The actions of the likes of Bush doesn't represent those of the American people, their are kind & good. I'm a Muslim Saudi, I love everyone, it's politicians that mess things up.
he is an agent of America to deceive the Ummah! they cant defeat us physically so they have to wage ideological war against us to deceive un into being infidels like them' today the hypocrites are opne and no longer and hide it!
@FMafia206 He is known friends with a notorius disseminator of Zionist propaganda, Rabbi Michael Lerner, of Tikkun magazine. He believes the lie that six milllion Jews died in the holohoax, a lie used to justify the murderous conduct of Israel against the Palestians; a lie used to create the evil nation of Israel; and so forth. He goes around the world promoting the US government's version of Islam, "moderate Islam." Read a piece about him by Yusuf Estes.
@hyyata Give me a link to the Yusuf Estes piece. As for him believing the 'lie that six million Jews died in the holocaust' I have one question for you. Are you simply naive or just fucked in the head? There is IRREFUTABLE proof that the Nazi's were responsible for the death of millions of people, not only jews, but gypsies, Jehovah's Witness', catholics, blacks, gays, people with disabilities, and of course they murdered children from Brussels to the west coast of France.
@hyyata There is proof of all of this, don't fall for petty conspiracy theories. There is proof in the extermination camps in Europe, there's proof that Hitler played a huge role in all of this if you read his book 'Mein Kampf', and there is undeniable witness accounts of people who actually survived the holocaust. Are you saying that all of those survivors were brainwashed by Zionist officials or something? The fallacies that you idiots believe in is so farfetched It's no surprise to me
@FMafia206 Hitler had no systematic plan to kill of European Jewry. In fact, the Zionists actively collaborated with the nazis on several occasions. Read Lenni Brenner's book about Zionist collusion with the nazis in World War 2, 51 documents. Also read Roger Garaudy, Harun Yahya, and a host of other writers. Obviously, you have not done much research on this topic, as I have. There were no gas chambers in Aushwitz. Zyklon B was used for delousing purposes, not for extermination.
@FMafia206 Furthermore, even stalwart believers in the holohoax, like that Jew bitch, Deborah Lipstadt, has admitted some of the lies that they put forward, like Jewish bodies being used to make soap as well Jewish skin being used to make lampshades. All a bunch of Jew bullshit.
@hyyata that people are always bashing Muslims for stuff like this. Seriously ppl like you just give the rest of us Muslims horrible misconceptions. Any sane Muslim knows that it happens, because any sane person in general should have enough intellect and common sense to see all the proof of the holocaust, and therefore not be stupid enough to fall for petty conspiracy theories. Even in the Holy Qur'an it says not to fall for conspiracy theories, I could quote the verse if you want.
@FMafia206 These are not conspiracy theories, these are facts. The wild conspiracy theories are the idiots who claim that two building came down in freefall speed due to plane collision. The foolish conpiracy theories are that one sole gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald, was responsible for killing John F. Kennedy. The idiot conspiracy theories are that six million Jews died in the holahoax, when it was impossible for the nazis or anyone else to kill that many.
@FMafia206 Well, I could reciprocate, but with you it is a waste of time. The holohoax is exactly what it is--a lie!!!! If you believe in that lie so much, then explain to me why the number of Jews who supposedly died at Aushwitz was changed. Explain to me why even Jews like, Norman G. Finkelstein, tacitly admit that six million Jews did not die in the holohoax. Explain to me why the truth about the Diary of Anne Fink. It was written in ballpoint pen, which came after 1950.
@hyyata It is shocking that you're actually foolish enough to use Dr. Norman Finkelstein's words to show that the holocaust never happened? You're trying to tell me that I didn't do basic research? You do realize that Norman's parents were in concentration camps don't you? You do realize that many other members of his family were in concentration camps don't you? He has never denied any of those things. It's easy to bring up lone testimonies and use them to generalize a whole event.
@FMafia206 Let's take all your points one at a time, because you have made numerous statements of plain stupidity. First of all, no not all Jews are Zionists. There are courageous Jews like Mark Lain, Benjamin Freedman, Arthur Koestler, and many others I could mention who have blatantly attacked the Zionist power structure in America. And, once again, you have done any research on the truth of the holohoax, as I will prove. The nazis colloborated with the zionists for the purpose
@hyyata of removing Jews from Europe. Read Roger Garaudy's research. Yitzhak Shamir even advocated aligning with the nazis. Even here of the transfer agreement of the havara agreement you pea-brained cockroach. i do not think so, because as I have said you have done no research on the most monstrous lie of the twentieth century.
@hyyata I'm finding it hard to contemplate just how retarded you actually are. First of all, you keep making points that are contradictory to one another, saying how Nazis and Zionists collaborated and yet you're saying that Hitler had nothing to do with the extermination of jews? How stupid can you get? I already know about Zionists so chill the fuck out on that I know what they're up to and how corrupt/selfish they are. Also don't sit there and fucking type about how there are good
@hyyata jews in the world when in your previous comments you were bashing the whole creed not caring about the fact that you were making generalizations. Also, you're not even reading what the fuck I'm saying you narrow minded dim witted irrational piece of shit. Did I ever say that I believed in the whole holocaust story? No, history is always a one sided event and there will always be lies told, but to denie the holocaust happens, and DON'T lie that's what you were implying, is just
@hyyata plain idiocy. Also it doesn't matter if there were gas chambers or not, the method of killing someone is irrelevant when the bottom line is that innocent ppl were killed due to circumstances out of their control. You see all you've done so far is avoided my points and brought up the same half assed arguments that have been used for the past few decades that although they raise questions about who was behind the holocaust they still cannot prove that it did not happen.
