Nice setup why only 14 with a headgasket. Im running 14 on stock compression with a gt35. With a gasket and the awesome full race mani you've got that car should easily hit 500plus. Nice ride.
When you drive it like a pansy. Take it to a couple track days and we'll see.
I've personally pulled multiple S2000 motors out and had to rebuild them because of bent valves. S2000's with high mileage are known for the dreaded p0300.
Its not o I read this I went school for this it's..ok if you know yourself what your doing/talking about and can prove it in numbers or just by track times without lying about what mods you have then. You know what your doing regardless your a high school drop out or scholar at MIT.
@all s2k haters. On s2ki.com there is a thread on a fully stock f20c doing 726whp stock EVERYTHING. now yes it will blow up sometime soon but they are trying to see how much it will hold. So far so good though. As far ad ANY s2k owner knows. Only a head gasket needs to be replaces with a stronger one and you can run 3-400whp evu
Oh and f1 cars rev to 16k for the le mans 24hour endurance race, but you cant boost an s2000 with f1 technology and rev to 9. haha think before speaking out.
Hey Dumbasses that dont know shit.. F20c and F22c have forged internals. its not just that everyday honda. its an S2000 for a reason. S2000's can hold 700 plus hp on a tune with all stock internals. an s2000 making 450hp on a tune can last just as long as an s2000 without a turbo. Hence the keyward...TUNE!?!?!! yeah thats why you tune vehicles you fucks. go drive your mustangs around and oh yeah, did you know that mustangs have alluminum engines now too. bout time. oh dont boost them though.?
@nightwalker00 You, my friend, are an idiot. Point blank. I am a member of s2ki, s2kca, HT and more. I had seen and read about endless s2000 builds. Daily driven, boosted, AND TUNED RIGHT, that have lasted a very long time. You are so fucking ignorant it oozes out of this computer screen. Do me a favor, go on some honda forums, research and get informed before posting useless shit. There are many many s2000 drivers that will tell you the same.
please you Honda fan boys need to get real. AP1s bend a valve from a missshift, AP2s have so many injector and coil problems it's not even funny. A stock aluminum block is not going to hold up for long on boost. It will tweak. 1 year on boost is not a "long" time. I drive a boosted car that runs 26psi daily, and has 162,000 miles on the odometer. Over 100k was on 26 psi. You can not do that daily revving to 7k on a stock F20c or F22c.
Dennis L'Orange changed out the OEM headgasket for an inline pro low compression head gasket...everything else is OEM Honda. He also tuned it conservatively on pump gas with the AEM EMS. It has been running for over 3 years this way.
The s2000 engine is "built" in original form. That's how it produces 120hp per liter. Not all "stock" engines or turbos are alike. Please continue with your negative beliefs, but don't post about topics you don't know. You are just spreading misinformation to people who don't know, while looking like an idiot to the people who do.
@nightwalker00 that much you know..you know that for a fact? or you just open your mouth and whatever comes out you post it..please be more informed when trying to prove something
@nightwalker00 you have no fucking idea what your talking. go take your bull shit theories elsewhere noob. keep trolling around. my f20 setup has been good for 30k so far and its pushing 458 @ 17lbs
none. no bolt on exhaust will net you more power unless you do a full intake and exhaust system and then go to an aftermarket fuel manager. stock s2k exhaust is also lighter than just about every other aftermarket exhaust out there. unless youre going to run forced induction, there isnt much you can do aside from an AEM intake that will net you any more power out of the s2k. are you smarter than a honda engineer? no offense but i doubt it im sure not so why mess with perfection?
no! you actually must know, the gear ratios. The ratio shows you in what gear you rolling. usually is 4th because the ratio is 1 : ~1, but some cars have in 5th ratio 1:1
yea they are forged but he is running 14 psi on internals that honda never designed for boost let alone 14 psi. i was just curious how long it lasted before he blew it up. or maybe he just turned it up for the dyno run idk..
well, when someone spends thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours learning something, how does one give the same education with 500character limits and 5 posts? Do you honestly think i could tell you what it takes years to learn in school? And why do you assume that becuase you dont understand what im saying, make me the moron...... seeing as how it would probably be the opposite. i know what im saying. i wrote books on it. The hard part is teaching you.
Class rooms are not real world... You seem like you know good motor theory, but it doesn't apply to all factors in the real world. If you teach this stuff, you should know that. 100hp driving a parachute can't outperform 100hp driving a bullet. (other factors always apply in real-world) That's why in this situation you have been bested. Good fight though. Not really.
alright logic, cool it, i went to an engineering school too and i get what you're saying but bottom line is whenever you defend hondas everyone will hate you. engineer or not.
another example if you put 500 hp n/a mustang against a 500 hp boosted mustang and lets say there both the same weight they both have the same gear reduction and the same slicks. I can promise you the boosted one will win every time because the tq will be alot higher and more broad.
you have that backwards. for 1, the turbo lag will get you. for if your in turbo lag, then your not making peak hp at that rpm. The n/a mustang will be. 2nd, if 500hp can move a car faster than another 500hp, then by all fuckign laws of physics, the faster car HAS TO HAVE MORE POWER!!! you cant create energy. you only have 500hp. either the other car wasnt at peak or you had more....if more tq did more work, then it would have more power..... sad you can see the flaw in your logic.
I'm not sure y i am arguing with, what you just said shows every one that you have no idea what your talking about , may be you should pick up a magazine and read it or look at some dyno graphs.
one question: i'm really interested in getting an S2000, but i dont know anything about this car, if i want to put a big turbo like a GT30R kit @ 12psi, do i have to built the engine for a forced induction system? like forged rods, pistons etc? or this car comes with a nice engine to put a turbo kit from factory? i own a 1.8T big turbo and i really needed to put some forged rods in it before getting close to the 400WHP...this is just for reference though
Hondas rev HIGHER, so in relationship to their horsepower, they have a lower torque number.
Example Car A has 250hp@ his 6000RPM redline, and 275ft lbs of tq at 3400rpm. This means he is losing torque in the best part of his power band(For racing) at 5krpm, where he would be on an autoX or race circuit, he will have less torque than a car with 250hp@8000rpm with "only 220ft lbs"@ 5000RPM. Odds are, that 220ft lbs has more usable TQ. Take a look at a few dynos, you will see what im saying
compare this turbo s2000 to say a dsm or evo of equal hp, the tq number will be close to the hp number, even if the s2 has more usable tq in its graph, its still almost half it hp number, and the graph on the dsm or evo will still be higher accross the board.
would put my money on car A, because his tq will not dip below 220 at 5k his tq is more across the board, besides you want your tq down low it meams you have to shift less to stay in you pwr band.
