Pentjak Silat Hardcore Underground Training - Part I

[adc8317]

mengarut la sume nih..mana ada islam ajar latihan peperangan mcm nih..latihan mcm ni sesuai untuk org yg bsedia nk msuk neraka..haha

[clf213]

love cooking :)

[nmmmm187]

FRENCH FRISE ??

[MultiWarmachine]

5 stars is historic.

[hasyimabdurrahim]

gila latihan apa ini, pasti pakai ilmu jin dan setan ingat ! "sebaik-baik jin sejahat-jahat manusia" anak kecil jagan ikuti ini ok

[DivineNatureAwakens]

They poured extra on that third guy and when he moved too much I guess they decided he needed some more! Then it looks like he ran saying: "Enough with this shit let go of me!" =)

[AriArdi]

why not pour it on their dick.... ha ha ha ha

[koboi5]

muay thai training teruk sikit dari nie,itu pasal fizikal diorang kuat,kita org melayu nak buat sikit benda2 mcm ni dah kena kutuk.

[Diawanbiru]

sapa suruh taksub,angkuh dan training yang tak berguna dan tak masuk akal...=)

kan dah kena tempeleng....

[koboi5]

hehehe..

[brucelhh]

They're boiling some kind of oil called Gamak.. It's a medicine, although it boiled but it doesnt hurt you but healing you.

[yosefalan]

...looks like it hurts them!

[PARIDE1982]

mad...

[morote123]

...they are so smart

[jaquino]

damn whyyyyyy???... the little one did not have time to charge the chi!!!! and the master keeps pouring the shit on him!!! damn!!!

[daedolos]

They kept picking on him because he was showing signs of pain. So sad. I'll skip this day of training.

Peace

@_*

[diegoverzola]

@daedolos i will never return

[ZorroZaaim]

yo btol tu kefp...ni amlan yg mmg pelik...mcam kena rsuk jerk org2 diaa tu...x ker brdosa bermain2 dgn makhluk halus ni.....

[keyokebab]

alo bro2 yg taksub..ni bkn ujian,..ni nk siksa org lor...xperlu nk mandi ngn minyak panas kalo nk tunjuk ilmu hingga abis bdn terbakar...org2 dulu yg bnyk ilmu xde pom wat mende ni..aku da tnye dah...yg tok guru pon pkai tongkat,asl xsimbah je kat bdn tok guru 2 dulu test tngk...xpayah taksub la sngt..aku dsa 10 tahun main silat ni..

[alpharicky77]

bruce lee died bcoz of 'vernomous ' fist after a fair fight with 1 of de silat master from malaysia THATS A FACT!!he suffered a few days n die in de toilet at his house in hong kong! you can read in newspaper published in malaysia years ago!do some research n you ll  get de answer!in order 2 find de real master in world of martial art after he fought wit 1 of muay thai legend, lee continue his journey 2 malaysia n from there he found 'the man'!witout knowing dat will be de last fight 4 him!

[inycxjp]

bruce lee suffered from a cerebral edema (Swelling of the brain)

no type of injury can cause this, this is an internal suffering.

where did u find your information on him dying from the fight? Please state ur resources then i can look into otherwise stop wasting time

[shafik88]

This is from Mahaguru Omar Din

Im one of Silat Lincah members.

[MDIS]

This style of the old martial traditions were actually from Gayong Pasak School of Budo or Martial Traditions.

Most of what being practiced are not of Islamic nor Muslim way as what is shown is clearly a spiritual or demonic act. Islam does not need nor wants its warriors to be tortured and mutilated as that is more prevalent in a more Hindu-istic ritual which is 7000 years old.

This clearly shows how the indian culture and faith influenced the pre-war malays of yester years.

[Heriopasu]

Till has a very distinguishable voice.

[diegoverzola]

Eu gostaria de saber o que é isto que eles fervem, parece uma resina, parece que é até tradição, tem um vídeo que os pais levam os filhos pra colocar a mãozinha na panela fervendo e esparramar pelo corpo comoc fosse um creme e todos fazem isto desde o mais novo ao mais velho.

Vendo esta cena familiar de respeito por um costume ou rito (ou um algo assim) me deu até vontade de fazer tb.

[diegoverzola]

Em um vídeo caseiro, um praticante cria uma espécie de campo de força em volta dele na distância de mais ou menos um braço, usando sua energia interna.

