sources
@Rob260259 u know what dude? what about taking that money yeah that money and put it right in your ass , then tell me how it feels cause u know what?? even a 2 months old Greek baby is smarter than your silly ass who doesnt even know what the words LEAVE ME ALONE mean
@Rob260259 Such a degrading comment about Greeks man, just because you are in an argument. It is a common strategy to result in petty characterizations in order to outsmart your interlocutor.....Your English btw is far from being correct, and i don't see you writing anything in Greek so i can comment on your inefficiency. As for the video it's interesting, nothing more than that........trol lol lol lol lol lol lol
@Rob260259 I am the troll here, haven't you noticed? I don't really care about the radiation belts, but i do care when i see biting comments about my country......too bad because i like the Dutch (expect for this occasion)....oh well...now i am going to troll off......
Aha. Fine. Just like I do care about people harassing Apollo astronauts or slandering dedicated workers on that program, making these people liars or frauds.
- I've seen one here; the VABs are interesting, and much abused by hoax nuts. Almost none of the claims against Apollo require a lot of technical or scientific knowledge to debunk. Some hoax nuts like to use the VABs as a means of promoting their beliefs because you do need to have some sophisticated knowledge to really evaluate the claim that they would have been lethal to astronauts.
So hoax nuts make their bogus claims about them very often.
HJ Schaefer, EV Benton, RP Henke, JJ Sullivan. “Nuclear Track Recordings of the Astronauts’ Radiation Exposure on the First Lunar Landing Mission Apollo XI.” Radiation Research 49, no. 2 (1972): 245–271.
"A mission dose of 201 mrads corresponding to 402 mrems was found."
For your information; that is 2.01 millisieverts, about 3 times less then a chest X-Ray.
"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense."
@LunarTuner Van Allen said that passing through them couldn't be lethal, because the Apollo crew flew to the moon... thus is has become a circular argument: the belts aren't lethal because Apollo got through; and Apollo got through because the belts aren't lethal.
@shanehoustein, you're just pointing out that Van Allen and his employers, NASA, agree with each other. Now, if you believe that the VABs exist at all, what other scientific agency on earth that has studied the VABs disagrees with either Van Allen or NASA?
@LunarTuner Noone disagrees. The van Allen bands are not lethal. What we should worry about are the solar flares that can hit the Earth (rare, but possible).
@beinsured, this is a great video for people with no scientific education and who assume Mary Benett and David Percy know more than the physicists who DISCOVERED the VABs. Benett is absolutely wrong when she says every orbiting spacecraft goes under the VABs, In fact, the ISS in orbit right now passes through the South Atlantic Anomaly several times a day for 15 min. a time and no one fries. Apollo passed through the northern fringe of the inner VAB for less than 2 hours. watch?v=z4gSRy1tHls
@TheJomogogo some youtube kids, could come up with something better, if they have access to the same knowledge, profit-monkeys ($laves) and natural resources ;)
"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen
@billy918237, In 1959 Van Allen attended a conference in Moscow trying to find answers to the problems of cosmic radiation, namely the Van Allen belts. No solution was found and sometime later Van Allen quoted," We need a person in a responsible political position to have the courage to say- terminate all manned spaceflight." The Russians and Van Allen knew then how dangerous and fatal deep space flight could be. I believe Van Allen was persuaded to "re-evaluate" his position on the matter.
@smimot Funny that the belt's discoverer, Dr. James Van Allen, stated that it would be no problem for Apollo to make it through. In fact, the path to the moon only took them through the outer edge of it. Remember, the earth is tilted at 23.5 degrees to the ecliptic and the moon's orbit abother 5 degrees to that, so to travel directly to the moon puts its path just skirting the upper part of the radiation belt, and for only an hour or so.
plus the radiation is cumulative so actually one strait
@billy918237 so right man...I feel so bad for people who are conservatives cuz FOX portrayed them as idiots...and frankly not all conservatives are stupid...But because of idiots such as fox for their unfair and biased reporting, they now fuel more generation of idiots and ignoramus all over US and perhaps the world...it's just utter insanity.
People use these Van Allen belts as proof that the moon landings were faked, utter garbage, just because they are there does not mean they didn't go through them.
@MsUoykcuf -- You don't receive a "high dose of radiation" by going around the edge of the Van Allen belt for less than an hour in a space ship that is shielded by aluminum and plastic.
(No ... lead is not the right substance for shielding. Plastic is good. Water is actually better.)
Those American HEROS who went to the moon and back, received high dose of radiations TWICE, never died or got cancers and still living a such long old age, LOL, what a LIE, fooled the human race, except the scientists who all giggling for decades.
Actually a lot of them got cataracts among other radiation associated illnesses. And you get radiation from EVERYTHING. Everytime you fly you get radiation. Any time you get an image done you get radiation, but somehow THAT isn't expected to make you a mass of cancerous growths....
@TheJomogogo some say less then 90 others say more the 4 hours who is saying you know the right time NASA is not going to tell you any thing other then what they want you to think.
and they have the money and controle to fill every one full of lies i think every one needs to keep there minds open for all agruements. but need to see that just because the goverment or just because NASA said it doesnt make it true
@h95718 Or atleast not as juvenile as we are right now. Thinking the universe is just made of gas rocks radiation and random happenings. This planet is alive and so is everything in the universe. You may know this already if you came to the conclusion you just stated.
