@Telthalis by saying "swear to me," batman's not suggesting that he's God himself - he's implying that swearing is ridiculous and immoral. batman's a philosophical dude, and i'd like to think religious in some aspects. regardless, he's definitely pursuing a life of near moral perfection - he's simply making a statement that God's not going to help flass here by swearing to an oath mindlessly out of fear. he's merely mocking flass.
@xviolentphilx I believe Batman here is saying he is the authority in the situation, he holds the crooked cop's life in his hands. It also adds to the intimidation, not to mention handing upside down in the rain and all. :P
People are defensive because... here it comes: they like the growling voice... *gasp* I know, crazy right? Like who would've ever thought that the whole world doesn't share your opinion. What bothers you doesn't necessarily bother everyone, and I, as well as many others happen to like the Bat-growl; it brings an animalistic quality to the Batman, and works especially well in interrogation scenes like this.
You are the one who is actively disagreeing with me - notice how my original post wasn't in response to anyone. Why don't you take your own advice about realizing that the whole world doesn't share your opinion.
And in the TDK they "enhanced" Bale's Bat voice during post-production - so obviously I'm not the only one who though it needed some work.
and you are the one who said that "many people agree" with you and claim that anyone who likes the voice is just a "fanboy" being defensive... I'm all for difference of opinion, but you need to stop condescending and generalizing people into categories just because they don't share your views... they "enhanced" his voice? what, like ADR? so? you realize that not everything is caught by the microphones during filming...
I called people out for acting like "fanboys" because they started making ridiculous comments like like "stfu" and "lets see *you* do it" over a few harmless comments. Not because they simply disagreed with me. You can take your own advice about condescending to people.
cute, a lesson in maturity from the guy who compared this scene to an ex-lax commercial... so you are the only one who can make ridiculous comments? oh, that's right... yours are "harmless"... not "over-exaggerations that would most likely cause reprisals"...
I was making an off the cuff remark about *a film.* You took it *personally.* Since then you have done nothing but make ridiculous assumptions about my character based on the fact that I think a line in a film is unintentionally funny. If you can't see the difference then that is your problem.
and I was merely responding to your "off the cuff remark"... I took nothing "personally" and only wanted to share my opinion... and none of my assumptions were ridiculous... they were based on the tone of your words...
Your "assumptions" were straw-man arguments. A logic fallacy. Instead of discussing Christian Bale's voice - even in a sarcastic fashion - you attempted to put an argument in my mouth and tear it down. Ex. "You think you are better than Bale? Not!" (Uh, no. I never made that argument. You did. Because being "better than Bale" isn't necessary to think his voice is ridiculous. 'A' has nothing to do with 'B.' This poor logic has nothing to do with anything.
Oh really? Because I recall writing this: "What bothers you doesn't necessarily bother everyone, and I, as well as many others happen to like the Bat-growl; it brings an animalistic quality to the Batman, and works especially well in interrogation scenes like this." But I suppose that wasn't discussing his voice.
Stop trying to cherry pick your quotes. In the same post that you just quoted, you were guilty of building a straw-man argument (cited below). Did I say everyone shared my opinion? No. I merely made a few tongue-in-cheek comments. You took them with the utmost seriousness, and have done nothing but make ridiculous arguments since. Typical fanboy behavior.
"Like who would've ever thought that the whole world doesn't share your opinion. What bothers you doesn't necessarily bother everyone..."
For a guy talking about logical fallacies, you haven't even been consistent in any of your arguments. first you say "notice how my original post wasn't in response to anyone" then you say "I called people out for acting like 'fanboys' because they started making ridiculous comments" which implies that you did indeed respond to someone else. Then you tell me to "take my own advice" as if that could prove your point. Why don't you deal with your own non sequiturs and irrelevant conclusions first?
Do you understand the meaning of the word "original?" Do you understand how to read a thread?
I'll repost my third comment in this thread since it explains the above point. *Hint: my 3rd post isn't my original post ;) *
"I called people out for acting like "fanboys" because they started making ridiculous comments like like "stfu" and "lets see *you* do it" over a few harmless comments. Not because they simply disagreed with me. You can take your own advice about condescending to people."
So, no you moron. My original (there's that word again) post wasn't in response to anyone. I didn't respond to anyone until they responded to me. Get it? Or are you too dense to follow that as well?