[diegoverzola]

Pô meu este vídeo é o bicho! De fato estes praticantes desenvolvem uma força física e energética muito grande (nas partes 3 e 4 uns entram em transe, outros emcorporam). Na história das artes marciais sempre há relatos de determinadas "penitências" que o caboquim tinha que passar pra poder ter acesso a determinados conhecimentos aê, eles se propuseram em serem submetidos assim, afim de demonstrar merecimento e empenho.

[adiahamza]

aku cadangkan korang sume tgk dulu sambungan video ni. dlm bahagian 3 ada perempuan tak pakai tudung tgh diuji. walaupon dia brzikir tp kalau fardhu ain pon tak ikut tak jadi. sapalah aku untuk kata org lain sesat ke tak, tp kalau dah terang2 melanggar hukum islam, kita toloak je bulat2.

[adnin30]

ni e omardin mamak...

jalan tempang,tapi kate mahaguru....

poyo lebeh la...

[jenggo07]

bunch of lunatics... n why did dis video in chinese...i cant understand it..wish there were subtitle or smtg....

[ggk21]

Documentary for Hong Kong TV

[psslm]

aku pun tak tau nak cakap apa kat densapo ni... malaysia ada jabatan agama dan setiap silat di pantau oleh jabatan agama.. kalau ilmu ni ilmu sesat dah lama kena tutup...

[kefp]

ko lom kenal Islam lg la psslm..ko ksi email ko, aku send ceramah ismail kamus psl jin..

barang siapa memakai tangkal dan azimat, Allah tidak akan sempurnakan agamanya..

[densapo]

mamat tu baca ape tu. mentera pnggil jin ke. jin islam hadhari kut. klau trjadi ape2 malaikat maut cabut nyawa masa tu mati sia2 je. aku prnh tnya guru lincah msa sek. dulu msa mla blja lincah ni. Byk yg dia tak blh jwp. aku tnya mentera yg dia bg kat tu ape maknanya. mana buleh main terima je. dia maki aku lg ada. jgn tanya ikut je. Kepala otak dia. ilmu batin kunun porah....

[mizthickgurl]

Hey does any1 kno where i can get the song that's playin? It sounds good. Thanx

[gxam]

That's from the german band "Rammstein" ... the song's name is "Engel", it's from the album "Sehnsucht".

[mizthickgurl]

Thanx. And also can this song be found in the U.S?

[mizthickgurl]

So fuckin painful ouch. I couldn't have taken that

[KonohasBlackFlash]

AAAAAHHhHHH!! WTFF!!

[vulgazler]

hmmm...suma martial art tak berguna kalau x guna akal...ambik iktibar dari sejarah... Barat datang bawa meriam jer, settle...mana pergi pencipta2 silat atuknenek kita tu? napa tak jentik balik peluru? Sapa ler kita ni berbanding ngan moyang2 tu..pikir sendiri ler..akal dan amalan lebih utama..setakat budak2 persatuan sekolah yg main tolak2 kat tangga, pergi rilek hujung padang..tembak kang baru tau hehehe..

[amatwolf]

vulgazler, memang betul kena guna akal, belajar teknologi dan belajar dari sejarah. tetapi latihan seumpama ini walaupun nampak mistik, ia menguji ketahanan mental dan fizikal lalu membentuk disiplin. ini kerana kaedah peperangan nenek moyang kita di nusantara dahulu lebih kepada skill individu (ilmu persilatan) tampa bimbingan pakar stratergi dari seorang general, berbeza dari kaedah perperangan barat, china atau arab.

[terusmata]

you all perasan tak, kalau mandi minyak di gelanggang tak jadi apa-apa, tapi kena minyak goreng ikan kat rumah sampai terlompat-lompat sakit. Pasal minyak di gelanggang itu dah ditawarkan. Bukan ditawarkan dengan apa-apa bacaan ayat tapi dengan cuka. Cuba buat sendiri. Pastikan 1/3 bahagian adalah cuka dan panaskan. Bila dah mendidih, cuba sentuh minyak tu.Walaupun nampak mendidih tapi sebenarnya tak panas sangat.:-)

[demss017]

terusmata ko jangan cakap camtu omardin tu idup lagi.ko boleh tanye dia atau waris dia.panas ke tidak minyak tu.kenape le nak peleceh kepandaian orang lain.