I won't comment on whether or notn I think the U.S. sent a manned mission to the moon.. but I was thinking creating a dynamo core inside a spaceship would be a good way to protect a ship from radiation, the same way the Earth protects us from radiation right now.
I won't comment on whether or notn I think the U.S. sent a manned mission to the moon.. but I was thinking creating a dynamo core inside a spaceship would be a good way to protect a ship from radiation, the same way the Earth protects us from radiation right now.
The Van Allen belts were traversed 18 times between 1968 & 1972 counting the trips out and back on the Apollo lunar missions. The Van Allen Belts are no "barrier". they are charged particels. A satellite shielded by 3 mm of aluminium in an elliptic orbit passing through the radiation belts will receive about 2,500 rem (25 Sv) per year. The astronauts received on average less than 1 rem (10 mSv), which is equivalent to the ambient radiation received by living at sea level for three years.
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ettoremazza7 1 month ago
I studied, was trained and worked in Navel Nuclear Power in the mid it late 80' and we were told that a 100 rad single/one time dosage, was 100% lethal, with no chance of recovery or survival.
fediv06 1 month ago
um this is bullshit
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@Astrophysicsist "I'd love to know how we'll get past these when we get to Mars."
Same as last time: just go through the edge of the belt again where the radiation isn't too strong.
cadmus98 2 months ago
Schaefer, HJ, EV Benton, RP Henke, and JJ Sullivan. “Nuclear Track Recordings of the Astronauts’ Radiation Exposure on the First Lunar Landing Mission Apollo XI.” Radiation Research 49, no. 2 (1972): 245–271.
"A mission dose of 201 mrads corresponding to 402 mrems was found."
This is 2.01 millisieverts, about 3 times less then a Chest CT scan (X-Ray).
Diamonddavej 2 months ago
@Diamonddavej "Orientation of the plane of orbit to the geomagnetic equator was extremely favorable on both passages, resulting in very peripheral crossings of the inner belt." - Schaefer et al.
Apollo 11 only briefly skimmed the edge of the inner Van Allen Belt.
Diamonddavej 2 months ago
THIS THIS this is whjy we never went to the moon ... the astronauts would have been turned to dust from the radiation and heat
MegaChristaras 2 months ago
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@MegaChristaras "...the astronauts would have been turned to dust from the radiation and heat"
Yes, unless they carefully took a path where the radiation wasn't as strong. That's the Apollo crews did; they approached the edge of the belt and passed through where the radiation isn't as strong. The radiation isn't the same strength everywhere.
cadmus98 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
"the astronauts would have been turned to dust from the radiation and heat"
- LOL
Do you have any source for this theory? Try to find one (1) ounce of evidence that the moon landings were faked.
Rob260259 2 months ago
@Rob260259 Van Allen radiation belt , its the video's title smartass . nothing can go thru them and get out alive , only if it goes thru the poles , and as u clearly remember the apollo missions didnt took off from the poles now go have some tea and then some sleep
MegaChristaras 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
So you have no source for your theory. You are one of these self absorbed 'twoofers' that says "fake" or "impossible" just because he doesn't understand it.
The VARBs are a torus of energetic charged particles circling Earth around its magnetic equator and held in place by Earth's magnetic field. The VARBs are split into two distinct belts, with energetic electrons forming the outer belt and a combination of protons and electrons forming the inner belt.
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Rob260259 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
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All Apollo translunar trajectory were inclined, allowing the craft to rise rapidly above the equatorial plane as it headed away from Earth. Since Apollo 11's equatorial latitude and radial distance from Earth are known, you can calculate the spacecraft's horizontal and vertical distances from Earth relative to the geographic equator and axis of rotation.
Do you understand anything of what I'm writing...?
Rob260259 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
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May be you'll understand this:
"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense."
-- Dr. James Van Allen
Rob260259 2 months ago
I don't see real proof that the van allen belts are lethal. Certainly not because of this video. Where's the proof?
kathyqz 2 months ago
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@kathyqz "I don't see real proof that the van allen belts are lethal."
The belt can be lethal because of the radiation, but that radiation isn't the same strength everywhere in the belt. If you approach the belt closer to its edge and pass through, then it's OK.
cadmus98 2 months ago
EARTH IS A FUCKING QUARANTINE!
BAGreat01 3 months ago
You won't get anything like an answer,, just some useless derogatory comments, let's prove that . They filmed on earth and in space trying to blend the two, thereby creating a perpetual argument, and the laser refracted back from the moon? You don't have to be on the surface to put things on the moon, I don't care in the end, let's move forward
MrDeamon1 3 months ago
so then the whole Apollo thing was a lie ? i don't get it some one kindly explain to me please did they go to the moon or not ?
superrmrcool 3 months ago
@superrmrcool To me it was a complete lie and if you research and use good judgement and not some conspiracy theorist, skeptics like me or NASA Trolls Dictating your studies, you will find it conclusive. I really did believed that we went to the moon. I met Buzz Aldrin when I was about 9 or 10 and I wanted to be just like him. Now to me, he is a clown and the moon landings were more about politics and not science. I truly believe it is possible to go to the moon, but 1969 I don't believe...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@superrmrcool
Yes, we did land on the Moon. Six lunar landings are a solid fact. Taught in every academic institution around the world. The Moon rocks and six foot intact core tube samples have been studied around the world and verified to be non-terrestrial. The massive amount of scientific data returned has spawned hundreds of peer reviewed studies and is still studied today. Impossible to fake that amount of evidence for so long. It is the most documented achievement ever.