My comment about 'taking your own advice' means just that: take you own advice. You accused me of acting like *everyone* shared my opinion. You acted the same way. How you could possibly think that had anything to do with *proving* my point about Christian Bale's Bat-voice is totally beyond me.
ok, you arrogant asshole, let's look at your "original" post: "LOL, worst part of the movie" *slow clap* wow... that was the best commentary I've ever heard. I mean, it's a wonder you don't have your own talk show or something... you post your opinion without explaining yourself then get butt-hurt when people disagree with you? boo-hoo!
My original post was never meant to inspire such "butt-hurt." I don't think I gave it more than a second of thought (over a year ago). I really never anticipated rabid Begins fans to pounce. I'm sorry my tiny little post caused such "butt-hurt" in this thread. I hope your case of "butt-hurt" gets better.
And I could care less that people like the voice (notice how 2 posters kindly disagreed and I didn't care one bit). What I think is funny is the level of pure vitriol or "butt-hurt" that my one comment has inspired in fanyboys like you. A comment that you, yourself, agree isn't worth responding to. Yet you still feel the need to attack and use any tactic possible (no matter how ridiculous) to defend what you perceive to be an assault on the film. *That* is fanboyism.
I initially replied to your other comment... not your first one... and even though your first comment wasn't in reply to anyone... you still came out sounding like a douche, so it was obvious that you didn't give it a second thought, but god-forbid people disagreeing... then you vehemently make over-exaggerations about a scene you didn't like and wonder why people respond in kind. *That* is ignorance...
Are you this dense? *You* are the one who cannot handle anyone not liking Batman the Bat-voice. Tons of people have comments on liking the voice. I did not get "vehemently" angry with any of them. *You* are the one who is getting all "butt hurt." Hell, you can't even quote me correctly - let alone make a coherent argument.
And for the record I'm not even commenting on the voice anymore - I haven't since my first response to you. I'm arguing over how much of a "butt hurt" fanboy you truly are.
What's so ironic about this is that you are the one who has the stick up the ass over someone disagreeing with you. You seem to be one of those people that likes to project their own feelings on to others.
Hence the comments about being "butt hurt" and "god-forbid people disagreeing."
You also seem to have a fascination with "butts" and "asses" being "hurt" and having objects "stuck up" them. You might want to look into that.
You can't even look past your own arrogance to make a coherent argument. You've been doing nothing but running around in circles since your first reply. Stop trying to project your own hard-headed foolishness to other people. You've been guilty of the ad hominem logical fallacy since the beginning.
This is why you are so pathetically stupid. There is no "argument" to be made either way. You like the voice, I do not. I've pretty much said that from my first or second reply to you. We might as well argue about whether blue is a better color than red.
What's funny, is that after half a dozen replies, you still haven't realized that my posts haven't been about the voice...they've been about you.
BTW - LOL @ your use of the phrase "logical fallacy." I think it's hysterical that I pointed your tendency to project, and what do you do? You recycled the same "logic fallacy" and "projection" comments that I just made to you. Priceless.
It's the same thing as your pathetic "take your own advice" line, you stupid hypocrite... but I guess you're too much of a fool to see that you've made several of the same errors you accuse me of making (and then some)... you ignorant jackass..
refer back to the ad hominem line, dumbass... all you've been doing is attacking me since the beginning, and at least you can admit that, so fine... but liking a portrayal of a character and liking a color are not the same thing, that's just oversimplification... which is another fallacy... care to go on, hypocrite?
You could accuse me of an ad hominem attack if I were trying to claim that Bale's voice sucks because you like the voice and you suck.
Luckily, I think it's a matter of personal preference and not much else. (Personally, I think he sounds lame).
Since about post #3, I've simply been arguing that you are a pathetically stupid individual who has done nothing but recycle insults that I've thrown at you - and mis-use them every step of the way. All because you are a "butt hurt" fanboy.
once again you oversimplify things... you are the one who brought up logical fallacies in the first place, implying that you thought of this as a serious argument, then you say it's pointless arguing about personal preference yet continue to be the arrogant ass that you are... you're living proof that narcissism and hypocrisy have no bounds... not to mention that God has pity for imbeciles like yourself... you've been doing the same "recycling" you "pathetically stupid" "dense" "rabid" fool...
