Wow thanks greencastleblock, you must be a decent player. It looks tricky/tactical at the start but after analysing looks quite comfortably safe for black. Thanks, great upload.
What is not possible? Rd5? It was the 15th move of black and that is the only move. So let's play: 11. Qh3+ Kb8 12. Nxf7 Rd5 your move: 13. Nc3 my move: Rh5-> your queen is attacked
I think you might have made a mistake somewhere. Could you clarify?
After 10. Qb3 0-0-0, white does not have to play Knight takes f7. White can play Qh3+!, protecting the g2 square and attacking the Black King, and Black's position seems to be compromised, because e3 is not a threat anymore.
I'm still trying to figure out the best way to block/prevent Qh3+. Could you enlighten me? Thanks a lot! :)
(So here white plays Qh3+ as you say and you don't have to prevent it! The white Queen must stay at rank 3 to defend the king or e3 can be a threat and there is no other white piece which could defend the king and in case of e3 there will be later an .. Fc5+ from black and here must come a d4 Fxd4! Fe3, and the bishop is defended by the queen - if it is on the 3rd rank )
(9. .. g5 will not help, because the knight will move to h4 and will defend g2. And also 10. h3 seems to be bad after g5. I think you should never move the pawns in the front of your king until you must do it. )
But after 7. Nc3 Qxg2 8. Qf3 Qxf3 9. Nxf3 Bd7 it seems like white is pretty solid. Material is even again but at least you don't have any of those dangerous threats to deal with anymore. So wouldn't this be one of the more favorable variations for white to play? Or does Black have some advantage I just don't see? I suppose though that it is this very equalness that discourages white, because he is looking to have the advantage. I would probably still play this though, but what is your opinion?
I agree with dashwood. Its the Lolli that we have to worry about, not the fried liver. However this video (and the 4 Knights one) are brilliant. You really do know your openings and explain them very well.
i've noticed too that the computer engine prefers Bb7, but Bf5 is roughly equal so either one is completely playable, just play the one that seems more intuitive to you. anyway this opening cannot be played to perfection b/c it is inherently risky and pugnacious rather than surgical or technical. :)
I like the look of the Ulvestad variation and will certainly give it a whirl. For some reason I prefer to play against the FLA, I find it easy to cope with. OTOH I think the Lolli is very difficult to survive.
Nice video! I just tried the Ulvestad variation for the first time online and play went on 7. Bxc6+ Qxc6 8. O-O Bb7, and got a really strong attack. Unfortunately I missed the mate in 10 at move 16 and drew the endgame :) I will definitely want to play it again
You show a game where white castled to defend the g2 pawn and black castled queen side. This queen side castling is actually bad for black, as after Qh3+ ! the g2 pawn is safe and the knight can take on f7, according to rybka.
Yeah... that has been pointed out, Qh3+ was missed in the game I cited. Actually 9...e4 isn't good for Black, he should allow the Queen trade instead. 9...h6 10.Qxc6+ Bxc6 11.Nh3 Bc5 and 9...Bd6 are alternatives. In either case Black has the bishop pair and more space to compensate for the pawn minus.
Hey good video I have a question tho after black plays b5 the Ulvestad variation what
... b5
Bxb5 Qxdg
Bxc6 Qxc6 and g2 is still hanging what if white just plays his knight on g5 back to f3, that way it protects the g2 square and he can safely castle? what would be a good move for black or a good series of moves?
Okay so if at 3:38 White plays 8.Nf3, Black should play ..Bd6..Bb7..O-O-O and advance his pawns to attack the White kingside, try to prove that Black's center and development are worth a 'b' pawn. Never push ...e4 unless you're sure it's good, as the pawn on e4 blocks three of Black's pieces (N,Q,B)!
Trap alert: If 8.Nf3 Bd6 9.Qe2 Bb7, taking on e5 leads White to big trouble after 10.Nxe5 Bxe5 11.Qxe5+ Kf8!
Moral is: White needs to get the queenside pieces out.
Very nice work, Matt! I've played the Ulvestad (on & off) for many years and picked up a couple things.
For coverage of the ..Nxd4 main line, see the opening notes to the famous game Estrin-Berliner in the popular paperback The World's Greatest Chess Games by Nunn, Emms, & Burgess.
as black against e4 i play the sicillian or the french. after i saw this video, i hoped to get a few games where they play Bc4, but i didnt, and i would play this, but i dont respond 1. e4 e5 to avoid the Ruy lopez and other king pawn games. but this is certainly a very good opening
I went into the Fried Liver attack with the Black pieces sometimes, and had good success as White needs to play very energically in order to maintain the dynamic advantage. However, Nb4? is already a mistake, and Ne7 is the only move.
For Black, it is by far more inconvenient if White avoids the FLA and plays the calm, yet inconvenient Qf3! (instead of Nxf7), which leaves Black with a lack in development and a miserable pawn structure after Be6 Nxe6 fxe6.
On 6.Qf3, I prefer the defense 6...Qxg5 7.Bxd5 Nd8, holding b7 and f7. You are right, 6..Be6? is hideous, but it's not forced.
