For me The Pleasure Principle was probably the most "machine" of his albums.
Telekon had a beautiful science fiction esque aura mixed with G.Numans patented "machine" sound.fav alb
Dance was truly a hidden treasure for me as it saw a new style by Numan with a more jazzy feeling, but fresh and familiar enough for me to appreciate it's wonder and creativity.
I didn't like all the songs on The Fury but it had some really wonderful ones like "Miracles" and "Your Fascination". Hidden treasures again
Personally, I am not a fan of Gary Numans "new dark sound". To me, it has none of the deep layers of intricate emotion as his earlier albums had which illustrated a beautiful marriage of sci-fi/sorrow/sarcasm/hurt/isolation and the occasional dash of optimism blanketed in the thick fog of lonliness and even over-saturated feelings crafted by Gary Numan. Now this is just my opinion, but I wish Gary would draw from his earlier works (not necessarily redo) to create something great once again.
@themanonthestair You are absolutely right.The man is really underapreciated especially his "newer" material,which is damn good,i hate it that he doesnt have the following in the States,it is a shame
When he says "you kind of invented the synth sound," you can tell Gary was about to disagree with him, but he didn't really give him a chance to respond.
has much as I love Numan,he allways plays down the impacked the polymoog had on he's music,the only reason every one wants a polymoog 280A now is to get the Vox humana sound he made is own.
I think the synth that lying around in the studio that Gary Numan was in could have been originally Jools Holland's synth that was sent for repair work! ;)
Calm down kiddies. he made it quite clear that he didnt want to do another nostalgic album tour, i can remember going on his website and reading the fact that he wouldnt do something like that again. next thing I know hes playing a one off Pleas prin gig, and has decided to turn it into a tour, its purely financial, i think if he was minted he just wouldnt bother.
LordaRSEHAT DON'T TALK SHITE!!!! biggest night for a long time was his 50th birthday in manchester, replicas tour, i was there, fucking great night!! you stupid cunt!! dont talk bout stuff you dont know about, fukin prick, get a life, get a job and fuck off of here!!!
some people are never satisfied. gary does album tours so we get to hear the old songs and then does a general tour so we hear the new material and he promotes his new album. Maybe he should do a 24hr gig so he can play all his material.....
I don't really understand what hes doing, and havent for ages. Trying to get back in the mainstream with largely rubbish albums post Berserker. Then getting name checked and becoming increasingly popluar, but rather than do his own thing, he has started making music that sounds like the bands name checking him and not the other way around. The replicas tour was a one off and he didnt like nostalgia, so now hes doing another nostalgia tour.
I presume this all comes down to money , whilst doing the heavier sounding stuff that he enjoys. Ive always found his comments rather contradicotry, i cant put my finger on this, i see an interview and think, "ahh, thats not right."
He used to slag off his old material, but for the last four years or so he has been making most of his money doing the album tours, and from what he has sadi he has loved playing th eold songs again, so maybe he's not quite as bad as you all seem to think.
Why does he insist on wearing that stupid Wig ???? Im a fan, but he looks a Twat with it on....it looks like he's strapped a dead cat onto his head !!!!
Yeah, I've got my serious doubts about that. I know he's had transplants in the 1980s but this hair is much too dense to be his own. For once, he's not telling the truth. Look at pictures of Lyle Menendez. Same style, same thickness and it turned out to be a wig. When you look at pictures from Dream Corrosion, all of a sudden he has this mound of hair on his head. He needs to better maintain it for sure as it does look rather silly.
No pun intended (well perhaps it is intended) but I think it's all part of a massive cover-up. He's banking on his past honesty about transplants to pass this one off as another surgery. Still think it is too dense to be his own.
guess what, when you let your hair get a bit longer (like numan's) it thickens up ( i know mine does!). there would only be 1 way for numan to prove it though, and thats get a short cut , just once would be suffice, then we'd know for sure.
He's just a self deprecating fool now who dispises everything that made him great in the first place. Look at his face at the end of that classic A.F.E. clip, he hated it, and when asked about the polymoog he replied "god i hope not".