@hyyata What you fail to understand is that it doesn't matter if 6 million died, 5 million, 1 million, or even 100,000 died. There is indisputable evidence that the genocide took place and so it doesn't matter how many people died, it happened, and yet what you're trying to imply is that Hitler had nothing to do with those events? You see for conspiracy theorists it's easy to take some pieces of evidence and jump to conclusions about whole events, but they aren't taken seriously because
@FMafia206 So are you agreeing with me that six million Jews didn't die in the holocuast or not? Make up your mind you fuckin idiot. Nobody denies there were camps, but what we in the revisionist camp believe about the holohoax is that there was no systematic campaign to wipe out Jews in Europe and there wasn't. Yes, Jews were rounded up, but as a part of the transfer agreement between the nazis and the zionists. In fact, many of the guards at the camps were Jews themselves.
@hyyata all their evidences just raise many more questions. Another reason why you obviously should not and can not be taken seriously is because you are generalizing Jews, and you're also trying to say that all Jews are Zionists. There is a fine line between the two. I know that Zionists are filth, but they are different from actual practicing Jews. The problem is that the holocaust DID happen and Zionists are using that for justification of their genocide on the Palestinians.
@FMafia206 No, the holohoax did not happen the way the Zionists say it happened. THat is what we believe in the revisionist camp. Let me clarify more specifically, the holocaust did not happen the way official history says it happened. Yes, there were camps, but no gas chambers to liquidate Jews.
@hyyata As for your comment about the twin towers and JFK, it does not take a genius to realize that 9/11 was an inside job or that JFK was assassinated by political heavy weights, I never denied that. The thing you're doing though is taking one rational conclusion on an event and jumping to conclusions about another (the holocaust) without proper evidence. As for your claims about how Hitler had no plans to exterminate Jews, there are factual historical records and laws from the
@hyyata height of the Nazi's power that still survive today showing the laws that were passed that took away the rights of Jews before the start of the second world war. What about all the ash that was found in the camps that were from cremated bodies? Also are you trying to say that millions of jewish and non jewish eye witnesses lied about the world changing events that took course during world war 2? It's not possible to zionists to have that much influence to be able to control
@FMafia206 Let me ask you this, you once again do not know anything about the holohoax. Have you ever read Robert Faurisson's work on the holohoax? Have you ever read Arthur Butz.? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go back and do some real research little boy!!!!!!!
@hyyata Keep in mind I'm not saying that the Zionists had nothing to do with it, they obviously did, but what you said when you were spamming the comment section of videos regarding Hamza Yusuf was that he believed in the 'myth/lies that the holocaust took place'. You were trying to say that it never happened which is why everyone who reads your comments will not be able to take you seriously cause from simple readying your posts it's easy to conclude that you're a fcking retard.
@FMafia206 Also I checked out your channel. What kind of sincere Muslim spams Hamza Yusuf videos with comments like this, and I quote from your channels
"No, lady, or hermaphrodite, or lesbian, or whatever you fuckin are. You are the one brainwashed on cocksuckin Jew propaganda!!!!"
"hamza Jewsuf like to fuck men up their asses. he puts lotion on his cock and he fucks mens' asses all the way. just look at him, he is a faggot, cocksuckin, motherfuckin man!!!!!!!!"
@hyyata"Fuck off asshole, you stupid desertnigger, ragheaded sandnigger son of a motherfuckin bitch. I will never remain silent. Hamaza Jewsuf is a fuckin Mossad agent, and you stupid Arabs are a bunch of fuckin dumbass sandniggers bastards!!!! Fuck Jews, fuck Arabs, Aryan power!!!!!" That is all stuff that you wrote. Man you are so fucking stupid it's not even funny. "Aryan power"? Simple by looking at your channels you can tell that you're a troll, and idiot, and should not be taken
@hyyata seriously. Go to a fucking library, read a fucking book or do something worth while so maybe in a couple of years when you're sitting in your cell and doing some self reflection in regards to why you're such a fucking idiot you will at least be able to say that you tried to get better in the end. although when I look at the comments you write on other videos it's easy to tell that you will probably commit suicide any day now.
@hyyata people like that. Also quoted from your comment "Hitler had no systematic plan to kill of European Jewry. In fact, the Zionists actively collaborated with the nazis on several occasions. Read Lenni Brenner's book about Zionist collusion with the nazis in World War 2". You do realize you just said that Hitler had no plan to kill European Jews while saying right afterwards in the second sentence that his Nazi's(who he led and had firm control over) collaborated with Zionists?
@FMafia206 Its a waste of time dealing with an idiot, who has not only not read anything from Fred Leutcher, Robert Faurisson, Arthur Butz, David Irving, and others who have thoroughly and methodically debunked the lie of the holohoax, which you proudly believe. All the aformentioned names have not only proved that six million Jews did not die in the holohoax, but, in addition, have proven their were no gas chambers and also their was no systematic attempt to kill off European Jewry.
@hyyata You're just repeating the same crap yet again, even though I've already debunked all the shit you said. Insanity is doing the same shit over and over again and expecting different results. You're saying the same shit and each time you just look like an idiot cause your arguments hold no legitimate validity, so I guess you're insane. Answer the questions regarding Hamza Yusuf? If you're so smart and reasonable why would you be posting shit like that on his videos?
@FMafia206 And your feeble continues to rehash the same Zionist lunacy concerning the holohoax. What's wrong, you do not want to come to terms with the truth? How many revisionist authors have you read? You do not know anything about the views that have completely debunked the greatest lie of the twentieth century--the holohoax of European Jewry.
@hyyata Why don't you answer any of my fucking points? You're just repeating the same crap yet again, even though I've already debunked all the shit you said. You're saying the same shit and each time you just look like an idiot cause your arguments hold no legitimate validity, so I guess you're insane. Answer the questions regarding Hamza Yusuf? If you're so smart and reasonable why would you be posting shit like that on his videos?
@hyyata Those authors do not even deny it themselves they just see the flaws with some of the explanations, I already said that they whole of history can never be true. Don't twist the works of hard working people for your own childish conspiracy theories.
