The major Scientific Error in Quran is the Spliting of Moon. This Never Happend. This was an Arabic Poem. When the Author found Her poem in Quran she objected and Mohamed the Prophet of Grace Orderd Omar to Kill her and she was Killed. Vooow.
Surah An-Naziat (79:30) and after that He spread out the earth: He made it flat, for it had been created before the heaven, but without having been spread out;
Surah 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
Surah 96: 2 Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood
Muhammad is he married a girl who was only nine years old Aisha (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234).
Surah 4:34 A Husband if he wants can beat his wife
Although today, people lump them all together and say there are six legs, the Bible distinguished them here. The Bible referred to them in more detail than perhaps expected. Notice how the feet and legs are separated in the verses and referred to separately. The Bible is being very precise as to distinguish the front four from the back two. So, there is no contradiction at all:
The Bible in Leviticus 11:21 indicates that the hind jumping legs are not included in the four “walking” or “creeping” feet. The feet are the four front limbs used for walking and look the same. The back two limbs are primarily for long hops.
Christians trying to prove that their religion is true, but every day we discovers the scientific errors in the Bible >>>You all know the dragon is an imaginary animal, is mentioned in books, the legendary, but the Bible recognizes the existence of animal, the dragon, and this is the biggest Guide that the gospel words of a human
The key part of the verse is the phrase "above their feet jointed legs." The Hebrew uses two different words to describe the "feet" (regel) and "legs" (kera). What the verse says is that these insects walk on four "feet" (their anterior four short legs), with an additional two "legs" that are used for jumping. Therefore, all six appendages are describes
In the Gospel, birds have four legs Hahahahaha, we all know that there is no bird has four legs ، If it is intended to insects, no insects have four legs .....
Bible Word of priests, is impossible to be the Word of allah
And (remember) the Day We shall cause the mountains to pass away (like clouds of dust), and you will see the earth as a levelled plain, and we shall gather them all together so as to leave not one of them behind
@iloveyouislam1 Please read the part from the Koran, where how bee's make honey ! I was laughing so hard. Koran says in a mothers womb, bones are made first than muscles ? Doctors know that in a mothers womb, bones and muscles are formed in same time. Koran says Noah flood happened same time of Moses ? Please check the dates ?
Bible is not a science book, yet its scientifically accurate. To understand Bible you need a heavenly knowledge. You simply can't blabber whatever comes to your mouth.
LMAO DON'T BE STUPID. I'S CLEAR CUT CONTRADICTION. If i told you my sock at this moment is only blue and again i describe this moment saying my sock was red it's a clear contradiction. so may be in bizzaro world (your idea of heaven) 3 * 1= 1 and 1+1+1=3 but here on earth we follow logic not blind faith. The Quran is a book of scientific wonders. So look at you now desperately trying to believe what you have been taught all your life. It's not blabber. Read the bible see the contradictions.
Becoz only Bible is the true book and a historical book. Science might be wrong sometimes, becoz even scientists are human beings and they have a normal human brain... But history will be preserved untill this earth perish. There are many scientists who refered bible and accepted that it's accurate even scientifically. Darwin's evolution is totally wrong and there are no proofs for it. If science itself is not accurate how can you compare Bible with it.
because it's some theories in science that are very inaccurate...such as darwins...but the other theories like the planets and plants and animals apart from evolution, the other things are pretty much true..such as how babies form is accurate in science...and the quran states the exact same thing...and so many other scientific facts. bible however has some facts but also things that make it contradict itsself and quite few mistakes also.
@susik26 The bible is actually the total opposite of historical. Perhaps if you researched a little bit of history and compared it to the bible instead of just listening to what your fellow christians tell you, you will find this out.
By seeing these Zakhir Hussain's videos I understood onething. Muslims are very insecure about their religion. They don't have peace in their religion. Especially this man. That's why they always attack christians, Bible and Jesus. If they were so spriritual and confident about their God and religion why don't they just go on their way. Becoz they have doubts in their own religion, these guys always try to critisize christianity through stupid questions which has no meaning.
It is amazing that muslims with all that nonsense in their book called quran and all of the scientific and other errors in it claim that other books have errors.
People who live in a house of glass should not cast a stone.
Uh, I think I've found something to disproof the Bible: It's really fucking old. It was originally written in times where no one understood how anything worked, and it's been rewritten many, many times. There's also the fact that there have been and still are religions in the world completely seperate from Christianity.
...Oh, what am I saying? That's just silly! Ha ha! Me and my logic!
What a ridiculous straw man. This guy bases his clammations on english translation of the bible. I'm telling this to all of you: Don't rely on translations, study the languages if you want to proove the bible wrong. Now the only thing this guy prooved is his own ignorance. Gotta love the enthusiasm though!
This guy forgot to go further in the text where in Hebrews 1:12 where it is stated that "like a cloak you will fold them up, and they will be chnaged". changed is heaven and earth. Clearly what this means is that the earth will remain but will be changed which goes in a cordance in revelations where God will reign on earth in his kingdom. The word perish does not neccesaraly need to mean "to be destoyed" but just like referring to the past it doesnt mean destroyed but radically altered.
I've read the New Testament. Some parts are noble and I believe come from God and His holy Prophet 'Isa or Jesus. But other parts are corrupted by the hands of man and Shaytan once again commanding shirk (setting up partners with God). This is what he always commands and his ways haven't changed.
You are saying GOD DIED. How can you believe such a thing. Think about it long and hard and you will see this isn't true and is an absurdity.
Yes indeed I say that God died. Yahushua did indeed die on the cross. Where He willingly laid down His very own life for the sins of mankind.
But never forget, He rose again on the third, just as He had prophesied He would do.
And you think about, what is three days in the life of God? Is it a long time compared to Eternity?
In any case, if you understand how omnipresence works, you might be able to understand that it was only this One manifestation of God that died, and came back.
Muslims believe God is eternal, without end. Such a being cannot die.
Who was God while God was dead for 3 days??
3 days is a long time for the world to exist with God dead.
with your last statement you are getting into Hinduism.
Besides Jesus is either a manifestation or God Himself. I believe everything is a manifestation because God is the one who created everything. But that doesn't mean He IS the Creation.
"with your last statement you are getting into Hinduism. "
If so, then perhaps there is some truth in hinduism. However, I think not. It's more likely you misunderstood something I said.
"Besides Jesus is either a manifestation or God Himself."
Nope, Yahushua is God incarnate. God manifesting Himself in a human body. Yahushua is God! Yahushua is the One who created everything in the first place.
"He wasn't only in Yahushua, He was also everywhere else at the same time. For instance, He in heaven at the same time also."
that is what Hindus believe in a nutshell. I thought you agreed it was from Satan.
So is Jesus a manifestation or God. If he's a manifestation, he's not God and shouldn't be worshiped. If He was God then He wasn't a man and couldn't have died. That's the only thing that makes sense.
"Any revelation We annul or consign to oblivion, We replace with something better or similar. Do you not know that God has power over everything?"
He allowed them to be corrupted but not without replacing them with something better and similar. But the root of all Scripture is with God so the true Torah and Gospels still exist with Him.
the men and shaytan did not win because God sent the Qur'an.
I think the Qur'an is better than the Bible.
And I truly don't think it makes more sense believing the Qur'an is from shaytan. I think God as described in Qur'an makes much more sense and I don't think shaytan would send a Scripture commanding people to worship God and reject Satan. He's never done it before. Nor do I think God would allow Satan to do this without sending something new to clear things up.
We're never going to agree on this. I wanted to try to clear up your misconceptions of Islam and Muslims, but I don't think it helped. I would like to see Christians and Muslims get along and find things in common in their religions. It seems I remain among the minority in this.
This argument will go on forever. I never intended to start a huge debate. My only intent was better understanding between our faiths. I think I'll have to look elsewhere for that. But peace be upon you.
And I sincerely hope and pray you find the right way to God, whether it is Christianity or not. Know that Muslims believe in God and devote ourselves to Him. We believe Shaytan is evil. If you are right then Shaytan has mislead us as to the Nature of God, but it cannot be denied that we devote more time to God and follow His laws (I mean like in the Torah such as not eating pork) better than most. Maybe all this will be in vain in the end, but I truly don't think so.
If you are looking for something which makes sense and which you can understand immediately, you are not looking in the right place. No-one can understand everything about God.
Satan is not going to create a book which tells people to worship him. He is not that stupid you know.
And actually he has done it many times before; there are many other religions which say worship god(s).
But Satan disguises himself as gods to receive worship; because he is jealous of God's worship.
I believe God designed our reasoning capabilities. It wouldn't be fair for Him to make the only religion acceptable to Him one that doesn't make sense. That's trickery. It gives people a complaint and excuse against Him on Judgment Day.
Satan has never before created a religion that tells people to seek refuge with God from Satan the Rejected before reading its book. He has also never created a religion that tells people to worship only one God. Since the Qur'an tells of one Infinite God and Satan, you have to believe that the God of the Qur'an is in fact Satan and the Satan of the Qur'an is in fact God. Satan is not brave enough to pose as God Himself, he only misleads by whispering into people's hearts. He is a coward.
Typical of Muslims to underestimate the power of Satan. The Bible tells us he is powerful and cunning, you must beware of him. You cannot shove him under the carpet and pretend he is just a coward. Why do you think there are many religions? Why would God create them all? Satan is brave enough to pose as God himself, and he has done so many times in many religions.
There are many religions because God has sent many messengers to many peoples throughout history. They have all been corrupted by man (from the whisperings of Satan). But whenever one is corrupted God sends another. That is until God sent Islam, whose monotheism is not to be corrupted until the end of time. This is the the Truth - there have been no major religions after Islam.
That's what Hinduism teaches now...I'm saying in the beginning it was a monotheistic faith (I'm talking about far back in its ancient roots). Buddhism has its roots in Hinduism.
OK I'm the one ignorant of God's power but you think God would let Satan (the most rebellious of Creation) be the GOD of anything.
Why then did God allow the spreading of Islam, which replaced Christianity in many places, and when Muslims are projected to outnumber Christians in 30-50 years.
What a lie because Muslims are not projected to outnumber Christianity. But even if so, the high population of a religion does not mean that it is true.
Christianity is growing at a rate of 2.3% annually, which is roughly equal to the growth of the world population as a whole. Therefore the percentage of Christians in the world is stable or declining. Islam, however, is growing by 2.9% annually, faster than the world population. Therefore the percentage of Muslims will be higher than Christians by around 2025 if current growth continues. Christianity has hit a plateau while Islam is growing fast.
sorry I tried to post the web address several times (I usually do when I give statistics) but I think youtube doesn't allow it as it wouldn't post. So I took the URL out and it let me post. there must be a block. I'll send it in a PM if you want.
do you even know what you are talking about? For one there is no known founder of Hinduism, it's an ancient religion that far predates even Judaism - for two Hindus believe in a supreme being called Brahman, the other gods are seen as manifestations of this ONE God. Its easy to see how a monotheistic beginning turned into paganism and idol worship through the adding of "partners" to One God.