The engines are tuned for different goals. The honda's cam set up is made for high RPM HP, where as the evo's cams are set to make more power and tq down low, something that is very much wanted and needed with AWD(They will bog off the line otherwise)
the tq to hp ratio is only based on rpm range... an f1 car would have a much more rediculous ratio of tq to hp... it says NOTHIGN about drivability. except at the extremes. 100tq@8000rpms is 2 times as powerful than 100tq@4000rpms. Thus when 2 cars make same hp, the lower the car revs, the more tq is required to make the same amount of power. Honda's usually make less tq cuase they tend to rev higher than other engines. but crank tq is irrelavent... you want hp.. its called thermodynamics..
here is a fact for to look up, hp sells cars tq wins races. you really shouldn't be useing a f1 car as an example to an s2. my argument its if you put the same turbo kit you have on that s2 on any other vehicle with the same displacment and it will make more tq than the s2, more tq means it will accelerate faster.
if more tq meant it would accelerate faster, then my the laws of thermodynamics, it would HAVE to have more power... as in more power output. cuase is there no fucking way you can move the same waeight faster in a given amount of time WITHOUT MORE POWER!!! its called energy. to move a mass faster creates kenetic energy. (i.e. 1/2 mass X vel.^2). thus, if more tq ment more energy. then more hp was introduced... clearly you need to learn some physics outside of 10th grade...
ok mr know it all, then how come a 12.7 Liter detroit engine that makes only 500 hp makes 2800 ft tq. and only spins at 1500 rpm. another example is an electric motor that makes 300 hp makes over 1000 ft tq.
I think the main reason tq is so low on hondas is becuase of the cam specs lift, duration, lsa
crank tq, comes from the amount of force placed on the cylinder walls. Thus increasing disp, will increase this force, same with forced in duction etc. Hp is how often you can apply set given tq. thus getting payed 5$/hr@40hrs a wk, makes the same amount as 10$/hr@20hrs wk. hp is energy. crank tq is the motors ability to create that force on the block sleeve. the smaller the displacement= lower the tq. hodna's have low tq becuase THEY ARE SMALL ENGINES!! 12.7= lots of tq. its not rocket science
I was using the 12.7 l as an example. you should copare a 2.0 l dsm or evo or 2.0 anything, to the honda 2.0.
displacement., sheer piston size alone does not affect what you call pwer out put. you are forgeting stroke. the distance the piston has to travel. here is a better example. how does an dodge srt-4 that makes260 whp make 320 ft tq.
for one, i mentioned nothing about piston size, i said force on cylinder wall. 2. that force is tq, not a power output. the distance the force is from the crank is the distance that makes tq. the force combined with the distance is the total tq. cuase tq is force at a distance. A forced induction motor cannot be compared to a n/a motor. since air can be pressurized, comparing a 2.2 under 8lbs is a lot different than a 2.2 n/a. boosted= more cylinder wall pressure, i.e tq
i have studied dyno graphs, Thats why i can also tell you that recording a wtq number on a dyno is not only a calculated one, but a useless one. its one of us that needs more education. And with years under my belt of M.E. I presume that your the one that doesnt understand. if a motor made 260whp with 320tq, the idea that 320tq and what ever rpm MADE the 260. SO you cant use the term twice to make more tq better, otherwise the hp term WOULD REFLECT THAT!!!!!
ok I'm done arguing with you, i build engines for a living and run a a dyno almost every day and I get to drive the cars that i built, and I'm telling tq vary's with bore stroke cam and turbo sizing even degreeing the cam will affect your hp to tq ratio.
and when i gave the example of the mustangs
one was built high compression with heads cam intake and dome pistons. the other was stock every thing with a kb supercharger. both made the same power but the kb made more tq. the kb car was faster.
TThe force on the cylinder wall, combined with the distance from the crank=tq. All changes in a motor affect this. Bore, stroke, compression, a/f ratio etc. That i agree. the car WAS not faster becuase of more crank tq. For one, both cars are not at peak power the whole time. SO, the one that was faster, had to have produce more power over the given race, in order to be faster. IF they made the same power, then they couldnt be faster or slower. The amount of power outputed had to have changed
youre right, torque is used for getting a car moving from a stop, horsepower is more use once the car is actually moving. s2k is a road course beast, not a drag car like most people would like to think. you sir are correct in your statement
i can apply lots of tq to something an nothing moves. TQ is a force. When you apply a force over time, then it becomes power. TQ by itsself could be useless, cuase it might not move anything, but can be applied. Power is when you have something moving through time. Such as rpms. Combining the 2, produces a rated power. Your concept of power and tq are so wacked out i can't even begin.... p.m and ill try... cant do it here in under 500 characters
If what you say is true then tq wrenches should be renamed hp wrenches. on the dyno the na car made a little more peak hp than the supercharged car, but in a a race the super charged car one every time and by a fair bit. tq gets you moving and hp keeps you going. if the race was from a roll it would have been closer but from a stop the supercharged car one every single time. and its because he make all of his tq instantly from 2000 to 5000 then it fades off where the hp is still coming on.
tq wrenches make tq. its not rated as rotations of tq per time is it smart ass? And i hate to tell you, but i do not care what bullshit you think you know about the scenario... clearly you have not taken any power or energy classes such as a mechanical engineering class as such. If both cars weight the same, and one was faster, then the power output over time for the faster one was higher. it cannot be any other way. learn thermo. Im done arguing with cattle.
actually I know what I know because I went to automotive tech school and that's what they teach, also forgot to mention changing gear ratio will change amout of tq to the ground, this does not change power out put it simply multiply's the engines tq to the ground, the more gear reduction you have the faster it accelerates out of the hole to a certain point, a good example of this was when i had an old 5.0, it had 273 diff gears, i changed them for 373's and the car droped a full sec in the 1/4
i am aware of tq increase through gear reduction...
the amount of tq able to be produce at any given gear ratio ect is based on hp production. If you disagree then you disagree with every thermo law there is, and thus engineers in general..
Do you think a 20hp water pump can produce more water pressure than a 30hp pump? same goes with a car. more hp more acceleration... if you think more tq, lowering rpm but same hp does more work, then your a moron and should retake all your classes
if you apply tq to any thing it will rotate provided that you apply enough tq to overcome the weight of the object. if you apply alot of tq to some thing light it will rotate fast, if its heavy it will move slow.
back to my example of a semi truck, on the dyno they make 500 hp and 2800 ft tq depending on the tune, another truck with the same engine can make the same hp but only have 1800 ft tq. the one with 2800 will accel faster.
the one with 2800 is only accelerating faster becuase the hp output over time is higher.... your arguments are so damn scrrewed up i dont know where to start. IF they make different tq outputs but same hp, then the rpm range is different. So clearly you have a gearing issue. just becuase the PEAK power is the same, does not mean the power output at all times is the same. the one thats faster is outputting more power over time...
your book is dead wrong. maybe pick up an automotive tech book, any one of thousands and they will all say the same thing I'm saying. or may be buy a car and start experimenting with bolting on different parts and you will get the results I am talking about,unless of course you pic a honda. pic any other brand name of car and you will get the results I am talking about.
where do you think the information came from to write your automotive tech book? ENGINEERING! i have already experimented with cars. and so i guess physics only applies to every other car, but a honda.... lol... good automotive information.. and i hate to say it, but its one thing to read a book, and its another to do speeches and classes on what you already know... thanks for the advice but your the one that doesnt understand power and energy
so what your saying is your right and thousands of ENGINEERS are wrong. I talked to an automotive tech teacher at S.I.A.S.T who also does alot of Performance tuning on vehicles and he told me that the reason honda's make so little tq is because of the way they design there cylander heads.
hp is power recieved from air mass per time....... tq is force per air mass per cylinder stroke. small cylinders= small tq.....
its sad you have to get someone elses advice sicne YOU DONT KNOW..
and moron...your the one that is disagreeing with physics, and thus engineers, since engineers study the laws of the universe in a 3 dimensional world.. and the books are downstairs. i could simply search for book titles on line, what would that prove?
