Robert Kilroy Silk is a muppet (Question Time, 05.11.09)

[MrHarrylime79]

Stadler or Waldorf?

[vegasable]

shes a fuking arsehole shes up against the grand master of chat and just made herself look like a fukin idiot way her imature sarcastic foolish rant stick that inyur pipe and puff it

[ferfookssekelad]

what's with all the kilroy hate? sheep mentality.

[4libertarianism]

By resorting to baseless insults, Kilroy's fellow panelist demeaned herself to his level.

[NottinghamForest22]

1:24 - 1:32 well said Kilroy.

[valarmanwe]

I notice that many of these kind of videos have comments disabled. If I can`t comment on a video, I don`t watch it.

[tubehows4life]

@DethMetal4All101 Insubordination may be important to the army, but it is all relative, and NOTHING to a bereaved Iraqi family, who have no interest in the British Army's rules and cultures.

If faced with it, I wont kill Iraqis, simple as that. Being "not allowed" to or "cant" refuse is irrelevant, the army has no choice. Insubordination may sound scary, any "heroic" soldiers would powerfully state why the war was wrong at the tribunal, and be heroes to the public.

[tubehows4life]

Oh I forgot to add re your last point, yes I'm sure the civilian courts would be involved too, but the comparison still stands bewtween WW1 consequences and today's. Besides, for what its worth, it would have been political suicide if more than a few British soldiers had been punished in the law courts for being conciousness objectors to the Iraq war.

I have mixed emotions about the soldiers, as I'm sure their traumas on the battlefield are very serious too, all the more reason to not do this!

[tubehows4life]

@DethMetal4All101 Soldiers were amongst the conscientious objectors in WW1 too, and I have way more sympathy for them than I do for Iraq vets, given the consequences.

If Iraq soldiers did the same its not that there would be no army, but that the government would be more careful in their war choices. My criticism goes up the army chain right through to the Generals. Why did none of them refuse up and down the hierarchy.

[tubehows4life]

@DethMetal4All101 Court marshal or a dead Iraqi and his bereaved family? Sorry to be morbid but thats the dynamic. A court marshal is nothing compared to the latter, conscience must come into play, and like I said they were refusing to go to war in WW1 even though they were being executed, so these soldiers arent all that heroic given they wouldn't be shot but would just get a court marshal, they dont "have to" follow anything, order or not, dead Iraqis are more important than army regulations.

[tubehows4life]

@DethMetal4All101 Why pick your point in time at the end point? Yes if someone is pointing a gun at you the natural instinct is to defend yourself, that fine. If you read my posts with any detail you would have recognised that I said they shouldn't have agreed to go there in the first place.

[Jarvisdoctor]

Well all I can say is that I have more respect for you having an answer (and a valid one) than the comedian in that vid who didn't had one and stooped to cracking a joke (and a unfunny one at that. I don't know what everyone was laughing at). By doing that all she did was make herself look bad and Kilroy look good from my perspective.

[tubehows4life]

@Jarvisdoctor Agreed on the woman. She was childish and the audience is childish to applaud it. Question Time is a pretty cheap show dressed up as intellectual and important IMO.

[Jarvisdoctor]

@tubehows4life lol Well, that's two things we agree on then. But thanks for pointing out where I wrong and I do sincerely mean that.

[tubehows4life]

"Insubordination is a major deal!" Hardly, in WW1, you had soldiers refusing to fight in an immoral war thats was costing countless lives. They were conscientious objectors, and they were lined up and shot for their beliefs. With Iraq you have a wrong war costing countless lives and these soldiers are not refusing to take part even though they wouldnt be lined up and shot. These soldiers are sheep. Court martial and lost income? Ooh scary, give me a break. Not killing Iraqis is more important.

[julian185]

absolute no love kilroy-silk...but that was a bit weak..especially since hes a bona-fide twat and therefore ripe for decent pwning

[caturn88]

Killroy is what he is, but his line was the best "Its an easy line", that is a good one. Her joke was funny but because of the audience its all to cunt. This fucking programme is a load of shit, look at the camera zoom on all the pakkies as if that's a genuine cross section of society!

Bullshit, plus she's not that talented a comedian, i mean, if that's all it takes to bring the house down anybody could do it.