In the mainline Fried Liver (which I haven't studied recently because I don't play either side of it) 8...Ne7 and 8...Nb4 have about the same results in my database, so I assumed they were equally good. If you have to analysis to show that ...Ne7 is better, more power to you!
GreenCastle: thanks for Nd8!, which is a clear improvement on that line so far. It is true that you need good nerves if you play the Black side of the Fried Liver, but the advantage is a psychological one: the opponent, even if prepared, assumes to haul in the win effortlessly, whereas things are not so simple. I must ask for a little patience, but I'll provide my findings on this provocative line within the next weeks.
Ulvestadt is a very tricky line, as 6.Bf1! is very hard to find, when white in unprepared. Of course, white can maintain even game. But that's what makes black happy!
In the variation Nxf7 .I prefer C Knight on e7 than c4 because it protect the knight on e5, then if the dark bishop try to remove it, you can just protect the knight with c pawn.
Black can hold the attack. I think, because i've done it once.
Hey Matt! Keep up the good work! Try creating some endgame material as well. The chess community appreciates your efforts and your videos are very instructive for beginner to intermediate players.
Any ideas on how to counter this? Taking the knights allowed Qxc6 which looks very dangerous for me and by taking the Queens I feel as though I lost my initiative, any ideas?
6.Bxb5 Qxd5 7.Nc3 Qxg2 8.Qf3 Qxf3 9.Nxf3 Bd7 (with ...Bd6 and castling either way) should be solid. I can't think of anything better off the top of my head. That might be a good defensive variation for White.
Yes you're right about the first line. I'm mixing it up somehow, I think he might have moved the bishop back. I'll check up on that one when I log onto ICC next!
Thanks for this video Matt, I'm a fan of these little videos ever since ive used the Ulvestad several times against opponents and won, definitely my favourite of your videos. I think people just dont expect you to play b5. Many opponents have played Bb3 after b5 against me (just one played Bxb5 and i hammered him!). What do you recommend then? Ive always played Nd4 with good results.
Theres another video running around on youtube with these two russian sounded players who seem to say that after exd5 then instead of the Ulvestad (which itself i agree with you is a fantastic option) it goes ....Nd4, d6 Qxd6, Nx d7 Qc6 attacking white bishop and pawn on g2. This can then lead to smothered mate for black or winning material.
I believe the Ulvestad to be more subtle but this more direct approach does not seem to have any flaws either.
Nice video...i understood a lot; but my question is more strategic..In many of the variations, you recommend Black castling queenside, but it looks dangerous to me with the b-pawn missing and only the queen and bishop around to provide cover
I do know that its attacking etc. and may win for black with good play, but what exactly are the chances of surviving an attack on the black queenside in such positions against good play?
Black must attack in this variation because he's down a pawn. The missing pawn on b7 isn't usually dangerous because White doesn't have a lot of space to organize an assault.
You recommend Bc5 allowing 10.Qxf7 Kd8. The rest of your line depends on white bringing out the queen knight, but what if he castles instead? Seems all bad for black from there, maybe I am missing something?
I am just wondering, the video said that 6. Bf1 was the best move. I played a game as white in which the sequence was
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d4
5. exd4 b4
6. Bxb5 Qxd5
and I retreated the bishop to e2. Isn't that line ok as well? After that, my opponent blundered with 7. Be2 Qxg2? and I moved my bishop to f3. Here, my opponent resigned because after queen takes knight, my bishop would take his knight and fork his king and rook. I am just wondering if that was fine for white.
Blacks only response are 15. ...,Nc6 blocking the check but leaving the queen uncoverd or 15. ...,Qd7 blocking the check but allowing the queen to be captured. either way the queen will be captured and white will have made a huge material advantage. Thus making the exchange sacrifice was right.
a lot of people study the fried liver for cheap wins ,you find they are not so clever when they have to think up their own ideas ,the Ulvestad for me is very playable the best guy will win
i see bishop f1 online a lot ,but thats when they are cheating looking up opening on a data base ,thats what i reckon alway a pause before the move ,then i go out of book and they play rubbish
awsome video man, im definately gonna try this variation I haven't had a great deal of sucess with the standard knight goes to a5 threatening bishop. Thanks and welldone.
but i analysed it on my own and at 04:37 i think the white queen can go to h3 with check and also protecting the mate on g7 so black has not engough time for a counterattack has he? what you think?
No, Funacca is right, Qb3 O-O-O is weak because of Qh3. Something the players in the game I was following missed, and I also missed.
Since O-O-O is bad, 9...e4 must be bad. 9...Bd6 seems reasonable - Black will have some compensation even in the queenless ending, but White's a bit better.
On 5:58 bishop goes to f2 resulting in a queen fork with knight f6. If king goes to d1 then bishop g4 checkmate. If king goes f1.. bishop a6 and pawn exchang will lead to a forced queen fork. Just something ive noticed... nice videos
There was a very interesting video lesson about this variation on Chess fm where Larry Christiansen talked so deeply about it but i can't find it anymore (maybe we have to be inscripted now to see it)and I don't remember at all the very complicated lines and alternatives where black could respond to c3 kicking the knight on d4, there was a match that showed very well what to do with black in all situacions, I don't remember which one! So if my memory is so bad why to play chess? Who can help me?
