Watchtower Wacky Chronology - 1919 part 1

[lilfreeway21]

i dont know what i believe anymore

[vincent15641]

Daniel 8:17 says the time of the end shall be the vision- meaning the world will end in the year 2020. See the Aimed At America 1 video because it reveals too many parallels for this 2020 prophecy to be wrong!

[Batempathy]

Are all apostates sex cases ?

[ExGileadMissionary]

@Batempathy Are all batmen horny?

[elguapo5900]

Dude, your adorable, you look like a teddy bear or something

[trailerfitter2]

I noticed that no one has responded with a video

[ExGileadMissionary]

@trailerfitter2 We'll be waiting fro a long time. JWs are good at hurling insults at those who criticize them, but quite short on facts

[trailerfitter2]

@ExGileadMissionary there are no "how to use a video recorder for you tube" type publications for the JWs either!! lol

[ExGileadMissionary]

@trailerfitter2 They take up to much space on "The Dangers of Using the INternetz" articles to explain how to do anything important

[wickmanblue]

As an ex-jehovah's witness who exited becuase of experienced hypocrisy abnd unbelievable injustice coupled with absolute extremism, I have to agree: if JW's really do have the absolute truth, then they should have no fear of being questioned just as they once asked us to question beliefs we ourselve3s once had prior to becoming JW. The real test of truth is it's ability to stand up to scrutiny. Besides, our faith belongs to Jehovah, not to man made visible organization whitewashing it's errors.

[eternityandforever]

@wickmanblue Noah preached many years before the end of that ungodly world came. We are truly anticipating the end of this current wicked system-REFER to 2 Peter 3:3-9. Many people won't take note and believe God will clean all wrongdoers out,but he will! Matthew 24:37-39 says they took no note and the flood came and swept them all away!Jehovah's Witnesses are indeed taking note,and helping as many people as we can to stand ready for the judgement by our Great God Jehovah! GET READY TOO!

[ExGileadMissionary]

@eternityandforever Harold Camping is taking note too. Take note of that!

[GGGNVideos]

@eternityandforever: Yeah, certainly. There is only one little snag: The Bibles' words are woth exactly nothing. That's why I'm not that much embarrassed.

[glamourknight]

omg at 5:15 ! That's Ramon !! He visited my pioneer school

[teokoroa]

why? why are you creating these videos? You have tooo much time on your hands..I see now why you left? You never really had true faith in your religion. You doubted Jehovah's teaching..Even when you were at Gilead your faith was still wavering, you admit it when you say you had doubts about 1914.

[SpecialPioneerSmerf]

@teokoroa No, he doubted the teachings of MEN. Where is 1914 in the bible? That is why he made these video's, and they are very helpful for those who are truth seekers. I was lied to as a JW and I wasn't impressed with that, the further I read the WatchTowers publications and doctrine changes the more it became crystal clear that these MEN are using and endangering people for their own benefit. These video's aren't intended for happy, content JW's, who shouldn't be here in the first place.

[teokoroa]

Then wouldn't it be more beneficial to tell others of your truths rather than breakdown what is wrong in the Jehovah Witnesses beliefs...Tell me your findings. I am not a Jehovah Witness.

[SpecialPioneerSmerf]

@teokoroa Would you allow a friend go to a doctor discovered had a shady past? Is it not beneficial to read warning labels even if the manufacture would rather you not? Do you check out what the critics have to say about a movie before you go?

"Tell me your findings"

What would you like to know? There are many informative video's and websites here. I was born into the religion and been a JW my whole life and I walked away from it, which is one of the hardest things to do.

[teokoroa]

@SpecialPioneerSmerf I want to know your views on the paradise earth/, heaven whatever it is you would like to call it...Where will I go when I die? Is their a chance of myself and my family surviving the end of time? what is it that I have to do?

[SpecialPioneerSmerf]

@teokoroa "Paradise"... every religion has their version of paradise. This is the life we know we have, and we have no proof or evidence of a Paradise beyond. Anyone who tries to convince you have to do something to get to Paradise, or past Armageddon, are trying to manipulate and control you. Ditto for your family. Paradise is now.