[1Thompsonmusic]

Kilroy can get out of anything, as he's always right.

[jbarks10]

natalie haynes is an ugly whore. I'd laugh if she got beaten the fuck out of.

[CitizenAngel]

That was a low cheap shot on that smug, self satisfied woman's part, like him or not Kilroy had a point when he said it wasn't the soldiers fault It's the politicians who have sent them to war. What I find disappointing is that the audience laughed at that unfunny crack. She was trying (unsuccessfully) to swerve around a valid point and ended up making herself look like an ignorant fool.

[wilsonnortheast]

@CitizenAngel It may not be the soldiers fault but the soldiers have a responsibility to themselves to the Afghan and Iraqi civilians and to us. If a plan of action or a strategy or a policy is not working or is illegal or immoral or is pointless as is the current case then they have a duty to refuse to carry it out if not for their sake then for the publics. My opinion of the British Army is sorely diminished for allowing themselves to be used in the East. One illegal war, one not to do with us

[CitizenAngel]

@wilsonnortheast Let's live in the real world wilsonnortheast, do you really think that would happen? If any one of these soldiers went against orders or made a stand they could face court marital proceedings etc. And while they are putting their lives at risk they still have families that rely on the income they make from fighting in Iraq. If you think for one second that a whole bunch of soliders are going to throw down their arms then I think you are mistaken. Insubordination is a major deal!

[wilsonnortheast]

@CitizenAngel Insubordination is a serious issue. But so is carrying out illegal and immoral orders. Iraq was nothing more than empire building and our soldiers have a duty to the British people not the British government. If they do not wish to be guilty of illegal warfare and the war crimes that each aggressive act become because of the wars illegal status then they have a duty to themselves to the subjugated people of Iraq and to us not too obey their orders. We made that excuse void 60 years

[tubehows4life]

@CitizenAngel "Insubordination is a major deal!" Hardly, in WW1, soldiers refused to fight in a war that was costing countless lives. They were conscientious objectors, and they were lined up and shot for their beliefs. Iraq is a war costing countless lives and these soldiers are not refusing to take part even though they wouldnt be lined up and shot. These soldiers are not heroes, they are sheep. Court martial and lost income? Ooh scary, give me a break. Not killing Iraqis is more important.

[Jarvisdoctor]

@tubehows4life It's all idealistic and nice and furry to expect soldiers to speak out but then what do you do with them when they come home and they're jobless in a country where there a few jobs already? You want soldiers to speak out and do this and that but are the rest of the UK prepared to deal with the consequences of soldiers not fighting and losing their jobs when they're made unemployed? You may have a point but are you willing to also pay the price?

[tubehows4life]

@Jarvisdoctor Again, not killing Iraqi citizens is more important than being jobless in the UK, not that they necessarily would be for that long. I dont doubt the difficulty, but it pales in comparison to the difficulties of an Iraqi family devastated by "collateral" damage.Just think how many cases of depression/trauma are being created over there. I have mixed emotions about soldiers as people,because their own traumas in field are serious too, but thats all the more reason to refuse to fight!

[Jarvisdoctor]

@tubehows4life I wasn't saying it was more/less important. Are you willing to make potential sacrifices as well? You say they wouldn't necessarily be jobless for long? There's some folk still trying to find work who have been unemployed for two years. There's an average of 47 people going for the one job. Add a whole load of jobless soldiers to the equation and see how more hard It's going to get. It's one thing to be idealistic, It's another to stick by your guns when things get hard.

[tubehows4life]

@Jarvisdoctor 2 years unemployed or an Iraqi forever dead? And their families forever traumatized? I hate to be morbid but thats what we have. Even forever unemployed is no big deal. A dead/bereaved Iraqi can only wish unemployment was the extent of their problems, and take no comfort in a soldier's employment troubles.

You'll survive one way or another in the UK. Ebay, dole, its all small beer, so yes, they should make that sacrifice, then they would be real "heroes" for refusing to go to war!