Well, I haven't read all the details fully but basically if you have an Automatic trans, then the boost of a turbo is at it's max due to never releasing for a shift like one would do in a manual vehicle.
In a manual vehicle, when you shift, you release all boost from the turbo and the spooling has to build up again, but in an Auto you don't release that pressure during shift and so it's at a constant.
Not saying Auto is any better, just for forced induction purposes.
well that is true, when you take your foot off the accelerator you do lose boost momentarily. You can either powershift or flatshift but neither of those are good to do on a frequent basis. You don't really want a full automatic, a trick advanced gearbox like lamborghini's egear, ferraris f1, and the volkswagen dsg would be a good one to use for boost applications but they only put dsgs on turbo applications because lambo and ferrari use big naturally aspirated motors.
(equation for determining horsepower in relation to ft-lbs of tq at a given RPM)
basically since the s2k can rev ridiculously high it allows the car to make good HP by holding a steady torque figure throughout most of its rpms
diesels are sort of the opposite of this car (to help put the equation into perspective) they will have probably 250-300hp but well over 500 ft-lbs of torque. why dont they make lots of HP stock? they rely on lots of torque w little RPM
The zr1 is barely and i mean barely faster than the gtr. it has a bit over 150 extra horsepower to obtain its numbers. its a great car beautiful, fast, and it carrys on the tradition of v8 power but the skyline is a marvel in its itself because for the money paid if you can somehow find one it's got the most bang for it's buck. im an AWD kinda guy i guess plus i love the sound of a turbo over a super pretty much any day. just my 2 cents. Motortrend rants about them both as being godlike cars
oh man,look at all this vette fanbois commentin how their vettes are godly under everysingle import vid on youtube LMFAO.
i do like and respect vettes. especially c6 line ups.But its like.....these domestic fanbois didn't had anything to brag over about import from asia and europe for centeries, and then finally c6 z06 came out scoring hot time on drag and track smokin everyone aka their godly savier. now they r all hyped on finally gettin their braggin rights. it looks so chidish 2 me.
im just curious but k20b18h22 said that the z06 c6 is the king of the road and that the new GTR couldnt mess wit it??? thats wierd that he failed to mention the the new GTR is THE best track car running times better than the Porsche GT2.....sorry Corvettes are nice but jus cant compete...
im pretttyyy sure GTR takes it in handling and comfort. because i know vettes arent the best handling cars + ive been in a vette and imo its not the most comfortable car to drive in.and yes im talking about the zr1 and z06, not the older models. plus GTR is cheaper --; plus awd vs rwd. id take awd. 4 seats vs 2? id take 4 seats. im not hating on averrett's comment, im just taking it as a response section. but i think both cars are nice as hell~ zr1 definitely speed demon worthy.
I was just stating what I had seen. Around the GT-R would be a better car to have with 4 dorrs, an actual trunk, awd, ect. But i was talking as far as racing. Both had equal 0-60 times, vette won in 1/4 mile, track time, slalom, skid pad, so race car = vette. Daily driver with a fam = GTR. I'm more of a fan of RWD over awd myself and V8's. But I agree with your more comfotable car being the GTR, and it's easier to drive it at its limits than the zr1. How did we get on zr1 vs gtr anyway?
I never knew you could get those kind of numbers on stock internals. Changing a head gasket compared to building the bottom end is as easy as changing oil(exaggeration). I think I choose this over a 350z drop top and will be my next car, with turbo of course...
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my stock Z06 get 28 on the freeway and like 18 on the street and i flooor the shitt out of it. And on a track i will kill a s2k no question turns straights anythingg.. All about and driver..
u better, since u paid all that money over price of s2k. lol u r sayin such a obvious thing like its somekind of braggin right. u DO have a braggin right of gettin pricier car but u shouldnt be comparin with cheaper car. much cheaper infact. LMAO
where's the challenge in going to a dealership and buying a stock car?..anyone can sign a piece of paper to buy a car....not much of a challenge there IMO....btw what kind of mileage do you get in your Z06? The S2000 gets around 28 or so around town ;)
It's still a cool car, and nice to look at, you know, there is always someone bigger and badder out there. I'm sure that there are cars that will destroy dude's Zo-6 up there and he would probably get upset to hear it. Not everything is about outright performance. You can like a car just because you like it. And why not give it some more power? I personally think a 422 HP S2000 with the top down sounds a hell of a lot more FUN than a Z06.
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all the z06 has is top end? rofl i kno a guy with a c6 z06 and he has to feather it in 3rd... its got insane power all throughout the power band... the c6 z06 is the king of the road... bye bye ford gt/gt500, viper, sl65amg, m6, lambo, ferrari 430, r35 skyline an many more...
very nice s2k btw but its not quite ready to take on a c6 z06... but its not far off
That's true and all, but there is one advantage the vette has and that is traction on takeoff. S2K's are too light in the ass end, and its much harder to control while taking off.
I'll admit the Z06 is one of the best cars out there, but in numerous comparison tests, the new Z06 has fallen to the R35 Skyline, but Fiatman, you are wrong too, the Z06 will beat a F430 on the track and in the straights, but comparing a F430 Scuderia to a Z06? The new ZR1 is the car you should compare a Scuderia to, and btw, the Ferrari still loses.
Is this in Florida? I remember this car. This car, if it is the same one, had an aftermarket hood, carbon fiber with little fascia hood scoops. I think I talked to the guy, driving on Eglin AFB. About a week later I met up with him, they did two highway runs and put a rod through the block. Unfortunate.
yes with a 3mm head gasket and a good tune, ive seen 25psi with c16 on a stock motor. on average u can run up to 18 or so with a good tune and still drive it daily
Dude, don't listen to that advice...max boost on stock internals should only be max 9 psi. I personally wouldn't go over 7.