Why is it that you believe Satan is so powerful? Who is God here?
Funny you accuse Muslims of worshiping Satan but which of us attributes more authority to him?
If Satan has power, where would he get that power? It would have to come from God. How can you believe that God would give Satan authority over His Creation? I believe Satan has power only over those who grant it to him and obey him. he has no power of his own. It seems you think he is some sort of demigod.
Well, I don't feel separate from God, nor do I believe He would feel separate from His Creation. He knows us better than we know ourselves. I can forgive people, you can forgive people (I'd assume), God can forgive people.
It seems what you're basically saying about God is that He created humans weak and prone to sin, allowed Satan (who apparently has great power and authority to tempt people to sin) to run loose among them, then when the humans inevitably make a mistake He turns His back on them forever unless they believe with all their hearts on an illogical religion?
Satan is not the god of this world - there is only one God and He is the God of everything - I can't believe you think He would let Satan be the god of anything - and yet hilariously you think MUSLIMS are the ones who worship Satan... go figure.
If God is far more powerful then He shouldn't be letting Satan run around messing with His Creation.
If Satan has some kind of power, more than the ability to whisper into man's heart, it wouldn't make sense for God to let him stay around. he is a challenge to God's authority.
-There are nonbiblical writings along the order of commentaries on the OT, paraphrases that expand on the Law, rule books of the community, war conduct, thanksgiving psalms, hymnic compositions, benedictions, liturgical texts, and sapiential (wisdom) writings
- The Dead Sea Scrolls were most likely written by the Essenes during the period from about 200 B.C. to 68 C.E./A.D.
-The scrolls contain previously unknown stories about biblical figures such as Enoch, Abraham, and Noah.
roxy, "He allowed them to be corrupted but not without replacing them with something better and similar. But the root of all Scripture is with God so the true Torah and Gospels still exist with Him. "
Oh yeah??? Wasn't the Torah and the Gospels meant for reading and learning the ways of God from those books?
So what good are they to anyone if they are with allah?
so as you can see the Dead Sea Scrolls prove the Torah IS changed. Besides the Scrolls date back to 200 B.C. which is long after Moses received the original Torah from God.
Talk about shirk, and talk about a silly god who does not know which way it really is.
allah Forgives shirk (even in the same sura):
quran 4:153 "... Yet they [the Israelites] worshipped the calf even after Clear Signs had come to them; even so We forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority."
allah does NOT Forgive shirk:
quran 4:48 - "allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him;"
God forgives anyone who asks for forgiveness but once the person is DEAD it is too late, the matter is decided. Anyone who repents of shirk will be forgiven but anyone who dies in shirk will never be forgiven because it is too late to repent. This would be exceedingly clear if you had actually read the Qur'an or those verses in context.
that's not what the quran said, It was pretty clear, allah was saying shirk would never be forgiven.
Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, Hath strayed far, far away (from the right). -- Sura 4:116
allah forgiveth NOT.... If you still think he does forgive this sin, then it is a clear contradiction... and I know there are many, so allah is not The God.
It is not a contradiction because it is meant He will not forgive the person on the Day of Judgment. This is clear from the other verses I showed you. We believe that most sins can be forgiven by God on the Day of Judgment if you are a believer. If there are too many sins then you will go to Hell for a while after which God may forgive you and let you into Heaven. But He will never forgive (unrepentant) shirk, that is, the person will stay in Hell forever.
Where did you get the idea that you can go to hell for a while and then go to heaven? Hell is forever, because the wrath of God abides forever on those who reject Jesus Christ the only way to be saved.
The payment for sins can never be paid on your own. You have sinned against an infinitely holy and just God. If you go there you will never get out because it is an infinite debt.
rapid I am a Muslim, that's what I believe. If you reject God, who is infinite, your punishment is also infinite. But something lesser than that can be forgiven if you have payed for it.
"Those who took to worshiping the calf will be afflicted by their Lord's wrath and by disgrace in this life.' This is the way We repay those who invent such falsehoods, but our Lord is most forgiving and most merciful towards those who do wrong, then repent afterwards and truly believe. (7:152-153)
and "It is not true repentance when people continue to do evil until death confronts them and then say, 'Now I repent,' nor when they die defiant: We have prepared a painful torment for these." (4:18)
Islam is the the truth whether u christian shits believe it or not islam will pawn ur swollen asses Islam is indestructible u worshipper of satans christians fuk ur mother fukin butts
Check the post below. Ecclesiastes is talking about the earth abiding to the end of the age.
This is the true word meaning of forever - till the end of the age.
Hence there is no contradiction. And are you surprised? The Bible has NO ERRORS, it is the Word of God, which is without error.
Islam is in error, and all involved must repent and believe that Jesus Christ is Lord, or they will face Him and be judged by Him and be sentenced to eternity in hell.
its error started with the opening of this book from genesis 1:1-29 8 errors when it says universe created in 6 24 hr days,earth is created b4 sun,moon has its own light n many more such as earth is flat, it is at the center of the universe,sun moven around the n sun many more n ends with the fantasy n lots of error of revealation like when earth quake happens god shake the earth n couple of stars fall in the fountain n many more.
THe Jehovah's witnesses use that passage in Ecclesiastes to say the earth will last for eternity but its not the same meaning in the original Hebrew the word is Owlam which means long duration or perpetual. If you read this verse in its context it becomes clear "1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh : but the earth abideth for ever." So what its saying is the earth outlives people. The lesson for today is, for ever does not mean eternity.
When the Bible speaks of the earth lasting forever, it refers to the physical planet core, devoid of life. This is what Psalm 104 means by foundations of the earth.
The earth's atmosphere and surface seethe with life because of orgone energy, a pro-creative energy. The complete withdrawal of this energy will indeed destroy the earth's surface and heavens (sky). That is why when a reference is made to the destruction of the earth, the heavens are also included in the desolation.
The life of the earth is what makes our planet special, but at some point God will wipe the life off and start a new creation on the structure of the old earth.
ok buddy.. if you watch science channel like i do, you would know that our sun has not reached the end of it's life. Before the end of its life, it will become a red giant and engulf mercury, venus, and come very close to the earth or engulf it too. in the Quran, it says on the last day of this earth... the sun will get so close to the earth, that every sinner will be burned by the sun's heat... there's another scientific fact for you
You are a sinner. You will be burned then. You know that everyone deserves to be in hell for their sins, and no-one has fulfilled the law of Moses except Jesus.
Jesus lived the perfect life that we could not live, and died the death we should have died.
It is either you accept Jesus' payment for your sins, or pay for your sins in hell for an eternity.
well you tard, i probably wont be alive at that time but anyways... jesus never died for our sins, why would he die for the sins of a murderer, rapist, or other evil people??? and you christians are confused yourselves.. some of you say he is god, others say he is the son of god, and say that jesus, god, and the holy spirit are the same in the trinity..???
"But God has allowed trade and forbidden usury. Whoever, on receiving God's warning, stops taking usury may keep his past gains - God will be his judge - but whoever goes back to usury will be an inhabitant of the Fire, there to remain. God blights usury, but blesses charitable deeds with multiple increase: He does not LOVE the ungrateful sinner. (2:276)
"Say, 'If you LOVE God, follow me, and God will LOVE you and forgive you your sins; God is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.' (3:32)
it is interesting calling the bible god ,the god of love when it even not spared innocent women, children n even sucking babies n even animals like ass n donkey.
if ur so called bible god is god of love then which god told 2 kill every 1 but 2 keep the virgins 4 themselve.
"Spend in God's cause: do not contribute to your destruction with your own hands, but do good, for God LOVES those who do good. (2:195)
"They ask you about menstruation. Say 'Menstruation is a painful condition, so keep away from women during it. Do not approach them until they are cleansed; when they are cleansed, you may approach them as God has ordained. God LOVES those who turn to Him, and He LOVES those who keep themselves clean.(2:222)
"Even so, there are some who choose to worship others besides God as rivals to Him, LOVING them with the LOVE due to God, but the believers have greater LOVE for God. If only the idolaters could see - as they will see when they face the torment - that all power belongs to God, and that God punishes severely. (2:165)
"Fight in God's cause against those who fight you, but do not overstep the limits: God does not LOVE those who overstep the limits." (2:190)
"This is how it is: here you are, you LOVE them, but they do not LOVE you; you believe in all the Scriptures and when they meet you, they say, 'We believe', but when they are alone, they bite their fingertips in rage at you. Say, 'Die of rage!' God knows exactly what is in everyone's hearts." (3:119)
"who give, both in prosperity and adversity, who restrain their anger and pardon people - God LOVES those who do good - (3:134)
"And so God gave them both the rewards of this world and the excellent rewards of the Hereafter: God LOVES those who do good." (3:148)
There are 114 surahs in the Qur'an. So far I have showed you 18 uses of the word love, loves, or loving and I am only part way through surah 3. There goes your theory.
Christians and Jews in Arabic countries call God "Allah". If you were to translate the Bible into Arabic it would say "Allah". because that is what the word lit. means, The God. LOL you say Allah is the God of this world?? Here is what the Qur'an says about this world:
"Bear in mind that the present life is just a game, a diversion, an attraction, a cause of boasting among you, of rivalry in wealth and children. It is like plants that spring up after the rain: their growth at first delights the sowers, but then you see them wither away, turn yellow, and become stubble. There is terrible punishment in the next life as well as forgiveness and approval from God; the life of this world is only an illusory pleasure." (57:20)
Yes I say allah is shaytan. And it doesn't matter what lies he tells you to believe it. He will tell them to you.
He will even talk evil of himself, that is, evil of shaytan, in the hope that you never discover that he is actually shaytan himself.
That's the kind of liar he is.
And if you believed him, then you he has accomplished his purpose. Which was to keep you from discovering the Real God - Yahuah of the Bible. And thus making sure you're on your way to hellfire.