Noun 1. logical fallacy - a fallacy in logical argumentation
I guess the guys who write Thesauruses and Dictionaries for a living are idiots too then... no, what you are is far more than an idiot... you are a pretentious self-righteous fool who continues to make a fool of himself the more he tries to sound educated... you pathetic waste of life...
You were using the phrase incorrectly, moron. I never said it wasn't a word.
You were using it as if to say "I pointed out the error in you logical." When you meant to say "I pointed out the error in your logic." See the difference in how the words logic and logical are used? Dictionaries are fun!
You just love using examples that have nothing to do with what I say, don't you? At least quote me in your example then, if you have something to prove. I wrote "you are the one who brought up logical fallacies in the first place, implying that you thought of this as a serious argument". "Logical fallacy" is a noun and I used it as a noun in plural form not as an adjective... You are the moron if you think that's "using the phrase incorrectly".
I'm the only one "actively disagreeing with you"? I doubt it. Then you make your "tongue-in-cheek" comments and get butt-hurt over other people's similarly cheeky responses. But no, defending the scene is "typical fanboyism". Stop trying to justify yourself just because you can't take that stick out of your ass long enough to enjoy a scene (and voice) that is totally in character with an American icon, you condescending officious prick.
yes, I suppose judging a heated debate over something determined by preference as a third party gives you the luxury of calling us idiots... so be it... that's the beauty of the internet... everyone can share their opinion, even if nobody else cares... in short, think what you will, because I couldn't give less of a rat's ass about what you think anyway...
LMFAO, thank the universe these four seconds exist on youtube.
Ponce1390 2 months ago
@Ponce1390 :P
WolfMoon86 1 month ago
"SWEAR TO ME!!!"
".....cunt?"
LittleLeeHere 4 months ago
keep pressing 4
Indabaz 5 months ago
i <3 Batman
enesino 10 months ago
3 people didn't swear to batman!!!
metaldave08096 11 months ago
I raped that replay button.
inVINCibleFCB 1 year ago
Kneel Before Zod for a new generation??
SVTRonDogg 1 year ago 4
@SVTRonDogg - I'm down for that.
hitman036 6 months ago
nice teeth bats! xD
xxphoebegirlxx 1 year ago
this is so retarded, swear to meafgehfsdjhg
Mercenary78 2 years ago
Bad quality.
ItsMeWario2 3 years ago
especially because the way it was cut it is so funny.
MasteringLOA 3 years ago
That's a bit egotistical. Don't you think?
Telthalis 3 years ago 2
No, not at all, there is no god.
Dark4Vendetta 2 years ago
precisely. he is not being egotistical at all, just logical.
00joe 2 years ago
@Dark4Vendetta ....
Viz731 1 year ago
@Telthalis by saying "swear to me," batman's not suggesting that he's God himself - he's implying that swearing is ridiculous and immoral. batman's a philosophical dude, and i'd like to think religious in some aspects. regardless, he's definitely pursuing a life of near moral perfection - he's simply making a statement that God's not going to help flass here by swearing to an oath mindlessly out of fear. he's merely mocking flass.
xviolentphilx 1 year ago 2
@xviolentphilx I believe Batman here is saying he is the authority in the situation, he holds the crooked cop's life in his hands. It also adds to the intimidation, not to mention handing upside down in the rain and all. :P
TriofPwningNoobs 1 year ago
@xviolentphilx yes thank u for ur almost near perfect knowledge...how that managed to get by me the first time around around is beyond me
marveldcuniverse101 1 year ago
lmaoo!! awesome.
bradpittlover92 3 years ago
SWEAR TO MEEE!
JokerWright 3 years ago 18
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This is the worst.
irocz0r 3 years ago
thanks for uploading!
ClearHeatVision 3 years ago
funny as fuk when he screams hahaha
sexysteveontour08 3 years ago
HAHAHA-that is funny as fuck
WolfMoon86 3 years ago
Christian Bale has really nice teeth !!