Ok the main line go on with Nd4 and after c3 kicking the knight black simply responds with Nxd5. the best for white seems to be 8)Ne4, better than Nxf7, and black in the spirit of the two Knights defense attacks with Qh4 activating another piece. After 9)Ng3 asking black what he wants to do with his knight defending his b5 pawn black plays Bg4 and with f3 it seems to have two peaces under attack but the point is that after 10)...e4 the bishop is untakeble for Ad6.
the analyzed game continues with 11 cxd4...bd6;12 Bxb5...kd8 13) 00, ...exf3 14)Qb3 NB4 15Rxf3...Rb8 16) Na3...c6. I found that video I was looking for and I think we need the two videos to understand all subvariations without fear.
this is very good as long as the bishop takes the bait, but i've played many players online and usually they just drop their bishop back to b3...once this happens their next move is usually Nxf7...followed by dxc6 winning a knight...i've played around w/ this couple of times and still is trying to figure out how to defend these two successive moves.
Great Video. This is better than a lot of the Chess Videos I bought. Very clearly stated, and very well organized. I definately going to use this in my blitz games. Thanks!
I'm actually very interested in the opening play of chess. I enjoyed this clip very much, but would just like to offer a suggestion or rather something that you didn't seem to cover in this clip. In the gist of this presentation 1)e4 e5 2)Nf3 Nc6 3)Bc4 Nf6 4)Ng5 d5 5)exd5 b5 6)Bxb5 Qxd5, 7)Be2!? looks like a good, interesting alternative to be reckoned with. I seek further clarifications and criticisms from everyone else. Thanks in advance.
There's really no need for apologies. I'm glad if any of my suggestions may make this wonderful clip of yours more 'perfect'. And, while you seem to be a practicioner of Black in the 2 knights, I happen to be one of White:) I guess 6.Bxb5 Qxd5 7.Be2 might be more acceptable for (new) players who don't like to make the 'retreat move' 6.Bf1
My last contribution here for now. In the 'popular variation' 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Na5 6.Bb5+ c6 7.Qf3!? is also interesting, for players themselves to consider about ^Ô^
well....after Nd4 where u said black is comfortable i think c3 kicking the knight and also protecting the bishop with the queen would be a good answer thoughts???
Just Nxb3; Qxb3 Qxd5. Black gets the pawn back, and is left with more space after either Qxd5 Nxd5 or O-O Bb7. It's probably equal, but I would take Black.
6...b5 7.Bb3 Nd4 is very comfortable for Black. White will have to lose time retreating his knight... if Ng5-f3 then ...Bg4 can be quite annoying in some lines with the White bishop stuck out on b3. Plus, Black can play Nxb3 whenever he wants; this is never any real pressure on f7.
Your move is not stupid, it's just not the best way of challenging what Black is doing :-)
That would be ...Qxg2. This is why White should play his Bishop back to f1, to defend this pawn so that ...Qxd5 does not attack the g pawn.
In the future please give either a time or a full move order... I was able to figure out what position you were talking about this time, but next time... :-)
Hi. This is meant to be an introduction to the variation. It's hard to go into detail when you only have 10:00 to work with.
It's nice to know that advanced chess players watch my videos, but my main audience is middle-strength players who need broad ideas explained more than they need discussions of specific variations. Hope that made sense. Thanks for writing
thanks, splendid work
gologram 3 weeks ago
@moviecritic6 after 5.exd5 nd4. white would play c3
MrMizuno05 2 months ago
After 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 b5 6. Bf1 h6 7. Nxf7 Kxf7 8. dxc6 Bc5 9. Bxb5, what continuation do you suggest for Black? Black seems clearly losing in this position.
zschuah 5 months ago
Hey Matt, what about 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 b5 6. Bf1 Bg4?
zschuah 5 months ago
....now the black e pawn is turning into a monster lol
25redzombie 8 months ago
I just prefer 1. e4 e5 2. nf3 nc6 3. bc4 nf6 4. ng5 d5 5. exd5 nd4!
moviecritic6 8 months ago
yea, i think i will adopt this defense.
plus, your method of delivery was really well done.
not only is the opening cool, your delivery was exceptional!
very inspiring.
thank you.
felren13 9 months ago
but what if on 7th move white goes b3. I found it very hard line. Cause of Qg2 and after that white response is Qf3.
Estzenify 10 months ago
but what if on 7th move white goes b4. I found it very hard line. Cause of Qg2 and after that white response is Qf3.
Estzenify 10 months ago
very instructive, thanks. I just got a book "wit begint"(dutch) dealing with this opening.
ajvpmr 1 year ago
I normally play
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nd4
With the trap line if white feels greedy. 6. d6 Qxd6 7. Nxf7 Qc6 8. Nxh8 Qxg2 9. Rf1 Qe4+ 10. Be2 Nf3#
But I think I will start playing this because it is more sound.
