Beautiful sound. Cedar tops are used in guitars and I've often thought, "Why not violins?" I'm glad to see that there was someone brave enough to try something different. A good Luthier knows that the density of the wood of the soundboard dictates its thickness, not blindly following some old chart. Who ever made this violin did a decent job. Keep building!
@UncleTito72 -- well the entire violin is made of cedar, but overall the violin sounded very warm, throaty and had dark overtones. Not as bright as spruce/maple, i think :)
hi, well, i only get to spend about a minute or two with each instrument, but there are many fine violins in the collection and anything is possible. some of them are on loan to conservatory students and colleges/conservatories, some are loaned to professional violinists for performance and recording, some have been sold and some remain in the collection.
there are some very affordable violins out there, but a very inexpensive violin can be very frustrating to play (and especially frustrating to learn on) because there is some connection between cost and sound quality...but in theory, i agree...everyone should have the chance to play.
this was a beautiful instrument. did you see the chestnut violin and the dutch violin with the dots on the edge? they're my two newest videos and both of these violins are very unusual, beautiful instruments like this cedar violin. really works of art AND musical instrument combined :D
hi, thanks for your comment. these are vintage and antique violins from a large collection; some of them haven't been out of their cases in years...or decades. i just open the boxes, tune them and play the sound sample (usually sightreading from music that's also part of the collection). half the time i don't even look at the strings. they're usually old and worn out. same with things like tuners. some have none, most one :D
Here I was wanting to make a violin out of easter red cedar, wondering if it had been done or how it would sound, and somebody has already done it. It's such a beautiful wood, and you are an amazing player! Thanks for posting this.
ohhh, don't let that stop you...i loved this cedar fiddle. i'll be doing sound samples of violins made out of unusual woods for making violins like walnut, oak, wormy chestnut, and some mixes (like parquet style), etc. also, some experimental violins coming up. ps: my brother who also plays on these sound samples is into archery and thinks it's cool that you make your own arrows :D
Sound travels @ a higher velocity through cedar than spruce, also spruce focuses on the fundamental note more, cedar highlights the over & undertones more. I would like to see someone build a violin with cedar top mahogany neck back & sides, rosewood or cocobolo fingerboard. All these woods are more resonant & amplify the over & undertones more than maple & ebony which both 'dampen' sound.
hi...thanks for the comment...this violin had a very special sound...i heard that someone built a violin out of balsa? i also have a violin that's made out of a specially selected wormy chestnut by a maker who had very similar thoughts to yours. he spent a lifetime looking for just the right amount of worm incursion in the chestnut, then he filled the holes with some kind of concoction of dust and polysomething. the result is one of the most amazingly resonant violins i've ever played :D
Balsa is too light & not dense enough, soundboard woods have to be light yet strong, cedar sounds superior over spruce on all instruments I've heard it on. Ultimate combo is cedar top, African mahogany back & sides, Spanish cedar neck (a lighter mahogany), rosewood fingerboard, The neck actually resonates just enough & aids the soundboard to 'pump' & adds overtones, the back & sides color the notes in a very precise balanced way & creates the loudest instruments I've ever heard.
I would like a walnut back, sides and neck with a cedar top. I have several friends who have this combo and love it. Who made the chest nut fiddle??? Very cool!
i have a violin with a cedar top and walnut sides here in the collection. also another with a walnut back and spruce top and sides that may be a gamba of some kind. I love oddball instruments :D
oh wow, it's been almost a year and a half since i played this violin...i don't remember the makers name. there are a few more in this collection though--one of them is like checkerboard walnut and a light yellow cedar. awsome :D
WOW!!!! AMAZING!!! How long have you been playing? 8th grade? Im in 8th grade!!! Ive been playing for like 5 years but ive only been taking private lessons for about a year. Most middle school violinists i hear have horrible tone. Im glad to say that you are NOT one of those people. GREAT JOB!!!! You should consider auditioning for music camps. There is a great one called Interlochen in Michigan.
I've heard of Interlochen. Have you gone there? I've been playing since 3rd grade--like you, 5 years. But I started with a private teacher in 6th grade. Do you have a video on utube?
Im auditioning for interlochen at the moment. im making my audition CD. When im done i will prolly post it on Youtube. I started private lessons in 7th grade.
I think you're right about the moth damage. The purfling is real...but the rest of the violin throws tradition out the window. It's really a work of art, though. Pretty nice sounding violin, too, but no Grancino. Thanks.
Again, a marvelous performance on a wonderfully different kind of violin? I'm mezmerized by your site! All of these violins and all of your mavelous sound samples. Thank you.