"Who spend their wealth to show off, who do not believe in Him or the Last Day. Whoever has Satan as his companion has an evil companion!" (4:38)
"We said to the angels, 'Bow down before Adam,' and they all bowed down, but not Iblis (Satan): he was one of the jinn and he disobeyed his Lord's command. Are you going to take him and his offspring as your masters instead of Me, even though they are your enemies? What a bad bargain for the evildoers!" (18:50)
"in His place the idolaters invoke only females, and Satan, the rebel" (4:118) "God rejected, who said, 'I will certainly take my due share of Your servants;" (4:119) "I will mislead them and incite vain desires in them; I will command them to slit the ears of cattle; I will command them to tamper with God's creation.' Whoever chooses Satan as a patron instead of God is utterly ruined: (4:120)
And tell me how God has a completely different personality in the Bible and Qur'an.
you can say Allah is shaytan, but since I have showed you those verses you have no proof for it. I could say that you are shaytan but there is no proof so I don't think that.
We also believe Allah always speaks the truth. The trinitarian Christians have gone astray, and some of the Jews have earned God's anger but I don't believe He hates them. Allah even says:
"The believers, the Jews, the Christians, and the Sabians - all those who believe in God and the Last Day and do good - will have their rewards with their Lord. No fear for them, nor will they grieve." (2:68)
"But they are not all alike. There are some among the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) who are upright, who recite God's revelations during the night, who bow down in worship, who believe in God and the Last Day who order what is right and forbid what is wrong, who are quick to do good deeds. These people are among the righteous and they will not be denied for whatever good deeds they do. God knows exactly who is conscious of Him. (3:113 - 3:115)
That has been made null and void. And that must be the reason why the imams don't quote it in their sermons ;-)
They rather like to shout out hatred against Jews.
"The Hour [Day of Resurrection] will not arrive until you fight the Jews, [until a Jew will hide behind a rock or tree] and the rock and the tree will say: 'Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"
for one, what you are quoting is a Hadith. The Qur'an has more authority than the Hadith, and not all of them are reliable. For two, you are taking it out of context. that Hadith is referring to a specific group of jews that were fighting the believers and Prophet Jesus.
i'm sorry that there are some imams that hate jews but i believe they pick and choose certain verses in the quran and statements of muhammad(pbuh) out of the context of other verses in the qur'an and hadith.
As early as the first century A.H. [the 7th century] the following aphorism was pronounced: The Sunna can dispense with the Koran but not the Koran with the Sunna. Proceeding to still further lengths, some Muslims assert that in controversial matters, the Sunna overrules the authority of the Koran, but not vice versaall admit the Sunna completes and explains it [the Koran].
i don't care what some Muslims say. I worship God not Muslims. and they are not all like that I believe the majority hold the Qur'an to be more important. if any Muslim holds the Hadith to be the authority he doesn't deserve to be called a Muslim. in Islam Qur'an is final authority, end of story. i am not responsible for any that deviate.
Allah's "plan of salvation" is that men should worship God alone and do good deeds.
btw you keep using the word "Allah" as a means to distinguish the Qur'an from the Bible. But I already explained to you that "Allah" is not a personal name, it is only Arabic for "The God". An Arabic Christian would say "Allah" when talking about Jesus. They would say Jesus is Allah. or Jesus is The God. So when you are saying "Allah" is a liar you are saying God is a liar. be careful
what i'm trying to tell you is that Allah is not a name like Yahushua or whatever is a name. Allah does not equal the God of the Qur'an. it is the Arabic name for God. i'm not talking about God of Qur'an I mean even jews and christians call God Allah in Arabic. so when you say "Allah is a liar" you might as well say "Dios is a liar". Dios is God is Spanish. either way you are saying God is a liarl. it would be safer to say Shaytan is a liar, since you believe he is god of the quran.
if you want to say The God in Arabic you would say Allah, lit The God.
therefore (you could say) Jesus is THE GOD or Jesus is AL-LAH. if you can't understand this concept then you need to look into the Arabic language. if you translate the Bible into Arabic it will call God ALLAH because that is Arabic form like Dios is Spanish form. if you translate the Bible into Spanish its going to call God Dios.
Yes roxy ;-) in that case why don't we just change the shahada to; there is no allah but allah"
You're wrong! the arabic word for god is "ilah".
And allah is the name of the ilah of the muslims. The same as it was for the pagan arabs before muhammed. It's the very same god too. And if you go and do the haj, you will see the same rituals as the pagan arabs used to do.
Oh my Lord I left out the i! what has the world come to... the letters are many times left out for example "in the name of God" is Bismi Allah but becomes Bismillah. you say Allah is God of Muslims but then say He's God of Pagans? make up your mind.
there is no Allah but Allah would be literally saying "there is no The God but The God." Instead we say laa ilaahah il Allah there is no god but The God or just God in simple english.
there is no support for your view. we do not worship the ka'ba we turn towards it. but we do not direct our worship to it nor do we ask it for help or fear it.
Hello you are so paranoid about me because I am Muslim. I'm trying to meet you halfway and say that whoever is in REALITY outside of our dispute is the Creator of the Universe I take as my Lord. There is only one there to worship even according to you.
You would be fine, if you were in fact taking the Creator of the universe as you Lord.
The trouble is that shaytan has created a false religion, made up a new name for himself, and tricked you and a few billion others into believing that he was the Creator.
Nope, allah is not the Creator. The real Creator is Yahuah, and you can discover who He is by reading the Bible.
I have read the Bible. There is some wisdom and truth but also many contradictions and atrocities such as when God commands the Jews to enter into towns and kill everyone including children and pregnant women.
"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." Hosea 13:16
" God commands the Jews to enter into towns and kill everyone including children and pregnant women."
Yes this must seem pretty bad, but you need to read the whole story. God has often been talking to those people for hundreds of years, to try to get them to change their ways.
But they refuced, so He had no other way than to take them out.
Those were the people who would sacrifice their own children to false gods.
Yep, repelled against God. there's a price to pay when humans do that.
I have no problem with God punishing the ADULTS who have been sinning. But the children and pregnant women? Don't you believe God is Loving? Or isn't that what you accused the Qur'an of lacking.
I believe God has to make tough decisions sometimes.
Now, I did not read the part of the Scripture lately to which you are referring to. But I do know Yahuah is loving, which is a quality allah totally lacks.
he makes up for his lack of love, by being an expert liar. So he may even pretend to love sometimes.
we believe God is:The All Compassionate,The All Merciful,The Pure One,The Source of Peace,
The Guardian,The Forgiver,The Giver of All,The Sustainer,The Reliever,The Forbearing,The Forgiver and Hider of Faults,The Rewarder of Thankfulness,The Nourisher,The Generous,The LOVING ONE,The Protecting Friend,The Doer of Good,The Guide to Repentance,The Creator of Good,The Patient One
The God you think we follow is the bogeyman. No Muslim follows the God you have described thus far.
"we believe God is:The All Compassionate,The All Merciful,The Pure One,The Source of Peace,
The Guardian,The Forgiver,The Giver of All,The Sustainer,The Reliever,The Forbearing,The Forgiver and Hider of Faults,The Rewarder of Thankfulness,The Nourisher,The Generous,The LOVING ONE,The Protecting Friend,The Doer of Good,The Guide to Repentance,The Creator of Good,The Patient One "
Oh yes! shaytan would make all these claims for himself! he knows what is good, even if he isn't that way himself.
I am not saying there is no god but this rock i'm saying there is no God but the Creator of the Universe whoever that may be. I believe He sent the Qur'an but we still believe in the same God because there is only One. imagine if someone put an idol behind a curtain, and told 3 people to worship it. They don't know what it looks like, one says it has horns, one says it has a tail, one that it has wings. they are still worshiping the same idol but disagree about its appearance.
ALLAH is not the name for God is an Arabic word that means THE GOD. Arabic Christians and Jews call God Allah. If you cannot understand this you are just being stubborn. it is not His name like Zeus is a name. it is a title, THE GOD. If you believe in The One God you should not call him a liar in any language. you are calling God a liar in Arabic. If you say ALLAH is a liar you are also saying God of the Bible is a liar because there is only One God there to call a liar.
and i'm not talking about God of the Qur'an so its time to take the blinders off. i'm saying even if you were right and God of the Bible is the real God it still would not be right to say Allah is a liar. even if I believed Qur'an was from shaytan and Bible was correct, I would never say Allah is a liar because it applies to God no matter your view on Him. this is the last time i'm going to try to explain the Arabic meaning. you are indeed stubborn if you can't understand.
if you are going to talk about something the quran says, please give the surah and verse.
i am not trying to argue christianity vs islam with you. i just think it is the obligation of all muslims to straighten out misconceptions of our religion. you made several accusations about the quran about what it says or doesn't say and i showed you how you were wrong. but you can believe what you want, as per the Holy Qur'an:
Before you can attempt to straighten out misconception about your religion, you first must remove your own misconceptions. And learn what islam really is.
I have looked pretty deep into Islam read many different translations of the Qur'an and read many Hadiths etc. on the other hand you have said God has daughters, and that He doesn't love. both of these ideas are completely false, baseless, and utterly rejected by the religion of Islam. all you know about Islam is christian propaganda - go ahead try to deny, that would be a lie.
tell me why is it that Christians have such contempt for the religion of Islam. every single video that has anything to do with Islam or Muslim there are Christians or Atheists attacking Islam. where are you on Jewish, Hindu, or Pagan videos? does our seeking to worship God alone without any partners bother you all so much? when in reality there are many similarities between all 3 abrahamic faiths. and yet you call God shaytan with no proof, even though Qur'an says God sent the Torah and Gospels
but as a Christian you should also believe Hinduism, Buddhism, etc are from Satan and yet you hardly ever hear a Christian attacking those religions. it's always Islam. and though Jews are mentioned in the bible they still reject Jesus - according to the Bible they are going to Hell yet Christians never denounce them. We don't consider our God Shaytan and our rules and beliefs are not very different from the Bible.
Yes indeed I believe Hinduism, Buddhism, etc are from satan. And don't say we never denounce them, we do!
But islam is the worst, because their unholy book teaches them to take over the entire world by any means necessary. Including violent jihad. And by lying. i.e. islam is a religion of peace lie.
When islam is anything but peace, it is the most violent religion on earth.
So why not almost always islam? It is after all the one trying to kill the rest of us.
Why send me to Hell because I did not believe God was a man or separated into 3 persons. This is a step away from Paganism. God did send Torah and Gospels but the ones we have today are not the originals. this is proven fact. look at all the books left out of the bible by committees and books such as revelations where a random guy had a random dream and said it was scripture. there are so many different versions of the Bible and so many sects. but the Bible still contains some wisdom and truth
Yahuah wanted you to be good, and follow His teachings! But if you refuce to make Him your Lord, if you do Not accept Him and His teachings, then why shouldn't he send you to hell?
That's where all the evil ones belong after all.
And we are all sinners to beging with, and all deserve to go to hell. There is no human being who has never NOT sinned. So the punishment for that is death in the lake of fire.