Did anyone else realise that ??
xkaramellox 3 years ago
how did THIS GUY not SHIT IN HIS PANTS....cause if it was me well....ummm I dont need no more explaining...LOL.....SWEAR TO ME!!! PLFF!!! LMAO
FlakoFino23 3 years ago
christian bale is so fucking good hahaha
SocietalGrudge 3 years ago
,lol ok, I'll always swear to you
Laveticus 3 years ago
haha christian bale u stud
HickSlayer1 3 years ago 2
Ever since this movie I have been swearing to Batman
RoyalMessup 3 years ago 3
this is the best!!!!
zmd000 3 years ago 2
LOL good job
amilatubes 3 years ago
LOL, sounds as if he swallowed a frog. I mean that's how he (Batman) sounded like throughout the film.
Kingkong922 3 years ago
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BEST FUCKING SCENE in COMIC BOOK MOVIE HISTORY THIS IS BATMAN!!!! I get chills every time I see this scene!!
harveydents 3 years ago 6
Best line in the film, I think
TwistedMetalLegion 3 years ago
me 2
JayvsJules 3 years ago
HAHAHAHA excellent !
ZhanXue 5 years ago
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LOL, worst part of the movie
shocktrooper327 5 years ago
hahaha, i thought it was brilliant! as funny as, "nice coat" from the part of the movie where he takes out falcone.
SatyaVenugopal 5 years ago 3
you're joking right?! that was one of my favorite lines
spaniarddamnit 4 years ago 5
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Yeah, if it were a ex-lax commercial.
Why does he talk/make faces like he is constipated? He also needs to work on that slight lisp he has...
shocktrooper327 4 years ago
Why don't you stfu.
Ciscommander 3 years ago
LOL, I think it'd be great to see how you would do as Batman, since you talk so much crap. Better than Bale? I think not.
dfsgsdfhdfghdnfgn 4 years ago
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/rolls eyes
His voice sounded forced and un-natural. Many people have commented on this.
The Begins fanboys need to stop being so defensive.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
People are defensive because... here it comes: they like the growling voice... *gasp* I know, crazy right? Like who would've ever thought that the whole world doesn't share your opinion. What bothers you doesn't necessarily bother everyone, and I, as well as many others happen to like the Bat-growl; it brings an animalistic quality to the Batman, and works especially well in interrogation scenes like this.
interphazor 3 years ago
You are the one who is actively disagreeing with me - notice how my original post wasn't in response to anyone. Why don't you take your own advice about realizing that the whole world doesn't share your opinion.
And in the TDK they "enhanced" Bale's Bat voice during post-production - so obviously I'm not the only one who though it needed some work.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
and you are the one who said that "many people agree" with you and claim that anyone who likes the voice is just a "fanboy" being defensive... I'm all for difference of opinion, but you need to stop condescending and generalizing people into categories just because they don't share your views... they "enhanced" his voice? what, like ADR? so? you realize that not everything is caught by the microphones during filming...
interphazor 3 years ago
I called people out for acting like "fanboys" because they started making ridiculous comments like like "stfu" and "lets see *you* do it" over a few harmless comments. Not because they simply disagreed with me. You can take your own advice about condescending to people.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
cute, a lesson in maturity from the guy who compared this scene to an ex-lax commercial... so you are the only one who can make ridiculous comments? oh, that's right... yours are "harmless"... not "over-exaggerations that would most likely cause reprisals"...
interphazor 3 years ago
I was making an off the cuff remark about *a film.* You took it *personally.* Since then you have done nothing but make ridiculous assumptions about my character based on the fact that I think a line in a film is unintentionally funny. If you can't see the difference then that is your problem.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
and I was merely responding to your "off the cuff remark"... I took nothing "personally" and only wanted to share my opinion... and none of my assumptions were ridiculous... they were based on the tone of your words...
interphazor 3 years ago
Your "assumptions" were straw-man arguments. A logic fallacy. Instead of discussing Christian Bale's voice - even in a sarcastic fashion - you attempted to put an argument in my mouth and tear it down. Ex. "You think you are better than Bale? Not!" (Uh, no. I never made that argument. You did. Because being "better than Bale" isn't necessary to think his voice is ridiculous. 'A' has nothing to do with 'B.' This poor logic has nothing to do with anything.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
Oh really? Because I recall writing this: "What bothers you doesn't necessarily bother everyone, and I, as well as many others happen to like the Bat-growl; it brings an animalistic quality to the Batman, and works especially well in interrogation scenes like this." But I suppose that wasn't discussing his voice.
interphazor 3 years ago
Stop trying to cherry pick your quotes. In the same post that you just quoted, you were guilty of building a straw-man argument (cited below). Did I say everyone shared my opinion? No. I merely made a few tongue-in-cheek comments. You took them with the utmost seriousness, and have done nothing but make ridiculous arguments since. Typical fanboy behavior.