[terusmata]

saya dah tahu, nak tanya mahaguru omardin buat apa lagi. sedara yang tak tahu la pergi tanya.

[antiracism10]

terusmata ko memang 100% betul..kawan silat aku pun dah bagitau rahsia dia..

[psslm]

mohdsafri89 jgn dok sembang ni bukan main2 celup jer cam ang kata tu ni org simbah mandi terus ni ang ingat cam main2 celup ker cam satu silat tu sapa pun leh buat :D

[psslm]

tuhan tu maha pengasih maha penyayang dan maha memberi... kalau kita minta tak luka dari senjata dengan niat baik insyallah tak luka macam pendekar2 dulu juga. Pada pendapat saya para sahabat dulu banyak yg minta mati syahid dah bukan kebal sebab tu ramai yg mati syahid kalau dah minta kebal pun inysallah dapat sebab menegakkan islam tapi kalu dah kebal cam mana plak nak mati syahid?

[jessevoidable]

Very clever. It's a completely different mindset. They wish for death whenever they wage a battle or war. But, nowadays they would be called fanatics.

[psslm]

tuhan tu maha pengasih maha penyayang dan maha memberi... kalau kita minta tak luka dari senjata dengan niat baik insyallah tak luka macam pendekar2 dulu juga. Pada pendapat saya para sahabat dulu banyak yg minta mati syahid dah bukan kebal sebab tu ramai yg mati syahid kalau dah minta kebal pun inysallah dapat sebab menegakkan islam tapi kalu dah kebal cam mana plak nak mati syahid?

[zintorento]

lol

[nyghty0007]

spiritul deasupra trupului

[antiracism10]

kalau melayu rasa dah kuat sangat..tak payah pergi jauh-jauh...pergi je dekat thailand..lawan dengan orang-orang tomoi atau muay thai dekat sana..mula-mula sekali tunjuk sifat perkauman orang melayu yang tebal tu pada non-malay bernama thai..pergi la ejek dan ludah diorang..muahaha..tengok ape akan jadi..

[demss017]

ape pasal suruh kacau orang thai. ko yang komen bukan orang thai yang komen.orang melayu hormat sama orang lain bangsa ko aje kurang ajar.tapi ko tu penakut.tak payah nak beselindung dengan orang lain.

[antiracism10]

dalam banyak-banyak martial art..orang silat yang selalu tak berdisiplin,kutuk martial art lain..dengan mata kepala sendiri aku tengok budak silat tolak budak karate dari atas tangga..lepas tu bila silat dah tak laku..diorang claim..bruce lee mati sebab silat..aku memang lemah pun..aku tau kau tu kuat..aku cabar kau pergi lawan dengan ken shamrock ke,fedor emelianko ke,liu hailong,buakwaw pramuk,atau pun cakap banyak sangat pergi lawan dengan askar malaysia Tempur tanpa senjata.=) regars,,,

[demss017]

susah jugak cakap ngan orang yg tak reti bahse cam ko ni.ko suruh aku lawan sesapa tu tadi, apele sebab ko nak kaitkan diorang tu pulak.aku ni bukan juara ke ape ke.kalu diorang lanyak aku pun tak buktikan ape2 pun.aku bukan dan tak layak utk mewakili silat tapi ko tu pegi kutuk org ngape.ko tak reti duduk diam2.ukur baju dibadan sendiri.

[yOnzpg]

erm

[antiracism10]

aku tarik balik comment aku...sorry ok...

[MohdSafri89]

mana ada panas...aku dah pernah mandi dah ...rahsia dia ambik minyak yang bahagian atas tu sahaja..cuma rasa suam...ambik bahagian bawah naya!!....the secret it take the most top oil...dont the most below!..how do i noe..i belajar silat too..

[carbonlaminate]

At least they didn't vote for Bush.

[Omnickh]

LOL this art is fucking bullshit

[HermannTheGreat]

Uhh, these guys fought in wars. This was to help deaden the nerves, they needed to do this to become strong mentally and physically for what they would face in the jungle fighting.

[jinbesar]

just one word to describe this = syirik

deviates from the teachings of islam

[koboi9]

cuba ko explain..