The F22C, just like ALL the other honda motors is an open deck design. At the FPS that the pistons are traveling near the 8k redline, you're likely to wobble the cylinders and blow a head gasket.
i have read that stock f20c's pistons and rods are forged but i think you are right 400whp is too much for a na motor and gearbox.i wish i am wrong though so we can see even more turbocharged s2ks on the road :)
the f20 and f22c pistons are forged aluminum with steel connecting rods and FRM(Fiber reinforced metal) cylinder walls. The problem is that the deck is not sealed...the cylinders can begin to 'wobble' with high comp/high boost situations which can cause the cylinder to lose contact with the head gasket. Can cause blown head gaskets and much worse.
Nice setup why only 14 with a headgasket. Im running 14 on stock compression with a gt35. With a gasket and the awesome full race mani you've got that car should easily hit 500plus. Nice ride.
japhethwar 1 month ago
Yeah I don't believe it will survive on stock internals or this joker is lying
AccordGTR 4 months ago
When you drive it like a pansy. Take it to a couple track days and we'll see.
I've personally pulled multiple S2000 motors out and had to rebuild them because of bent valves. S2000's with high mileage are known for the dreaded p0300.
nightwalker00 4 months ago
s2000 stock internals take 400 with ease.
954pilot 5 months ago
should look into picking up some torque my friend. hp is nothing without torque
cholzbaugh 6 months ago
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@cholzbaugh tell that to the rotary.. you will be disappointed.
spyderhex 5 months ago
why don't you guys push the fuckin car to the limit, u reach half way and pussy out and let go. FUCK GROW SOME BALLS.
zainronaldo 8 months ago
@zainronaldo its a dyno, u idiot u measure power, you dont just sit there and just go haywire, you obviously dont kno shit about cars do you!
neerredd 7 months ago
What's the max power you can run on stock internals?
Biggenzzz 11 months ago
@Biggenzzz
About 400+bhp without problems, all day long, but you need to change to stronger head gasket.
F20C comes with 240/250bhp naturally. ALL INTERNAL are forged, the reason why these engines weights high 140 kilos fully dressed.
2jzgtejza80 10 months ago
what do you think of storking the f20c to 2.4L with NA induction? is it good? will the car rev slower?
lobzdik 11 months ago
@lobzdik
Yes, you can, with TODA stroker kit, it is good (depends what you want), more displacement = more torque = more power = revs lower.
2jzgtejza80 10 months ago
I like ^^
g125150sean 1 year ago
Its not o I read this I went school for this it's..ok if you know yourself what your doing/talking about and can prove it in numbers or just by track times without lying about what mods you have then. You know what your doing regardless your a high school drop out or scholar at MIT.
MimicInc 1 year ago
Evury*** day. I'm a bit biased you could say but I only state the fact at least xD :)
s2kvick 1 year ago
@all s2k haters. On s2ki.com there is a thread on a fully stock f20c doing 726whp stock EVERYTHING. now yes it will blow up sometime soon but they are trying to see how much it will hold. So far so good though. As far ad ANY s2k owner knows. Only a head gasket needs to be replaces with a stronger one and you can run 3-400whp evu
s2kvick 1 year ago
i wana hear it set to 21 psi
blazeveryday6996 1 year ago
Oh and f1 cars rev to 16k for the le mans 24hour endurance race, but you cant boost an s2000 with f1 technology and rev to 9. haha think before speaking out.
spoonitr16830 1 year ago
Hey Dumbasses that dont know shit.. F20c and F22c have forged internals. its not just that everyday honda. its an S2000 for a reason. S2000's can hold 700 plus hp on a tune with all stock internals. an s2000 making 450hp on a tune can last just as long as an s2000 without a turbo. Hence the keyward...TUNE!?!?!! yeah thats why you tune vehicles you fucks. go drive your mustangs around and oh yeah, did you know that mustangs have alluminum engines now too. bout time. oh dont boost them though.?
spoonitr16830 1 year ago
@spoonitr16830
Finally an American who knows what's talking. I believe and Honda owner also.
2jzgtejza80 10 months ago
Don't forget the "glory" dyno runs on You tube. Daily driven, full boosted, revved to 7k everyday, WILL NOT LAST.
If you think it will, then build your own. I am done.
nightwalker00 1 year ago
@nightwalker00 You, my friend, are an idiot. Point blank. I am a member of s2ki, s2kca, HT and more. I had seen and read about endless s2000 builds. Daily driven, boosted, AND TUNED RIGHT, that have lasted a very long time. You are so fucking ignorant it oozes out of this computer screen. Do me a favor, go on some honda forums, research and get informed before posting useless shit. There are many many s2000 drivers that will tell you the same.
S2kojones 1 year ago
I guess this engine will last if you "baby" it and hard park it.
nightwalker00 1 year ago
please you Honda fan boys need to get real. AP1s bend a valve from a missshift, AP2s have so many injector and coil problems it's not even funny. A stock aluminum block is not going to hold up for long on boost. It will tweak. 1 year on boost is not a "long" time. I drive a boosted car that runs 26psi daily, and has 162,000 miles on the odometer. Over 100k was on 26 psi. You can not do that daily revving to 7k on a stock F20c or F22c.
nightwalker00 1 year ago
Dennis L'Orange changed out the OEM headgasket for an inline pro low compression head gasket...everything else is OEM Honda. He also tuned it conservatively on pump gas with the AEM EMS. It has been running for over 3 years this way.
tunedbylorange 1 year ago
@TETVTEC
that's a little tough to believe, doubling the engine's power at only 7.5psi. That was on 91 octane? What was the AFR? What turbo?
1993z32 1 year ago
VTECH just kicked in YO! :p
hpiownzilla01 1 year ago
@hpiownzilla01 its vtec...its not a phone
integrafan01 1 year ago 8
That car is not going to last long on a stock motor.
nightwalker00 2 years ago
yes it will.
steez592 2 years ago 4
@nightwalker00
The s2000 engine is "built" in original form. That's how it produces 120hp per liter. Not all "stock" engines or turbos are alike. Please continue with your negative beliefs, but don't post about topics you don't know. You are just spreading misinformation to people who don't know, while looking like an idiot to the people who do.
Toki52 1 year ago
Its a Honda. It will last forever.
Jak3Mac 1 year ago
@nightwalker00 that much you know..you know that for a fact? or you just open your mouth and whatever comes out you post it..please be more informed when trying to prove something
kasapomashero 1 year ago
@nightwalker00 a stock s2k engine will hold soo much boost with stock engine
lifesgo0d 1 year ago
@lifesgo0d yeah cause the stock bottom ends of hondas can usually hold 300 horse
kamikaze69100 1 year ago
@nightwalker00 That's simply your theory and or your opinion.....but this car is still running to this day!
tunedbylorange 9 months ago 3
@tunedbylorange After how many rebuilds? lol
nightwalker00 7 months ago
@nightwalker00 its a honda , these things dont get old
hmood0909 7 months ago
@nightwalker00 its a honda..lasts forever..not VW
0549724031 5 months ago
@nightwalker00 you have no fucking idea what your talking. go take your bull shit theories elsewhere noob. keep trolling around. my f20 setup has been good for 30k so far and its pushing 458 @ 17lbs
Auk190 4 months ago
@nightwalker00 14psi on a stock forged motor isnt shit
scoumis 3 months ago
what are some good exhausts to put on an s2k
puranger52 2 years ago
invidia i heard was good
Ming5912 2 years ago
none. no bolt on exhaust will net you more power unless you do a full intake and exhaust system and then go to an aftermarket fuel manager. stock s2k exhaust is also lighter than just about every other aftermarket exhaust out there. unless youre going to run forced induction, there isnt much you can do aside from an AEM intake that will net you any more power out of the s2k. are you smarter than a honda engineer? no offense but i doubt it im sure not so why mess with perfection?
mynock05 2 years ago
how is the radiator cooled?
cause it looks like the intercooler is blocking the radiator.
rishie2002 2 years ago
Air passes through the intercooler, then on to the radiator, the intercooler isn't the intake for the turbo...