@FMafia206 You fuckin moron, those authors put a severe dent in the whole lie that six million died in the holohoax and they also significantly prove that their were no gas chambers at Aushwitz or anywhere else. I once again have proved that you no nothing about holocaust revisionism or the arguments put forward debunking the lies of the organized Jewish community in regards to this lousy hoax. Go back and take some classes in basic history, dickhead!!!!!!!!!!
@hyyata Why don't you answer any of my fucking points? You're just repeating the same crap yet again, even though I've already debunked all the shit you said. You're saying the same shit and each time you just look like an idiot cause your arguments hold no legitimate validity, so I guess you're insane. Answer the questions regarding Hamza Yusuf? If you're so smart and reasonable why would you be posting shit like that on his videos?
@hyyata once again Those authors do not even deny it themselves they just see the flaws with some of the explanations, I already said that they whole of history can never be true. Don't twist the works of hard working people for your own childish conspiracy theories.
Hamza Jewsuf is disinfo agent!!!! We are americans? Note his disinformation. Out of many one, that is the dajjal statement on the satanic dollar bill!!!!!
Allah has not left mankind to wander searching for the correct path,He has revealed the Quran which includes a code for all people to follow,Islam is not just set of beliefs,It is complete way of life which covers all spheres of human activity-the social,economic,political,educational as well as spirtual,Islam enjoins good manners forevery occasion and stresses treating people,paticularly relatives ,neighbors,with kindness,Quran revelation from the Creator of this universe to all huaman beings
@mirzanajib Islam claims that Jesus is a prophet. That is honorable because a prophet is one who prophecies. Unlike Muhammad who prophesized nothing, Jesus did prophesize thus making Him the last prophet. Muslims claim Jesus is not God because He never said, “I am God.” Equally significant, Jesus never said, “I am a prophet” or “I am a man.” The notion Jesus never said, “I am God” makes Him less than God is equated with the notion Jesus never said, “I am a man” makes Him less than a man.
May Allah bless Hamza Yusuf and give him the strength to carry on with his great service for Islam for the rest of his life and may Allah give him more than 100 years. Ameen.
@IslamIstheWayforMe I wish you were right. The YOUTUBE is full of videos where he sits with a Sufi ignorant called Ali Al Jefry while they sit in a room and do sufi Bid'as.
@MARZOOGI Will you stop spreading hate and division among muslims? are you paid by a shaikh to do this? Hamza yusuf does more good for muslims than you can ever imagine. You can't compare yourself with him. Its people like you who spread hate between salafs and others.
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If you have doubts about islam then you will not say it:
Dear God, please force me and all humanity to salvation and to the best religion in your eyes and please let me understand all
religions on the Earth . Dear God, please do these without pain.Dear God, please give to us and Creation everything you know we need it and please force us to take it without pain.
Teach this prayers to others so they put their most important decision in the hands of God.
Very powerfull speach, we shall overcome the discremination, Islamophobia.
Liberty & justice for Palestine for Kashmir for georgia for all.
I condem what the American admenistration have done of killing inosent people in Iraq by lieing to the American people (Iraq have WMD) it was a lie that cost over 5 millions Iraqi's life. That's not the end of it enought is enough. END THE WAR.
what do sunnis do during Muharram (the month when hussain and his followers were martyered) ? i know u don't have ceremonies for it. but do Sunnis do anything and if u do what is it?
what is the sunnis view on intercession and What is intercession to them and from whom would they ask for intercession?
why do sunnis not follow Muhammad's ahlulbayt and instead follow the sahabas more like abu bakr when the prophet on many occasions told us to follow his family?
what do sunnis do during Muharram (the month when hussain and his followers were martyered) ? i know u don't have ceremonies for it. but do Sunnis do anything and if u do what is it?
why is aisha so respected and honoured? the prophet had other wives too..n his favourite wife was bibi Khadija.
why do sunnis not follow Muhammad's ahlulbayt and instead follow the sahabas more like abu bakr when the prophet on many occasions told us to follow his family?
Also,today being Int Women's day,it would be worth remembering that Islam gave women the right to earn & keep their earnings;decide to marry/divorce;own/inherit property & be an independent entity in her own right.The curse of Eve doesn't exist in Islam and thus this deep hatred toward women that you plead on Islam is not a true fact.Do not judge all by the yardstick of hatred or poor behaviour of men towards others.Hatred breads hatred so an enlightened outlook is favourable for peace for all.
MEN ARE IN CHARGE OF WOMEN, because Allah hath made the ONE of them to EXCEL THE OTHER...for those from whom ye fear rebellion...SCOURGE THEM..
4.11
Allah directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance): to the MALE, a portion equal to that of TWO FEMALES...
Bukhari 48# 826
..THE PROPHET SAID "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to HALF of that of a man?" The women said "Yes" HE SAID "This is because of THE DEFICIENCY OF A WOMAN'S MIND."
@jontwest Women until Islam did not have any share at all in inheritance.Females were left destitute by male heirs.Until 20th C,women were not even allowed to keep their own earnings in Britain.A ref:Muhamad(SAW) was asked to send his daughter to a Jewish wedding.He said,she is married ask Ali;when Ali was asked,he said ask Fatima for she is a free woman.She decided to go.As 4 being in charge,refer to Torah.Laws r same for Islam but it's how literaly ppl apply these.Taliban does not equal Islam!
So, do you disagree with Qur'an 4.34 on the beating of women? And do you disagree with Qur'an 4.11 on males getting DOUBLE the inheritance of females? And do you disagree with Muhammad saying that women have deficient minds?
Attempting to avoid dealing with these vital points by erroneous claims about British law hundreds of years ago only shows how desperate you are to avoid the truth about Islam. It is an explicitly abusive, killer cult, and I'm sure your own natural morality is far superior.