[ameida02]

salam...Huhuhu saya sokong cadangan badrul 2...tau sedap becakap jekr...kalo nak tau betul ker tak...join dulu..cakap yang salah boleh menimbolkan fitnah...dah la dapt dosa..Ok pk balik per yang anda cakapkan...wasalam

[apahal9]

alahai en.badrul yg baik hati tk atas nasihat anda,tp apepun dgn puak2 ni dh x blh gune bhsa baik sbbnya depa ni hampir semuanya mmg melayu haprak+mangkuk ayun+bangang dok agung2kan mamak sekor ni,baik guna bhsa lagu ni drpd depa semua x sdr2 sampai mampuih!insafla ahli lincah igtlah hanya ALLAH yg maha berkuasa bknnya mamak bendahara

[RealBadrul]

Muzik latar kurang sesuai. (Background music not appropriate).

[apahal9]

apela punye mangkuk ayun+tolol+bahalol+babi+sial+k­esemua perkataan yg buruk utk budak2+mamak silat lincah ni,yg hangpa pi percaye sgt kt mamak kaki betina ni wtpa,dia dh masuk pulau jerejak pun xkn hangpa xtau,nila org kata bodo piang berkarat x reti nak pikiaq...sesat smpi kiamat la hangpa kalu dok ikut dia..pi mampuihla sama lincah

[RealBadrul]

apahal9, dari bahasa awak ni yg 'sopan santun' ni, saya rasa awak orang Utara (Malaysia). Jangan tengok dari sudut negatif saja, tengok dari sudut positif juga. Saya orang utara (Kedah), bukan orang silat lincah tp bahasa yg awak guna ni kurang manis. Tak payahlah dok sibuk hukum orang lain sesat, kita sendiri pun tak tau nak dok tang mana lagi. Mungkin awak tak setuju apa yg saya tulis ni tp terpulanglah. Setuju atau tidak saya tak rugi satu sen pun. saya sekadar bagi pandangan. Wallahua'lam.

[JamesCAnderson]

those guys were being torcherd they wernt ready for that yet they didnt have the right kind of traing not enuogh CHI who ever made them do that is an asshole

[lordrommel]

extreme sensual massage....m2m style :D

[syariqie]

This is Silat Lincah Malaysia, and the man with the walking stick is the Mahaguru

[kbzonk]

Rayos los indues si que son violentos. Prefiero peliar contra un toro a que me hechen aseite caliente.

[mojamadabdula]

No son hindues, son musulmanes. Tiene que ver con el poder de la mente y energía interna (chi) más la fe en Dios.

[mikeacap]

Cina sengal...pengecut(coward)..!!!­

[Nederweed]

Itu namanya kebatinan.....sama kebal

[Safri89]

KEsian lah dia!!..i,m so pity!! wow! yes!..old people malay is warrior!wow....but,i,m very pity la! kesian yang sorang tu!..panas tu! nak lari tu!..mesti melecur...

[fieldshaver]

Itu baru baru sedikit rasa kepanasan di dunia ini. Bagaimanakah agaknya kita hendak menanggung dan menahan kepanasan yang sebenarnya di alam akhirat nanti sekiranya kita tergolong dalam orang-orang yang tidak mendapat keredhaan Allah. Mudah-mudahan kita dijauhkan dari merasai kepanasan yang sebenar-benarnya itu. Amin.

[dfgggg]

this can kill...

[kutai69]

no komen lah..masing2 cara..aku mandi minyak lain sikit caranya

[aboy5469]

this is true k..yang xthn 2 sebab dia da lggr pantang

[467kamagong]

these people think they are something but in reality they are nothing. they try to immitate superman!! stupid!! superman is a fiction! these people watch to much t.v.

[madrugadaan]

Mind over matter? If they should resist the pain or whatever, they didn't succeed. Stupid!!!

[hyidroizs]

it's the test of the mind u dumshits...mind over mater...

[kingkongbig]

stupid thing to do? You also want do it? ha ah aha ha . for what? Better study, read book and go to university. Or doing business.

[ahukom]

This film documentary is "Selangkah ke Alam Batin" by Seni Silat Lincah Malaysia in 1980's

[JER6229]

some people said that bruce lee was killed in a fair fight by a silat master from malaysia,but some said that he was killed by dicky zulkarnain(an indonesian silat master and actor).well,nobody knows the truth......