And only way is to be forgiven by the One true God who gave His live for our sins.
Well I don't believe the One God would teach Paganism lite. I feel a lot more secure betting my eternal fate on worshiping God alone. If all Pagans are going to Hell I am staying as far away from that as possible. My Lord is the Creator of the Heavens and Earth. Whoever that is I take as my Lord. We do not all deserve to go to Hell. God is Most Forgiving. He is the Most Merciful of those who show Mercy. I can forgive but God can't?
Well, I don't think He said the wages of sin is death. We believe God can forgive sins on His own without killing Himself first. He forgives anyone who asks for forgiveness. it is the unrepentant sinner who deserves Hell. but if you ask for forgiveness it shows you are still devoted to God and love Him. this is what matters most in the end, not our mistakes. God cannot be man nor can He die. That is my belief.
"God cannot be man nor can He die. That is my belief."
Who are you to tell God what He can do, and what He cannot do? And who are you to decide God cannot enter into His own creation and become a man just like you?
When He became a man, He didn't stop being God! He was 100% man, yet 100% God!
It is a very silly belief that you can tell what God can do, and what not.
Don't you think God has more knowledge, power, and ability to do whatever He wants?
A man cannot be God at the same time. God is Self Sustaining, Perfect, and Eternal. Man is none of these things. I think God could make Himself a man if He wanted to but then He would no longer be God. It's one or the other.
roxy, "A man cannot be God at the same time. God is Self Sustaining, Perfect, and Eternal. Man is none of these things."
I full well know that this is what you believe. But I tell you, you are totally wrong! God can, and He has become a man. He walked on the earth 2000 years ago. And His name was Yahushua.
Even when He became a man, He never stopped being God at the same time!
He left the best part of Himself in heaven! He is omnipotent! Omnipresent! Omniscient too!
God is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient, I agree. But man is none of these things. You say God left these attributes in Heaven? Then God was in Heaven and not on Earth the whole time.
When I said He left the best part of Himself in heaven, I meant that he emptied himself, divested himself of his prestige (glory) and privileges." (Philippians 2:1-11)
He did Not give up the nature of God! Thus He never stopped being God!
He really is omnipresent... this means He can be, and manifest Himself in several places at the same time!
And there is no reason why He couldn't manifest Himself in many different forms.
Did you only do what a typical muslim does, even with his quran. Reads it without any real understanding?
I said He emptied Himself of His glory, His prestige, and His privileges.
I did not say He emptied Himself of His Godly nature and attributes. I doubt He'd ever do that. Anyway, this job of living like a human in a perfectly human body did not require that He stops being God.
roxy, "But a man is not like God. That's what I'm saying. That living like a human by definition is to stop being God."
That is muslim faulty logic. You cannot tell God what He can do!
God tells you what He can do! Not you to define what God can, may do. The muslim idea of God is that he is like a puppy on leash. And the muslim tells that puppy what he can do, and what he cannot do.
Well, God isn't subject to your faulty reasoning! He is what He wants to be!
that is not faulty logic. rather it is reasoning. reason is a gift God gave us, therefore we should use it. If one understands that God is perfect, limitless, eternal, etc while man is sinful, imperfect, temporary, limited etc you can also reach the safe, reliable conclusion that nothing can be both at the same time. Why would God give us reasoning and expect us not to use it. Give me a break. Can God make a shape that is circle and a square at the same time? not by His own laws.
The major Scientific Error in Quran is the Spliting of Moon. This Never Happend. This was an Arabic Poem. When the Author found Her poem in Quran she objected and Mohamed the Prophet of Grace Orderd Omar to Kill her and she was Killed. Vooow.
visiondq1 6 months ago
@visiondq1
LoL!! I always keep wondering where u ppl find these fairy tales !! LoL
h2dude69 5 months ago
you only need to read the talking animals in the Bible to know it's a book of fairytales
viridismonasteriense 10 months ago
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Islam confusion
Read it
Surah An-Naziat (79:30) and after that He spread out the earth: He made it flat, for it had been created before the heaven, but without having been spread out;
Surah 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
Surah 96: 2 Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood
Muhammad is he married a girl who was only nine years old Aisha (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234).
Surah 4:34 A Husband if he wants can beat his wife
SuperPricil 11 months ago
@SuperPricil Why would Islam will be confusion? The earth is created in 2 days and everything beside it in 4 days so total of 6 days. FAG
gamestory13 10 months ago
Although today, people lump them all together and say there are six legs, the Bible distinguished them here. The Bible referred to them in more detail than perhaps expected. Notice how the feet and legs are separated in the verses and referred to separately. The Bible is being very precise as to distinguish the front four from the back two. So, there is no contradiction at all:
MoongodAllahofMecca 1 year ago
The Bible in Leviticus 11:21 indicates that the hind jumping legs are not included in the four “walking” or “creeping” feet. The feet are the four front limbs used for walking and look the same. The back two limbs are primarily for long hops.
MoongodAllahofMecca 1 year ago
Christians trying to prove that their religion is true, but every day we discovers the scientific errors in the Bible >>>You all know the dragon is an imaginary animal, is mentioned in books, the legendary, but the Bible recognizes the existence of animal, the dragon, and this is the biggest Guide that the gospel words of a human
iloveyouislam1 1 year ago
The key part of the verse is the phrase "above their feet jointed legs." The Hebrew uses two different words to describe the "feet" (regel) and "legs" (kera). What the verse says is that these insects walk on four "feet" (their anterior four short legs), with an additional two "legs" that are used for jumping. Therefore, all six appendages are describes
MoongodAllahofMecca 1 year ago
Abandoned churches in Europe and everywhere, almost ... Because people know that the Christian religion had been distorted
iloveyouislam1 1 year ago
In the Gospel, birds have four legs Hahahahaha, we all know that there is no bird has four legs ، If it is intended to insects, no insects have four legs .....
Bible Word of priests, is impossible to be the Word of allah
iloveyouislam1 1 year ago
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@iloveyouislam1 QURAN VERSES SAYING EARTH IS FLAT
Sura Al-Kahf (18:47)
And (remember) the Day We shall cause the mountains to pass away (like clouds of dust), and you will see the earth as a levelled plain, and we shall gather them all together so as to leave not one of them behind
MoongodAllahofMecca 1 year ago
@iloveyouislam1 Please read the part from the Koran, where how bee's make honey ! I was laughing so hard. Koran says in a mothers womb, bones are made first than muscles ? Doctors know that in a mothers womb, bones and muscles are formed in same time. Koran says Noah flood happened same time of Moses ? Please check the dates ?
MoongodAllahofMecca 1 year ago
Heb 1:11
11 "They shall perish;" are Referring To The heavenly Bodies, Like The Angels.
Verse 14 Says Are "THEY" not all spirits for public service... for those who are going to inherit salvation?
Read The Context my Brother. PBUT.
RappDaddy502 1 year ago
it is only a debate!
xenonDVDsurround 2 years ago
Bible is not a science book, yet its scientifically accurate. To understand Bible you need a heavenly knowledge. You simply can't blabber whatever comes to your mouth.
susik26 2 years ago
LMAO DON'T BE STUPID. I'S CLEAR CUT CONTRADICTION. If i told you my sock at this moment is only blue and again i describe this moment saying my sock was red it's a clear contradiction. so may be in bizzaro world (your idea of heaven) 3 * 1= 1 and 1+1+1=3 but here on earth we follow logic not blind faith. The Quran is a book of scientific wonders. So look at you now desperately trying to believe what you have been taught all your life. It's not blabber. Read the bible see the contradictions.
saifulisfree 2 years ago
Becoz only Bible is the true book and a historical book. Science might be wrong sometimes, becoz even scientists are human beings and they have a normal human brain... But history will be preserved untill this earth perish. There are many scientists who refered bible and accepted that it's accurate even scientifically. Darwin's evolution is totally wrong and there are no proofs for it. If science itself is not accurate how can you compare Bible with it.
susik26 2 years ago
because it's some theories in science that are very inaccurate...such as darwins...but the other theories like the planets and plants and animals apart from evolution, the other things are pretty much true..such as how babies form is accurate in science...and the quran states the exact same thing...and so many other scientific facts. bible however has some facts but also things that make it contradict itsself and quite few mistakes also.
jeff3kn18 2 years ago
@susik26 The bible is actually the total opposite of historical. Perhaps if you researched a little bit of history and compared it to the bible instead of just listening to what your fellow christians tell you, you will find this out.
BowserKod 1 year ago
By seeing these Zakhir Hussain's videos I understood onething. Muslims are very insecure about their religion. They don't have peace in their religion. Especially this man. That's why they always attack christians, Bible and Jesus. If they were so spriritual and confident about their God and religion why don't they just go on their way. Becoz they have doubts in their own religion, these guys always try to critisize christianity through stupid questions which has no meaning.
susik26 2 years ago
It is amazing that muslims with all that nonsense in their book called quran and all of the scientific and other errors in it claim that other books have errors.
People who live in a house of glass should not cast a stone.
localfun500 2 years ago
Uh, I think I've found something to disproof the Bible: It's really fucking old. It was originally written in times where no one understood how anything worked, and it's been rewritten many, many times. There's also the fact that there have been and still are religions in the world completely seperate from Christianity.
...Oh, what am I saying? That's just silly! Ha ha! Me and my logic!
-Tabris
tabrismacbeth 2 years ago
yeah but limberjack explain on how muslims continue to defear christians in debates everywhere.
CALGARYSUX 2 years ago
What a ridiculous straw man. This guy bases his clammations on english translation of the bible. I'm telling this to all of you: Don't rely on translations, study the languages if you want to proove the bible wrong. Now the only thing this guy prooved is his own ignorance. Gotta love the enthusiasm though!
limberjack 3 years ago
Every Bible is translation.... even English versions... Where is the origin?
jumbalaka2009 2 years ago
This guy forgot to go further in the text where in Hebrews 1:12 where it is stated that "like a cloak you will fold them up, and they will be chnaged". changed is heaven and earth. Clearly what this means is that the earth will remain but will be changed which goes in a cordance in revelations where God will reign on earth in his kingdom. The word perish does not neccesaraly need to mean "to be destoyed" but just like referring to the past it doesnt mean destroyed but radically altered.
majorlightning 3 years ago
Anyone who wants to go to heaven can! All you need to do is put your faith in Yahushua.
Read about Him in the Bible. Mainly the New Testament part.
Yahushua is God, He came to earth to become a man, for a short period, and for a very important mission.
He knew no one else would ever make an acceptable sacrifice on behalf of mankind. So He wanted to do this Himself!