@jontwest Yes I do disagree with the limitations imposed linguistically in translating verses and do not believe that this is the right translation.Plz do the work in building your own linguistic knowledge base then be clear about debate.Misquoting wrong quotes for one's own benefit leads to the limited vision of life and the world;a common trend btw all fundamentalist, whatever their creed.Muhamad(SAW) sought counsel from his wife Khadija-this shows that he thought her unable to give counsel?
The Islamic texts I gave are approved by the ulema. Similarly, the youtube clips I've collected on Islam preaching the beating of women (scroll the r/h side of my page to the playlist 'Islam violence to women') consists of Islamic clerics.
Since you believe you know better than the ulema, & Islamic clerics, please provide your alternative translations. Or you could stop defending the indefensible. Muhammad was the worst of criminals, & you don't have to spend your life following his garbage.
@jontwest Thanks for the advice on clips.Anyone can make them,knowledged or ill advised.The Koran forbids all sexual intercourse outside the marital bond as sinful, and the punishment is flogging 100 times for those found guilty.Stoning (rajm) as a punishment for adultery is not mentioned in the Koran, so some modernist Muslim scholars like Quran alone Muslim Scholars take the view that stoning to death is not an Islamic law.However,to justify ur beliefs u can choose to believe in who u want!
Since you disputed the Islamic texts I quoted, I asked you to provide your alternative translation. Please do.
Your claim the Qur'an "forbids all sexual intercourse outside the marital bond" is false. Please read Sahih Muslim 8 #3432 which reveals the circumstances where Qur'an 4.24 was invented by Muhammad to allow his criminal gang to RAPE MARRIED WOMEN:
"And all married women (are forbidden unto you) EXCEPT THOSE (CAPTIVES) whom your right hands possess. IT IS A DECREE OF ALLAH FOR YOU."
@jontwest Alt trad was given.As 4 abuse issue,from the Quran:an Nâs 4.119 'O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will.'an Nûr 24.33'... And do not, in order to gain some of the fleeting pleasures of this worldly life, coerce your slave women into whoredom if they are desirous of marriage, and if anyone should coerce them, then, verily, after they have been compelled (to submit in their helplessness), God will be much forgiving, a dispenser of grace (to them).
With respect, the "an Nâs 4.119" you quote is an-Nisa 4.19, and it specifically refers to not inheriting women from your *kinsmen* against their will - a different case from having sex with non-Muslim women *captives* taken during Muhammad's wars. If you read Muslim 8 #3432 you'll understand the distinction between this verse & 4.24.
Similarly, 24.33 says you shouldn't *forcibly* pimp out your slave-girls to be prostitutes, but doesn't prohibit the *owner* raping them - already covered in 4.24.
@jontwest Although if you studied the Ecclesiastical and Deutonomy,you might come 2 similar conclusion bout all Abrahamic faiths.Jesus was a Jew and was known as a rabi and therefore followed the old testament.Hair spliting is a lost cause as what unites us is being human.On a personal note,since u question my morality,it's a little like saying;some of my best friends are black/jewish/muslim.I am human and we do not have to be friends but this is 1 similarity we will have to accept.
Your claim "Jesus...followed the old testament" is wrong. In fact, Jesus spoke *against* the OT in several matters, including the stoning of women. And I do NOT think that whether we stone women to death or not is "hair-splitting" - I'm sickened you do.
Your claim "what unites us is being human" is also wrong - Muslims are explicitly taught not to be friends with non-Muslims - a fact in the Qur'an (5.51), and in youtube clips, and admitted by Muslims in youtube discussions I can direct you to.
@jontwest (Matt. 5:17), "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill." What Law of the Prophets is Jesus talking about?Muhamad made the same claim. Moses,Jesus,Abraham,David etc r not denied in Islam.Stoning any1 to death is wrong & what ppl through rigid patriarchal systems do is wrong.I sense ur emotionality n if it's a debate u wish 2 maintain,plz refrain from personal attacks.Else let's agree 2 disagree.Lakum deenukum Waliya deen!
@ZainabRamjiMirza I'm glad you agree "Stoning any1 to death is wrong". I meant no personal attack, but I've seen stonings, and I must admit anyone who thinks they're no big deal sickens me.
Bukhari 60 #79
'...THE PROPHET ORDERED THE TWO ADULTERERS to be STONED TO DEATH, and they were stoned to death near the place where biers used to be placed near the Mosque. I saw her companion (i.e. the adulterer) bowing over her so as to protect her from the stones.'
@jontwest In our view the man who rapes a woman, regardless of whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a "dowry" like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case. (Imam Maalik, Al-Muwatta', Volume 2, page 734).
@jontwest Any form of violence abhors me.It doesn't mean that if any1 I loved were attacked,I wouldn't protect them;I don't normaly resort 2 violence,swearing,bad behaviour.I am Muslim & this doesn't sit in anyway against my faith.I abhor patriarchal societies everywhere that repress women's rights but i don't think it's the teachings that r wrong rather that the understanding of teaching is poor.I am a teacher & if some of my students don't apply my lesson,does it make my teaching & me wrong?
@jontwest I must thank you as I have been recovering from cancer and have been rather ill and weak thus unable to write of late.This dialogue has helped me re-shape my confidence and help me get better so Allah bless you for that.I don't ordinarily have any youtube time at all.Nor do I engage in arguments but this has been useful.I know you will continue to believe what u do but I would urge you not to paint everyone with the same brush stroke.May peace be with you.
@ZainabRamjiMirza I've very sorry to hear you've been ill, and hope your recovery continues apace. Good luck to you! Discussions can be an interesting diversion & an opportunity to learn, but they can also be upsetting, & I'll stop replying to your posts if so.
I realize now with your illness some questions I've asked you might pass you by. I wonder if you could give me *your* translation of these of Islam's texts: Qur'an 4.34, & 4.11, and also, the hadith of Bukhari 48 #826, & Muslim 8 #3432.