[skytte71]

That is probably one of the most dramatic and doubt full theories, I have ever heard, evolving the death of Bruce Lee.

The most reliable story about the circumstances of Bruce Lee´s death is this one:

Bruce Lee died during the recordings of the movie: Game of death. On July 20, 1973

[skytte71]

That is probably one of the most dramatic and doubt full theories, I have ever heard, evolving the death of Bruce Lee.

The most reliable story about the circumstances of Bruce Lee´s death is this one:

Bruce Lee died during the recordings of the movie: Game of death. On July 20, 1973

[skytte71]

On July 20, 1973, Lee was in Hong Kong, due to have dinner with former James Bond star George Lazenby, with whom he intended to make a film. According to Lee's wife Linda, Lee met producer Raymond Chow at 2 p.m. at home to discuss the making of the movie Game of Death.

[skytte71]

They worked until 4 p.m. and then drove together to the home of Lee's colleague Betty Ting Pei, a Taiwanese actress who was to have a leading role in the film. The three went over the script at her home, and then Chow left to attend a dinner meeting.

[skytte71]

A short time later, Lee complained of a headache, and Ting Pei gave him an analgesic. At around 7:30 p.m., he laid down for a nap. After Lee did not turn up for dinner, Chow came to the apartment but could not wake Lee up.

[skytte71]

A doctor was summoned, who spent ten minutes attempting to revive him before sending him by ambulance to Queen Elizabeth Hospital. However, Lee was dead by the time he reached the hospital.

[skytte71]

There was no visible external injury; however, his brain had swollen considerably, from 1,400 to 1,575 grams (13%). Lee was thirty-two years old. On October 15, 2005, Chow stated in an interview that Lee was allergic to Equagesic. When the doctors announced Bruce Lee's death officially, it was coined as "Death by Misadventure."

[skytte71]

Another theory is that he died from an allergic reaction to marijuana, which he was consuming at the time in hashish form. [20]. This is controversial, but it is confirmed that the coroner did find traces of the substance during his autopsy.

[skytte71]

However, the exact details of Lee's death are controversial. Bruce Lee's iconic status and unusual death at a young age led many people to develop many theories about his death.

Peace :-)

[mancunianforever]

dicky zulkarnain has already denied the allegations, publicly. so. i think its untrue. theres another story, in which states he fought meor abdul rahman. but stil to me. i dun think its true too. u know how malays love making up stories.

[jessevoidable]

Rubbish. Bruce died after he had a duel with Bajie. It was a closed-door duel.

[mancunianforever]

haha. another martial art freak. you actually believe everythin you hear aite?

[alpharique]

malay silat rocks!

[jeri102]

gila.menyeksa diri sendiri.islam tak suruh pon wat kerja camni.

[mancunianforever]

hehe. btul. sokong.

[jinbesar]

true

islam advocates the protection of one's body and soul

pouring hot oil on is self torture

self torture = Sin

[spermin8r]

Why post this where kids can watch this...

Can you imagine that some 8-12 year old kids are going to try this at home...

Pour boiling oil on their friends...

60º C /140º F is going to get them badly burned...

Imaging them taking Frieing oil in the wood and copy this...

THINK BEFORE YOU POST !!!

[pptine]

don't you mean 'imagine some poor kid who doesn't have responsible parents that teach him hot oil burns and some people are stupid in this world and you can find em on youtube? if you have kids i bet they're retarded.

[spermin8r]

Yes my son, I fucked some Ozzy sheep 20 years ago... I'm sorry that you look like your mother : (

[tokapi]

like they always said, "don't play play with malay silat.." :)

[mancunianforever]

hehe. sampah.

[Cimande83]

yea.. coming from a sampah like you also.

[mancunianforever]

relax..its ok to be obsessed wit silat. u can rant all u want. to me, silat is shite. hehe. batin2 anjing.

[fatmelonn]

los filipinos pa aweonaos!!!! jajaja el flaco al final apreto cachete

[ontonetwork]

porco DDio, questi son da rinchiudere

[kungfuman82]

THIS IS THE WORST MASSSAGE EVER!  Seriously, this is some crazy shit.

[Cimande83]

thats biased. if shaolin people can do this why not silat? we are just showing you our rendition of chi

[kungfuman82]

It wasn't an insult moron. Pouring boiling oil on yourself, not matter your martial style or nationality, is crazy shit.