EatMyAR 2 years ago
ok thanks. yeah i know the intercooler isn't the intake, what makes you think that ?
rishie2002 2 years ago
Previous experiences :P sorry I wasn't calling you stupid or anything I hope you didn't take offence :)
EatMyAR 2 years ago
i woulda just 2jz'd this bitch and just RAPED everyone lmao
ElPicheGringo 2 years ago
wow... you know nothing
mattyg0910 2 years ago
how do u dyno? put it in 5th and hammer it?
nippaaa 2 years ago
lmao... Epic Fail!
ArekuDS 2 years ago
no! you actually must know, the gear ratios. The ratio shows you in what gear you rolling. usually is 4th because the ratio is 1 : ~1, but some cars have in 5th ratio 1:1
2jzgtejza80 2 years ago
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epiles2 2 years ago
sex on wheels
hondarox715 2 years ago
what kinda wheels you got on that s2k
borladyno 2 years ago
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rippinproz 2 years ago
yea they are forged but he is running 14 psi on internals that honda never designed for boost let alone 14 psi. i was just curious how long it lasted before he blew it up. or maybe he just turned it up for the dyno run idk..
xmuzzx 2 years ago
422 whp on stock internals? how many pulls did it last? couldnt have made it very far.
xmuzzx 2 years ago
ummmm. ;Internals on a STOCK S2000 are forged sooooo...
slikster20 2 years ago
Logic2reason, your an idiot or you are really poor at trying to figure out what you are saying.
rippinproz 2 years ago
well, when someone spends thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours learning something, how does one give the same education with 500character limits and 5 posts? Do you honestly think i could tell you what it takes years to learn in school? And why do you assume that becuase you dont understand what im saying, make me the moron...... seeing as how it would probably be the opposite. i know what im saying. i wrote books on it. The hard part is teaching you.
logic2reason 2 years ago
I hope nobody reads your books.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
seeing as i went to one of the top 5 school in the country for it. Im willing to bet your wrong
logic2reason 2 years ago
Class rooms are not real world... You seem like you know good motor theory, but it doesn't apply to all factors in the real world. If you teach this stuff, you should know that. 100hp driving a parachute can't outperform 100hp driving a bullet. (other factors always apply in real-world) That's why in this situation you have been bested. Good fight though. Not really.
Vectorsumio 2 years ago
alright logic, cool it, i went to an engineering school too and i get what you're saying but bottom line is whenever you defend hondas everyone will hate you. engineer or not.
soccerjay913 2 years ago
please elaberate on your coment.
fdrx7100 2 years ago
another example if you put 500 hp n/a mustang against a 500 hp boosted mustang and lets say there both the same weight they both have the same gear reduction and the same slicks. I can promise you the boosted one will win every time because the tq will be alot higher and more broad.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
you have that backwards. for 1, the turbo lag will get you. for if your in turbo lag, then your not making peak hp at that rpm. The n/a mustang will be. 2nd, if 500hp can move a car faster than another 500hp, then by all fuckign laws of physics, the faster car HAS TO HAVE MORE POWER!!! you cant create energy. you only have 500hp. either the other car wasnt at peak or you had more....if more tq did more work, then it would have more power..... sad you can see the flaw in your logic.
logic2reason 2 years ago
I'm not sure y i am arguing with, what you just said shows every one that you have no idea what your talking about , may be you should pick up a magazine and read it or look at some dyno graphs.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
one question: i'm really interested in getting an S2000, but i dont know anything about this car, if i want to put a big turbo like a GT30R kit @ 12psi, do i have to built the engine for a forced induction system? like forged rods, pistons etc? or this car comes with a nice engine to put a turbo kit from factory? i own a 1.8T big turbo and i really needed to put some forged rods in it before getting close to the 400WHP...this is just for reference though
raulromeropty 2 years ago
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i love how honda's make the smallest amount of torqe out of all the imports. make me laugh every time.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
Hondas rev HIGHER, so in relationship to their horsepower, they have a lower torque number.
Example Car A has 250hp@ his 6000RPM redline, and 275ft lbs of tq at 3400rpm. This means he is losing torque in the best part of his power band(For racing) at 5krpm, where he would be on an autoX or race circuit, he will have less torque than a car with 250hp@8000rpm with "only 220ft lbs"@ 5000RPM. Odds are, that 220ft lbs has more usable TQ. Take a look at a few dynos, you will see what im saying
tensecfd3s 2 years ago
in comparison to what, lol
compare this turbo s2000 to say a dsm or evo of equal hp, the tq number will be close to the hp number, even if the s2 has more usable tq in its graph, its still almost half it hp number, and the graph on the dsm or evo will still be higher accross the board.
would put my money on car A, because his tq will not dip below 220 at 5k his tq is more across the board, besides you want your tq down low it meams you have to shift less to stay in you pwr band.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
The engines are tuned for different goals. The honda's cam set up is made for high RPM HP, where as the evo's cams are set to make more power and tq down low, something that is very much wanted and needed with AWD(They will bog off the line otherwise)
tensecfd3s 2 years ago
the tq to hp ratio is only based on rpm range... an f1 car would have a much more rediculous ratio of tq to hp... it says NOTHIGN about drivability. except at the extremes. 100tq@8000rpms is 2 times as powerful than 100tq@4000rpms. Thus when 2 cars make same hp, the lower the car revs, the more tq is required to make the same amount of power. Honda's usually make less tq cuase they tend to rev higher than other engines. but crank tq is irrelavent... you want hp.. its called thermodynamics..
logic2reason 2 years ago
here is a fact for to look up, hp sells cars tq wins races. you really shouldn't be useing a f1 car as an example to an s2. my argument its if you put the same turbo kit you have on that s2 on any other vehicle with the same displacment and it will make more tq than the s2, more tq means it will accelerate faster.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
if more tq meant it would accelerate faster, then my the laws of thermodynamics, it would HAVE to have more power... as in more power output. cuase is there no fucking way you can move the same waeight faster in a given amount of time WITHOUT MORE POWER!!! its called energy. to move a mass faster creates kenetic energy. (i.e. 1/2 mass X vel.^2). thus, if more tq ment more energy. then more hp was introduced... clearly you need to learn some physics outside of 10th grade...
logic2reason 2 years ago
ok mr know it all, then how come a 12.7 Liter detroit engine that makes only 500 hp makes 2800 ft tq. and only spins at 1500 rpm. another example is an electric motor that makes 300 hp makes over 1000 ft tq.