F2L4Life 1 year ago
what about if:
7. Nc3 Qxg2
8. Qf3?
storbisse 1 year ago
Another common move one sees after pawn to B5 is white bishop to B3 maintaining the threat of fried liver etc.
Nocturne9999 1 year ago
@Nocturne9999 5...b5 6.Bb3 Nd4 is very comfortable for Black.
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago
@GreenCastleBlock best video about two knights defense!!!! thank you!
FDGOD74 1 year ago
Wow thanks greencastleblock, you must be a decent player. It looks tricky/tactical at the start but after analysing looks quite comfortably safe for black. Thanks, great upload.
mikenugo 1 year ago
my personal favorite defense
white (i usually play) owns the middle with proper handling
HomicidalAxe 2 years ago
Thank you very much GreenCastleBlock....important lesson!!!
Maghnoues32 2 years ago
Thanks, I have a lot of succes with this in Blitz games. :D 5 stars
Shoarmaboer20 2 years ago
great vid.
joeltopgun 2 years ago
What is not possible? Rd5? It was the 15th move of black and that is the only move. So let's play: 11. Qh3+ Kb8 12. Nxf7 Rd5 your move: 13. Nc3 my move: Rh5-> your queen is attacked
A 14 Qe3 Fc5
B 14 Qg3 Qe8
mgoogyi 2 years ago
OH, okok my bad. Thanks for the help! :)
zschuah 2 years ago
Hey Matt,
I think you might have made a mistake somewhere. Could you clarify?
After 10. Qb3 0-0-0, white does not have to play Knight takes f7. White can play Qh3+!, protecting the g2 square and attacking the Black King, and Black's position seems to be compromised, because e3 is not a threat anymore.
I'm still trying to figure out the best way to block/prevent Qh3+. Could you enlighten me? Thanks a lot! :)
zschuah 2 years ago
Hi,
Part1:
Matt is not my name..
But ok:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 b5 6. Bxb5 Qxd5 7. Bxc6+ Qxc6
8. O-O Bb7 9. Qf3 e4 10. Qb3 O-O-O
mgoogyi 2 years ago
lol, i was hoping GreenCastleBlock could address this issue
zschuah 2 years ago
Part2:
(So here white plays Qh3+ as you say and you don't have to prevent it! The white Queen must stay at rank 3 to defend the king or e3 can be a threat and there is no other white piece which could defend the king and in case of e3 there will be later an .. Fc5+ from black and here must come a d4 Fxd4! Fe3, and the bishop is defended by the queen - if it is on the 3rd rank )
mgoogyi 2 years ago
Part3:
11. Qh3+ Kb8 Now 12. Nxf7(This knight has not too many choices) Rd5! 13. Nxh8 Rh5!
A) 14 Qb3 Fc5 15. any white move , e3 or e4xanything and white must play 16. Qxb7 to prevent mate
B) 14 Qe3 Fc5 15 Qe2 Qd6! 16. Qxh5 or 16. g3 and Qd7,Qh3,Qh2#
C) 14 Qe3 Fc5 15. d4 Ng4...
D)14 Qg3 Fd6 ...
Qc3 usually met by Fc5
etc. I cannot provide you all the variations..:)
mgoogyi 2 years ago
7:19 lol
Wismer1987 2 years ago
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 b5 6. Bxb5 Qxd5 7. Bxc6+ Qxc6
8. O-O Bb7
I think here the only move is 9. Nf3!
(9. .. g5 will not help, because the knight will move to h4 and will defend g2. And also 10. h3 seems to be bad after g5. I think you should never move the pawns in the front of your king until you must do it. )
Then I think 9.. Bc5!
mgoogyi 2 years ago
Ridiculous! After 10. Nh4?, g5 will take the Knight on h4.
zschuah 2 years ago
Nh4 is after g5-g4 of course.
mgoogyi 2 years ago
nyc
eugeneFred21 2 years ago
sweet analysis, thanks
chipdouglas42 2 years ago
what about
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 b5 6. Bxb5 Qxd5 7. Nc3 ????
illidan333 2 years ago
Nc3 does not deserve that many question marks, although it does allow ...Qxg2.
GreenCastleBlock 2 years ago
But after 7. Nc3 Qxg2 8. Qf3 Qxf3 9. Nxf3 Bd7 it seems like white is pretty solid. Material is even again but at least you don't have any of those dangerous threats to deal with anymore. So wouldn't this be one of the more favorable variations for white to play? Or does Black have some advantage I just don't see? I suppose though that it is this very equalness that discourages white, because he is looking to have the advantage. I would probably still play this though, but what is your opinion?
brocksampson913 2 years ago
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storbisse 1 year ago
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storbisse 1 year ago
After 5... b5, will not dxc6 occur more often? Could you do a video on it maybe?
ramtamsen 2 years ago
No, it does not occur very often. I seem to recall playing a game that went 6...dxc4 7.Qe2 Qd5 8.f4 e4 9.Nc3 Qxc6 and an interesting ending arose.
An alternative would be 7...Bd6 8.Qxc4 O-O simply developing and rounding up the c6 pawn later.