"I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."

— Mark Twain

[teokoroa]

Sorry I didn't receive your reply in my inbox.. Thank you for sharing your views with me...

[SpecialPioneerSmerf]

@teokoroa Your welcome. Anytime you feel like it PM me.

[teokoroa]

Respond to this video...Your Jehovah Witness upbringing still comes into play. Please don't mock me by providing me with illustrations. Is it right to destroy other peoples beliefs because your experiences with them weren't the greatest? Are your finding based on truths or other mans understandings? Please explain...

[SpecialPioneerSmerf]

@teokoroa I was asking you rhetorical questions as answers, not mocking you. The WTs religion is the opinion of men, not God. Your using loaded language when you say "destroy someones beliefs". What's provided here is a telling of the other side of the story, the one you won't get if you are studying with a JW. The choice is up to you to look or not. I found the argument against the WT through my research of WT publications to be true, that they were lying and indeed misleading people like me.

[teokoroa]

@SpecialPioneerSmerf I was using loaded language and I apologize. I should have been more specific. I have asked you questions and yet I receive no answer. What are your views on Armageddon? Where do I go when I die? How do I avoid death for myself and my family? Where do I go from here to seek the truth?

[SpecialPioneerSmerf]

@teokoroa I did answer those question directly and indirectly, but i'll answer again more clearly. Armageddon (biblical) no proof.

Where do we go when we die? No proof that we go anywhere.

How do I avoid death for myself and my family? No proof there is a way to avoid death.

Where do I go from here to seek the truth? I would recommend critical thinking, free thought... reality!(Testable, observable, reliable and falsifiable).

=)

[SpecialPioneerSmerf]

@teokoroa @teokoroa I did attempt to answer those question directly and indirectly, but i'll answer again more clearly.

Armageddon (biblical) no proof.

Where do we go when we die? No proof that we go anywhere.

How do I avoid death for myself and my family? No proof there is a way to avoid death.

Where do I go from here to seek the truth? I would recommend critical thinking, free thought... reality!(Testable, observable, reliable and falsifiable).

=)

[ExGileadMissionary]

@teokoroa Ahhh, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Look it up/

Why am I creating these videos? I am asking people to question their beliefs. If their beliefs are accurate, they have nothing to fear. This is what JW;s do from door to door - they question other religion's beliefs. So why can't JW's be questioned? If you have the truth, then you have nothing to fear. If you don't have the truth, then you have everything to fear.

[teokoroa]

@ExGileadMissionary I will look it up and I don't believe I know the truth yet...

[sunshineuklondon1965]

@ExGileadMissionary What is the Memorial of Christ's Death*? The Memorial is when Jehovah's Witnesses remember the death of Jesus Christ. It is their most important meeting and is held on the evening of the Jewish month of Nisan 14. This year the Memorial of Christ's death will be held on APRIL 17th 2011. You are warmly invited to attend this special memorial celebration. Contact your local KINGDOM HALL of Jehovah's Witnesses for details.

OR FOLLOW THE LINKS ON MY CHANNEL (on the left)

[TheElmaspelon]

@teokoroa Well I do not agree with you, the gay had a good reason to leave, may be the same reasons I had,

the problem is that with Jehovah's Witnesses is impossible to reason because they think that they are the only one who has the true, the truth according to them, they repeat what the Watchtower teaches them, but they never get the information from several sources, so If you have nothing to fear about the truth, why the Watchtower does not want you to listen to other people

[teokoroa]

@TheElmaspelon This sooo old time for you to move on to the next person :) have a good day!

[Edition1914]

Sad to hear. Let us kown about the Truth. We only hear you talking against Jehovah's Witnesses. Let us know which Religion is True for you. Explain that to us.

[ExGileadMissionary]

@Edition1914 none.

[alekempire2000]

Why are all the comments above removed?

[ExGileadMissionary]

@alekempire2000 Removed by the person who posted them. I generally don't remove comments, unless they are threatening, spam, or extremely offensive. Check with the person who removed them to find out why they posted and then removed.