The Creator of the universe became man, and gave His holy life, and shed His blood that we might find forgiveness.
Ammyai 3 years ago
I've read the New Testament. Some parts are noble and I believe come from God and His holy Prophet 'Isa or Jesus. But other parts are corrupted by the hands of man and Shaytan once again commanding shirk (setting up partners with God). This is what he always commands and his ways haven't changed.
You are saying GOD DIED. How can you believe such a thing. Think about it long and hard and you will see this isn't true and is an absurdity.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Yes indeed I say that God died. Yahushua did indeed die on the cross. Where He willingly laid down His very own life for the sins of mankind.
But never forget, He rose again on the third, just as He had prophesied He would do.
And you think about, what is three days in the life of God? Is it a long time compared to Eternity?
In any case, if you understand how omnipresence works, you might be able to understand that it was only this One manifestation of God that died, and came back.
Ammyai 3 years ago
Muslims believe God is eternal, without end. Such a being cannot die.
Who was God while God was dead for 3 days??
3 days is a long time for the world to exist with God dead.
with your last statement you are getting into Hinduism.
Besides Jesus is either a manifestation or God Himself. I believe everything is a manifestation because God is the one who created everything. But that doesn't mean He IS the Creation.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Such a being did die once, He was nailed to a cross at Calvary at the time.
Who was God while God was dead for three days?
Silly question ;-) Of course God was God while He (Yahushua) dead for three days.
Did you not understand God's omnipresence yet?
He wasn't only in Yahushua, He was also everywhere else at the same time. For instance, He in heaven at the same time also.
Did you also really think that *all* of God would fit into just one human body?
Ammyai 3 years ago
once again hinduism.
roxy841991 3 years ago
"with your last statement you are getting into Hinduism. "
If so, then perhaps there is some truth in hinduism. However, I think not. It's more likely you misunderstood something I said.
"Besides Jesus is either a manifestation or God Himself."
Nope, Yahushua is God incarnate. God manifesting Himself in a human body. Yahushua is God! Yahushua is the One who created everything in the first place.
Ammyai 3 years ago
"He wasn't only in Yahushua, He was also everywhere else at the same time. For instance, He in heaven at the same time also."
that is what Hindus believe in a nutshell. I thought you agreed it was from Satan.
So is Jesus a manifestation or God. If he's a manifestation, he's not God and shouldn't be worshiped. If He was God then He wasn't a man and couldn't have died. That's the only thing that makes sense.
roxy841991 3 years ago
"But other parts are corrupted by the hands of man and Shaytan "
Your god, allah made the mistake of claiming the Torah and the Injeel are his word. his books. (Surah Al-Imran 3:3,4)
I don't believe they ever were allah's books, but he claims it.
So the question is, did allah allow his books to be corrupted? Was by his will, or against his will?
Ammyai 3 years ago
did allah allow his books to be corrupted?
yes as per Qur'an 2:106
"Any revelation We annul or consign to oblivion, We replace with something better or similar. Do you not know that God has power over everything?"
He allowed them to be corrupted but not without replacing them with something better and similar. But the root of all Scripture is with God so the true Torah and Gospels still exist with Him.
roxy841991 3 years ago
aha, so allah wanted to destroy his own word, his own books! he is not very smart god at all then.
Even mere men and shaytan can win against him and change his books.
And if you say he has given something better.
he is not very clever at all because he didn't give something better in the first place!
It makes more sense if you realise the quran is the words of shaytan, and he is telling many lies in it.
Ammyai 3 years ago
the men and shaytan did not win because God sent the Qur'an.
I think the Qur'an is better than the Bible.
And I truly don't think it makes more sense believing the Qur'an is from shaytan. I think God as described in Qur'an makes much more sense and I don't think shaytan would send a Scripture commanding people to worship God and reject Satan. He's never done it before. Nor do I think God would allow Satan to do this without sending something new to clear things up.
roxy841991 3 years ago
roxy, "I think the Qur'an is better than the Bible."
You will regret that belief on the day of judgment, knowing hellfire awaits you.
I hope you will come to your senses before that day.
Yahushua is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. And no man cometh unto the Father but by Him.
Ammyai 3 years ago
We're never going to agree on this. I wanted to try to clear up your misconceptions of Islam and Muslims, but I don't think it helped. I would like to see Christians and Muslims get along and find things in common in their religions. It seems I remain among the minority in this.
This argument will go on forever. I never intended to start a huge debate. My only intent was better understanding between our faiths. I think I'll have to look elsewhere for that. But peace be upon you.
roxy841991 3 years ago
And I sincerely hope and pray you find the right way to God, whether it is Christianity or not. Know that Muslims believe in God and devote ourselves to Him. We believe Shaytan is evil. If you are right then Shaytan has mislead us as to the Nature of God, but it cannot be denied that we devote more time to God and follow His laws (I mean like in the Torah such as not eating pork) better than most. Maybe all this will be in vain in the end, but I truly don't think so.
roxy841991 3 years ago
If you are looking for something which makes sense and which you can understand immediately, you are not looking in the right place. No-one can understand everything about God.
Satan is not going to create a book which tells people to worship him. He is not that stupid you know.
And actually he has done it many times before; there are many other religions which say worship god(s).
But Satan disguises himself as gods to receive worship; because he is jealous of God's worship.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
I believe God designed our reasoning capabilities. It wouldn't be fair for Him to make the only religion acceptable to Him one that doesn't make sense. That's trickery. It gives people a complaint and excuse against Him on Judgment Day.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Satan has never before created a religion that tells people to seek refuge with God from Satan the Rejected before reading its book. He has also never created a religion that tells people to worship only one God. Since the Qur'an tells of one Infinite God and Satan, you have to believe that the God of the Qur'an is in fact Satan and the Satan of the Qur'an is in fact God. Satan is not brave enough to pose as God Himself, he only misleads by whispering into people's hearts. He is a coward.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Typical of Muslims to underestimate the power of Satan. The Bible tells us he is powerful and cunning, you must beware of him. You cannot shove him under the carpet and pretend he is just a coward. Why do you think there are many religions? Why would God create them all? Satan is brave enough to pose as God himself, and he has done so many times in many religions.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
There are many religions because God has sent many messengers to many peoples throughout history. They have all been corrupted by man (from the whisperings of Satan). But whenever one is corrupted God sends another. That is until God sent Islam, whose monotheism is not to be corrupted until the end of time. This is the the Truth - there have been no major religions after Islam.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Hinduism teaches there are many Gods, it cannot have come from God. Buddhism teaches there is no God, it cannot have come from God.
You are being ignorant of God's power because God is perfectly able to prevent the truth from being replaced with lies.
Therefore you cannot possibly assume that every religion is from God.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (Matthew 7:15)
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
That's what Hinduism teaches now...I'm saying in the beginning it was a monotheistic faith (I'm talking about far back in its ancient roots). Buddhism has its roots in Hinduism.
OK I'm the one ignorant of God's power but you think God would let Satan (the most rebellious of Creation) be the GOD of anything.
Why then did God allow the spreading of Islam, which replaced Christianity in many places, and when Muslims are projected to outnumber Christians in 30-50 years.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Far from the truth, the founder of Hinduism believed in many gods. There is no evidence for your claims.
You are ignorant if God's power if you do not think he is able to preserve the truth, preventing it from being replaced by lies.
Simply God does not stop the spreading of false religions but he warns us of false prophets. Jesus warns us that anyone after him is a false prophet.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
What a lie because Muslims are not projected to outnumber Christianity. But even if so, the high population of a religion does not mean that it is true.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
Christianity is growing at a rate of 2.3% annually, which is roughly equal to the growth of the world population as a whole. Therefore the percentage of Christians in the world is stable or declining. Islam, however, is growing by 2.9% annually, faster than the world population. Therefore the percentage of Muslims will be higher than Christians by around 2025 if current growth continues. Christianity has hit a plateau while Islam is growing fast.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Where do you get your statistics from?
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
sorry I tried to post the web address several times (I usually do when I give statistics) but I think youtube doesn't allow it as it wouldn't post. So I took the URL out and it let me post. there must be a block. I'll send it in a PM if you want.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Yes please send in PM.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
So?
Quantity means nothing.
localfun500 2 years ago
do you even know what you are talking about? For one there is no known founder of Hinduism, it's an ancient religion that far predates even Judaism - for two Hindus believe in a supreme being called Brahman, the other gods are seen as manifestations of this ONE God. Its easy to see how a monotheistic beginning turned into paganism and idol worship through the adding of "partners" to One God.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Just like the Pagan Arabs did before Muhammed(PBUH) arrived and changed them back on the rightious path and the only true monotheistic religion.
dontbecutk 2 years ago
Why is it that you believe Satan is so powerful? Who is God here?
Funny you accuse Muslims of worshiping Satan but which of us attributes more authority to him?
If Satan has power, where would he get that power? It would have to come from God. How can you believe that God would give Satan authority over His Creation? I believe Satan has power only over those who grant it to him and obey him. he has no power of his own. It seems you think he is some sort of demigod.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Don't get me wrong, Satan is powerful but God is far more powerful. We do not give authority to Satan because he already has some authority.
Incase you don't know, Satan was an angel who rebelled against God and was cast out from heaven.
Satan was created by God as an angel in the beginning, and he had power, so the power came from God.
He had free will and choose evil instead of good.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
Because of sin, which you would not know how severe it is. Because people must realize the true problem of sin because it seperates you from God.
Well seeing that in the Bible says he is called the God of this world, God has obviously left him with some power and God knows best.
The world is far from perfect and thinking that Satan has no power is implying that there is nothing wrong with sin.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
Well, I don't feel separate from God, nor do I believe He would feel separate from His Creation. He knows us better than we know ourselves. I can forgive people, you can forgive people (I'd assume), God can forgive people.
roxy841991 3 years ago
It seems what you're basically saying about God is that He created humans weak and prone to sin, allowed Satan (who apparently has great power and authority to tempt people to sin) to run loose among them, then when the humans inevitably make a mistake He turns His back on them forever unless they believe with all their hearts on an illogical religion?
roxy841991 3 years ago
Satan is not the god of this world - there is only one God and He is the God of everything - I can't believe you think He would let Satan be the god of anything - and yet hilariously you think MUSLIMS are the ones who worship Satan... go figure.
roxy841991 3 years ago
If God is far more powerful then He shouldn't be letting Satan run around messing with His Creation.
If Satan has some kind of power, more than the ability to whisper into man's heart, it wouldn't make sense for God to let him stay around. he is a challenge to God's authority.
roxy841991 3 years ago
BTW, did you Not realise that the Torah is proven correct and uncorrupted by the Dead Sea Scrolls found in Qumran?