I think the main reason tq is so low on hondas is becuase of the cam specs lift, duration, lsa
and variable valve timing,
ORIANA250 2 years ago
crank tq, comes from the amount of force placed on the cylinder walls. Thus increasing disp, will increase this force, same with forced in duction etc. Hp is how often you can apply set given tq. thus getting payed 5$/hr@40hrs a wk, makes the same amount as 10$/hr@20hrs wk. hp is energy. crank tq is the motors ability to create that force on the block sleeve. the smaller the displacement= lower the tq. hodna's have low tq becuase THEY ARE SMALL ENGINES!! 12.7= lots of tq. its not rocket science
logic2reason 2 years ago 2
I was using the 12.7 l as an example. you should copare a 2.0 l dsm or evo or 2.0 anything, to the honda 2.0.
displacement., sheer piston size alone does not affect what you call pwer out put. you are forgeting stroke. the distance the piston has to travel. here is a better example. how does an dodge srt-4 that makes260 whp make 320 ft tq.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
for one, i mentioned nothing about piston size, i said force on cylinder wall. 2. that force is tq, not a power output. the distance the force is from the crank is the distance that makes tq. the force combined with the distance is the total tq. cuase tq is force at a distance. A forced induction motor cannot be compared to a n/a motor. since air can be pressurized, comparing a 2.2 under 8lbs is a lot different than a 2.2 n/a. boosted= more cylinder wall pressure, i.e tq
logic2reason 2 years ago
i have studied dyno graphs, Thats why i can also tell you that recording a wtq number on a dyno is not only a calculated one, but a useless one. its one of us that needs more education. And with years under my belt of M.E. I presume that your the one that doesnt understand. if a motor made 260whp with 320tq, the idea that 320tq and what ever rpm MADE the 260. SO you cant use the term twice to make more tq better, otherwise the hp term WOULD REFLECT THAT!!!!!
logic2reason 2 years ago
ok I'm done arguing with you, i build engines for a living and run a a dyno almost every day and I get to drive the cars that i built, and I'm telling tq vary's with bore stroke cam and turbo sizing even degreeing the cam will affect your hp to tq ratio.
and when i gave the example of the mustangs
one was built high compression with heads cam intake and dome pistons. the other was stock every thing with a kb supercharger. both made the same power but the kb made more tq. the kb car was faster.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
TThe force on the cylinder wall, combined with the distance from the crank=tq. All changes in a motor affect this. Bore, stroke, compression, a/f ratio etc. That i agree. the car WAS not faster becuase of more crank tq. For one, both cars are not at peak power the whole time. SO, the one that was faster, had to have produce more power over the given race, in order to be faster. IF they made the same power, then they couldnt be faster or slower. The amount of power outputed had to have changed
logic2reason 2 years ago
Thanks for clearing this issue for the dummies in youtube;however, peolpe just need to start reading books before posting stupid comment.
manny9800 1 year ago
"hp sells cars, tq wins races" I guess F1 cars are not meant for racing then, right?
lookagain77 2 years ago
youre right, torque is used for getting a car moving from a stop, horsepower is more use once the car is actually moving. s2k is a road course beast, not a drag car like most people would like to think. you sir are correct in your statement
mynock05 2 years ago
its kinda relative to the cars weight too. F1 cars are basically an engine with wheels lol
kawana87 2 years ago
tq wins races off the line. im a honda fan through and through, i'd take an s2k anyday
repeatRE 2 years ago
One thing about torque. Its the ability of the engine to move something or do work.
Trucks and heavier cars need more torque to push the weight. Light cars dont need as much torque to get them moving.
Thats why big trucks need big engines, because they couldnt haul anything or let alone move with anything smaller.
Alot of torque may be fine on heavy cars like mustangs, but on light cars it can really mess things up.
Godspeed238 2 years ago 3
i can apply lots of tq to something an nothing moves. TQ is a force. When you apply a force over time, then it becomes power. TQ by itsself could be useless, cuase it might not move anything, but can be applied. Power is when you have something moving through time. Such as rpms. Combining the 2, produces a rated power. Your concept of power and tq are so wacked out i can't even begin.... p.m and ill try... cant do it here in under 500 characters
logic2reason 2 years ago
If what you say is true then tq wrenches should be renamed hp wrenches. on the dyno the na car made a little more peak hp than the supercharged car, but in a a race the super charged car one every time and by a fair bit. tq gets you moving and hp keeps you going. if the race was from a roll it would have been closer but from a stop the supercharged car one every single time. and its because he make all of his tq instantly from 2000 to 5000 then it fades off where the hp is still coming on.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
tq wrenches make tq. its not rated as rotations of tq per time is it smart ass? And i hate to tell you, but i do not care what bullshit you think you know about the scenario... clearly you have not taken any power or energy classes such as a mechanical engineering class as such. If both cars weight the same, and one was faster, then the power output over time for the faster one was higher. it cannot be any other way. learn thermo. Im done arguing with cattle.
logic2reason 2 years ago
actually I know what I know because I went to automotive tech school and that's what they teach, also forgot to mention changing gear ratio will change amout of tq to the ground, this does not change power out put it simply multiply's the engines tq to the ground, the more gear reduction you have the faster it accelerates out of the hole to a certain point, a good example of this was when i had an old 5.0, it had 273 diff gears, i changed them for 373's and the car droped a full sec in the 1/4
ORIANA250 2 years ago
i am aware of tq increase through gear reduction...
the amount of tq able to be produce at any given gear ratio ect is based on hp production. If you disagree then you disagree with every thermo law there is, and thus engineers in general..
Do you think a 20hp water pump can produce more water pressure than a 30hp pump? same goes with a car. more hp more acceleration... if you think more tq, lowering rpm but same hp does more work, then your a moron and should retake all your classes
logic2reason 2 years ago 4
whats the name of your book.
fdrx7100 2 years ago
if you apply tq to any thing it will rotate provided that you apply enough tq to overcome the weight of the object. if you apply alot of tq to some thing light it will rotate fast, if its heavy it will move slow.
back to my example of a semi truck, on the dyno they make 500 hp and 2800 ft tq depending on the tune, another truck with the same engine can make the same hp but only have 1800 ft tq. the one with 2800 will accel faster.
ORIANA250 2 years ago
the one with 2800 is only accelerating faster becuase the hp output over time is higher.... your arguments are so damn scrrewed up i dont know where to start. IF they make different tq outputs but same hp, then the rpm range is different. So clearly you have a gearing issue. just becuase the PEAK power is the same, does not mean the power output at all times is the same. the one thats faster is outputting more power over time...
logic2reason 2 years ago
Your idea of tq and hp is completely reversed.