GreenCastleBlock 2 years ago
Nice video!
rolfch1p 2 years ago
GreenCastleBlock you helped me so much!! thank you and 5/5 stars :D
dareyfairy 2 years ago 2
I agree with dashwood. Its the Lolli that we have to worry about, not the fried liver. However this video (and the 4 Knights one) are brilliant. You really do know your openings and explain them very well.
MarksmansTarget 3 years ago
thanx for this clip but in 7:22 isn't better with Bb7? You make then a pin on the knight on e4 and on the pawn on g2?
P.S sorry if someone already have pointed this out, I haven't yet read your posts.
Richardeanderson 3 years ago 2
i've noticed too that the computer engine prefers Bb7, but Bf5 is roughly equal so either one is completely playable, just play the one that seems more intuitive to you. anyway this opening cannot be played to perfection b/c it is inherently risky and pugnacious rather than surgical or technical. :)
pgbollig 2 years ago
Nice. really helps
Burnokkk 3 years ago
Very good video, thanks.
I like the look of the Ulvestad variation and will certainly give it a whirl. For some reason I prefer to play against the FLA, I find it easy to cope with. OTOH I think the Lolli is very difficult to survive.
dashwood123 3 years ago
Nice video! I just tried the Ulvestad variation for the first time online and play went on 7. Bxc6+ Qxc6 8. O-O Bb7, and got a really strong attack. Unfortunately I missed the mate in 10 at move 16 and drew the endgame :) I will definitely want to play it again
waparker4 3 years ago
Very nice! I will be using this opening soon once I get it engraved in my head.
dgrakovsky 3 years ago
disregard my last comment. what if after Qxc6, o-o-o, then b7, then Qf3, then pawn e4, then rook e1???
bboyxchristian 3 years ago
after white pushes his pawn to e4, what if rook e1?
bboyxchristian 3 years ago
Very nice tutorial...
Masked011a 3 years ago
You show a game where white castled to defend the g2 pawn and black castled queen side. This queen side castling is actually bad for black, as after Qh3+ ! the g2 pawn is safe and the knight can take on f7, according to rybka.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 b5 6. Bxb5 Qxd5 7. Bxc6+ Qxc6
8. O-O Bb7 9. Qf3 e4 10. Qb3 O-O-O 11. Qh3+ Kb8 12. Nxf7 . Rybka gives 1.51 advantage to white ...
ploucroux 3 years ago
Yeah... that has been pointed out, Qh3+ was missed in the game I cited. Actually 9...e4 isn't good for Black, he should allow the Queen trade instead. 9...h6 10.Qxc6+ Bxc6 11.Nh3 Bc5 and 9...Bd6 are alternatives. In either case Black has the bishop pair and more space to compensate for the pawn minus.
GreenCastleBlock 3 years ago
Black has a forced win after 12 .. Rd5 13. Nxh8 Rh5 14. Qe3 Bc5 etc. Try to run your rybka more and you will see that black wins anyway.
mgoogyi 2 years ago
So again:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 b5 6. Bxb5 Qxd5 7. Bxc6+ Qxc6
8. O-O Bb7 9. Qf3 e4 10. Qb3 O-O-O 11. Qh3+ Kb8 12. Nxf7 . Rybka gives 1.51 advantage to white ... but after 12 .. Rd5 13. Nxh8 Rh5 14. Qe3, Ng4 black will win anyway.
mgoogyi 2 years ago
Hey good video I have a question tho after black plays b5 the Ulvestad variation what
... b5
Bxb5 Qxdg
Bxc6 Qxc6 and g2 is still hanging what if white just plays his knight on g5 back to f3, that way it protects the g2 square and he can safely castle? what would be a good move for black or a good series of moves?
clevelandbarons97 3 years ago
Okay so if at 3:38 White plays 8.Nf3, Black should play ..Bd6..Bb7..O-O-O and advance his pawns to attack the White kingside, try to prove that Black's center and development are worth a 'b' pawn. Never push ...e4 unless you're sure it's good, as the pawn on e4 blocks three of Black's pieces (N,Q,B)!
Trap alert: If 8.Nf3 Bd6 9.Qe2 Bb7, taking on e5 leads White to big trouble after 10.Nxe5 Bxe5 11.Qxe5+ Kf8!
Moral is: White needs to get the queenside pieces out.
GreenCastleBlock 3 years ago
ahh i see, thank you very much i like that little trap!
clevelandbarons97 3 years ago
a stronger move for white would be knight on c3, developing pieces, guarding bishop and attacking Queen at the same time:
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 b5
6. Bxb5 Qxd5
7. Nc3
and if 7. ... Qxg2
then 8. Qf3 Qxg5
9. Qxc6+
Quickfitfitter 3 years ago
7.Nc3 Qxg2
8.Qf3 Qxf3
9.Nxf3 Bd7 is equal, as White cannot win a pawn.
GreenCastleBlock 3 years ago
Just awsome...
StrokaviMozak 3 years ago
Nah i get it it's to protect G2. Sorry i'm a bit tired.
Carabin33fr 3 years ago
Hi, i understand why you should move the bishop back but why all the way to F1?
Carabin33fr 3 years ago
Great video!
dinosaureu 3 years ago
Very nice work, Matt! I've played the Ulvestad (on & off) for many years and picked up a couple things.