Yes, they prove the Torah is unchanged to this day!
It is your quran that is wrong, because it never ever was the word of God.
Ammyai 3 years ago
-There are nonbiblical writings along the order of commentaries on the OT, paraphrases that expand on the Law, rule books of the community, war conduct, thanksgiving psalms, hymnic compositions, benedictions, liturgical texts, and sapiential (wisdom) writings
- The Dead Sea Scrolls were most likely written by the Essenes during the period from about 200 B.C. to 68 C.E./A.D.
-The scrolls contain previously unknown stories about biblical figures such as Enoch, Abraham, and Noah.
roxy841991 3 years ago
roxy, "He allowed them to be corrupted but not without replacing them with something better and similar. But the root of all Scripture is with God so the true Torah and Gospels still exist with Him. "
Oh yeah??? Wasn't the Torah and the Gospels meant for reading and learning the ways of God from those books?
So what good are they to anyone if they are with allah?
Ammyai 3 years ago
so as you can see the Dead Sea Scrolls prove the Torah IS changed. Besides the Scrolls date back to 200 B.C. which is long after Moses received the original Torah from God.
roxy841991 3 years ago
yes that is what they were meant for.
they are not good to anyone anymore. that is why God sent to Qur'an, so that we weren't left without guidance.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Talk about shirk, and talk about a silly god who does not know which way it really is.
allah Forgives shirk (even in the same sura):
quran 4:153 "... Yet they [the Israelites] worshipped the calf even after Clear Signs had come to them; even so We forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority."
allah does NOT Forgive shirk:
quran 4:48 - "allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him;"
Ammyai 3 years ago
God forgives anyone who asks for forgiveness but once the person is DEAD it is too late, the matter is decided. Anyone who repents of shirk will be forgiven but anyone who dies in shirk will never be forgiven because it is too late to repent. This would be exceedingly clear if you had actually read the Qur'an or those verses in context.
roxy841991 3 years ago
that's not what the quran said, It was pretty clear, allah was saying shirk would never be forgiven.
Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, Hath strayed far, far away (from the right). -- Sura 4:116
allah forgiveth NOT.... If you still think he does forgive this sin, then it is a clear contradiction... and I know there are many, so allah is not The God.
Ammyai 3 years ago
It is not a contradiction because it is meant He will not forgive the person on the Day of Judgment. This is clear from the other verses I showed you. We believe that most sins can be forgiven by God on the Day of Judgment if you are a believer. If there are too many sins then you will go to Hell for a while after which God may forgive you and let you into Heaven. But He will never forgive (unrepentant) shirk, that is, the person will stay in Hell forever.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Where did you get the idea that you can go to hell for a while and then go to heaven? Hell is forever, because the wrath of God abides forever on those who reject Jesus Christ the only way to be saved.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
The payment for sins can never be paid on your own. You have sinned against an infinitely holy and just God. If you go there you will never get out because it is an infinite debt.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
As a Muslim I also believe that God is Forgiving and Merciful. He is the Most Merciful of those who show Mercy.
roxy841991 3 years ago
rapid I am a Muslim, that's what I believe. If you reject God, who is infinite, your punishment is also infinite. But something lesser than that can be forgiven if you have payed for it.
roxy841991 3 years ago
for example God talks more about this incident
"Those who took to worshiping the calf will be afflicted by their Lord's wrath and by disgrace in this life.' This is the way We repay those who invent such falsehoods, but our Lord is most forgiving and most merciful towards those who do wrong, then repent afterwards and truly believe. (7:152-153)
roxy841991 3 years ago
and "It is not true repentance when people continue to do evil until death confronts them and then say, 'Now I repent,' nor when they die defiant: We have prepared a painful torment for these." (4:18)
roxy841991 3 years ago
poor r the ones who read n have no eyes to see wat they read by the way Islam is coming
dangergodboy 3 years ago
Islam is the the truth whether u christian shits believe it or not islam will pawn ur swollen asses Islam is indestructible u worshipper of satans christians fuk ur mother fukin butts
dangergodboy 3 years ago
lol :p poor guy :P please read a book or something... fuck allah
uck1007 3 years ago
That's not what Islam says about Christians, woops, looks like your going to Hell!!!
Entheogiest 3 years ago
Check the post below. Ecclesiastes is talking about the earth abiding to the end of the age.
This is the true word meaning of forever - till the end of the age.
Hence there is no contradiction. And are you surprised? The Bible has NO ERRORS, it is the Word of God, which is without error.
Islam is in error, and all involved must repent and believe that Jesus Christ is Lord, or they will face Him and be judged by Him and be sentenced to eternity in hell.
1wingsolja 3 years ago
keep dreaming that bible has no errors.
its error started with the opening of this book from genesis 1:1-29 8 errors when it says universe created in 6 24 hr days,earth is created b4 sun,moon has its own light n many more such as earth is flat, it is at the center of the universe,sun moven around the n sun many more n ends with the fantasy n lots of error of revealation like when earth quake happens god shake the earth n couple of stars fall in the fountain n many more.
sami6108 3 years ago
THe Jehovah's witnesses use that passage in Ecclesiastes to say the earth will last for eternity but its not the same meaning in the original Hebrew the word is Owlam which means long duration or perpetual. If you read this verse in its context it becomes clear "1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh : but the earth abideth for ever." So what its saying is the earth outlives people. The lesson for today is, for ever does not mean eternity.
BugkillaMan 3 years ago
Bugkillaman, "The lesson for today is, for ever does not mean eternity. "
Good lesson! I wish everyone could learn that one!
Ammyai 3 years ago
Please quote me a verse from the Quran which says the gospels were corrupted by men.
You just have to investigate with an UNBIASED mind and you will find there are no errors or contradictions in the Bible.
As for the Quran, there are many. And the more I investigate, the more I see that the Quran is false and is obviously not from God.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
dumbass, obviously you arent watching the video!
xxdonxx2000 3 years ago
When the Bible speaks of the earth lasting forever, it refers to the physical planet core, devoid of life. This is what Psalm 104 means by foundations of the earth.
The earth's atmosphere and surface seethe with life because of orgone energy, a pro-creative energy. The complete withdrawal of this energy will indeed destroy the earth's surface and heavens (sky). That is why when a reference is made to the destruction of the earth, the heavens are also included in the desolation.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
Basically, there are 2 definitions of the earth:
1: the earth's core structure without the life
2: the earth with life-sustaining essence.
The life of the earth is what makes our planet special, but at some point God will wipe the life off and start a new creation on the structure of the old earth.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
ok buddy.. if you watch science channel like i do, you would know that our sun has not reached the end of it's life. Before the end of its life, it will become a red giant and engulf mercury, venus, and come very close to the earth or engulf it too. in the Quran, it says on the last day of this earth... the sun will get so close to the earth, that every sinner will be burned by the sun's heat... there's another scientific fact for you
xxdonxx2000 3 years ago
You are a sinner. You will be burned then. You know that everyone deserves to be in hell for their sins, and no-one has fulfilled the law of Moses except Jesus.
Jesus lived the perfect life that we could not live, and died the death we should have died.
It is either you accept Jesus' payment for your sins, or pay for your sins in hell for an eternity.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago 3
well you tard, i probably wont be alive at that time but anyways... jesus never died for our sins, why would he die for the sins of a murderer, rapist, or other evil people??? and you christians are confused yourselves.. some of you say he is god, others say he is the son of god, and say that jesus, god, and the holy spirit are the same in the trinity..???
xxdonxx2000 3 years ago
Because of love my friend. Because of love, He took our punishment. Because of love He came to save the world from hell.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
It's so hard for the poor muslims to understand that. They know a god who doesn't love...
Ammyai 3 years ago
Indeed and I would be surprised if the word love was in the Quran.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
Maybe someone could do a search for "love" in the quran... It might be another "Miracle"!
Ammyai 3 years ago
I'll just wait for the Muslims to give me a verses from their book with the word love in it.
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
a verse*
Rapidfire220 3 years ago
"But God has allowed trade and forbidden usury. Whoever, on receiving God's warning, stops taking usury may keep his past gains - God will be his judge - but whoever goes back to usury will be an inhabitant of the Fire, there to remain. God blights usury, but blesses charitable deeds with multiple increase: He does not LOVE the ungrateful sinner. (2:276)
"Say, 'If you LOVE God, follow me, and God will LOVE you and forgive you your sins; God is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.' (3:32)
roxy841991 3 years ago
Don't hold your breath! :-)
Ammyai 3 years ago
the last verse was 3:31*
"Say, 'Obey God and the Messenger,' but if they turn away, God does not LOVE those who ignore." (3:32)
"God will pay those who believe and do good deeds their reward in full; God does not LOVE evildoers." (3:57)
"No indeed! God LOVES those who keep their pledges and are mindful of Him," (3:76)
roxy841991 3 years ago
it is interesting calling the bible god ,the god of love when it even not spared innocent women, children n even sucking babies n even animals like ass n donkey.
if ur so called bible god is god of love then which god told 2 kill every 1 but 2 keep the virgins 4 themselve.
was not the OT is the word of jesus ?
sami6108 3 years ago
"Spend in God's cause: do not contribute to your destruction with your own hands, but do good, for God LOVES those who do good. (2:195)
"They ask you about menstruation. Say 'Menstruation is a painful condition, so keep away from women during it. Do not approach them until they are cleansed; when they are cleansed, you may approach them as God has ordained. God LOVES those who turn to Him, and He LOVES those who keep themselves clean.(2:222)
roxy841991 3 years ago
"Even so, there are some who choose to worship others besides God as rivals to Him, LOVING them with the LOVE due to God, but the believers have greater LOVE for God. If only the idolaters could see - as they will see when they face the torment - that all power belongs to God, and that God punishes severely. (2:165)
"Fight in God's cause against those who fight you, but do not overstep the limits: God does not LOVE those who overstep the limits." (2:190)
roxy841991 3 years ago
"This is how it is: here you are, you LOVE them, but they do not LOVE you; you believe in all the Scriptures and when they meet you, they say, 'We believe', but when they are alone, they bite their fingertips in rage at you. Say, 'Die of rage!' God knows exactly what is in everyone's hearts." (3:119)
"who give, both in prosperity and adversity, who restrain their anger and pardon people - God LOVES those who do good - (3:134)
roxy841991 3 years ago
"And so God gave them both the rewards of this world and the excellent rewards of the Hereafter: God LOVES those who do good." (3:148)
There are 114 surahs in the Qur'an. So far I have showed you 18 uses of the word love, loves, or loving and I am only part way through surah 3. There goes your theory.
roxy841991 3 years ago
I must agree on this one thing....