So after he messes up the PP tour he will go back to his new stuff which in my opinion is a million miles short of what he did when he was only 21.
The man was a genius before 1981 and mundane at best since then. Only he cant see it.
He went from this godfather figure who revolutionized electronica and synth pop to this NIN soundalike. I love everything Numan did all the way up to Machine and Soul but look at him now. He's changed his entire direction, badmouths his past albums, and tries way too hard to fit in with bands he influenced years ago. He should'nt be trying to sound like NIN or Manson, he should be happy they were influenced from him.
@GaryNumanAlbums I agree! Something that bugged me though was when I saw him live last year. About 15-20 of us waited outside in the cold for an hour and a half in the hopes of getting something signed. He came out the backdoor, walked straight past everyone and sat in his tour bus for 15 minutes before the bus left. Kinda damaged my idolisation of him :-/
@GaryNumanAlbums considering that NIN made the mainstream around the same few months Numan released his "new dark sound" on Sacrifice i think its safe to say he doesnt sound like NIN, hes industrial now, that much is true but saying he is a NIN wanna be then you have to admit that NIN is a Ministry and Skinny Puppy wanna be...and i dont think hes trying to sound like NIN or Manson, its the only way his music could have progressed, that or he goes back to that Jazz electro funk crap(which sucked)
"Oh god not THIS again". I do understand his point of view and how frustrating it must be when he is recognised (by the masses) mostly for things done thirty years ago... Because the biggest implication there is that he has lost it - maybe not creativity (well partly that as well) but being interesting to the general public (that means money). It must be depressing really.
Reflecting album sales, his older material still sells to this day becuase people want it. it's in high demand. Jagged has only sold around 4,000 copies since it's release. That can't even put a dent on the sales of Pleasure Principle or any of the Living Ornaments releases.
I agree with the comment about him being a genius in the 80's, he just don't see it anymore, he don't care. Jagged proved it, look how horrible the sales were, and how crappy it sounded.
The Pleasure Principle is pretty much the only thing he makes money off of anymore, that and the sales of his albums from 79-84.
I bet you anything, if the man himself went back to his real original roots in music, like releasing an album similar to PP or Replicas, it would put him right back on top of his game.
Well i agree with you. I think a lot of numan fans would love to see him do an album like the pleasure princible, telekon or replicas. i do like his music now but the older music is classic.
If he still wants to sell records like he said he did 4 years ago, then he'd go back to his roots. Just as someone posted here, his older albums are in high demand. PP, Telekon, Dance, Replicas, and the Living Ornaments releases are big sellers in the United States. People still buy those albums, and with all the 80's stuff coming back, he would be right back on top of the mountain if he went back to what made him famous. But I doubt he will.
@TheTelekon I can see your point, but after seeing him live in Australia for the second time in my life in 2009, first being in 1980, I have gotten more into things like Haunted, In A Dark Place and stuff from Jaged. Anyway, in the UK he tours his old stuff, though he did do Cars, Films, Metal and Down in the Park and We Are So Fragile at the Brisbane show, so I could not complain. But with so many synth acts and he does not like being an 80's retro icon, would he go back to PP stuff?
@ILurkInShadows Totally yeah. I've never really been convinced of the whole industrial thing he does these day's. It just seems he has latched onto it because of the success of band's such as Nine Inch Nails (his logo even has a backwards N like the NIN logo).
I hate Jools Holand, he makes everything so annoying.....
yateslucy 1 month ago
For me The Pleasure Principle was probably the most "machine" of his albums.
Telekon had a beautiful science fiction esque aura mixed with G.Numans patented "machine" sound.fav alb
Dance was truly a hidden treasure for me as it saw a new style by Numan with a more jazzy feeling, but fresh and familiar enough for me to appreciate it's wonder and creativity.