@jontwest, 4:34“Men r the support of women as God gives some more means than others, & coz they spend of their wealth (2 provide for them). So women who r virtuous r obedient 2 God &guard the hidden as God has guarded it. As for women you feel r averse, talk to them persuasively; then leave them alone in bed (without molesting them) & go to bed with them (when they are willing). .”(Source: Al-Qur'an: A Contemporary Translation, Princeton University Press, 1988: 78-79)
expl note on his translation of verse: “4 the 3 words fa'izu, wahjaru, and wadribu in the original, translated here 'talk 2 them suasively,' 'leave them alone (in bed - fi'l-madage'),' & 'have intercourse', resp,c Raghib, Lisan al-'Arab, and Zamakhsari. Raghib in his Al-Mufridat fi Gharib al-Qur'an gives meanings of words with special ref to this verse. Fa-'izu, he says, means to 'to talk to them so persuasively as to melt their hearts.'C also v.63 of Surah where it is in similar sense.)
@jontwest Thank you for your good wishes.I must say however that I have no knowledge of Bukhari as the Hadith I have follow must b more rigourous than some in Bukhari.When I was young,my father taught me reading btw the lines was a major skill in life.To this day,not only do I teach that 2 my students but actually make it a point to read btw lines in order to understand life's meaning.Literal belief leads to regression in my opinion & is a cause of division.More when I cn-not so gud a day 2day.
Great to see you're so concerned with violence in religious texts. You must be OUTRAGED that only the "religion" of ISLAM still CURRENTLY preaches EXECUTION for apostates, adulterers, homosexuals, atheists and blasphemers!
Similarly, you must be SICKENED by the fact that Islam STILL preaches the beating of women & their 2nd class status, and STILL preaches JIHAD, and STILL preaches that all Jews should be EXECUTED before "Judgment Day". All of us humanitarians must work to dismantle Islam asap.
@cbluver22 are you claiming that Islam *doesn't* preach execution for apostates, adulterers, homosexuals, atheists, and blasphemers? That it *doesn't* preach the beating of disobedient women, jihad, and the ultimate killing of all Jews? That as part of the teachings of jihad, it *doesn't* preach to children to "martyr" themselves?
I've collected hundreds of clips of Islamic clerics preaching these very things on TV, to influence millions of Muslims. Please explain your view.
YOUR ZIONIST CAPITALIST IDEOLOGY IS ALREADY BEEN DISMANTLED AND DECAYING RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. ISLAM IS ENDURING, ETERNAL, UNCHANGED AND UNCHANGING. YOU MAN MADE PERVERSION IS ALREADY RIGOR MORTIS AND IT IS STINKING THE UNIVERSE. WE ARE THE JUSTICE, THE LIBERTY AND FREEDOM AND PEACE THIS WORLD WILL COME TO LOVE. YOUR ZIONAZI PASSE IDEOLOGY WILL BE RELEGATED TO THE DUMPSTER OF HISTORY LIKE THE ILLEGAL ZIONIST STATE.
@glower125 "We are...the PEACE this world will come to love". Peace in Islam? Are you kidding? Ever heard of "jihad"? Executions for Muslims who leave Islam? Executions for "blasphemers" (e.g. the 5.5 BILLION PEOPLE who think Muhammad was a liar)? Executions for homosexuals? Executions for "adulterers"? Executions for atheists?
You're not responsible for inventing Islam, and I would ask you to consider leaving the indoctrination of this obscene murderous filth behind, and rejoin the human race.
“The Builder of Jerusalem is G d,” He and no one else. This is the building that we are awaiting, not the building of a human being, which has no permanence at all... because even the city of Jerusalem will not be built by a human being all the more so the house that is His residence.
It is also explained in the Holy Zohar (part III p. 221a) that the building of the future Temple will be only through G d Himself: “And up to now the first building of the Holy One, Blessed be He did not exist in the world. In a future time it is written:
King Solomon in Song of Songs thrice adjured the "daughters of Jerusalem" not to arouse or bestir the love until it is ready." The Talmud explains That we have been foresworn, by three strong oaths, not to ascend to the Holy Land as a group using force, not to rebel against the governments of countries in which we live, and not by our sins, to prolong the coming of moshiach; as is written in Tractate Kesubos 111a .
There Jeremiah adds in the name of G-d (verses 8 and 9), "Do not let your false prophets among you and your sorcerers seduce you, do not head your dreamers which you cause them to dream. For they speak falsely to you in My name. I did not send them." This too has applied to all the would-be misleaders of Jewry whether they presented themselves as prophets or as sorcerers or as dreamers of national aspirations.
According to an article on the show in the Chicago Tribune, the woman was "undergoing long-term psychiatric treatment," apparently because of her horrible experience. The news paper article is quoted below in its entirety.
On May 1, 1989, the Oprah Winfrey show had as its guest a person who, as a young girl, was forced to participate in a ritual in which a Christian infant was sacrificed. The amazing thing about this guest is that she was not affiliated with some unknown radical blood letting cult, but that She was a Jew.
It is written in the Talmud about the murder of the non-Jew:
1). "It is permitted to take the body and the life of a non-Jew." (Sepher Ikkarim IIIc, 25)
2). "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah (Talmud - Sanhedrin 59b). The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah (Talmud)." (Coschen Hamischpat 425, Hagah 425, 5)
"Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse....."
"A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. "A girl three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse," the words of R. Meir. And sages say, "Three years and one day old."....."
"....The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers in §157 comments on the above quoted commandment of MOSES to kill the Midianite women as well as the male children...."
"....According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, MOSES therefore had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day, because they were "suitable for having sexual relations." [138]...."
And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah , if you should be truthful.