"God LOVES those who do good." (3:148)"
Yes God does love those who do good. quran is correct for once.
However, allah is not God, not God with a capital "G", he is god with a lower case "g".
The Bible calls shaytan the god of this world, that who I believe allah is.
And the God with the capital "G" is the true God of the Bible, whose name is Yahuah!
Yahuah and allah are two different persons, with completely different personalities.
Ammyai 3 years ago
Christians and Jews in Arabic countries call God "Allah". If you were to translate the Bible into Arabic it would say "Allah". because that is what the word lit. means, The God. LOL you say Allah is the God of this world?? Here is what the Qur'an says about this world:
roxy841991 3 years ago
"Bear in mind that the present life is just a game, a diversion, an attraction, a cause of boasting among you, of rivalry in wealth and children. It is like plants that spring up after the rain: their growth at first delights the sowers, but then you see them wither away, turn yellow, and become stubble. There is terrible punishment in the next life as well as forgiveness and approval from God; the life of this world is only an illusory pleasure." (57:20)
roxy841991 3 years ago
Why would Allah want to be the God of this world if that's what He thinks about it?
You say Allah is the Shaytan? This is what He says about Shaytan:
"You who believe, enter wholeheartedly into submission to God and do not follow in Satan's footsteps, for he is your sworn enemy." (2:208)
"Satan has gained control over them and made them forget God. They are on Satan's side, and Satan's side will be the losers:" (58:19)
roxy841991 3 years ago
Yes I say allah is shaytan. And it doesn't matter what lies he tells you to believe it. He will tell them to you.
He will even talk evil of himself, that is, evil of shaytan, in the hope that you never discover that he is actually shaytan himself.
That's the kind of liar he is.
And if you believed him, then you he has accomplished his purpose. Which was to keep you from discovering the Real God - Yahuah of the Bible. And thus making sure you're on your way to hellfire.
Ammyai 3 years ago
"Who spend their wealth to show off, who do not believe in Him or the Last Day. Whoever has Satan as his companion has an evil companion!" (4:38)
"We said to the angels, 'Bow down before Adam,' and they all bowed down, but not Iblis (Satan): he was one of the jinn and he disobeyed his Lord's command. Are you going to take him and his offspring as your masters instead of Me, even though they are your enemies? What a bad bargain for the evildoers!" (18:50)
roxy841991 3 years ago
"Satan is your enemy - so treat him as an enemy - and invites his followers only to enter the blazing fire." (35:6)
roxy841991 3 years ago
"in His place the idolaters invoke only females, and Satan, the rebel" (4:118) "God rejected, who said, 'I will certainly take my due share of Your servants;" (4:119) "I will mislead them and incite vain desires in them; I will command them to slit the ears of cattle; I will command them to tamper with God's creation.' Whoever chooses Satan as a patron instead of God is utterly ruined: (4:120)
And tell me how God has a completely different personality in the Bible and Qur'an.
roxy841991 3 years ago
"And tell me how God has a completely different personality in the Bible and Qur'an."
allah is a liar. Yahuah always speaks the truth.
allah hates the Christians and the Jews. Yahuah loves them.
allah has no son. Yahuah has His only Begotten Yahuahua ha'Mashiach.
allah has 3 daughters, no son.
Both have differenct plans of Salvation.
Allah doesn't love sinners and he loves only the those that obey him. Yahuah loves the whole world, both sinners and the righteous.
Ammyai 3 years ago
you can say Allah is shaytan, but since I have showed you those verses you have no proof for it. I could say that you are shaytan but there is no proof so I don't think that.
We also believe Allah always speaks the truth. The trinitarian Christians have gone astray, and some of the Jews have earned God's anger but I don't believe He hates them. Allah even says:
roxy841991 3 years ago
"The believers, the Jews, the Christians, and the Sabians - all those who believe in God and the Last Day and do good - will have their rewards with their Lord. No fear for them, nor will they grieve." (2:68)
roxy841991 3 years ago
"But they are not all alike. There are some among the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) who are upright, who recite God's revelations during the night, who bow down in worship, who believe in God and the Last Day who order what is right and forbid what is wrong, who are quick to do good deeds. These people are among the righteous and they will not be denied for whatever good deeds they do. God knows exactly who is conscious of Him. (3:113 - 3:115)
roxy841991 3 years ago
Don't bother to quote abrogated verses to me.
That has been made null and void. And that must be the reason why the imams don't quote it in their sermons ;-)
They rather like to shout out hatred against Jews.
"The Hour [Day of Resurrection] will not arrive until you fight the Jews, [until a Jew will hide behind a rock or tree] and the rock and the tree will say: 'Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"
Ammyai 3 years ago
for one, what you are quoting is a Hadith. The Qur'an has more authority than the Hadith, and not all of them are reliable. For two, you are taking it out of context. that Hadith is referring to a specific group of jews that were fighting the believers and Prophet Jesus.
i'm sorry that there are some imams that hate jews but i believe they pick and choose certain verses in the quran and statements of muhammad(pbuh) out of the context of other verses in the qur'an and hadith.
roxy841991 3 years ago
"for one, what you are quoting is a Hadith. "
So do all the imams.
As early as the first century A.H. [the 7th century] the following aphorism was pronounced: The Sunna can dispense with the Koran but not the Koran with the Sunna. Proceeding to still further lengths, some Muslims assert that in controversial matters, the Sunna overrules the authority of the Koran, but not vice versaall admit the Sunna completes and explains it [the Koran].
Ammyai 3 years ago
i don't care what some Muslims say. I worship God not Muslims. and they are not all like that I believe the majority hold the Qur'an to be more important. if any Muslim holds the Hadith to be the authority he doesn't deserve to be called a Muslim. in Islam Qur'an is final authority, end of story. i am not responsible for any that deviate.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Allah has no daughters.
Allah's "plan of salvation" is that men should worship God alone and do good deeds.
btw you keep using the word "Allah" as a means to distinguish the Qur'an from the Bible. But I already explained to you that "Allah" is not a personal name, it is only Arabic for "The God". An Arabic Christian would say "Allah" when talking about Jesus. They would say Jesus is Allah. or Jesus is The God. So when you are saying "Allah" is a liar you are saying God is a liar. be careful
roxy841991 3 years ago
Explain all you like, "allah" was never the name of the God of the Bible, nor of His Only Begotten, Yahushua.
allah is a great big liar, even the quran calls him the Great Deceiver.
Ammyai 3 years ago
what i'm trying to tell you is that Allah is not a name like Yahushua or whatever is a name. Allah does not equal the God of the Qur'an. it is the Arabic name for God. i'm not talking about God of Qur'an I mean even jews and christians call God Allah in Arabic. so when you say "Allah is a liar" you might as well say "Dios is a liar". Dios is God is Spanish. either way you are saying God is a liarl. it would be safer to say Shaytan is a liar, since you believe he is god of the quran.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Yes shaytan is the god of the quran, alias allah. So it's perfectly correct for me to call allah shaytan, and a liar.
allah was never a real God, only a pretender.
he was an angel in heaven who turned rotten, made war on the Most High, and got kicked out of heaven.
Here on earth the liar has many names, and is in charge of dozens of religions.
Ammyai 3 years ago
Arabic "Al" = "the"
"laah" = "god"
if you want to say The God in Arabic you would say Allah, lit The God.
therefore (you could say) Jesus is THE GOD or Jesus is AL-LAH. if you can't understand this concept then you need to look into the Arabic language. if you translate the Bible into Arabic it will call God ALLAH because that is Arabic form like Dios is Spanish form. if you translate the Bible into Spanish its going to call God Dios.
roxy841991 3 years ago
roxy, "Arabic "Al" = "the"
"laah" = "god""
Yes roxy ;-) in that case why don't we just change the shahada to; there is no allah but allah"
You're wrong! the arabic word for god is "ilah".
And allah is the name of the ilah of the muslims. The same as it was for the pagan arabs before muhammed. It's the very same god too. And if you go and do the haj, you will see the same rituals as the pagan arabs used to do.
Ammyai 3 years ago
Oh my Lord I left out the i! what has the world come to... the letters are many times left out for example "in the name of God" is Bismi Allah but becomes Bismillah. you say Allah is God of Muslims but then say He's God of Pagans? make up your mind.
there is no Allah but Allah would be literally saying "there is no The God but The God." Instead we say laa ilaahah il Allah there is no god but The God or just God in simple english.
roxy841991 3 years ago
I have made my mind up! muslims are pagans.
See how simple it was? muslims are idol worshipping pagans, who worship the rock god of the kabah of the quraish pagan arabs.
You might say that about allah all you like, but he will never be the creator, not in anything but your own minds only.
You might just as well say, "There is no god but this rock". But that rock would still be a rock.
And allah is still the shaytan, the deceiver who got kicked out of heaven.
Ammyai 3 years ago
there is no support for your view. we do not worship the ka'ba we turn towards it. but we do not direct our worship to it nor do we ask it for help or fear it.
Hello you are so paranoid about me because I am Muslim. I'm trying to meet you halfway and say that whoever is in REALITY outside of our dispute is the Creator of the Universe I take as my Lord. There is only one there to worship even according to you.
roxy841991 3 years ago
You would be fine, if you were in fact taking the Creator of the universe as you Lord.
The trouble is that shaytan has created a false religion, made up a new name for himself, and tricked you and a few billion others into believing that he was the Creator.
Nope, allah is not the Creator. The real Creator is Yahuah, and you can discover who He is by reading the Bible.
Ammyai 3 years ago
I have read the Bible. There is some wisdom and truth but also many contradictions and atrocities such as when God commands the Jews to enter into towns and kill everyone including children and pregnant women.
"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." Hosea 13:16
and many other such passages.
roxy841991 3 years ago
" God commands the Jews to enter into towns and kill everyone including children and pregnant women."
Yes this must seem pretty bad, but you need to read the whole story. God has often been talking to those people for hundreds of years, to try to get them to change their ways.
But they refuced, so He had no other way than to take them out.
Those were the people who would sacrifice their own children to false gods.
Yep, repelled against God. there's a price to pay when humans do that.
Ammyai 3 years ago
I have no problem with God punishing the ADULTS who have been sinning. But the children and pregnant women? Don't you believe God is Loving? Or isn't that what you accused the Qur'an of lacking.
roxy841991 3 years ago
I believe God has to make tough decisions sometimes.
Now, I did not read the part of the Scripture lately to which you are referring to. But I do know Yahuah is loving, which is a quality allah totally lacks.
he makes up for his lack of love, by being an expert liar. So he may even pretend to love sometimes.