[lemvcr]

Welcome back .... I was looking forward for new videos. Thanks.

[mdemaify]

I read the Bible and found that the Bible is so clear about purpose for the earth in genesis down to revelation hence there will be a future paradise earth. Your mind is troubled in your conclusion and perhaps you are unable to exercise deductive and /or inductive reasoning.

[mdemaify]

I read the Bible and found that the Bible is so clear about purpose for the earth in genesis down to revelation hence there will be a future paradise earth. Your mind is troubled in your conclusion and perhaps you are unable to exercise deductive and /or inductive reasoning.

[iamSAMiam1979]

Im thankfull to god for u ,keep up the good work...

[ExGileadMissionary]

@iamSAMiam1979 Yes, praise God (see my latest video)

[rhodanageorge]

@ExGileadMissionary

So, your new religion is called the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. And your founder is Bobby Henderson who also wrote your holy book The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. And members like you are Pastafarians.

I guess it came from "one who enjoys a fare of pasta"

Anyway, I found all these info in the Wikipedia.

So anyone before you engage Mr. ex Gilead candidate (he is not a missionary yet), find out what his new religion is. This guy is a joke.

[napsuta]

Can I prove the importance of 1919 from the Bible alone?

Is there anyone who has become or became a JW by reading the Bible and discovering after wards that they believed the WT beliefs as found in their books?

Without the WT books I would never know their beliefs. Nor would I become a buyer and promoter (at my own expense and time) of their publications.

In other words the Bible does not teach my salvation depends on my being a WT slave.

[PuNkOfNiCe]

What I don't get is why JW's would be disfellowshipped for holding to beliefs published in 1919 if it was such a prophetic year?!?!?! Nothing short of MADNESS!

[talovemi]

Excellent Video. With fears to contact you I emailed you on youtube to ask you some questions almost a year ago. Thanks to your videos I started to recover my life.

Thank you Ex-Gilead Missionary! And now I happily joined your religion :-) I am a pastafarian too

[ExGileadMissionary]

@talovemi Thx CJ, and congrats

[rn3rodriguez]

1919 was always a hard sell for me. In fact the revelation book was always a disappointment because even at a young age, I could tell most of these call prophecies Visions could have applies to a millions different things. In fact most scholars believe the beast in revelations is Rome. The beast number 666 is really a cryptic name for Nero. And it make sense Paul is writing on code because he is a prisoner of the roman empire

[myxyzaccount]

@sbgrox11 - we don't dedicate ourselves to God based on a date.

[ILYIAB]

This is the first vid I watch from your channel. I can't discerner your current position. Are you a theist or deist? An atheist?

I never went to Gilead but my nephew did. I just went to Pioneer School (? I'm from Sweden and not really sure what the English name is/was).

[ExGileadMissionary]

@ILYIAB How bout humanist and Pastafarian...

[ILYIAB]

@ExGileadMissionary R-Amen. R-Amen.

[BADAZZociation]

@ExGileadMissionary All about the noodle appendage i see. Ramen! lol

[myxyzaccount]

@ExGileadMissionary - how about an apostate and traitor of your God

[ExGileadMissionary]

@myxyzaccount I don't have a god to betray. :p

[ExGileadMissionary]

@myxyzaccount How bout you answer the simple question: Can you prove 1919 using the Bible alone?

[OurGr8God]

@myxyzaccount - I take it that according to JW's Jehovah's throne is in Brooklyn New York? And not in heaven? Since dropping out of the WB&TS is betraying God then His throne MUST BE in Brooklyn. Dropping out of a RELIGION is not the same as betraying GOD. "THERE IS A DIFFERENCE." God "IS NOT" a religion. (GOD MADE MAN, MAN MADE RELIGION) God is a Person not a religious organisation.

[liimra4all]

Its like telling them there is a scorpion on their back but they wont believe you, you take a picture of the scorpion and show them and they say yes there is a scorpion in the picture but its not my back, you get a mirror and show it to them, they say its magic, you tell them scorpion will kill you, they say no its the harmless kind, once they get stang they say YOU put it there.