Rob260259 2 months ago
@Rob260259 Humans went to the moon to get these rocks then? Is that what you are stating here? Humans from Earth have walked on the Moon and collected rocks?
BatmansArse 1 month ago
@BatmansArse
Yes, humans went to the Moon. The evidence of that event has been in the public domain for decades.
Rob260259 1 month ago
@Rob260259 The evidence is not even there, just bullshit, story telling books and news reports. Over 50 years on and we still have no pictures of the surface in detail, or that Yank flag the left there. Honestly open those eyes and your mind.
BatmansArse 1 month ago
@BatmansArse
Aah. You're one of these self absorbed fools thinking he can outsmart *real* credentialed people and scientists.
Or may be you're just passing by, saying "I don't understand it, so it must be fake".
Sad, really.
Rob260259 1 month ago
@BatmansArse Of course theres no pictures. Becuase you can't see radiation.Its like saying theres no proof of air existing becuase there is no pictures of air.
coolcars34563 3 weeks ago
@BatmansArse How about the soil and rock samples brought back? The ones which have been looked at and given to many independent laboratories and none of them seem to have a problem with them coming from the moon.
jbdtaylor 2 weeks ago
@jbdtaylor Who do they work for? You get it yet?
BatmansArse 2 weeks ago
@BatmansArse I said independent laboratories, which means that they're separate from anything else. They work for themselves.
jbdtaylor 2 weeks ago
@jbdtaylor Who funds them?
BatmansArse 2 weeks ago
@BatmansArse They fund themselves, it depends on what they're doing. I don't think you're grasping that they're independent. If you really think NASA is pretending to give samples to its own labs and falsifying analyses, and getting away with it in peer reviews you really know nothing about science. I also think if they weren't really having them analysed they wouldn't have lost so many samples from labs not giving them back.
jbdtaylor 2 weeks ago
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@Rob260259 Humans went to the moon to get these rocks then? Is that what you are stating here? Humans from Earth have walked on the Moon and collected rocks?
BatmansArse 1 month ago
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@Rob260259 Humans went to the moon to get these rocks then? Is that what you are stating here? Humans from Earth have walked on the Moon and collected rocks?
BatmansArse 1 month ago
I have spend 200 hours investigating the fake moon landing. you are a complete idiot who has not done his home work. shut the fuck up moron.
Worldcomingtoend 4 months ago
@Worldcomingtoend
Wow you researched and say it's fake I guess that settles it then
Blahblobify 3 months ago
@Worldcomingtoend
You spent 200 hours reading OTHER people's claims that it was all a hoax and didn't bother questioning their facts that's real good thinking Plato.
Blahblobify 3 months ago
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stop your rubbish bull shit. you know nothing about the fake moon landing. shut the fuck up and stop spreading lies, moron.
Worldcomingtoend 4 months ago
I have an MIT post doctorate cousin who works at NASA idiot and he and his friends that work at NASA do not believe US ever went to the moon. If you even investigate the fake moon landing for 2 hours, if you have any brains, you will come to the same conclusion. You know more than NASA scientists like my cousin, you are a complete idiot.
Worldcomingtoend 4 months ago
@Worldcomingtoend Awesome reply...
GUARDIANtrooper 3 months ago
@GUARDIANtrooper Better to get your car repaired by a butcher, those mechanics are in cahoots with car companies!
Diamonddavej 2 months ago
You must remain within the Van Allen radiation belts 1-3 months before you become seriously ill.
HyperAlienReality 4 months ago
At lowest, according to Russian radiation health officer E.E. Kovalev, the radiation belts are 312.5rad/hr. 500rad is the lethal dose for humans
un4g1v3n1 4 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 : Yep, Thus is lethal to go through 25,000 miles of it. tx
NeoArawak 4 months ago
@NeoArawak Exactly! Thank you for being one of the TRUE seekers of space truth! It's refreshing to know many are waking up to NASA's lies!
un4g1v3n1 4 months ago
the Van Allen Radiation Belts is made out of charge particles, which you can easily shield against, not to mention that they went on a trajectory that exposed them to minimal.
Ryagful 4 months ago
@Ryagful you are full of shit
Worldcomingtoend 4 months ago
no, its the truth, something you can find out for yourself in 30 minutes. not only did the fly through a trajectory that exposed the craft to less radiation, but since the belt is made of charge particles, the best way to shield against it is aluminum, which the hull of the craft was made of. and it had several layers of mylar or honeycomb,etc. even dr. ames van Allen stated that the levels of radiation weren't enough to hurt the astronauts when on the way to the moon, pal!
Ryagful 4 months ago 2
continuing: the total exposure the apollo astronauts were exposed to was about that of a ful x-ray. further more, you need about 200 to 1000 Rad's to kill someone. not to mention that radiation DOSE NOT kill you instantly. it takes as much as weeks even for absurdly large doses, over 1000 rems. it dose not fry you like in an oven. i suggest you get better information on radiation if you want to be taken serious.
Ryagful 4 months ago
@Worldcomingtoend
You are full of conceit and ignorance. The Moon landings were real and reality. It's always easy to say "fake" because you don't understand physics, aeronautics, aerospace, dynamics, radiology, astronomy, thermodynamics, chemistry, electronics or astrophysics.
Rob260259 2 months ago
@NeoArawak "Yep, Thus is lethal to go through 25,000 miles of it."