Ammyai 3 years ago
we believe God is:The All Compassionate,The All Merciful,The Pure One,The Source of Peace,
The Guardian,The Forgiver,The Giver of All,The Sustainer,The Reliever,The Forbearing,The Forgiver and Hider of Faults,The Rewarder of Thankfulness,The Nourisher,The Generous,The LOVING ONE,The Protecting Friend,The Doer of Good,The Guide to Repentance,The Creator of Good,The Patient One
The God you think we follow is the bogeyman. No Muslim follows the God you have described thus far.
roxy841991 3 years ago
"we believe God is:The All Compassionate,The All Merciful,The Pure One,The Source of Peace,
The Guardian,The Forgiver,The Giver of All,The Sustainer,The Reliever,The Forbearing,The Forgiver and Hider of Faults,The Rewarder of Thankfulness,The Nourisher,The Generous,The LOVING ONE,The Protecting Friend,The Doer of Good,The Guide to Repentance,The Creator of Good,The Patient One "
Oh yes! shaytan would make all these claims for himself! he knows what is good, even if he isn't that way himself.
Ammyai 3 years ago
I am not saying there is no god but this rock i'm saying there is no God but the Creator of the Universe whoever that may be. I believe He sent the Qur'an but we still believe in the same God because there is only One. imagine if someone put an idol behind a curtain, and told 3 people to worship it. They don't know what it looks like, one says it has horns, one says it has a tail, one that it has wings. they are still worshiping the same idol but disagree about its appearance.
roxy841991 3 years ago
ALLAH is not the name for God is an Arabic word that means THE GOD. Arabic Christians and Jews call God Allah. If you cannot understand this you are just being stubborn. it is not His name like Zeus is a name. it is a title, THE GOD. If you believe in The One God you should not call him a liar in any language. you are calling God a liar in Arabic. If you say ALLAH is a liar you are also saying God of the Bible is a liar because there is only One God there to call a liar.
roxy841991 3 years ago
and i'm not talking about God of the Qur'an so its time to take the blinders off. i'm saying even if you were right and God of the Bible is the real God it still would not be right to say Allah is a liar. even if I believed Qur'an was from shaytan and Bible was correct, I would never say Allah is a liar because it applies to God no matter your view on Him. this is the last time i'm going to try to explain the Arabic meaning. you are indeed stubborn if you can't understand.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Oh how I wish you would indeed manage to get the blinders off somehow!!!
You and all the other muslims! Then you would clearly see who you worship. he is the filthy shaytaan who you worship.
Ammyai 3 years ago
if you are going to talk about something the quran says, please give the surah and verse.
i am not trying to argue christianity vs islam with you. i just think it is the obligation of all muslims to straighten out misconceptions of our religion. you made several accusations about the quran about what it says or doesn't say and i showed you how you were wrong. but you can believe what you want, as per the Holy Qur'an:
roxy841991 3 years ago
Before you can attempt to straighten out misconception about your religion, you first must remove your own misconceptions. And learn what islam really is.
Ammyai 3 years ago
I have looked pretty deep into Islam read many different translations of the Qur'an and read many Hadiths etc. on the other hand you have said God has daughters, and that He doesn't love. both of these ideas are completely false, baseless, and utterly rejected by the religion of Islam. all you know about Islam is christian propaganda - go ahead try to deny, that would be a lie.
roxy841991 3 years ago
tell me why is it that Christians have such contempt for the religion of Islam. every single video that has anything to do with Islam or Muslim there are Christians or Atheists attacking Islam. where are you on Jewish, Hindu, or Pagan videos? does our seeking to worship God alone without any partners bother you all so much? when in reality there are many similarities between all 3 abrahamic faiths. and yet you call God shaytan with no proof, even though Qur'an says God sent the Torah and Gospels
roxy841991 3 years ago
roxy, "tell me why is it that Christians have such contempt for the religion of Islam."
That's easy! And I have told you already. It is because your god is shaytan. Your religion is false.
islam is a cancerous cult on humankind.
All who follow islam will enter into hell.
If allah sent Torah and the Gospels, why do muslims always claim they are corrupted?
Ammyai 3 years ago
but as a Christian you should also believe Hinduism, Buddhism, etc are from Satan and yet you hardly ever hear a Christian attacking those religions. it's always Islam. and though Jews are mentioned in the bible they still reject Jesus - according to the Bible they are going to Hell yet Christians never denounce them. We don't consider our God Shaytan and our rules and beliefs are not very different from the Bible.
roxy841991 3 years ago
Yes indeed I believe Hinduism, Buddhism, etc are from satan. And don't say we never denounce them, we do!
But islam is the worst, because their unholy book teaches them to take over the entire world by any means necessary. Including violent jihad. And by lying. i.e. islam is a religion of peace lie.
When islam is anything but peace, it is the most violent religion on earth.
So why not almost always islam? It is after all the one trying to kill the rest of us.
Ammyai 3 years ago
Why send me to Hell because I did not believe God was a man or separated into 3 persons. This is a step away from Paganism. God did send Torah and Gospels but the ones we have today are not the originals. this is proven fact. look at all the books left out of the bible by committees and books such as revelations where a random guy had a random dream and said it was scripture. there are so many different versions of the Bible and so many sects. but the Bible still contains some wisdom and truth
roxy841991 3 years ago
Yahuah wanted you to be good, and follow His teachings! But if you refuce to make Him your Lord, if you do Not accept Him and His teachings, then why shouldn't he send you to hell?
That's where all the evil ones belong after all.
And we are all sinners to beging with, and all deserve to go to hell. There is no human being who has never NOT sinned. So the punishment for that is death in the lake of fire.
And only way is to be forgiven by the One true God who gave His live for our sins.
Ammyai 3 years ago
Well I don't believe the One God would teach Paganism lite. I feel a lot more secure betting my eternal fate on worshiping God alone. If all Pagans are going to Hell I am staying as far away from that as possible. My Lord is the Creator of the Heavens and Earth. Whoever that is I take as my Lord. We do not all deserve to go to Hell. God is Most Forgiving. He is the Most Merciful of those who show Mercy. I can forgive but God can't?
roxy841991 3 years ago
Yahuah is always true to His word!
He said, the wages of sin is death. That means that to keep His own word, He has to send every sinner to hell.
However, if that sin is somehow erased, and forgiven, then the way to heaven is open!
Now then, the only way for that sin to be erased is by someone Perfect to give up His life for the sins of many.
And Yahuah Himself came to earth, was known as Yahushua. And He was Perfect! So He was able to lay down His life for our sins!
Ammyai 3 years ago
Well, I don't think He said the wages of sin is death. We believe God can forgive sins on His own without killing Himself first. He forgives anyone who asks for forgiveness. it is the unrepentant sinner who deserves Hell. but if you ask for forgiveness it shows you are still devoted to God and love Him. this is what matters most in the end, not our mistakes. God cannot be man nor can He die. That is my belief.
roxy841991 3 years ago
"God cannot be man nor can He die. That is my belief."
Who are you to tell God what He can do, and what He cannot do? And who are you to decide God cannot enter into His own creation and become a man just like you?
When He became a man, He didn't stop being God! He was 100% man, yet 100% God!
It is a very silly belief that you can tell what God can do, and what not.
Don't you think God has more knowledge, power, and ability to do whatever He wants?
Ammyai 3 years ago
A man cannot be God at the same time. God is Self Sustaining, Perfect, and Eternal. Man is none of these things. I think God could make Himself a man if He wanted to but then He would no longer be God. It's one or the other.
roxy841991 3 years ago
roxy, "A man cannot be God at the same time. God is Self Sustaining, Perfect, and Eternal. Man is none of these things."
I full well know that this is what you believe. But I tell you, you are totally wrong! God can, and He has become a man. He walked on the earth 2000 years ago. And His name was Yahushua.
Even when He became a man, He never stopped being God at the same time!
He left the best part of Himself in heaven! He is omnipotent! Omnipresent! Omniscient too!
Ammyai 3 years ago
God is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient, I agree. But man is none of these things. You say God left these attributes in Heaven? Then God was in Heaven and not on Earth the whole time.
roxy841991 3 years ago
When I said He left the best part of Himself in heaven, I meant that he emptied himself, divested himself of his prestige (glory) and privileges." (Philippians 2:1-11)
He did Not give up the nature of God! Thus He never stopped being God!
He really is omnipresent... this means He can be, and manifest Himself in several places at the same time!
And there is no reason why He couldn't manifest Himself in many different forms.
Ammyai 3 years ago
he emptied himself, divested himself of his prestige (glory) and privileges
then He destroyed Himself and divested Himself of godliness. Omniscience, etc IS THE NATURE of God. If He gave this up, He was no longer God.
God can manifest Himself in several places at the same time. In fact I believe He is manifest in all aspects of creation to a certain extent.
"The East and the West belong to God: wherever you turn, there is His Face. God is all pervading and all knowing." (2:115)
roxy841991 3 years ago
Did you only do what a typical muslim does, even with his quran. Reads it without any real understanding?
I said He emptied Himself of His glory, His prestige, and His privileges.
I did not say He emptied Himself of His Godly nature and attributes. I doubt He'd ever do that. Anyway, this job of living like a human in a perfectly human body did not require that He stops being God.
Ammyai 3 years ago
But a man is not like God. That's what I'm saying. That living like a human by definition is to stop being God.
"I doubt He'd ever do that."
I agree, and that's why I'm not a Christian.
roxy841991 3 years ago
roxy, "But a man is not like God. That's what I'm saying. That living like a human by definition is to stop being God."
That is muslim faulty logic. You cannot tell God what He can do!
God tells you what He can do! Not you to define what God can, may do. The muslim idea of God is that he is like a puppy on leash. And the muslim tells that puppy what he can do, and what he cannot do.
Well, God isn't subject to your faulty reasoning! He is what He wants to be!
Ammyai 3 years ago
that is not faulty logic. rather it is reasoning. reason is a gift God gave us, therefore we should use it. If one understands that God is perfect, limitless, eternal, etc while man is sinful, imperfect, temporary, limited etc you can also reach the safe, reliable conclusion that nothing can be both at the same time. Why would God give us reasoning and expect us not to use it. Give me a break. Can God make a shape that is circle and a square at the same time? not by His own laws.
roxy841991 3 years ago
roxy. ""I doubt He'd ever do that."
I agree, and that's why I'm not a Christian. "
Now you have stooped to taking out of context. Which is a very muslim practice like lying is.
Shame on you! Liar
Ammyai 3 years ago
you said
"I did not say He emptied Himself of His Godly nature and attributes. I doubt He'd ever do that."
but what you fail to realize is that