"Like who would've ever thought that the whole world doesn't share your opinion. What bothers you doesn't necessarily bother everyone..."
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
For a guy talking about logical fallacies, you haven't even been consistent in any of your arguments. first you say "notice how my original post wasn't in response to anyone" then you say "I called people out for acting like 'fanboys' because they started making ridiculous comments" which implies that you did indeed respond to someone else. Then you tell me to "take my own advice" as if that could prove your point. Why don't you deal with your own non sequiturs and irrelevant conclusions first?
interphazor 3 years ago
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Do you understand the meaning of the word "original?" Do you understand how to read a thread?
I'll repost my third comment in this thread since it explains the above point. *Hint: my 3rd post isn't my original post ;) *
"I called people out for acting like "fanboys" because they started making ridiculous comments like like "stfu" and "lets see *you* do it" over a few harmless comments. Not because they simply disagreed with me. You can take your own advice about condescending to people."
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
So, no you moron. My original (there's that word again) post wasn't in response to anyone. I didn't respond to anyone until they responded to me. Get it? Or are you too dense to follow that as well?
My comment about 'taking your own advice' means just that: take you own advice. You accused me of acting like *everyone* shared my opinion. You acted the same way. How you could possibly think that had anything to do with *proving* my point about Christian Bale's Bat-voice is totally beyond me.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
ok, you arrogant asshole, let's look at your "original" post: "LOL, worst part of the movie" *slow clap* wow... that was the best commentary I've ever heard. I mean, it's a wonder you don't have your own talk show or something... you post your opinion without explaining yourself then get butt-hurt when people disagree with you? boo-hoo!
interphazor 3 years ago
My original post was never meant to inspire such "butt-hurt." I don't think I gave it more than a second of thought (over a year ago). I really never anticipated rabid Begins fans to pounce. I'm sorry my tiny little post caused such "butt-hurt" in this thread. I hope your case of "butt-hurt" gets better.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
And I could care less that people like the voice (notice how 2 posters kindly disagreed and I didn't care one bit). What I think is funny is the level of pure vitriol or "butt-hurt" that my one comment has inspired in fanyboys like you. A comment that you, yourself, agree isn't worth responding to. Yet you still feel the need to attack and use any tactic possible (no matter how ridiculous) to defend what you perceive to be an assault on the film. *That* is fanboyism.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
I initially replied to your other comment... not your first one... and even though your first comment wasn't in reply to anyone... you still came out sounding like a douche, so it was obvious that you didn't give it a second thought, but god-forbid people disagreeing... then you vehemently make over-exaggerations about a scene you didn't like and wonder why people respond in kind. *That* is ignorance...
interphazor 3 years ago
Are you this dense? *You* are the one who cannot handle anyone not liking Batman the Bat-voice. Tons of people have comments on liking the voice. I did not get "vehemently" angry with any of them. *You* are the one who is getting all "butt hurt." Hell, you can't even quote me correctly - let alone make a coherent argument.
And for the record I'm not even commenting on the voice anymore - I haven't since my first response to you. I'm arguing over how much of a "butt hurt" fanboy you truly are.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
cute, but that stick is too far up your ass for you to try and pull it out now... really... don't strain yourself...
interphazor 3 years ago
What's so ironic about this is that you are the one who has the stick up the ass over someone disagreeing with you. You seem to be one of those people that likes to project their own feelings on to others.
Hence the comments about being "butt hurt" and "god-forbid people disagreeing."
You also seem to have a fascination with "butts" and "asses" being "hurt" and having objects "stuck up" them. You might want to look into that.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
You can't even look past your own arrogance to make a coherent argument. You've been doing nothing but running around in circles since your first reply. Stop trying to project your own hard-headed foolishness to other people. You've been guilty of the ad hominem logical fallacy since the beginning.
interphazor 3 years ago
This is why you are so pathetically stupid. There is no "argument" to be made either way. You like the voice, I do not. I've pretty much said that from my first or second reply to you. We might as well argue about whether blue is a better color than red.