I didn't like all the songs on The Fury but it had some really wonderful ones like "Miracles" and "Your Fascination". Hidden treasures again
battoureaper 2 months ago
Personally, I am not a fan of Gary Numans "new dark sound". To me, it has none of the deep layers of intricate emotion as his earlier albums had which illustrated a beautiful marriage of sci-fi/sorrow/sarcasm/hurt/isolation and the occasional dash of optimism blanketed in the thick fog of lonliness and even over-saturated feelings crafted by Gary Numan. Now this is just my opinion, but I wish Gary would draw from his earlier works (not necessarily redo) to create something great once again.
battoureaper 2 months ago
Anyone else think Jules Holland always comes across as a wanker? Let your thumb do the talking! ;)
umaralansari 3 months ago
have anyone notes that he looks a lot like alice cooper?
buginene 4 months ago
cool goodstuff gary numan rules,
GOLDBACK32 5 months ago
At 2:01, Gazza doesn't really look all that impressed, actually. Gee... I wonder why? :|
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FatReleaseSystem 11 months ago
Great stuff. I love Gary to bits but I can't believe that he doesn't know where the phrase "the pleasure principle" originally comes from.
MrRik2 1 year ago
@themanonthestair You are absolutely right.The man is really underapreciated especially his "newer" material,which is damn good,i hate it that he doesnt have the following in the States,it is a shame
TheAngelus1898 1 year ago
i remember hating him when he first came out-just thought he was a bowie rip off-but his music was so good-couldn't help becoming a fan...
thepinktent 1 year ago
the bloke at 1:48 i mean lol
whereangelsplay1 1 year ago
the keyboard player looks like the same bloke from Ultravox, am I right?
whereangelsplay1 1 year ago
@whereangelsplay1 yes, u are. It's actually Billy Currie. :)
polterter 1 year ago
@polterter Ahh thanks, thought i knew his face!
whereangelsplay1 1 year ago
When he says "you kind of invented the synth sound," you can tell Gary was about to disagree with him, but he didn't really give him a chance to respond.
skylerpwns 1 year ago
I love numan! He's fooking great live!
Just imagine your life without all those tunes??
boogerbenson 1 year ago
@boogerbenson agree entirely
rockeradz 1 year ago
is that a rug
lem1968a1 1 year ago
Love you, Gary!
RandallJonesey 1 year ago
saw him live he was so good
godpointer 1 year ago
I think it's all subjective, I love his later work as much as his early music :)
moonsong28 1 year ago
at last counting i own 10 polymoog 280a
keyboard
nikkostalmar 2 years ago
Its atificial inplants
bull1ttproof 2 years ago
has much as I love Numan,he allways plays down the impacked the polymoog had on he's music,the only reason every one wants a polymoog 280A now is to get the Vox humana sound he made is own.
cypionate011 2 years ago
check out the Gary Numan 'Synth Brittania' clip, he talks about the effect it had on him there- ie changed his plans completely.
jayscott49 2 years ago
Yeesh...that look on Numan's face after the OGWT clip.
Tazz77 2 years ago
hahaha do you see garys face at 1:59-2:03
wow he looks intense WTF was going through his sick mind?he looks like he was going to kill Jools hahaha
rockcityaudio 2 years ago
sick mind?!
marcwilliamUK 2 years ago
went to see Garys Pleasure Principle tour gig in Cardiff last week- it was awesome. really great night
cheers
ATVmidlandsUK
ATVmidlands5581 2 years ago
I think the synth that lying around in the studio that Gary Numan was in could have been originally Jools Holland's synth that was sent for repair work! ;)
ajittffcure 2 years ago
This is good!! Maaan...just don't see stuff like this in the States. Thank god for You Tube (and The Telekon)!
I still have my original copy of 'The Pleasure Principle' that I bought in early 1980..still one of my favorite albums!
5 stars!