The radiation isn't the same strength across the whole belt. The Apollo astronauts followed a path where they passed through the belt's edge, where the exposure is low.
cadmus98 2 months ago
@cadmus98
Right; Radiation damage is cumulative. That is, sit in it for long periods and you will get sicker and sicker until you die. Two weeks out there is acceptable. Months or years out there is not, and in addition, the longer you spend out there the greater your chance of getting caught in a major solar particle event, which will increase your radiation dose vastly.
The VAB can be deadly. If astronauts stay there long enough, for weeks. Apollo passed through in 90 mins.
Rob260259 2 months ago
Money Talks, if i were James Van Allen i would also accept hundreds of millions of dollars from NASA to say the radiation is not lethal...
Fake the moon landings all you want, just give me the fucking MONEY
FLOYDNOBALLS118 5 months ago
this van allen stuff explained clearly why the US can not land in the moon no more after the first landing.
mayaforpeaceful 6 months ago
@mayaforpeaceful
This "van allen" stuff is amateur stupidity. I AM a radiological technician. And everything in here is incorrect stupidity.
The VABs capture particle radiation, like alpha and beta radiation. Alpha and Beta are blockable by PLASTIC. Thats rudimentary radiation safety you learn the first day.
SpreadingtheMuse 6 months ago
@SpreadingtheMuse. A muse at best. So the Russians couldn't but the US could. Awesome.!!!!
ammobank 6 months ago
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@SpreadingtheMuse. A muse at best. So the Russians couldn't but the US could. Awesome.!!!!
ammobank 6 months ago
it meant our technology is still in the stone age.
no wonder the west can only invade other small country for oil as the roman empire did :)
mayaforpeaceful 6 months ago
@mayaforpeaceful
Which country did the Romans invade for oil? LOL
And if we did, here's an easy question that stumps the propagandists like you everytime: WHERE'S THE OIL?
SpreadingtheMuse 6 months ago
@SpreadingtheMuse What do you mean "Where's the oil?" It's coming in, like always. Don't you drive? Your question stumps ME because it doesn't make any sense. Just what would you expect, or are you asking to see exactly? Some oil?
JohnClaypool 5 months ago
@JohnClaypool I mean where is the goddamn iraqi oil? Can you point to a single tanker that gets it here? Can you point to a pipeline thats siphoning it off? How can you say we're "stealing" oil if you cant point to even a drop of oil thats been stolen?
Its easy evidence for you to provide: hidden camera footage of a top secret american Oil refinery thats not supposed to exist, piping oil away to concealed tankers. MINIMAL evidence of a crime, any crime. You cant just make one up.
SpreadingtheMuse 5 months ago
we going to make shields that can withstand any type of radiation shielding , technology is improving constantly
CryptWarrior69 6 months ago
The Soviet Zond missions, notably #5 allegedly made it through the VAB en route to lunar orbit and back with it's biological payload intact. Anyone who doubts the Apollo made it to the moon can you please let me know what is your explanation of that.thanks!
rnsone 7 months ago
I don't mankind is smart enough to go to the moon but mankind does a good job bullshitting. I have a goooood theory let us tie a daisy flower to the end of an elaphants tail and throw the elaphant off a cliff and see if the daisy can hold the elaphant? In theory is can work right? Well that is how I view today's scientist !! Most of today's scientist come from HOLLEY WOULD!! all of there theories are on film and fancy paper. We have never been to the moooooon and chances are we won't SPOCK OUT
lewis121701 7 months ago
@lewis121701
And on what basis is the opinion of another hoax peddling dork like you worth anything? I DO believe we're smart enough, but unlike you, I have pages of science text to back me up.
SpreadingtheMuse 6 months ago
Well then show it to us we have nothing but time
lewis121701 6 months ago
@lewis121701
Physical proof of moonlanding:
1) Moonrocks on display in dozens of FOREIGN museums, out of NASA's control
2) Pics taken by foreign satellites of the equipment left behind
3) Laser Reflectors left by the astronauts, still used by any observatory in the world today
4) Radar returns of the capsule going there and back taken by Russia, who would have raked us over the coals had they caught a fake
And then, 40 years, and not ONE whistleblower, not one country calling "FAKE!"
Easy
SpreadingtheMuse 6 months ago
If we have been to the moon like everybody claims we have then why is the moon NOT a hot vacation resort.
Think about it a car built in 1969 compared to a car built in 2011, a computer in 1969 to the I-PAD in 2011 , a polaroid camera in 1969 to the highest megapixel digital camera we have today and I can go on and on. Yes sir or ma'am a trip to the moon would be like a doctor doing organ transplants ( ROUTINE ) YES PROBES have been to the MOON but no FLESH and BLOOD. EASY MONEY!!!!!...=-)
lewis121701 6 months ago
@lewis121701
Is "vacation resort" a technical term? LOL WTF kind of dufus question are you asking? Nevermind a moon shot costs half a trillion dollars. Where the hell is private business PROFIT for a half trillion dollar trip? Who the hell could afford to go? So you saw a moonbase on Star Trek and thought "cool?" What the hell kind of logical thought is that?
SpreadingtheMuse 6 months ago
Not asking a question dummy just stating a fact and here we go again with private business. Well if people like you who LOVE BIG GOVERNMENT SO MUCH would allow competition instead of monopolizing , regulating every thing we do. Maybe just maybe prices will fall and everybody can afford to go to jupiter, sing zippity do da through our assholes and have a jolly old time. Check yourself out of college,stop being an indentured servant by going into debt for the system.
lewis121701 6 months ago
@lewis121701
I HATE BIG GOVERNMENT. WTF are you rambling about? You just spout out dork talking points without the slightest idea if they're relevant? WTF kind of adult debate is that?