For coverage of the ..Nxd4 main line, see the opening notes to the famous game Estrin-Berliner in the popular paperback The World's Greatest Chess Games by Nunn, Emms, & Burgess.
billbrock1958 3 years ago
as black against e4 i play the sicillian or the french. after i saw this video, i hoped to get a few games where they play Bc4, but i didnt, and i would play this, but i dont respond 1. e4 e5 to avoid the Ruy lopez and other king pawn games. but this is certainly a very good opening
MAfr3ak 3 years ago
of all the chess videos i have seen on youtube, this one is single handedly responsible for most of my wins with black, great job!
madcapslaugh 3 years ago 2
I went into the Fried Liver attack with the Black pieces sometimes, and had good success as White needs to play very energically in order to maintain the dynamic advantage. However, Nb4? is already a mistake, and Ne7 is the only move.
For Black, it is by far more inconvenient if White avoids the FLA and plays the calm, yet inconvenient Qf3! (instead of Nxf7), which leaves Black with a lack in development and a miserable pawn structure after Be6 Nxe6 fxe6.
charms2 3 years ago
On 6.Qf3, I prefer the defense 6...Qxg5 7.Bxd5 Nd8, holding b7 and f7. You are right, 6..Be6? is hideous, but it's not forced.
In the mainline Fried Liver (which I haven't studied recently because I don't play either side of it) 8...Ne7 and 8...Nb4 have about the same results in my database, so I assumed they were equally good. If you have to analysis to show that ...Ne7 is better, more power to you!
GreenCastleBlock 3 years ago
GreenCastle: thanks for Nd8!, which is a clear improvement on that line so far. It is true that you need good nerves if you play the Black side of the Fried Liver, but the advantage is a psychological one: the opponent, even if prepared, assumes to haul in the win effortlessly, whereas things are not so simple. I must ask for a little patience, but I'll provide my findings on this provocative line within the next weeks.
charms2 3 years ago
Ulvestadt is a very tricky line, as 6.Bf1! is very hard to find, when white in unprepared. Of course, white can maintain even game. But that's what makes black happy!
zajacfronda 3 years ago
In the variation Nxf7 .I prefer C Knight on e7 than c4 because it protect the knight on e5, then if the dark bishop try to remove it, you can just protect the knight with c pawn.
Black can hold the attack. I think, because i've done it once.
DamnControl2 3 years ago
Hey Matt! Keep up the good work! Try creating some endgame material as well. The chess community appreciates your efforts and your videos are very instructive for beginner to intermediate players.
mikko522 3 years ago
Thanks. I have made some endgame videos, look here: view_play_list?p=BB413FB7AD398B10
GreenCastleBlock 3 years ago
good video
chessisthegame 4 years ago
The second line was in a tournament..
6. Bxb5 Qxd5
7. Nc3 Qxg7
8. Qf3
Any ideas on how to counter this? Taking the knights allowed Qxc6 which looks very dangerous for me and by taking the Queens I feel as though I lost my initiative, any ideas?
aaronmcc23 4 years ago
6.Bxb5 Qxd5 7.Nc3 Qxg2 8.Qf3 Qxf3 9.Nxf3 Bd7 (with ...Bd6 and castling either way) should be solid. I can't think of anything better off the top of my head. That might be a good defensive variation for White.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
I have an interesting couple of lines which were played against me. The first was on a blitz game on ICC which went..
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 b5
6. Nxf7!
I got into a really bad position here, any ideas on what to play?
aaronmcc23 4 years ago
6.Nxf7? Kxf7 just wins a piece. I see no followup for White.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
Yes you're right about the first line. I'm mixing it up somehow, I think he might have moved the bishop back. I'll check up on that one when I log onto ICC next!
aaronmcc23 4 years ago
THANKS
gologram 4 years ago
computer never does any of these moves so i cant use them
tacoma203 4 years ago
On some computer programs--like Chessmaster 8000--you can set up pieces.
noraklagrangian 4 years ago
Thanks for this video Matt, I'm a fan of these little videos ever since ive used the Ulvestad several times against opponents and won, definitely my favourite of your videos. I think people just dont expect you to play b5. Many opponents have played Bb3 after b5 against me (just one played Bxb5 and i hammered him!). What do you recommend then? Ive always played Nd4 with good results.
kushtyman 4 years ago
Black should have no problems after ...Nd4.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
Theres another video running around on youtube with these two russian sounded players who seem to say that after exd5 then instead of the Ulvestad (which itself i agree with you is a fantastic option) it goes ....Nd4, d6 Qxd6, Nx d7 Qc6 attacking white bishop and pawn on g2. This can then lead to smothered mate for black or winning material.
I believe the Ulvestad to be more subtle but this more direct approach does not seem to have any flaws either.
