Neil Kramer - Fighting the Control System Pt.3

[Nickolosomo]

Kramer is on fire! His concepts are becoming clearer and more poignant with every one of his interviews you post, dude - thank you, as always.

[theduderinok2]

@Nickolosomo thanks for listening, man :)

[0GodsAngeL0]

shared dude XD loool, i always wanted to say that rofl, great upload, like always

[createrainbowz]

Cheers Dude.

[theduderinok2]

@createrainbowz thanks for listening :)

[ethankegley]

metaphysical, represented as energy and substance.

are you going to post the rest of the interview?

[theduderinok2]

@ethankegley that's all there is..

[ethankegley]

@theduderinok2 Ok, thanks:) great post

[ethankegley]

metaphysical, represented as energy and substance

[frogman249]

this a good interview 1 way i see how they control people is threw sound iv watched sum english crime programmes and news and i notice they scare people into thinking that any crime iz bad like in the last police programme i seen the police wer called to a fire that was at a back of a house and az they approached the music gt eary az if it was a serial killer but all it was was a bin on fire probaly a poor hobo just wantin to heat his hands up but that keeps people under control

[chunkyification]

That was good. Neil Kramer is erudite and simplified when he speaks. And blow me down if his reality view isn't far off from mine; and he expounded it in half an hour! But watch this space; theres so much going on that any info is open to new interpretation. I have certainly seen the field that he and others such as Rupert Sheldrake posit. It holds birds aloft as well as their aerodynamics and it guides their flight. They are definitely aware of it.

[MsHardcorerave]

@chunkyification very true, have you heard that birds of prey can see in ultraviolet? and theyve found that voles give off a scent trail thats ultra violet... just one of many things we dont see.

[MsHardcorerave]

this field can be seen with the help of salvia divinorum!

[kaiagavin]

@MsHardcorerave Thank you for wording this correctly, choosing to say "can be seen" and not misleading anyone by saying "will be seen" Such a pleasure to hear someone comment with useful information for a change. At least when it comes to salvia. What else have you learned thus far from rubbing the magic lamp??

[MsHardcorerave]

@kaiagavin lol yes.... its only attainable sometimes. Ive confirmed for myself that we go to a *real* place , beacuse ive gone back twice to check lol... the stars are in the same position to me, and there are patterns and colours which form basic dna structures here I think. Ive seen fibonnaci style codes in colour showing me the mammals of this world all part of it. Im positive its the same place we go when dreaming or astral travel. Must say though loosing reality is deathly frightening! lol

[kaiagavin]

@MsHardcorerave Letting go is almost never easy, and letting go of everything you thought you knew about reality is a real blow to the ego that thinks it has control of its life / reality. Resistance is the fear based reaction that blocks further development and must be overcome intentionally.

[MsHardcorerave]

@kaiagavin yes , you think youre prepared for it but no! lol :)

[kaiagavin]

@MsHardcorerave For me, it took allot more than going back two times to discover the hidden aspects and benefits of this line of inquiry.

[kaiagavin]

@MsHardcorerave Maybe the fear factor would not have been so big and strong if someone would have or could have told me what to expect in more detail. My first attempts were made back in 1994 and it wasn't until 2000 before anything was felt at all. But then,POW every thing before that moment became"BS" or before salvia. I couldn't believe that nobody had warned me or prepared me properly.

[MsHardcorerave]

rik clay belived this also: that concepts ideas and products around us bring us back to the mundane us rather than the soul, so even buying a coke you could be buying into something you cant percieve.

[N2DFlood]

He's a great example of how higher consciousness is not only available to mankind, but is in fact our natural state. This is made clear in his natural eloquence and clear and concise delivery of complex concepts without the use of "uhhhh" "like" "you know what I mean" congnitive stumbling that so many utter when they try to speak.

[zapproowsdower]

@N2DFlood I'm not so sure. The only people who exhibit such enlightened states of consciousness are those who have devoted their lives to understanding the world around them and their relation to it. It doesn't seem to come naturally - on the contrary it seems to only come from many years of hard work, sacrifice, discipline, and intense self-reflection.

[MsHardcorerave]

@zapproowsdower in the words of Terence Mckenna , you just have to dare to turn the doorknob and go in!

[N2DFlood]

@zapproowsdower Such good points! A child by age 7 has begun building the constructs of the Ego, and this results in a departure from this state, most adults are living in the ego, this is unnatural. Also, the vedas, and many other ancient understandings place us in the iron age, or cali yuga, making the disconnection from spirit common among men. "Natural" is not equal to "common" in this case. Most are living and thinking unnaturally, in the separated ego, not the true self..

[27boof]

Oh man, I love this guy! Thank you, Dude.

Far out, I thought I was the only one on planet Earth still using cassette tapes (my roomie laughs at me about it :) - now I see why this is such a fiddley job for you, you are the greatest!

Much love & respect (& gratitude!)

x o

[theduderinok2]

@27boof lol..oh no... that's actually a sound effect on the interview..the interviewer uses it as a break sound...i don't own a cassette player unfortunately..