Now no stalling and answer the easy question: WHERE'S THE OIL? Do you see it coming here in big tankers? Cause point them out right here and right now.
SpreadingtheMuse 6 months ago
@Jacko643 Pay attention. I said you CAN'T be that STUPID! CAN YOU? What you would be is ignorant, as you have admitted to being so in this comment of yours. It's okay though. Ignorance can be overcome with study, and research! So, maybe you could give that a shot. Maybe learn some new insults..Prick is overused, ineffective, and not awfully creative. Try a more subtle approach. Like dick weed, or fuck face. Those are much more acceptable by the board of trolls!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@Jacko643 You can't be that stupid. If you have looked at space weather without your pride goggles on, you can only come to the same conclusion. Either TEST PILOTS are equivalent to SUPERMEN, who are impervious to DEADLY RADIATION from the many deadly sources in space, from our sun, to exploding stars, as well as IRRADIATED lunar surface, that NASA admits to in their RADIOACTIVE MOON ARTICLE! Google it...
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
@Jacko643 It's called a big ass rip off!
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
killer electrons
look out pac man
Openmindness 7 months ago
For people who keeps saying it's a lie...25000/240000 miles is about 10% of the distance, and no, the van allen belt is not an orbiting death star laser waiting to obliterate humans, the lunar module got to the moon in about 72 hours and 240000 miles and if you do the math, the lunar module is traveling about 3400 mph and so it would have passed the belt in about 7.5 hours * 2 coming back which is about 15 hours spent in belt and the astros in Shuttle days, so I think they're fine
tydougandrene 7 months ago
This video starts with a lie.
Gemini 10 and 11 entered the Van Allen Belts (albeit briefly) before Apollo.
edmfw 7 months ago
Except that the Van Allen belts are made of Alpha and Beta Particles both of which can be blocked relatively easily. Sure there are some gamma particles there, but they aren't abundant.
thatguyontheright1 8 months ago
@thatguyontheright1 but they are expensive too... it is possible, but for a mission that last only half a day being spent on the belt, it really doesn't matter. The most thing we know about the belt is that the radiation only gets pretty bad if the lunar module stayed up there for like a year. but for half a day, it's not even worth mentioning radiation as a possible threat compared to so many other things that can go wrong...e.g Apollo 13
tydougandrene 7 months ago
@receiver69, Run and hide? From what, receiver? I don't need proof of hoaxes or deceptions. I'm man enough, and mature enough to admit to fact and fiction. I understand fully what I read. If not and I want know I'll pursue it personally through study. From that I get my conclusions. Simple. Believe me, I love my country, USA, and have tried like the dickens to believe the Apollo flight rationale but I can't based on inconclusive post-flight development, or non-development.
smimot 8 months ago
@receiver69, I'll call it quits with you on the subject. If you believe that the camera film was unaffected by solar radiation,( Hasselblad claimed the camera's did not have any type of protective shielding on the supposed Apollo missions), than all other debate should cease. The main topic was space radiation which is still a problem for NASA and manned deep space flight survival. Signing off. G'day.
smimot 8 months ago
@receiver69,
smimot 8 months ago
@receiver69, Painstakingly investigated, 100% proof? Even NASA won't, in fact can't, make that claim. The generation that worked the Apollo program is quickly fading out and the current younger administration is left with the job of answering, unsuccessfully, the American public's questions. You've posted impressive info but none that I can call true Apollo post- flight information. Reports on the supposed flights are all the same, just worded differently. Again, where's the hard flight data?
smimot 8 months ago
@receiver69, Honestly, I've skimmed a few, but haven't taken the time to peruse them. Most information of space radiation, if not all, is not published using the precedent and factual data of the supposed Apollo space flights. They're written as if the flights never happened and also with a great deal of confidence in predicting SPE's and GCR emission's, which is impossible and potentially lethal. The info and suggestions for shielding in the paper is interesting though.
smimot 8 months ago
@receiver69, I've read the paper and I'm still wondering why there isn't any comparison of actual Apollo flight radiation data with the paper's redundant display of inconclusive graphs and educated guesses. That isn't aimed at you. I feel if the Apollo program flights to the moon happened and were successful, than mankind by now should have had more scientific fact and technology to deal with space radiation problems and human survivability. Actual flight data would be interesting.
smimot 8 months ago
@receiver69, Thanks for the info on the paper. It was written in 2006 and is an estimate of what space radiation might do to a human being. The last sentence in the first paragraph ended with this- Nevertheless, radiation effects and the effectiveness of shielding remain uncertain. The paper is admittedly inconclusive and caused me to ask- Where is the scientific data from the supposed Apollo moon missions? The paper is written not in hindsight but without any hard scientific flight data.
smimot 8 months ago
@receiver69 , jomogogo is right because he believes the gov. and NASA? Like you? A little bit of objective study will help you decide and make up your own mind. I say this in peace, not to offend.
smimot 8 months ago
@year111 u damn fuckin country can't print its own fuckin money. your fuckin dollar is printed by Federal Reserve owned Bank of England. u and your whole nation is the nation of bastards. u don't know even your fathers names. thats why u put mothers name. your fuckin country is sucking cocks of Rotshchild owners of Bank of England.
xmen269 9 months ago
@year111 Nations built on religion,race & language, not on fuckin countries. Keep your fuckin country to yourself. I don't believe in countries. I only believe in universal peace & brotherhood ruled by the "Just Order of God". Not by the rule of man. U want to fuck my country. Go on fuck it. I don't care. BTW all countries are under direct "Financial Rule" of FreeMasons, Illuminati. Even your fuckin country. Haven't u read "Protocols of Zion" & "International Jew"?
xmen269 9 months ago
America the great nation of fuckin LIARS. Moon landings are HOAX. U cant pass this VAN ALLEN Radiation belt.
xmen269 9 months ago
@xmen269 Then why is it your country continues to suck their cock for foreign aid and money yearly. Don't bite the hand that feeds ya.
year111 9 months ago
Could this radiation form part of a process that we see and feel as the flow of Arrow of Time?