I FEEL LIKE SAYING ``` LET THAT DAMN SCORPION STING THEM````` BUT MY KIDS ARE IN IT AND IT HURTS.

[liimra4all]

``````Just another apostate lying and twisting things around````` and `````We shouldnt watch his videos otherwise demons will repossess our minds````` or `````You see what happens when you let satan guides you`````` or ```` all these apostates are trying to ruin our dedication to jehovah`````` I CAN IMAGINE JWS SAYING ALL THESE THINGS.

[PuNkOfNiCe]

5:21 Danny Gugliara! OMG!!

[ExGileadMissionary]

@PuNkOfNiCe Yes, Gugliara's were in my class. You know him?

[japlha]

Glad to see you are making videos again. I appreciate your effort.

[TitusChapter1Verse11]

I'm so thankful that you are doing videos again. I was at Patterson from 2000 to 2002 and spent alot of time with Gilead students. I think 1918/1919 is WAY more important to JW theology than 1914, although those that have never been JW's really wouldn't realize this. 1918 was supposedly the year that Jesus inspected and appointed the faithful and discreet slave. Interestingly enough the WT didn't view themselves as the faithful slave until...1927.

[propagandatechniques]

5:19 - looks like Bill Valk in that picture.

[ExGileadMissionary]

@propagandatechniques Nobody by that name was in our class. See the WT 12/15/03 for names.

[propagandatechniques]

@ExGileadMissionary He wentto ministerial training school at Patterson in 2007, I believe. Eh, after a while, they all start to look alike.

[jaymurtii]

@propagandatechniques thats only 3yrs ago, how long have you been out? Its hard to believe with the mind you have that it was that recent.

[propagandatechniques]

@jaymurtii What exactly is hard to believe? That a person in the picture with no date showing on it looks like someone that went to ministerial training school in 2007? Believe me, I know Bill very well. We served in the same congregation 7 years. Yet, he went to MTS, not me. So, what's hard to believe? Lance just explained the person in the picture is not him. So, there you have it. I had no clue what the picture was, when it was taken or who else was in it. I thought it might've been MTS 2007.

[ExGileadMissionary]

@propagandatechniques The pic is from my Gilead school, Summer 2003

[propagandatechniques]

@ExGileadMissionary Yeah, I figured that after you stated the year of the picture. Thanks.

[propagandatechniques]

@jaymurtii Oh, I get it. You assumed I went to ministerial training school. Nope. Bill did. So, it's wuite understandable I don't recall what year he went. It may have been 2006.

[jaymurtii]

@propagandatechniques Yep,...I assumed wrong;)

[iluzionistank]

does it make sense to U? I m not a JW. But I was 6 years ago. Now, I know, why I m not a JW, and I m not proud of it. Still can not find enoug power to win over s. forces every day trying to put me deeper and deeper inside to this wicked world....

I remember one thing. Mathew 18:7. If you are proud aj your self , U didn t realized the sense of JW doctrine and everithing... I m so sorry for yourself.... why R U doing this thing, does it matter to you, about dates and things like this, U wrote..?

[ExGileadMissionary]

@iluzionistank I am doing this to help other persons who may be questioning JW doctrines. Do you think that 1919 is based on the Bible?

[iluzionistank]

@ExGileadMissionary U do not understand what I am talking about. I hope that Jehowa will forgive your blindness.... Who cares about dates? Why R U living in past?

JW doesn t care about dates and doesn t want to count anything and they tell to peopel not to do this but some people still can not forget about some mistakes made in past. People like U are still trying to discredit JW and this beautifull doctrine , only becouse of your own failure. I m sorry for U . :(

[TitusChapter1Verse11]

@iluzionistank They do care about dates iluzionistank. it's one of the things they have never been able to get away from since their founding. Russell started this organization under the impression that Jesus began his rule in 1874. If you read their Revelation book, you will see how important dates are to them. So the mistakes about dates were not just made in the past. They are falsely prophecying today.

[4thefaithful]

@iluzionistank "Who cares about dates? Why R U living in past?"