I feel the U
kushtyman 4 years ago
5...Nd4 is called the Fritz Variation, also a good defense.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
Nice video...i understood a lot; but my question is more strategic..In many of the variations, you recommend Black castling queenside, but it looks dangerous to me with the b-pawn missing and only the queen and bishop around to provide cover
I do know that its attacking etc. and may win for black with good play, but what exactly are the chances of surviving an attack on the black queenside in such positions against good play?
hailzooter 4 years ago
Black must attack in this variation because he's down a pawn. The missing pawn on b7 isn't usually dangerous because White doesn't have a lot of space to organize an assault.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
Great video, but I have a question.
After:
4... d5
5.exd5 b5
6.Bxb5 Qxd5
7.Bxc6 Qxc6
8.Qf3 e4
9.Qb3
You recommend Bc5 allowing 10.Qxf7 Kd8. The rest of your line depends on white bringing out the queen knight, but what if he castles instead? Seems all bad for black from there, maybe I am missing something?
minnarky 4 years ago
11.O-O Rf8
12.Qxg7 Rg8
13.Qh6 Bb7 threatening e3 looks like a dangerous attack.
14. Kh1 e3 15. f3 e2 16. Re1 Ng4 gives Black at least perpetual check. Maybe you can find an improvement?
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
I am just wondering, the video said that 6. Bf1 was the best move. I played a game as white in which the sequence was
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d4
5. exd4 b4
6. Bxb5 Qxd5
and I retreated the bishop to e2. Isn't that line ok as well? After that, my opponent blundered with 7. Be2 Qxg2? and I moved my bishop to f3. Here, my opponent resigned because after queen takes knight, my bishop would take his knight and fork his king and rook. I am just wondering if that was fine for white.
annelidpathogen 4 years ago
6.Bf1 has the best reputation. Your way of playing seems reasonable, however.
6.Bxb5 Qxd5
7.Be2 Bb7
8.d3 (forced, now that the Nc6 is guarded Black threatens Qxg2, so White guards the Ng5) Nd4
9.Nf3 (f3 is passive but also an option) Nxe2 10.Qxe2 Bd6
Black is down a pawn but has compensation typical of the whole variation.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
Anyone realize that after Ncb4 black is threatening Nxc2+ winning a rook?
cheeseischocolate4 4 years ago
I forgot the beginning.
1.e4,e5;
2.Nf3,Nc6;
3.Bc4,Nf6;
4.Ng5,d5;
5.exd5,Nxd5;
6.Nxf7,Kxf7;
7.Qf3+,Ke6
8.Nc3,Nce7
cheeseischocolate4 4 years ago
9. d4, c6;
10 .Bg5, Kd7;
11. dxe5, Ke8;
12. 0-0-0, Be6;
13. Nxd5, Bxd5;
14. Rxd5!!, cxd5;
15. Bb5+,
Blacks only response are 15. ...,Nc6 blocking the check but leaving the queen uncoverd or 15. ...,Qd7 blocking the check but allowing the queen to be captured. either way the queen will be captured and white will have made a huge material advantage. Thus making the exchange sacrifice was right.
cheeseischocolate4 4 years ago
Nice video, thankyou.
chipdouglas42 4 years ago
great video i play the Ulvestad Variation
a lot of people study the fried liver for cheap wins ,you find they are not so clever when they have to think up their own ideas ,the Ulvestad for me is very playable the best guy will win
sausage4mash 4 years ago
wow that game you showed i played move for move, i must be a grand master :-)
sausage4mash 4 years ago
i see bishop f1 online a lot ,but thats when they are cheating looking up opening on a data base ,thats what i reckon alway a pause before the move ,then i go out of book and they play rubbish
sausage4mash 4 years ago
ive seen this video about 5 times already, and i keep liking it more and more. keep up the good work!
Masky 4 years ago
awsome video man, im definately gonna try this variation I haven't had a great deal of sucess with the standard knight goes to a5 threatening bishop. Thanks and welldone.
taipan342 4 years ago
hello
first nice video
but i analysed it on my own and at 04:37 i think the white queen can go to h3 with check and also protecting the mate on g7 so black has not engough time for a counterattack has he? what you think?
Funacca 4 years ago
Um. Whaa? Qh3 isnt check, the KBP protects the king. Also: Qh3 = NxQ, an absolutely terrible move
Tiwaking 4 years ago
No, Funacca is right, Qb3 O-O-O is weak because of Qh3. Something the players in the game I was following missed, and I also missed.
Since O-O-O is bad, 9...e4 must be bad. 9...Bd6 seems reasonable - Black will have some compensation even in the queenless ending, but White's a bit better.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
2 KNIGHTS DEFENSE (ULVESTAD VERSION)
On 5:58 bishop goes to f2 resulting in a queen fork with knight f6. If king goes to d1 then bishop g4 checkmate. If king goes f1.. bishop a6 and pawn exchang will lead to a forced queen fork. Just something ive noticed... nice videos
MaskedAssailant08 4 years ago
hahahahahahahaha, I never reply e5 to e4.
liebstandarteadolf 4 years ago
With the fried liver what whould you do if one moved the knight to E7 instead of B4 to defend his knight
cafox24 4 years ago
Fritz says d4 to attack the e5 pawn and enable development of black-square bishop (Q's B). However, this permits c6, the fried liver bust (IMHO).