[shirocici]

itulah kelebihan islam..

[jinbesar]

part mane kelebihan islam?

simbah badan ngan minyak panas pastuh baca mentera karut?

agak lari konsep islam brader

[harisworks]

insane, making of human bombs 1.

[coldwatch]

harisworks, all you have to do now is send them your home address :D

[DrTerriBol]

infuckinsaneinthemembrane

[hans89]

nice tits on the one guy

[delthem]

Utile contre un type armé d'

une fritteuse...

[Rajahkali9]

this is straight psycho karate

[kahyan93]

they are stupid..shaolin monk can defeat them...

[sharifaie4e]

no shaolin monk cannot defeat them.even bruce lee one be defeated by malay master

[arnoldhwang]

Explain. Bruce Lee defeated by a malaysian master?

[sharifaie4e]

not but indo malay master

the same silat from malaysia

every malay kow the silat but me just use gun ahakkkhh

[antiracism10]

malay is weak...they are big jealous people in this world..they cannot see others people more success...thats why they claim bruce lee defeated by them n also claim that 5 ancient warrior from china is malay for example hang tuah...thats why god anger at them and they r still weak n stupid untill now..

[kefp]

antiracism..lu mau cuba ka? momantai anytime anywhere...

[UnseenEyez]

antiracism10: You're speaking gibberish. Why don't you guys stop boasting Bruce Lee's ego and grasp the idea that he's dead? Martial arts isn't about one style being better then the other, it's about effectiveness. No one is smarter then the other by the way, this isn't a place for racism, antiracism10!

[demss017]

u are wise. a learned person shall behave as what u have stated.every arts have their own technique and philosophy. appreciate what other people can and know, maybe we can learn something .

[mancunianforever]

the stories were not confirmed true. so dont live in uncertainty.

[antiracism10]

tak ada bukti lupakan la...cakap besar=budaya melayu...hormat menghormati=ajaran islam...kalau dah kuat sangat pergi la lawan dengan fedor ke..liu hailong ke...

[infinitehate]

ur name is antiracism, but u r being racist.. i have to admit, the people in these videos are stupid, but that doesnt mean all malays are dumb..

[mancunianforever]

n shaolin monkey can defeat shaolin monk.

[Caswey]

Man this is NUTS!!!

[StNige]

Well at least I enjoyed the music...

[ahgongkia]

nope diz iz true..c the part 2, 3..diz happen in my hometown at malaysia..i c them train..jumpin frm 3 storeys of building n not die..diz was 50 years ago..nw the government ban all these practice..

[Tango965]

can u please tell me what the point of all this? ini macam ilmu batin ke? saya ader dgr doing mengucap time sikudut(3rd person) kena minyak panas. abeh kalau itu minyak panas kenapa diorang tak melecur?

tolong eh jawab. thanks

[zaininoordin]

the melecur does not happen immediately ... pastu memang melecur ...

[Cimande83]

can u please tell me what the point of all this?

Uji ketahanan

ini macam ilmu batin ke?

yes.. kalau tak tau gi blaja silat

abeh kalau itu minyak panas kenapa diorang tak melecur?

zikrullah can do wonders

[delnemorio]

FUCK THAT

[Rabebaikal]

...und dann auch noch Rammstein. Wer hat das hier reingestellt, ein 15jähriger?

[jaquino]

hmmm, many different cultures... in my country we rather use hot oil to fry potatoes

[bondr0072]

Hm they should drink some while they are at it.

[tenuke]

so.. you are saying that water does not get hot while the oil does..

[samrit]

the oil is not hot..this is the trick...the oil iis only on the surface and below it was pure water..its hot but not going to burn ur skin

[Cimande83]

try heat oil and water together... then PM me

[jessevoidable]

You're really "smart", bro :)

[daedolos]

Yeah... there's trickery there but boiling water is 100 degrees centigrade. It will still burn skin.

Peace

@_*

[indojantan]

STUPID

[Daninkorea]

and then a jiu jitsu guy comes up and puts you in a choke hold and you die. So much for the gay oil massage~

[godzilabholopoliater]

They're crazy I will never do that! OUCH!

[nyairorokidul2000]

poor tree!!!!

[bwdillon06]

thats rather pointless.

[strizzuth]

OMFG that's insane! What's up with the ID&T logo at the beginning though?