But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.
they attack them with, rocks?????? if you want to see real criminals go to israel....you call killing women, children and the elderly self defense ....because anyone i know would say it's plain cowardice.....israel is a country of land thieves and you can't do or say anything to change that fact......
@1992AIM it is a demonstrable FACT that it is ISLAM which abuses women and children - not Israel, which has laws against targeting civilians. Not only does Islam preach the murder of innocent people, Islam also preaches the murder of MUSLIM heretics (resulting in Sunnis bombing Shi'as for example), and abuses MUSLIM women and children. Please scroll down the r/h side of my channel, and see the playlists 'Islam violence to women', and further down 'Islam abuses children'.
@jontwest do you honestly believe what you are saying, you really thinkisrael does not target civilians and abides by laws and so?????? ......you keep saying the same things over and over again, for the last time, the prophet told his companions when going to war: DO NOT KILL INNOCENTS, if you can't read it off my comment, go read it on the front wall of the red cross foundation, it is hung there....i won't even enter your channel, one that is solely designed to spread hatred and lies.....
Also, you are completely wrong in claiming "israel is a country of land thieves". In fact, Israel exists on the Jews traditional land -where there has NEVER been another nation, other than that of ISRAEL - first founded 3000 years ago - 1600 years BEFORE the Muslim INVADERS.
So, MUHAMMAD was the THIEF of other's lands & goods, & he wrote a justification for his THEFTS into his Qur'an 33.27 And He caused you to inherit THEIR LAND and THEIR HOUSES and THEIR WEALTH, and LAND YE have NOT TRODDEN...
@jontwest the only reason you except isreal is because you dont except the clear prophesy of muhammad in the bible. the jews didnt even except the christ,how would they then have right to a land that was given to them by scripture when they totally deny there own book? they are the ones that have killed and rebelled against every prophet that GOD has sent them. the jews are occupying isreal because of america,not GOD and they know it. it is the zionists in america who place them on a pedestal
@jontwest and no, i am not wrong....israel IS a land of thieves and the land will eventually return to its rightful owners....we have a saying in Arabic that goes: what was taken by force can only be retrieved by force.....Muslims never invaded jerusalem, in fact we were there ever since it was founded, Moses promised Muslims of his age this land......if you meet me and say anything i would say you are a liar...all prophets are accompanied by miracles from God to gain credibility....
You writeof an Arabic saying "what was taken by force can only be retrieved by force". Be careful what you wish for. Muhammad and his followers STOLE EVERYTHING Islam claims for itself today, and he wrote his own value of THEFT into his Qur'an.
Example, Chapter 8 'SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY'
8.1 ...The SPOILS OF WAR belong to Allah and the MESSENGER
And 33.27
And He caused you to inherit THEIR LAND and THEIR HOUSES and THEIR WEALTH, and LAND YE have NOT TRODDEN...
@jontwest the lands that were seized by Muslims at the of the prophet and his companions were originally occupied by the romans and persians....the verses you mentioned talk of bany quraiza and i don't worship a thief i worship the creator of all things, Allah....Muhammad pbuh never killed innocents nor any living thing for that matter except when at war....the verses which you think promote violence in the qur'an are preceded by the words IN WAR or so....if you had read the whole sura.....
'Kinana, the HUSBAND of SAFIYA, had been guardian of the tribe's TREASURES, and he was brought before the Apostle, who asked where they were hidden. But Kinana refused to disclose the place...The Apostle of Allah handed him over to al‑Zubayr saying 'TORTURE HIM until he tells what he knows' and al‑Zubayr kindled a fire on his chest...then the Apostle gave him to Muhammad b. Maslama, who struck off his head.'
@jontwest you would know they were talking about times of war.....the qur'an could have never been invented by man, that's an irrefutable fact, so don't keep going on how it was invented by Muhammad pbuh.......if I learn history, believe me you are the one that needs a history lesson and if you take one you would be spitting on israel instead of worshiping it.....israel IS a land of thieves and murderers.......
"the qur'an could have never been invented by man"? So it was "Allah" who thought he should instruct ALL of humanity, for ALL time, that Muhammad could have sex with his "wives" out of turn?
33.51
Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is NO BLAME on thee...
Bukhari 60, 311
Narrated Aisha:
"...when Allah revealed: (33.51)...I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires."
"Muhammad is..the greatest man to have ever walked the face of the earth". How blind are the indoctrinated.
Abu Dawud 11, 2126
A man..said: I married a virgin woman in her veil. When I entered upon her, I found her pregnant. (I mentioned this to the Prophet). The Prophet (pbuh) said "She will get the dower, for you made her vagina lawful for you. THE CHILD WILL BE YOUR SLAVE. When she has begotten (a child), FLOG HER.."
This is a great man? You don't know ANYONE better than THIS VILE CRIMINAL?
@cbluver22 I'm glad you're so disgusted with Muhammad that you think the hadith must be "false", but in fact it is part of Islam's texts. Hundreds more hadiths demonstrate the gross cruelty, violence, & murderousness of Muhammad which I can quote should you wish.
Please tell me your preferred online source of Islam's texts, and I will direct you where to find the hadiths I quote. Muslims are normal people indoctrinated in Islam without free choice, and yes, most leave when they find the truth.
i don't need any online source. Why? Because I have all the books here with me. But seeing an ignorant fool like trying to come here quoting something you don't know or understand is amusing.
Let me ask you. Do you even know what a hadith is?
" Muslims are normal people indoctrinated in Islam without free choice"
@cbluver22, I presented one hadith - of hundreds extant - demonstrating that ISLAM'S OWN TEXTS expose Muhammad as a vile CRIMINAL. You claimed the hadith was "false" and "twisted", but now you refuse to nominate an online source of Islamic texts where we could resolve the TRUTH of the matter.
I understand you feel Islam is a part of your identity which you're desperate to shield, but you CAN reject its violent and abusive inventor and his teachings, and you will be MORE yourself - not less.