maquesphakdor 4 years ago
There was a very interesting video lesson about this variation on Chess fm where Larry Christiansen talked so deeply about it but i can't find it anymore (maybe we have to be inscripted now to see it)and I don't remember at all the very complicated lines and alternatives where black could respond to c3 kicking the knight on d4, there was a match that showed very well what to do with black in all situacions, I don't remember which one! So if my memory is so bad why to play chess? Who can help me?
manuelperr 4 years ago
Ok the main line go on with Nd4 and after c3 kicking the knight black simply responds with Nxd5. the best for white seems to be 8)Ne4, better than Nxf7, and black in the spirit of the two Knights defense attacks with Qh4 activating another piece. After 9)Ng3 asking black what he wants to do with his knight defending his b5 pawn black plays Bg4 and with f3 it seems to have two peaces under attack but the point is that after 10)...e4 the bishop is untakeble for Ad6.
manuelperr 4 years ago
the analyzed game continues with 11 cxd4...bd6;12 Bxb5...kd8 13) 00, ...exf3 14)Qb3 NB4 15Rxf3...Rb8 16) Na3...c6. I found that video I was looking for and I think we need the two videos to understand all subvariations without fear.
manuelperr 4 years ago
this is very good as long as the bishop takes the bait, but i've played many players online and usually they just drop their bishop back to b3...once this happens their next move is usually Nxf7...followed by dxc6 winning a knight...i've played around w/ this couple of times and still is trying to figure out how to defend these two successive moves.
acetamin0phen 4 years ago
5...b5 6.Bb3 Nd4 equalizes. See my response to cafox24's comment.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
Great Video. This is better than a lot of the Chess Videos I bought. Very clearly stated, and very well organized. I definately going to use this in my blitz games. Thanks!
lachessleague 4 years ago
Dear GreenCastleBlock
I'm actually very interested in the opening play of chess. I enjoyed this clip very much, but would just like to offer a suggestion or rather something that you didn't seem to cover in this clip. In the gist of this presentation 1)e4 e5 2)Nf3 Nc6 3)Bc4 Nf6 4)Ng5 d5 5)exd5 b5 6)Bxb5 Qxd5, 7)Be2!? looks like a good, interesting alternative to be reckoned with. I seek further clarifications and criticisms from everyone else. Thanks in advance.
ongyj 4 years ago
That is a solid choice for White, comparable to the main lines with 6.Bf1. Sorry for not covering it, the vid is 9:55 already :-)
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
There's really no need for apologies. I'm glad if any of my suggestions may make this wonderful clip of yours more 'perfect'. And, while you seem to be a practicioner of Black in the 2 knights, I happen to be one of White:) I guess 6.Bxb5 Qxd5 7.Be2 might be more acceptable for (new) players who don't like to make the 'retreat move' 6.Bf1
ongyj 4 years ago
My last contribution here for now. In the 'popular variation' 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Na5 6.Bb5+ c6 7.Qf3!? is also interesting, for players themselves to consider about ^Ô^
ongyj 4 years ago
oops its 7.dxc6 bxc6 8.Qf3
ongyj 4 years ago
Yeah your about right , but it was worth a look
cafox24 4 years ago
well....after Nd4 where u said black is comfortable i think c3 kicking the knight and also protecting the bishop with the queen would be a good answer thoughts???
cafox24 4 years ago
Just Nxb3; Qxb3 Qxd5. Black gets the pawn back, and is left with more space after either Qxd5 Nxd5 or O-O Bb7. It's probably equal, but I would take Black.
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
In the Ulvestad When you play B5 why cant the Bishop just slide back to B3...am i being stupid did i miss something????? Thoughts??
cafox24 4 years ago
6...b5 7.Bb3 Nd4 is very comfortable for Black. White will have to lose time retreating his knight... if Ng5-f3 then ...Bg4 can be quite annoying in some lines with the White bishop stuck out on b3. Plus, Black can play Nxb3 whenever he wants; this is never any real pressure on f7.
Your move is not stupid, it's just not the best way of challenging what Black is doing :-)
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
what is black's answer to Nc3,protecting the bishop and attacking the black queen after the black queen takes the pawn on d5?
leatherlung1984 4 years ago
That would be ...Qxg2. This is why White should play his Bishop back to f1, to defend this pawn so that ...Qxd5 does not attack the g pawn.
In the future please give either a time or a full move order... I was able to figure out what position you were talking about this time, but next time... :-)
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
very good explanation but why don't u develop more deep this variations for advanced player this information is not enough
x33mmm 4 years ago
Hi. This is meant to be an introduction to the variation. It's hard to go into detail when you only have 10:00 to work with.
It's nice to know that advanced chess players watch my videos, but my main audience is middle-strength players who need broad ideas explained more than they need discussions of specific variations. Hope that made sense. Thanks for writing
GreenCastleBlock 4 years ago
another great video, More please!
piecemaker3180 4 years ago
I really love your videos. Absolutely informative.
Nagare89 4 years ago
Wow that's really good work. Thank u
candidatemaster 4 years ago
Sweet, thanks!
cadabraa 4 years ago
i like all your videos, very informative
nhat8121 4 years ago