This theory is based on just two simple postulates,
1.The first is that the quantum wave particle function explained by Schrödinger’s wave equation represents the forward passage of time or Arrow of Time itself photon by photon, quanta by quanta.
2. The second is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle that is formed by the wave function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event.
nickharvey7 9 months ago
NO ONE ....let me repeat....NO ONE!!!!!!! can travel through 25 thousand miles of pure radiation in a thin aluminum rocket and live. If a rocket went to the moon...then the drivers all died VERY early on. Remember your bible.....the firnmaments above and the firmaments below. These two belts are how god protects planets from solar flare-ups.
enlill1 9 months ago
Funny how hoax believers acknowledge that Van Allen discovered the belts, but ignore him when he says that passing through them would have been lethal.
watch?v=z4gSRy1tHls
LunarTuner 9 months ago 5
@LunarTuner : He never experience them. Is funny how people trust a word over the experience.
NeoArawak 9 months ago
@NeoArawak
"He never experience them. Is funny how people trust a word over the experience."
- I know some people who DID experience the VARBs. And I trust their words about that experience. Funny how hoax nuts acknowledge the research of Van Allen, use his findings for a hoax belief system and do not believe him stating the safe pass of Apollo.
Now THAT is funny.
Rob260259 2 months ago
@Rob260259 DUDE im not talking about 2011- 2012 now of course its possible , but in 1969 it was compeltly impossible , the camera would have required a 5 metres thick block of steel to be protected from the radiation .wake up there are thousands of inconsistences
MegaChristaras 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
Thank you for your confirmation that you don't have a clue. You obviously have NO knowledge and NO relevant education. You are probably just trying to be a big shot 'truthseeker', don't you?
Have you seen the words of Van Allen himself?
Rob260259 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
About the shielding; in various scientific (non Nasa) papers a recommendation of 3 g/cm^2 is mentioned, while the Apollo 11 was rated 7-8 g/cm^2, ergo, better shielding, thus lower dosage. Have you got any clue about the type of shielding needed?
Rob260259 2 months ago
@Rob260259 ok since you want to believe the lies the usa goverment says its not my fault , but , by posting 1 -1,5 pages of comments trying to convince about a lie makes you look silly to say the least
MegaChristaras 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
"1 - 1,5 pages"
- LOL
Try to refute the massive amount of scientific data returned that has spawned hundreds of peer reviewed scientific studies. Try to prove that all documents concerning Apollo are fraudulent.
So, as I stated earlier, you are just saying "fake" because you don't understand anything about it. You lose.
Rob260259 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
Why did you block me Christos? Why do you delete comments on your channel? What is the matter? Are my comments a little inconvenient for you? An inconvenient truth perhaps?
Rob260259 2 months ago
@Rob260259 a stupid deutch thats all
MegaChristaras 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
"deutch"...?
Rob260259 2 months ago
@Rob260259 look dude , i dont care if your holland or angola or germany or whatever . i deleted the comments cause thats what i ALWAYS do i read them and i delete them . your comments are not inconvenient at all , i have heard lots of stuff your comments will not really bother me that much and since your truth is '' we went to the moon '' which is what i do NOT believe why would i think that it is inconvenient????? it makes no sense AND the radiation dose is lethal check your sources
MegaChristaras 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
You're even unable to write normal English. How to take you serious?
You're even unable to read English; I mentioned a lot of solid sources. Peer reviewed sources, originating from scientific papers.
You're unable to understand science & engineering, so what remains is your ignorance and conceit, resulting in saying "fake" or "it makes no sense".
Rob260259 2 months ago
@Rob260259 ok happy now?? what about you leave me alone already???
MegaChristaras 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
Happy? No... I'm very worried. I sincerely hope that a major part of the EU support for Greece goes to national education.
So unless you have any other bright words of wisdom, have a nice day.
Rob260259 2 months ago
@Rob260259 u know what dude? what about taking that money yeah that money and put it right in your ass , then tell me how it feels cause u know what?? even a 2 months old Greek baby is smarter than your silly ass who doesnt even know what the words LEAVE ME ALONE mean
MegaChristaras 2 months ago
@MegaChristaras
Fail again Christos. I wrote "bright words of wisdom".
And "Greek"..? No Hellas anymore..?
LOL
Rob260259 2 months ago
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Ellemphriem 1 month ago
@Rob260259 Such a degrading comment about Greeks man, just because you are in an argument. It is a common strategy to result in petty characterizations in order to outsmart your interlocutor.....Your English btw is far from being correct, and i don't see you writing anything in Greek so i can comment on your inefficiency. As for the video it's interesting, nothing more than that........trol lol lol lol lol lol lol
Ellemphriem 1 month ago
@Ellemphriem
"Your English btw is far from being correct"
- Ah. We have something in common.