Watch the video again... 1919 is a major part of the course curriculum for The Gilead Training School! SO obviously the WT Society leaders care about dates very much!! I guess they are living in the past too.

[TitusChapter1Verse11]

@iluzionistank Sadly many that are not JWs anymore are not for all the wrong reasons (i.e. immorality, drugs, etc...). But even many that are df'd for these reasons still are held captive by the Watchtower. This video does not sound like someone full of themselves. The question posed at the end was "Can you prove from the Bible ITSELF, that 1919 is a prophetic date?"

Does it matter about dates? Yes. See Deut 18:20-22. Dates and false prophecy DO matter. (Matthew 24:11)

[ExGileadMissionary]

@TitusChapter1Verse11 Another JW sympathizing hit&run. You make an excellent point: All I'm asking is for JWs to provide proof (as in Acts 17:11) that what they believe is really in the Bible.

[CCaspian]

Interesting video - though I doubt that the current GB members believe in all those prophetic dramas and parallels. At least they havent been mentioned in the magazines for many years.

[ExGileadMissionary]

@CCaspian That's true. That's why I was so surprised at Gilead that these prophetic dramas were the focus of the curriculum. Seemed like total BS after a while.

[TitusChapter1Verse11]

@CCaspian They do still hold fast to 1919. See the 1/15/2008 WT. It says that when Jesus came to do his inspection of the worlds religions in 1918 it was only the Watchtower that proved to be his faithful and discreet slave. They were thereby appointed in 1919 as his slave class.

[CCaspian]

@TitusChapter1Verse11 True, I just meant that they dont speak much about those prophetic dramas anymor like Elijah, Hosea etc that were mentioned in this video.

[ExGileadMissionary]

@CCaspian Again, that's why Gilead was such an eye-opener rather than a faith strengthener

[sprintsanyo81]

New World Order was to be established within the 1919 gen,. Through the League of nations, than U.N.. They failed with these! An so the religon of the N.W.O. (Jehovahs Witnesses) has had to ajust there propaganda to fit there failures. Seach luciferian Eugenics this is the base of J.W. faith, however j.ws. dont know there beleive in. Wake them up!

[jaymurtii]

@sprintsanyo81 Good Stuff!

[tifiang]

Nice to see you making another video series! You always provide such sound reasoning about obscure and confusing JW doctrine. And congrats on going back to school - if you're middle aged, then I guess I am, too. What are you studying?

[ExGileadMissionary]

@tifiang Actually, I'm done with my MPA. Took me a year and a half...

[tifiang]

@ExGileadMissionary Nice! I still have about 2 more years to go. Working towards a MPH in nutrition/RD.

[BrittyK85]

@blepat sorry to tell you i didn't know. It just pisses me off when i see jws that aren't supposed to go an apostate video and bash the hell out of it. By no means do i support them in any way.

[PrintedTruth]

McWatchtower is selling greasy junk food disguised as spiritual food. It tastes good going down but leaves you with a sick feeling in your stomach. The focus on dates is part of the colorful packageing. I'm looking forward to the next video in your series.

[reeddr]

Very good subject. 1919 is the most critical date of the Society but most Witnesses cannot explain it and simply just accept it as an article of their faith. Examining this date and their claims about it led to my exit in the fall of 1992.

[Templehatchet]

Good to see your back exposing the WTBTS for what it is. I hope you do well with your post secondary education.

[THEREASONABLE]

I was never baptized put brought up in the faith. My parents are still JWs now.

What I always thought was strange about 1914 was the line "Millions now living will never die!" or words to that effect.

That generation is almost none existent now! But they'll probably just find a justification and change their beliefs like all religions!

[ExGileadMissionary]

@THEREASONABLE Well they have changed the generation a few times since 1995, and they now quote the judge as saying "Millions now living MAY never die".

[nathanaelstacy1]

Good video. I never really gave much thought to 1919 when I was a Witness (or since for that matter). Looking forward to the vids to come... Oh, and good to see another middle-aged ex-JW back in school. We should start our own online fraternity. :-)

[ExGileadMissionary]