[Jarvisdoctor]

@tubehows4life I don't argue with what you are saying, I'm saying It's one thing to ask others to make a sacrifices, are you willing to potentially do the same? It's all very well being idealistic before reality kicks in. The UK might survive in the long run but the individual families may not. We can't know for sure what will happen to them. if anyone could they'd be making a fortune as a fortune teller. Asking other people to be heroes is one thing but are you prepared to be a hero yourself?

[tubehows4life]

@Jarvisdoctor Sure I'd refuse to go to Iraq. I think that the reason you dont get refusals is that actually most soldiers agree with the cause. I used to be in the ACF then the ATC (they're cadet forces) and my experience of the personalities of soldiers is that they would be very gung-ho about Iraq. Despite what the left try to meekly say that the soldiers dont agree with it, I think you'd find that they do, they tend to be mostly on the right when it comes to military matters.

[RICHIEBSQUI]

The worst thing was the audience reaction to her "one liner" - she was wrong to behave like that. Tim Vine : now he is THE master of the one liners.......

[garmyste]

a stupid un funny bitch ...nice tits though

[PurushaDesa]

@garmyste

Whereas you're coming across as a barrel of laughs.

[rudeydudey05]

LOL, your a little bit like one of those old men in the muppets.

[Sophieandhearts]

Comedian? Grow up. She's SHIT.

[VonKutlery]

Pathetic little girl with no idea what she is talking about. Why is she even there...

[jbarks10]

That whore of a so called comedian just delivered a cheap shot. I would expect more from someone who is supposed to be sharp and witty. Bitch.

[marshalllucky]

Kilroy is a great man, politics and daytime TV are a poorer place without him.

[1Thompsonmusic]

@marshalllucky

I know! He was funny! Bring him back.

[ivorbigonee]

stupid whore

[MrUKIndependence]

Kilroy is a muppet; he did a lot of damage to UKIP by making some shockingly racist comments regarding the Arabs and other ethnic minorities.

He was god for UKIP for all of about three weeks; he raised our profile. But all in all, the party is more united without him.

[wilsonnortheast]

@MrUKIndependence The cretin seemed to think that the Iraqis should be grateful for us subjugating them.

[marshalllucky]

@MrUKIndependence but it was all true, its just politics has no place for the truth just `line toeing` yes men who will do anything to get into power and make deals with the devil if it gets them into office, Kilroy is a man who speaks only the truth and the system had no place for good men like him.

[UrbanGuerilla88]

oh look the fascist peter hain!!!

[eezysqueezy]

The line was good, but the truth is he was sort of right. I saw that episode, and no-one was criticising the soldiers. In fact, he actually made some fair point...and I'm not particularly fond of the man, but he did.

I suppose she knew, unpopular as he is to a large section of the British public, that the line would go down well...

Which is a bit lazy, really.

[johny344]

yeah, attack the idea, not the person. despite the fact hes a git

[betahifidelity]

Natalie Haynes will be performing in a student union bar near you!!!!

[elitept]

Kilroy-Silk is like his tan, a complete and utter fake!

The British public see right through kilroys fake little englander routine.

Kilroy is first and foremost a worshipper of israel and a hater of arabs.

Best kilroy fucks off to israel and leaves the UK to those who really care about it.

[NottinghamForest22]

Kilroy was very good in this episode.

[Gatecra5her]

Cheap laugh, not even funny. I don't even know why the audience laughed and encouraged her, she made a few "jokes" on the show and I just cringed each time!

[cornwallgeezer]

I don't like Kilroy at all but he did make some true statements.

[betahifidelity]

Natalie Haynes may be able to make some uninspired students raise a smile but in the real world she is out of her depth. Resorting to a personal attack when she is clearly losing the argument is simply childs play and RKS deserves an apology.

[mellowNdark]

Is your name Kilroy?

[betahifidelity]

No, My name is not Kilroy.

[XTONE85]

@betahifidelity I agree with you mate, she clearly didnt have an answer and just resorted to playground tactics

[betahifidelity]

I find it hard to believe that people actually pay money to read her dribble. Lots of people must be in serious denial?

[XTONE85]

Like you said previously, uninspired students.

[redpanda2401]

@XTONE85 I agree too, its people like her that shouldn't be in politics at all. They were supposed to be talking Soldiers and why they are fighting, she is talking about muppets she was insulting and childish.... what a disgrace.