Rob260259 1 month ago
@Rob260259 Of course honey, i never denied it as it is NOT my native....how about you? Is it your native?....if so then you win ;)
Ellemphriem 1 month ago
@Ellemphriem
No dear, I'm Dutch.
Forget the language.Try to say something about the Van Allen Radiation belts.
Rob260259 1 month ago
@Rob260259 I am the troll here, haven't you noticed? I don't really care about the radiation belts, but i do care when i see biting comments about my country......too bad because i like the Dutch (expect for this occasion)....oh well...now i am going to troll off......
Ellemphriem 1 month ago
@Ellemphriem
Aha. Fine. Just like I do care about people harassing Apollo astronauts or slandering dedicated workers on that program, making these people liars or frauds.
Rob260259 1 month ago
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@Ellemphriem
"common strategy"
- I've seen one here; the VABs are interesting, and much abused by hoax nuts. Almost none of the claims against Apollo require a lot of technical or scientific knowledge to debunk. Some hoax nuts like to use the VABs as a means of promoting their beliefs because you do need to have some sophisticated knowledge to really evaluate the claim that they would have been lethal to astronauts.
So hoax nuts make their bogus claims about them very often.
Rob260259 1 month ago
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Ellemphriem 1 month ago
HJ Schaefer, EV Benton, RP Henke, JJ Sullivan. “Nuclear Track Recordings of the Astronauts’ Radiation Exposure on the First Lunar Landing Mission Apollo XI.” Radiation Research 49, no. 2 (1972): 245–271.
"A mission dose of 201 mrads corresponding to 402 mrems was found."
For your information; that is 2.01 millisieverts, about 3 times less then a chest X-Ray.
Check your dentist. And check your facts.
Rob260259 2 months ago
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@LunarTuner
"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense."
-- Dr. James Van Allen
Rob260259 9 months ago
@LunarTuner Van Allen said that passing through them couldn't be lethal, because the Apollo crew flew to the moon... thus is has become a circular argument: the belts aren't lethal because Apollo got through; and Apollo got through because the belts aren't lethal.
shanehoustein 8 months ago
@shanehoustein, you're just pointing out that Van Allen and his employers, NASA, agree with each other. Now, if you believe that the VABs exist at all, what other scientific agency on earth that has studied the VABs disagrees with either Van Allen or NASA?
LunarTuner 8 months ago
@LunarTuner Noone disagrees. The van Allen bands are not lethal. What we should worry about are the solar flares that can hit the Earth (rare, but possible).
BjornPalmen 7 months ago
great video for people who can handle the truth.
beinsured 9 months ago
@beinsured, this is a great video for people with no scientific education and who assume Mary Benett and David Percy know more than the physicists who DISCOVERED the VABs. Benett is absolutely wrong when she says every orbiting spacecraft goes under the VABs, In fact, the ISS in orbit right now passes through the South Atlantic Anomaly several times a day for 15 min. a time and no one fries. Apollo passed through the northern fringe of the inner VAB for less than 2 hours. watch?v=z4gSRy1tHls
LunarTuner 9 months ago
The belts are called the van Allen belts, NOT the van Allen RADIATION belts.
So this video is WRONG already from the start.
BjornPalmen 10 months ago
@BjornPalmen Its like saying it's called the New York Knicks not the New York Knickerbockers. Both names are suitable.
ButterflyWars 10 months ago
@TheJomogogo : And you believers are so naive with your butt giving brain.
NeoArawak 10 months ago
@TheJomogogo some youtube kids, could come up with something better, if they have access to the same knowledge, profit-monkeys ($laves) and natural resources ;)
ReneFWJ 10 months ago
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Osama is NOT dead! It was all faked by the U.S. government!
I have a new vid in my channel that proves it! Check it quickly!
AndyHarglesis 10 months ago
"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen
billy918237 10 months ago 22
@billy918237, In 1959 Van Allen attended a conference in Moscow trying to find answers to the problems of cosmic radiation, namely the Van Allen belts. No solution was found and sometime later Van Allen quoted," We need a person in a responsible political position to have the courage to say- terminate all manned spaceflight." The Russians and Van Allen knew then how dangerous and fatal deep space flight could be. I believe Van Allen was persuaded to "re-evaluate" his position on the matter.
smimot 8 months ago
@smimot Funny that the belt's discoverer, Dr. James Van Allen, stated that it would be no problem for Apollo to make it through. In fact, the path to the moon only took them through the outer edge of it. Remember, the earth is tilted at 23.5 degrees to the ecliptic and the moon's orbit abother 5 degrees to that, so to travel directly to the moon puts its path just skirting the upper part of the radiation belt, and for only an hour or so.
plus the radiation is cumulative so actually one strait
billy918237 8 months ago 2
@billy918237
You're right.
Rob260259 6 months ago
@smimot ... continued
thru the worst of it would be safer then a lot of little low level doses
PS if you don't mind me asking how old are you people
billy918237 8 months ago
@billy918237 so right man...I feel so bad for people who are conservatives cuz FOX portrayed them as idiots...and frankly not all conservatives are stupid...But because of idiots such as fox for their unfair and biased reporting, they now fuel more generation of idiots and ignoramus all over US and perhaps the world...it's just utter insanity.
tydougandrene 7 months ago
@billy918237 Do you have a source, or just pasting JAY WINDLEY propaganda on the web for him?
un4g1v3n1 7 months ago
People use these Van Allen belts as proof that the moon landings were faked, utter garbage, just because they are there does not mean they didn't go through them.