ORIANA250 2 years ago 2
WEll either your wrong, or the 9,800 pages in my books are.... ill play it safe and believe the pages... thanks though
logic2reason 2 years ago
your book is dead wrong. maybe pick up an automotive tech book, any one of thousands and they will all say the same thing I'm saying. or may be buy a car and start experimenting with bolting on different parts and you will get the results I am talking about,unless of course you pic a honda. pic any other brand name of car and you will get the results I am talking about.
ORIANA250 2 years ago 2
where do you think the information came from to write your automotive tech book? ENGINEERING! i have already experimented with cars. and so i guess physics only applies to every other car, but a honda.... lol... good automotive information.. and i hate to say it, but its one thing to read a book, and its another to do speeches and classes on what you already know... thanks for the advice but your the one that doesnt understand power and energy
logic2reason 2 years ago
so what your saying is your right and thousands of ENGINEERS are wrong. I talked to an automotive tech teacher at S.I.A.S.T who also does alot of Performance tuning on vehicles and he told me that the reason honda's make so little tq is because of the way they design there cylander heads.
o by the way what is your book called.
I'm curios enough to read it.
ORIANA250 2 years ago 2
hp is power recieved from air mass per time....... tq is force per air mass per cylinder stroke. small cylinders= small tq.....
its sad you have to get someone elses advice sicne YOU DONT KNOW..
and moron...your the one that is disagreeing with physics, and thus engineers, since engineers study the laws of the universe in a 3 dimensional world.. and the books are downstairs. i could simply search for book titles on line, what would that prove?
logic2reason 2 years ago
whats the name of your book.
fdrx7100 2 years ago
PEAK power is the same, does not mean the power output at all times is the same
thats what we call the tq curve. the tq outbput is much different. in my example both engines have the same redline.
ORIANA250 2 years ago 2
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did you know?....Automatic is better for turbos.
YuyoDrift 2 years ago
how do you figure? explain yourself...
wideopen704 2 years ago
Well, I haven't read all the details fully but basically if you have an Automatic trans, then the boost of a turbo is at it's max due to never releasing for a shift like one would do in a manual vehicle.
In a manual vehicle, when you shift, you release all boost from the turbo and the spooling has to build up again, but in an Auto you don't release that pressure during shift and so it's at a constant.
Not saying Auto is any better, just for forced induction purposes.
YuyoDrift 2 years ago
well that is true, when you take your foot off the accelerator you do lose boost momentarily. You can either powershift or flatshift but neither of those are good to do on a frequent basis. You don't really want a full automatic, a trick advanced gearbox like lamborghini's egear, ferraris f1, and the volkswagen dsg would be a good one to use for boost applications but they only put dsgs on turbo applications because lambo and ferrari use big naturally aspirated motors.
wideopen704 2 years ago 3
Ahhh....thanks for the new info.
YuyoDrift 2 years ago
only true if you're looking to go fast in a straight line...
bmxrhino5 2 years ago
yeah I know I've heard of those trans that have only 2 gears. think I saw a vid of a supra with one of those transmissions
YuyoDrift 2 years ago
the gtr is
snapywrist 2 years ago
it look like a tank its from japan cattle people.
snapywrist 2 years ago
nice whip, but my evo can take it ;-)
NOREGON369 2 years ago
how come it makes such low tq numbers, the hp is practically double the tq why?
NemSSCamaro 2 years ago
because it's a Honda
anthony6151 2 years ago 2
hp=ft-lb of torque (RPM)/5252
(equation for determining horsepower in relation to ft-lbs of tq at a given RPM)
basically since the s2k can rev ridiculously high it allows the car to make good HP by holding a steady torque figure throughout most of its rpms
diesels are sort of the opposite of this car (to help put the equation into perspective) they will have probably 250-300hp but well over 500 ft-lbs of torque. why dont they make lots of HP stock? they rely on lots of torque w little RPM
inkygg 2 years ago
rpm range. lower the power band, the smaller hp/tq ratio. the higher it revs, the higher the hp/tq ratio. the middle ground is 5250
logic2reason 2 years ago
that car scares me.......
AndyRoddick969 3 years ago
The zr1 is barely and i mean barely faster than the gtr. it has a bit over 150 extra horsepower to obtain its numbers. its a great car beautiful, fast, and it carrys on the tradition of v8 power but the skyline is a marvel in its itself because for the money paid if you can somehow find one it's got the most bang for it's buck. im an AWD kinda guy i guess plus i love the sound of a turbo over a super pretty much any day. just my 2 cents. Motortrend rants about them both as being godlike cars
ASOTaroundTHEworld 3 years ago
oh man,look at all this vette fanbois commentin how their vettes are godly under everysingle import vid on youtube LMFAO.
i do like and respect vettes. especially c6 line ups.But its like.....these domestic fanbois didn't had anything to brag over about import from asia and europe for centeries, and then finally c6 z06 came out scoring hot time on drag and track smokin everyone aka their godly savier. now they r all hyped on finally gettin their braggin rights. it looks so chidish 2 me.
shocxy 3 years ago 2
tight
tomfal45867 3 years ago
What size turbo and kit you running?
BlueMetalS2k 3 years ago
what size head gaskit do u need 2 push that kinda boost? does any one know
rafaeljr190 3 years ago
3 mm
blackrob99 3 years ago
regarding goyamalta123... there isn't much that can touch the new zr1. including the new gtr.
mugen112 3 years ago
im just curious but k20b18h22 said that the z06 c6 is the king of the road and that the new GTR couldnt mess wit it??? thats wierd that he failed to mention the the new GTR is THE best track car running times better than the Porsche GT2.....sorry Corvettes are nice but jus cant compete...
goyamalta123 3 years ago 2
But by actually racing using the features of the new GTR, you void the warranty.
Kcisk 3 years ago
what i read had the ZR1 beating the GTR in everything.
averrett 3 years ago
im pretttyyy sure GTR takes it in handling and comfort. because i know vettes arent the best handling cars + ive been in a vette and imo its not the most comfortable car to drive in.and yes im talking about the zr1 and z06, not the older models. plus GTR is cheaper --; plus awd vs rwd. id take awd. 4 seats vs 2? id take 4 seats. im not hating on averrett's comment, im just taking it as a response section. but i think both cars are nice as hell~ zr1 definitely speed demon worthy.
seanbabo15 2 years ago
I was just stating what I had seen. Around the GT-R would be a better car to have with 4 dorrs, an actual trunk, awd, ect. But i was talking as far as racing. Both had equal 0-60 times, vette won in 1/4 mile, track time, slalom, skid pad, so race car = vette. Daily driver with a fam = GTR. I'm more of a fan of RWD over awd myself and V8's. But I agree with your more comfotable car being the GTR, and it's easier to drive it at its limits than the zr1. How did we get on zr1 vs gtr anyway?
averrett 2 years ago
LOl i guess people just love straying off topic xDDDD
seanbabo15 2 years ago 2
fucking sick
signify12 3 years ago
Does a InlinePro turbo kit work on a 2007? If so thats my next mod?
robbussum 3 years ago
I never knew you could get those kind of numbers on stock internals. Changing a head gasket compared to building the bottom end is as easy as changing oil(exaggeration). I think I choose this over a 350z drop top and will be my next car, with turbo of course...