Thanks for posting :)
64m >:-)
64mung 2 years ago 5
Calm down kiddies. he made it quite clear that he didnt want to do another nostalgic album tour, i can remember going on his website and reading the fact that he wouldnt do something like that again. next thing I know hes playing a one off Pleas prin gig, and has decided to turn it into a tour, its purely financial, i think if he was minted he just wouldnt bother.
deanooss 2 years ago
LordaRSEHAT DON'T TALK SHITE!!!! biggest night for a long time was his 50th birthday in manchester, replicas tour, i was there, fucking great night!! you stupid cunt!! dont talk bout stuff you dont know about, fukin prick, get a life, get a job and fuck off of here!!!
beemerduck 2 years ago
some people are never satisfied. gary does album tours so we get to hear the old songs and then does a general tour so we hear the new material and he promotes his new album. Maybe he should do a 24hr gig so he can play all his material.....
simongmb 2 years ago
I don't really understand what hes doing, and havent for ages. Trying to get back in the mainstream with largely rubbish albums post Berserker. Then getting name checked and becoming increasingly popluar, but rather than do his own thing, he has started making music that sounds like the bands name checking him and not the other way around. The replicas tour was a one off and he didnt like nostalgia, so now hes doing another nostalgia tour.
deanooss 2 years ago
I presume this all comes down to money , whilst doing the heavier sounding stuff that he enjoys. Ive always found his comments rather contradicotry, i cant put my finger on this, i see an interview and think, "ahh, thats not right."
deanooss 2 years ago
He used to slag off his old material, but for the last four years or so he has been making most of his money doing the album tours, and from what he has sadi he has loved playing th eold songs again, so maybe he's not quite as bad as you all seem to think.
beemerduck 2 years ago
Why does he insist on wearing that stupid Wig ???? Im a fan, but he looks a Twat with it on....it looks like he's strapped a dead cat onto his head !!!!
AngliaV8 2 years ago
its bot a wig, although looks so much like one, he's had a hair transplant!! met hime a cpl of years ago and had a good look!! he he
beemerduck 2 years ago
Yeah, I've got my serious doubts about that. I know he's had transplants in the 1980s but this hair is much too dense to be his own. For once, he's not telling the truth. Look at pictures of Lyle Menendez. Same style, same thickness and it turned out to be a wig. When you look at pictures from Dream Corrosion, all of a sudden he has this mound of hair on his head. He needs to better maintain it for sure as it does look rather silly.
TheLemonKid01 2 years ago
you realize that he had another hair operation in 1993/4 and opening admits to it
PatrickIngham21 2 years ago
No pun intended (well perhaps it is intended) but I think it's all part of a massive cover-up. He's banking on his past honesty about transplants to pass this one off as another surgery. Still think it is too dense to be his own.
TheLemonKid01 2 years ago
guess what, when you let your hair get a bit longer (like numan's) it thickens up ( i know mine does!). there would only be 1 way for numan to prove it though, and thats get a short cut , just once would be suffice, then we'd know for sure.
PatrickIngham21 2 years ago
thanks telekon.i only caught the last 30 seconds of this...
themachman19691 2 years ago
Great thanks for posting this .I didnt know he was on and missed it.
Synthsound1 2 years ago
always a pleasure to watch your installments on this site m8....
many thanks for postin' this
looking such foreward to hold my dvd of ttpr in my hands on dec. 3rd (indigo)
cheers and all the best from germany,,,
stefan/nmh
nuartstudio 2 years ago
He's just a self deprecating fool now who dispises everything that made him great in the first place. Look at his face at the end of that classic A.F.E. clip, he hated it, and when asked about the polymoog he replied "god i hope not".
So after he messes up the PP tour he will go back to his new stuff which in my opinion is a million miles short of what he did when he was only 21.
The man was a genius before 1981 and mundane at best since then. Only he cant see it.
The mans deluded.
intheyears79to81 2 years ago
You got that right, you're right on the facts.
He went from this godfather figure who revolutionized electronica and synth pop to this NIN soundalike. I love everything Numan did all the way up to Machine and Soul but look at him now. He's changed his entire direction, badmouths his past albums, and tries way too hard to fit in with bands he influenced years ago. He should'nt be trying to sound like NIN or Manson, he should be happy they were influenced from him.