Hi, There are many woods considered traditional to be tonewoods, but the 2 most common are Spruce (used for most violin tops & most guitar tops) and Cedar (frequently for Classical guitar tops.) Many guitar makers prefer Cedar for it's sweeter tones. Cedar resists bug infestation like woodworm (a big problem in violins in Europe). It almost begins to make sense. It's beautiful to look at and sounds nice, don't you think?
I'M. IN. LOVE. WITH. THIS. VIOLIN. :o
TheCracktastic 6 months ago
Beautiful sound. Cedar tops are used in guitars and I've often thought, "Why not violins?" I'm glad to see that there was someone brave enough to try something different. A good Luthier knows that the density of the wood of the soundboard dictates its thickness, not blindly following some old chart. Who ever made this violin did a decent job. Keep building!
1stab 11 months ago
How do you like the cedar top in comparison to the more common spruce top?
UncleTito72 1 year ago
@UncleTito72 -- well the entire violin is made of cedar, but overall the violin sounded very warm, throaty and had dark overtones. Not as bright as spruce/maple, i think :)
eboyinc 1 year ago
It is probably too late to ask this, but I'm just curious if the whole violin is made of cedar or just the top. What are the back and sides made of?
philochristos 1 year ago
impressive for sure.
daniel953122 1 year ago
Great
SuperChojrak 1 year ago
@SuperChojrak -- thanks so much!!!
eboyinc 1 year ago
do you like vanessa mae?
14deathsoul 1 year ago
@14deathsoul -- oh yes...absolutely :D
eboyinc 1 year ago
Beautifull violin! Your music are amazing and You are fantastic ;)
dianeczka1223 2 years ago
That was totally amazing. You're fantastic!!!
CheyenneBassGuitar 2 years ago 4
whoa...thanks so much :D
eboyinc 2 years ago
hi, well, i only get to spend about a minute or two with each instrument, but there are many fine violins in the collection and anything is possible. some of them are on loan to conservatory students and colleges/conservatories, some are loaned to professional violinists for performance and recording, some have been sold and some remain in the collection.
eboyinc 2 years ago
did u take private class for violin?
JRAUSTIN94 2 years ago
i started playing in elementary school in a group class, and after about a year i started studying with a private teacher :D
eboyinc 2 years ago
how long did it took you to play that amazing!!! :D
JRAUSTIN94 2 years ago
can someone please sell a violin that is so cheap it would make the dollar store apoligize? I ould so totally buy one. Like $50-$75
sugarsugarrunelover 2 years ago
there are some very affordable violins out there, but a very inexpensive violin can be very frustrating to play (and especially frustrating to learn on) because there is some connection between cost and sound quality...but in theory, i agree...everyone should have the chance to play.
eboyinc 2 years ago
holy shit
HersheyTM 2 years ago
i did this video almost 2 years ago...i absolutely loved this concerto...still do :D
eboyinc 2 years ago
Wow! that's a beautiful instrument there .How much?
Killaduck07 2 years ago
it's really an amazing violin...one of a kind, i think. it was part of a huge collection of violins--as for it's value, i have no idea :D
eboyinc 2 years ago
wow such a pretty violin. I wish mine was like that
gongzee 3 years ago
this was a beautiful instrument. did you see the chestnut violin and the dutch violin with the dots on the edge? they're my two newest videos and both of these violins are very unusual, beautiful instruments like this cedar violin. really works of art AND musical instrument combined :D
eboyinc 3 years ago
Yes, the chestnut one was especially beautiful!
gongzee 3 years ago
Nice!
I am doing a GuitarViol in Koa and Cedar.
Let's see what happens...
I actually have used Euro Spruce and Maple and it was just too damn dense for my desired response.
GuitarViols 3 years ago
Hey there. I loved your excerpt. May I ask if those are synthetic strings? I noticed you have only two fine tuning pegs.
naterc93 3 years ago
hi, thanks for your comment. these are vintage and antique violins from a large collection; some of them haven't been out of their cases in years...or decades. i just open the boxes, tune them and play the sound sample (usually sightreading from music that's also part of the collection). half the time i don't even look at the strings. they're usually old and worn out. same with things like tuners. some have none, most one :D
eboyinc 3 years ago
Here I was wanting to make a violin out of easter red cedar, wondering if it had been done or how it would sound, and somebody has already done it. It's such a beautiful wood, and you are an amazing player! Thanks for posting this.
philochristos 3 years ago
ohhh, don't let that stop you...i loved this cedar fiddle. i'll be doing sound samples of violins made out of unusual woods for making violins like walnut, oak, wormy chestnut, and some mixes (like parquet style), etc. also, some experimental violins coming up. ps: my brother who also plays on these sound samples is into archery and thinks it's cool that you make your own arrows :D
eboyinc 3 years ago
Sound travels @ a higher velocity through cedar than spruce, also spruce focuses on the fundamental note more, cedar highlights the over & undertones more. I would like to see someone build a violin with cedar top mahogany neck back & sides, rosewood or cocobolo fingerboard. All these woods are more resonant & amplify the over & undertones more than maple & ebony which both 'dampen' sound.