AlltimeTrance 10 months ago
The pompous narrator didn't say how intense the VA belts are.
What is the electron volt values?
What are the flux ratios?
This woman has no idea what she's talking about, she knows how to bullshit and probably is selling a DVD or a book.
She needs to make me some pan-cakes.
Tweekerhead 10 months ago
NASA has so many super humans, please send some to Fukushima to save Japan!!!
MsUoykcuf 11 months ago
@MsUoykcuf -- You don't receive a "high dose of radiation" by going around the edge of the Van Allen belt for less than an hour in a space ship that is shielded by aluminum and plastic.
(No ... lead is not the right substance for shielding. Plastic is good. Water is actually better.)
nesokretep 11 months ago
Those American HEROS who went to the moon and back, received high dose of radiations TWICE, never died or got cancers and still living a such long old age, LOL, what a LIE, fooled the human race, except the scientists who all giggling for decades.
MsUoykcuf 11 months ago
@MsUoykcuf
Actually a lot of them got cataracts among other radiation associated illnesses. And you get radiation from EVERYTHING. Everytime you fly you get radiation. Any time you get an image done you get radiation, but somehow THAT isn't expected to make you a mass of cancerous growths....
rubaiyat300 11 months ago
@TheJomogogo some say less then 90 others say more the 4 hours who is saying you know the right time NASA is not going to tell you any thing other then what they want you to think.
and they have the money and controle to fill every one full of lies i think every one needs to keep there minds open for all agruements. but need to see that just because the goverment or just because NASA said it doesnt make it true
whiteoutspoint 11 months ago
those flashes of white in the eyes were also reported by the apollo crews
me001ist 1 year ago
@me001ist many many years later they where reported after we discovered that this was happening to other astronaunts in the 90's
josh71111 11 months ago
Yup...less than 1rem exposure, except for Apollo 14.
I guess 8cm² aluminum shielding is enough, in the real world that is.....
Hear the heads of hoaxers hitting their heads on the tables at which they sit?
Tweekerhead 1 year ago
so THIS MEANS U MUST BE AN ANGELIC BEING BEFORE ENTERING INTO DEEP SPACE!!...
h95718 1 year ago
@h95718 Or atleast not as juvenile as we are right now. Thinking the universe is just made of gas rocks radiation and random happenings. This planet is alive and so is everything in the universe. You may know this already if you came to the conclusion you just stated.
laprop 1 year ago
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OrgonVpH7 1 year ago
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MercerStreetRapist 1 year ago
see Earth's Force Field - Core Dynamo experiment
allthingsmmm 1 year ago
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I won't comment on whether or notn I think the U.S. sent a manned mission to the moon.. but I was thinking creating a dynamo core inside a spaceship would be a good way to protect a ship from radiation, the same way the Earth protects us from radiation right now.
see Earth's Force Field - Core Dynamo experiment
allthingsmmm 1 year ago
I won't comment on whether or notn I think the U.S. sent a manned mission to the moon.. but I was thinking creating a dynamo core inside a spaceship would be a good way to protect a ship from radiation, the same way the Earth protects us from radiation right now.
allthingsmmm 1 year ago
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The Van Allen belts were traversed 18 times between 1968 & 1972 counting the trips out and back on the Apollo lunar missions. The Van Allen Belts are no "barrier". they are charged particels. A satellite shielded by 3 mm of aluminium in an elliptic orbit passing through the radiation belts will receive about 2,500 rem (25 Sv) per year. The astronauts received on average less than 1 rem (10 mSv), which is equivalent to the ambient radiation received by living at sea level for three years.
Synthetrix 1 year ago
Here's a link to a 576 page Nasa Apollo Bio-Medical Summary report in which they state their findings and exposure levels the crews encountered.
Radiation report starts on page 106
hq.nasa.gov/alsj/NASA-SP-368.pdf
inotnad 1 year ago
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Jesus christ is king of kings and lord of lords
bass109 1 year ago
Escape velocity is very fast. The amount of time in the belt is low. The video should include the total tranfer time.
AugustusLarch 1 year ago
@AugustusLarch :LOL, 25,000 miles long is he belt.. But good excuse to keep believing a lie. lol
NeoArawak 1 year ago 6
@NeoArawak
How thick is the belt? Not the length which apparently the circumfence of the Earth in your mind.
In the depiction of the belts their are two layers. Is there any figures of dimension to explain their size.
I don't beleive anything. I consider, know, and disregard.
AugustusLarch 1 year ago
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@NeoArawak
":LOL, 25,000 miles long is he belt.. But good excuse to keep believing a lie. lol"
Even so, at the speed of the apollo rockets, thats not a long time, maybe a couple of hours.
also: "If the ill effects of the Van Allen Radiation Belt were felt 600 miles away from it,"
Thats a lie, the belt starts at 100km.
thomf2 1 year ago
@NeoArawak Length and width are two, very different things. ;)
KakaffStudios 11 months ago
@NeoArawak -- Even if your "25,000 miles long" was relevant (and it's not) ... how long would they stay in the belt?
Did you know that escape velocity is 25,000 miles per hour?
What trajectory did they really take?
Which part of the belts did they go through?
What is the particle concentration in that region?
How can those particles be shielded against?
Do you have ANY clue about any of this? (apparently not ... )
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BTW -- the "seeing stars" happened on Gemini.
nesokretep 11 months ago