What's funny, is that after half a dozen replies, you still haven't realized that my posts haven't been about the voice...they've been about you.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
BTW - LOL @ your use of the phrase "logical fallacy." I think it's hysterical that I pointed your tendency to project, and what do you do? You recycled the same "logic fallacy" and "projection" comments that I just made to you. Priceless.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
It's the same thing as your pathetic "take your own advice" line, you stupid hypocrite... but I guess you're too much of a fool to see that you've made several of the same errors you accuse me of making (and then some)... you ignorant jackass..
interphazor 3 years ago
refer back to the ad hominem line, dumbass... all you've been doing is attacking me since the beginning, and at least you can admit that, so fine... but liking a portrayal of a character and liking a color are not the same thing, that's just oversimplification... which is another fallacy... care to go on, hypocrite?
interphazor 3 years ago
You could accuse me of an ad hominem attack if I were trying to claim that Bale's voice sucks because you like the voice and you suck.
Luckily, I think it's a matter of personal preference and not much else. (Personally, I think he sounds lame).
Since about post #3, I've simply been arguing that you are a pathetically stupid individual who has done nothing but recycle insults that I've thrown at you - and mis-use them every step of the way. All because you are a "butt hurt" fanboy.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
once again you oversimplify things... you are the one who brought up logical fallacies in the first place, implying that you thought of this as a serious argument, then you say it's pointless arguing about personal preference yet continue to be the arrogant ass that you are... you're living proof that narcissism and hypocrisy have no bounds... not to mention that God has pity for imbeciles like yourself... you've been doing the same "recycling" you "pathetically stupid" "dense" "rabid" fool...
interphazor 3 years ago
God, you are an idiot.
1) The phrase is "LOGIC Fallacy." You sound like a total moron when you say "logical fallacy." If you are going to copy my posts, do it correctly.
2) I pointed out the gaps in your logic to show how much of an idiot you are...and that's pretty much all I've done since about post #3.
3) Only an idiot would confuse my attempt to point out the holes in your logic with an actual argument against Bale's voice.
4) You must be an idiot.
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
Noun 1. logical fallacy - a fallacy in logical argumentation
I guess the guys who write Thesauruses and Dictionaries for a living are idiots too then... no, what you are is far more than an idiot... you are a pretentious self-righteous fool who continues to make a fool of himself the more he tries to sound educated... you pathetic waste of life...
interphazor 3 years ago
You were using the phrase incorrectly, moron. I never said it wasn't a word.
You were using it as if to say "I pointed out the error in you logical." When you meant to say "I pointed out the error in your logic." See the difference in how the words logic and logical are used? Dictionaries are fun!
shocktrooper327 3 years ago
You just love using examples that have nothing to do with what I say, don't you? At least quote me in your example then, if you have something to prove. I wrote "you are the one who brought up logical fallacies in the first place, implying that you thought of this as a serious argument". "Logical fallacy" is a noun and I used it as a noun in plural form not as an adjective... You are the moron if you think that's "using the phrase incorrectly".
interphazor 3 years ago
Stop being a bunch of nerds. This is the internet, not an English class.
RazzleDazzle2340 3 years ago 21
Ad hominem all the way. :)
CountAbel 3 years ago
I'm the only one "actively disagreeing with you"? I doubt it. Then you make your "tongue-in-cheek" comments and get butt-hurt over other people's similarly cheeky responses. But no, defending the scene is "typical fanboyism". Stop trying to justify yourself just because you can't take that stick out of your ass long enough to enjoy a scene (and voice) that is totally in character with an American icon, you condescending officious prick.
interphazor 3 years ago
i'd guess both of you study philosophy or were in logic 101 or shit...
idiots.
distanciaycategoria 3 years ago
yes, I suppose judging a heated debate over something determined by preference as a third party gives you the luxury of calling us idiots... so be it... that's the beauty of the internet... everyone can share their opinion, even if nobody else cares... in short, think what you will, because I couldn't give less of a rat's ass about what you think anyway...
interphazor 3 years ago 2
Ras Al Ghul
yt4life 5 years ago