@1992AIM you've already failed to give me a verse of the Qur'an which you believe could only have been written by a "god", and I'm sure you're a better person at heart than Muhammad allows you to be. So why not leave Islam? Try to discover your *own* morality, and you will find that you no longer agree with all of Islam's calls for violence and executions. You're no more responsible for inventing Islam than I am, and you don't have to spend the rest of your life in darkness.
Congratulations for Egypt! - though you seem to think Egyptians will vote in a fascist Islamic party, with Sharia law - chopping people's heads off, hanging gays, stoning women to death, old men marrying little girls etc (a la Muhammad). I don't think the majority of Egyptians share your devout Islamism though - you're more likely to get a something closer to a liberal secular democracy.
Your comment about Palestine makes no sense - there has NEVER been a country called "Palestine". Understand?
@jontwest mark my words, Palestine is next...........Al Aqsa mosque will once more be ours, if not in my days then in my children's or my grandchildren's.............
As you would know, the Al Aqsa mosque was built ON TOP of the most important site for Judaism, 1,700 YEARS after the Temple Mount was first constructed, in an ACT OF CONQUEST. When Muslims finally move out of their 7th century mindset of violence and abuse towards non-Muslims, they will DISMANTLE Al-Aqsa, and rebuild it somewhere NOT on top of another people's important sites.
When Muslims do this they will join 21st century civilization, and will start to get some respect as civilized people.
@jontwest the only way possible for Muslims to gain any respect is to reclaim their stolen lands............ i don't really get your definition of violence since you don't consider the killing and slaughter of women and children in Palestine an act of violence.........
@1992AIM you don't understand. Muhammad was a war-lord, who ADMITTED HE STOLE EVERYTHING HE OWNED from others, and invented his justification for THIEVING in his Qur'an. Why do you continue to follow an overt CRIMINAL? As Muhammad was a thief & invader of OTHER PEOPLE'S LANDS, if you want to return all lands to their original occupants, descendants of MUSLIM INVADERS will have to leave EVERYWHERE. Starting with Israel.
Btw, I NEVER considered "killing and slaughter" non-violent. Do you?
@jontwest Muhamad was actually known as the Sadiq pre-Islam ie the Truthful one.He did not steal nor did he kill and slaughter but he did definetely lift the sword for self protection.Jesus has said,'Turn the other cheek' yet if history be looked at then where have the so called followers of Jesus abided to that truth.If followers are not adhering to the truth,why blame the Prophets of God who only brought His message.Each to their own.Lakum Deeno kum wali ya deen.Qur'an
With respect, you know nothing of Muhammad. To begin - the "Truthful one"?
Bukhari 52:269 ...THE PROPHET SAID "War is DECEIT."
Bukhari 49:857 ..she heard Allah's Apostle saying "He who makes peace between the people by INVENTING GOOD INFORMATION or saying good things, is not a liar."
Muhammad's teaching of LYING influenced 8th c. Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq
"Nine tenths of religion is Taqiyyah (dissimulation)"
"He who conceals his religion has saved it, and he who makes it public has destroyed it."
Next, your claim Muhammad "did not steal". First, his teachings: Sahih Muslim 19,4346
"...the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: If you come to a township (which has SURRENDERED without a formal war) and stay therein, YOU HAVE A SHARE (that will be in the form of an award) in (the PROPERTIES OBTAINED FROM) IT."
Qur'an 8.1 ...The SPOILS OF WAR BELONG TO Allah and THE MESSENGER..
33.27 And He caused you to inherit THEIR LAND and THEIR HOUSES and THEIR WEALTH, and LAND YE HAVE NOT TRODDEN...
..I used to serve Allah's Apostle..I used to hear him saying VERY OFTEN "Oh ALLAH! I seek refuge...from being HEAVILY IN DEBT..The Prophet then brought Safiyya bint Huyai whom he had WON FROM THE WAR BOOTY..
Ibn Ishaq:
Kinana, the HUSBAND OF SAFIYA, had been guardian of the TRIBE'S TREASURES...The Apostle of Allah handed him over to al Zubayr, saying, 'TORTURE HIM until he tells what he knows'
..The PLUNDER of Khaybar, the RICHEST PART of the Hijaz, WAS GREATER THAN ANY BEFORE."
'..The properties abandoned by Banu Nadir were the ones which Allah bestowed upon His Apostle..HE WOULD MEET THE ANNUAL EXPENDITURE OF HIS FAMILY FROM INCOME DERIVED THEREOF, and would spend what remained for purchasing horses and weapons as preparation for JIHAD.'
So Muhammad LIVED OFF THE PROCEEDS OF THEFT & used what was spare to prepare for MORE KILLINGS & THEFT. Modern Muslims are not to blame of course, but need to DISOWN this obscene criminal's value-system.
I sense ur hate towards Muhamad(PBUH) & you r entitled to believe what you wish.This is the truth bout Islam:There is no compulsion in Faith!If quotation be your object then all quotes as you know can be taken out of context and used for whatever one wishes to petition.I would only say that all ill guided fundamentalist-whatever their creed-never reach the Higher Truth.Allah is the protector of His message & messengers,let Him protect them.Believing has no compulion.Cogito ergo sum
@ZainabRamjiMirza you are mistaken thinking I *want* to believe Muhammad was the worst criminal in history. I would much rather think he was a great person. But Islam's OWN TEXTS tell us otherwise - & I have ONLY presented you with ISLAM'S texts.
Your claim "there is no compulsion in Faith" is a lie. What is Islam's penalty for Muslims who want to LEAVE ISLAM'S murderous filth? The penalty is DEATH (confirming Islam IS filth), & I can present dozens of Islamic clerics confirming this FACT.