asherasator 3 years ago
hi...thanks for the comment...this violin had a very special sound...i heard that someone built a violin out of balsa? i also have a violin that's made out of a specially selected wormy chestnut by a maker who had very similar thoughts to yours. he spent a lifetime looking for just the right amount of worm incursion in the chestnut, then he filled the holes with some kind of concoction of dust and polysomething. the result is one of the most amazingly resonant violins i've ever played :D
eboyinc 3 years ago
Balsa is too light & not dense enough, soundboard woods have to be light yet strong, cedar sounds superior over spruce on all instruments I've heard it on. Ultimate combo is cedar top, African mahogany back & sides, Spanish cedar neck (a lighter mahogany), rosewood fingerboard, The neck actually resonates just enough & aids the soundboard to 'pump' & adds overtones, the back & sides color the notes in a very precise balanced way & creates the loudest instruments I've ever heard.
asherasator 3 years ago
interesting...do you make instruments? you know alot about the woods and their sound properties :D
eboyinc 3 years ago
No I don't make them but I've had instruments made for me.
asherasator 3 years ago
I would like a walnut back, sides and neck with a cedar top. I have several friends who have this combo and love it. Who made the chest nut fiddle??? Very cool!
jeffmenzies 3 years ago
i have a violin with a cedar top and walnut sides here in the collection. also another with a walnut back and spruce top and sides that may be a gamba of some kind. I love oddball instruments :D
eboyinc 3 years ago
Who made these instruments? I would like to find someone to make me such a fiddle. Do you have any pics of these instruments?
jeffmenzies 3 years ago
oh wow, it's been almost a year and a half since i played this violin...i don't remember the makers name. there are a few more in this collection though--one of them is like checkerboard walnut and a light yellow cedar. awsome :D
eboyinc 3 years ago
thanks so much :D
eboyinc 3 years ago
Brilliant! Nice violin!
I was wondering how do you know that your violin is good quality?
Snogbog25 3 years ago
thanks...its extraordinary...i don't know it's original cost, but i'm sure your right...very rare, too :D
eboyinc 3 years ago
That is a GORGEOUS violin! I love the lines around the sides.
Starlysh 4 years ago
Hi...I loved this violin, too...It was a special instrument in every way...thanks :D
eboyinc 4 years ago
The lines are typical of Maggini
AytidaRed 3 years ago
WOW!!!! AMAZING!!! How long have you been playing? 8th grade? Im in 8th grade!!! Ive been playing for like 5 years but ive only been taking private lessons for about a year. Most middle school violinists i hear have horrible tone. Im glad to say that you are NOT one of those people. GREAT JOB!!!! You should consider auditioning for music camps. There is a great one called Interlochen in Michigan.
C ya!!
~danny~
danielcarrol12 4 years ago
I've heard of Interlochen. Have you gone there? I've been playing since 3rd grade--like you, 5 years. But I started with a private teacher in 6th grade. Do you have a video on utube?
eboyinc 4 years ago
Im auditioning for interlochen at the moment. im making my audition CD. When im done i will prolly post it on Youtube. I started private lessons in 7th grade.
c ya!!
danielcarrol12 4 years ago
Hi, thanks for the compliment. What pieces are you working on? This Cedar violin was really pretty. Sounded great, too.
Beatlesfannumerouno 4 years ago
I think you're right about the moth damage. The purfling is real...but the rest of the violin throws tradition out the window. It's really a work of art, though. Pretty nice sounding violin, too, but no Grancino. Thanks.
eboyinc 4 years ago
What type of violin is that?
xivoryviolinist 4 years ago
Thrilling performance. Wow, you're very good!
SanJosefiddler 4 years ago
Beautiful. You're a fine violinist!
Creutin 4 years ago
I've never seen a cedar violin. It's interesting. You play fantastic. You look young, are your a professional musician?
Frenchviolins 4 years ago
Again, a marvelous performance on a wonderfully different kind of violin? I'm mezmerized by your site! All of these violins and all of your mavelous sound samples. Thank you.
ViolinistProf 4 years ago
Wow, you play like a god! Nice violin!!!
VictheCop 4 years ago
Thank you so much!
VictheCop 4 years ago
Hi, There are many woods considered traditional to be tonewoods, but the 2 most common are Spruce (used for most violin tops & most guitar tops) and Cedar (frequently for Classical guitar tops.) Many guitar makers prefer Cedar for it's sweeter tones. Cedar resists bug infestation like woodworm (a big problem in violins in Europe). It almost begins to make sense. It's beautiful to look at and sounds nice, don't you think?
eboyinc 4 years ago