@nathanaelstacy1 First time anyone has called me middle aged. Thanks, I think. I guess I'm not getting younger in this system of things, lol

[CSTheApostate]

Good to see you ExGilead, another excellent video.

[Revolt1680]

I don't think you're going to find any JWs who can explain 1919 at all, much less defend it. I know I was always confused about the way it fit into the puzzle and I am willing to bet that that's the reality with nearly everyone.

[ExGileadMissionary]

@Revolt1680 That's why I'm challenging them to defend their beliefs. I lost a relationship with members of my family because I began to doubt this. If they can't defend their beliefs with the Bible, then their shunning me is indefensible as well.

[Revolt1680]

@ExGileadMissionary Well, it is indefensible even if you've made a mistake, but you're right. Glad to see you back in the video-making groove! I really look forward to your videos!

[pianodavy]

Thank you for the useful reasoning. Really, I wish there were more people revealing the problems with this doctrine. Sadly, the public seems unaware of the serious and various damages this religion impacts on so many lives. You are very encouraging to those of us who have escaped.

[ExGileadMissionary]

@pianodavy Glad to hear that Davy.

[missdeckchair]

Nicely explained here EGM! I always enjoy your videos.

[jaymurtii]

Big ups on the JC Pennys suspenders,....jk...Glad to see you doing videos again.

[ExGileadMissionary]

@jaymurtii I dropped the suspenders along with the WT, lol

[akashafuhr]

Welcome back!

[blepat]

Hey xgm. You have a lack of faith (in the wts). You should know that it is God's channel of communication. You also should know that doubting or argueing about this is blasphemy and makes you a person that has left the path of salvation and that each faithfull jw must feel disgust for you as you have been handed over to Stn. Each jw knows this. So my message to each jw is. Close your eyes harder. Sing loud not to hear any apostate dirt-teaching and foremost dedicate yourself entirely to the wt.

[BrittyK85]

@blepat Okay if you know this then explain it. Make your own video as he requested and explain through your Bible. Prove him wrong if you like.

[MrIcetreyman]

@BrittyK85 The JWs can parrot the WBTS on the subject of 1914 and 1919,but using scripture ALONE, they can't explain it. The reason that they can't explain it from the bible is because the bible doesn't make reference to either year. That a Watchtower doctrine, NOT based on scripture.

[BrittyK85]

@MrIcetreyman I know that they can't explain it. i was just reiterating what ExGM said on his video.

[blepat]

@BrittyK85 Sorry to tell you but this was satirical. I know where I come from and I certainly know where I wont go back. Any true christians gathering in Luxembourg? lol

[MrIcetreyman]

@blepat You say that the WBTS is God's "channel of communication." What proof in scripture do they or you have of this? What I find is blasphemy is that a group of 9 men in New york claim that THEY and ONLY they have been directed by God's Spirit, and that they're the only ones that can accurately interpret the bible.

[ExGileadMissionary]

@blepat Thanks for the satire. I will get a few comments just like this, though

[blepat]

@ExGileadMissionary After thinking about it, I find it very disturbing that these crazy statements of mine must be viewed by most jw as valid. Sickening,no? Most enslaved are those who believe they are free.

[sammyinengland]

@blepat how do you know the wt is god's means of communication? where is your proof? in fact, where is your evidence?

[yorubablk3]

lol..1919 was simply the year after the end of world war 1 & the unobstructed beginning of the administration of J.F.Rutherford that culminated in the birth of a new religion in 1931 out of the reconstructed & formally Russelite International Bible Students Association.

[timmysquidfingers]

I've missed you, buddy.

[nerdynap]

The explanation of those dates by the WTBS made my head hurt, LOL. Thanks for this video.

[bananagraveyard]

Good video, nice to see your face again!

[betocool]

WOW! you look like you have been losing wight.

[ExGileadMissionary]

@betocool Unfortunately, its just a different webcam :(

[MrIcetreyman]

The doctrines on 1914 and 1919 never quite sat well with me. The bible makes no mention of either year.

[glowplug007]

SOOOOOOOOOOO glad your back! keep em comin!

[IzzyXgallY]

welcome back to YT!!!