Rtree115 3 years ago
ca-ca
jmaack727 3 years ago
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Is that an automatic
gibsonbaby131 3 years ago
there's no auto for s2000
203132 3 years ago 3
I didnt here any gears switch
gibsonbaby131 3 years ago
his just using one gear.
you can hear gear switching for autos as well...(not exactly the gear..but you know what i mean)
203132 3 years ago
I c sry bout that
gibsonbaby131 3 years ago
that thing is so sexi
iiFknHardstyleii 3 years ago
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my stock Z06 get 28 on the freeway and like 18 on the street and i flooor the shitt out of it. And on a track i will kill a s2k no question turns straights anythingg.. All about and driver..
shitturkk 3 years ago
u better, since u paid all that money over price of s2k. lol u r sayin such a obvious thing like its somekind of braggin right. u DO have a braggin right of gettin pricier car but u shouldnt be comparin with cheaper car. much cheaper infact. LMAO
shocxy 3 years ago
Still a slow car.
My stock Z06 will pound this jap turdlet in the ground.
morlenheim 3 years ago
where's the challenge in going to a dealership and buying a stock car?..anyone can sign a piece of paper to buy a car....not much of a challenge there IMO....btw what kind of mileage do you get in your Z06? The S2000 gets around 28 or so around town ;)
tunedbylorange 3 years ago
yea and i like to see that z06 race that s2000 on a track, the only thing that z06 has is top end and that doesnt go well on a track just a dragstrip
and s2000s have more bhp per liter to begin
and he didnt specify which z06 cuz only the c6 z06 makes 500bhp
k1attackh22 3 years ago
It's still a cool car, and nice to look at, you know, there is always someone bigger and badder out there. I'm sure that there are cars that will destroy dude's Zo-6 up there and he would probably get upset to hear it. Not everything is about outright performance. You can like a car just because you like it. And why not give it some more power? I personally think a 422 HP S2000 with the top down sounds a hell of a lot more FUN than a Z06.
Brennafugg 3 years ago 3
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all the z06 has is top end? rofl i kno a guy with a c6 z06 and he has to feather it in 3rd... its got insane power all throughout the power band... the c6 z06 is the king of the road... bye bye ford gt/gt500, viper, sl65amg, m6, lambo, ferrari 430, r35 skyline an many more...
very nice s2k btw but its not quite ready to take on a c6 z06... but its not far off
k20b18h22 3 years ago
You do know that the 430Scuderia has 520HP compared to the Z06's 505, not to mention the 430 is lighter and will decimate the vette on the corners.
Regardless this is a nice 2000 and would be fun to try sometime.
fiatman82 3 years ago 2
Really, lets do a little math shall we.
S2K- 422whp
Curb weight 2800 pounds
HP/Tonne 301whp
Assuming there is a 15% loss to the rear wheels
Z06-429whp
Curb weight 3200pounds
Hp/tonne 268whp
That s2k would dominate the zo6. Hate to tell you. And btw a 15% loss to the rears is actually a CONSERVATIVE estimate.
Mikew995 3 years ago 2
15% is very consertive for a chevy. Average i think is closer to 20 something.
jtlovett27 3 years ago
That's true and all, but there is one advantage the vette has and that is traction on takeoff. S2K's are too light in the ass end, and its much harder to control while taking off.
1987EvanB 3 years ago
I'll admit the Z06 is one of the best cars out there, but in numerous comparison tests, the new Z06 has fallen to the R35 Skyline, but Fiatman, you are wrong too, the Z06 will beat a F430 on the track and in the straights, but comparing a F430 Scuderia to a Z06? The new ZR1 is the car you should compare a Scuderia to, and btw, the Ferrari still loses.
girtler87 3 years ago
What fuel manangement did you use?
BlueMetalS2k 3 years ago
AEM EMS
tunedbylorange 3 years ago
Is this in Florida? I remember this car. This car, if it is the same one, had an aftermarket hood, carbon fiber with little fascia hood scoops. I think I talked to the guy, driving on Eglin AFB. About a week later I met up with him, they did two highway runs and put a rod through the block. Unfortunate.
SRTShadow 3 years ago
Must be a different car this motor has never blown. The owner is not military... so no you didn't see this car on Eglin
tunedbylorange 3 years ago
HONDA=Torqueless monster
nitrousboy0311 3 years ago 2
a light car like the s2000 does not need tons of torque.
belgradeboy89 3 years ago 5
nice.. what kind of wheels?
evo190 3 years ago
Volk
tunedbylorange 3 years ago
sweeeeeeet
Euphorica 3 years ago
Veilside FTL... Other than that nice car..
veilsidei 3 years ago
dude do you drive on 14psi on the road?
can your motor handle it? stock internals!!
cos i got a boosted s2k with stock internals but im only running 9psi, too afraid ill blow the motor. you reckon i can push out more than 9?
jiinuno 3 years ago
yes with a 3mm head gasket and a good tune, ive seen 25psi with c16 on a stock motor. on average u can run up to 18 or so with a good tune and still drive it daily
FastisFast 3 years ago
yeah bigger gasket is doing it the bodgy way though isnt it? so u reckon stock internals 18psi and ill be fine?? my gear box is about to go already.
jiinuno 3 years ago
Dude, don't listen to that advice...max boost on stock internals should only be max 9 psi. I personally wouldn't go over 7.
The F22C, just like ALL the other honda motors is an open deck design. At the FPS that the pistons are traveling near the 8k redline, you're likely to wobble the cylinders and blow a head gasket.
preludepatrick 3 years ago
i have read that stock f20c's pistons and rods are forged but i think you are right 400whp is too much for a na motor and gearbox.i wish i am wrong though so we can see even more turbocharged s2ks on the road :)
Tzefri84 3 years ago
the f20 and f22c pistons are forged aluminum with steel connecting rods and FRM(Fiber reinforced metal) cylinder walls. The problem is that the deck is not sealed...the cylinders can begin to 'wobble' with high comp/high boost situations which can cause the cylinder to lose contact with the head gasket. Can cause blown head gaskets and much worse.
preludepatrick 3 years ago
and whats the cure to avoid all this??
Tzefri84 3 years ago
Man with the name preludepatrick I would think you would know that the US OBD1 h22a were closed deck and ALL JDM h22a's were closed deck. Haha
ludeman95 3 years ago
what kinda differential do they use on these big hp S2000.. broke my diff with my engine stock..
doctorwheels 4 years ago