GaryNumanAlbums 2 years ago 7
@GaryNumanAlbums I agree! Something that bugged me though was when I saw him live last year. About 15-20 of us waited outside in the cold for an hour and a half in the hopes of getting something signed. He came out the backdoor, walked straight past everyone and sat in his tour bus for 15 minutes before the bus left. Kinda damaged my idolisation of him :-/
Denomar 1 year ago
@Denomar I understand he has problems dealing with people. Just watch him in these interviews turned away from the audience and constantly fidgeting.
varanid9 1 year ago
@GaryNumanAlbums considering that NIN made the mainstream around the same few months Numan released his "new dark sound" on Sacrifice i think its safe to say he doesnt sound like NIN, hes industrial now, that much is true but saying he is a NIN wanna be then you have to admit that NIN is a Ministry and Skinny Puppy wanna be...and i dont think hes trying to sound like NIN or Manson, its the only way his music could have progressed, that or he goes back to that Jazz electro funk crap(which sucked)
hellchild65 7 months ago
"Oh god not THIS again". I do understand his point of view and how frustrating it must be when he is recognised (by the masses) mostly for things done thirty years ago... Because the biggest implication there is that he has lost it - maybe not creativity (well partly that as well) but being interesting to the general public (that means money). It must be depressing really.
Joriini 2 years ago
Reflecting album sales, his older material still sells to this day becuase people want it. it's in high demand. Jagged has only sold around 4,000 copies since it's release. That can't even put a dent on the sales of Pleasure Principle or any of the Living Ornaments releases.
I agree with the comment about him being a genius in the 80's, he just don't see it anymore, he don't care. Jagged proved it, look how horrible the sales were, and how crappy it sounded.
TheChildwiththeGhost 2 years ago
you got this up fast it was only on last night..... did any of you see the look on garys face after the old A.F.E. clip it said no no
sportandmovies 2 years ago 2
Yeh i dont think he liked that at all.
TheTelekon 2 years ago
@sportandmovies I`ve watched that segment five times, what does A.F.E. mean? thanks x
eddiesteele 3 weeks ago
@eddiesteele are friends electric is the answer my friend
alanlad1 2 weeks ago
The Pleasure Principle is pretty much the only thing he makes money off of anymore, that and the sales of his albums from 79-84.
I bet you anything, if the man himself went back to his real original roots in music, like releasing an album similar to PP or Replicas, it would put him right back on top of his game.
ILurkInShadows 2 years ago 8
Well i agree with you. I think a lot of numan fans would love to see him do an album like the pleasure princible, telekon or replicas. i do like his music now but the older music is classic.
TheTelekon 2 years ago 4
If he still wants to sell records like he said he did 4 years ago, then he'd go back to his roots. Just as someone posted here, his older albums are in high demand. PP, Telekon, Dance, Replicas, and the Living Ornaments releases are big sellers in the United States. People still buy those albums, and with all the 80's stuff coming back, he would be right back on top of the mountain if he went back to what made him famous. But I doubt he will.
ILurkInShadows 2 years ago 2
@TheTelekon I can see your point, but after seeing him live in Australia for the second time in my life in 2009, first being in 1980, I have gotten more into things like Haunted, In A Dark Place and stuff from Jaged. Anyway, in the UK he tours his old stuff, though he did do Cars, Films, Metal and Down in the Park and We Are So Fragile at the Brisbane show, so I could not complain. But with so many synth acts and he does not like being an 80's retro icon, would he go back to PP stuff?
brismike65 1 year ago
@ILurkInShadows yeah deffo agree with you here. i do like his new stuff but the old stuff is amazing. can't beat it
rockeradz 1 year ago
@ILurkInShadows Totally yeah. I've never really been convinced of the whole industrial thing he does these day's. It just seems he has latched onto it because of the success of band's such as Nine Inch Nails (his logo even has a backwards N like the NIN logo).
69crafty 5 months ago
This was great Phil!! :) 'Will there be a Polymoog on stage?' 'God I hope not!' LOL!! Well, if it's only for 10 minutes....
NickDrake101 2 years ago