@jontwest He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Luke 22:36.Would you ay this sits well with the idea of a loving Christ!Again quotes can be manipulated by all-clerics 2.Just as I would take this as Jesus speaking figuratively to his diciples,texts refering to Islam taken out of context is doing similar injustice.Muhamad is a messenger,fundamentalist r misguided in all creeds.Wisdom lies in peace.
You are so ashamed of Islam you can’t even answer my question about Islam teaching the KILLING of Muslims who leave it. Instead you try to divert the discussion onto the Christians' "Jesus". Keep in mind, Christians do NOT believe their Jesus killed thousands of men, do NOT believe he stoned women to death, do NOT believe he preached "jihad", or killing apostates, or killing ANYONE, or "married" a 6 year old girl, or raped women, or stole "booty", or TORTURED people, or traded in SLAVES etc etc.
@ZainabRamjiMirza the fact is, if Muhammad did what he did (as described explicitly in Islam's OWN TEXTS) in a civilized country today - he would be in PRISON with SEVERAL LIFE SENTENCES. The Christians' Jesus would still be considered a good person, even by 21st century ethical standards. There is no comparison between the two - they are complete opposites in EVERY way.
So, why do YOU follow a killer, and his killer cult? An accident of birth, and indoctrination? If so, you are not to blame.
@jontwest Sir,your hatred and belief through tit for tat be the object of your argument,there is no end to such a debate as it is lead by a system of personal belief and not intellect.To me,Moses,Jesus & Muhamad are brethen yet if their follower be intent on creating dissent in this land,there is no cure to that.If history be looked upon,where are cases of stoning,beheading,hatred as you imply in Islamic states such as Cordoba?Many thinkers of the west come from that era of enlightement.
The debate is not "lead by a system of personal belief and not intellect". Facts are facts. You claim "Jesus & Muhammad are brethren", yet the TEXTS tell us the OPPOSITE. E.g. A central belief of the Christians is their Jesus tried to STOP people stoning a woman, saying
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!"
Whereas Sunan Abu-Dawud Hadith 38 #4429
'..THE PROPHET (pbuh) HAD A WOMAN STONED and a pit was dug up to her breasts.'
There are 100s more examples of this DISGRACE to humanity.
@jontwest The fact that your arguments come from people discontent with Islam means your argument is not based on an intellectual level but argument for the sake of it.Crazy fundamentalist r no different as 1 sided argument is nothing more than justification of one's ideas.You mention Mary Magdalen yet you forget the millions of women burned as witches.Taking sides leads to inevitable bias and although I can feel Ayan Hirsi's pain but as an African,I do not share her history.Each to their own!
Again, you didn't answer my point - Jesus & Muhammad are OPPOSITES in their values, as expressed in their respective texts. You seem bright, so how can you be so intentionally blind as to ignore the facts?
As to "women burned as witches", as you might know, Christian religions do NOT preach the burning, or execution, of ANYONE. Islam CURRENTLY preaches the execution of blasphemers (e.g. the 5.5 BILLION PEOPLE in the world who think Muhammad was a LIAR), apostates, gays, adulterers, & atheists.
How can Israel be a "land of thieves" when Israel only exists on the ancient nation of Israel's land? There has only been ONE nation on Israel's land, & that's Israel - first founded 1000 BC. Moreover, the name 'Palestine' was given to the Jews land of Judea when Roman invaders wanted to destroy Jewish nationalism. So the Jews were reluctantly the first "palestinians" anyway. Significantly, there has NEVER been a nation called "Palestine". If you learn history you will be supportive of Israel.
@jontwest What is the difference between how Neberkenezer and the Romans tookover Israel and the way in which Muslims established Islamic rule in Israel. One by rape, pillage, bloodshed, and massacres, and the other by the leader of the Muslims, Umar Ibn Al-Khattab, simply riding in on his horse and peacefully establishing justice. You're going to be extremely angry with whoever is misguiding you.
@jontwest attack them with, rocks???? if you want to see real criminals, go to israel......you call killing women, children and seniors self defense, because anyone i know would say it is plain cowardice........israel is no more than a country of land thieves and there is nothing you can say or do that can change that fact......
@jontwest they attack them with, rocks???? if you want to see real criminals, go to israel......you call killing women, children and seniors self defense, because anyone i know would say it is plain cowardice........israel is no more than a country of land thieves and there is nothing you can say or do that can change that fact......
For all you egoists and ignorant fools that specially come to Islam videos just to write hate I ask you what is wrong with you? you think that you have done your research "Oh he was a rapist Islam is the devils work all Muslims are terrorists." you believe in the media and other ignorant egoists you do "research" and think you are correct YOU are gullible. Please ask yourselves this don't reply to me with hate messages ask your selves do you believe this propaganda? then reply to me!
@imreadyyo26 a "white" Christian? Are you a racist? Are "white" Christians necessarily different from "black" Christians? Strange.
You write "I love all my muslim brothers" - it's a shame Muhammad did NOT. Muhammad taught that MUSLIMS should be KILLED if they weren't following true Islam. This is why the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and the TTP of Pakistan PROUDLY KILL MUSLIMS. If you love Muslims, you should at least be demanding that Muhammad's directives on killing Muslims are trashed.
The actions of the likes of Bush doesn't represent those of the American people, their are kind & good. I'm a Muslim Saudi, I love everyone, it's politicians that mess things up.
lost4ever300 2 weeks ago
if every body was as good as this man, this world could become a much better place!
sarwhaj 1 month ago
he is an agent of America to deceive the Ummah! they cant defeat us physically so they have to wage ideological war against us to deceive un into being infidels like them' today the hypocrites are opne and no longer and hide it!
chekdamize7 3 months ago
@chekdamize7 you must be very very insecure in your 'faith' if you can't cope with dissent, doubt or questions. What are you afraid of?
blueray1969 3 months ago
he never condemns the organized Jewish community of America. He is a disinfo agent
hyyata 3 months ago
Hamza Yusuf is a liar!!!!!!
hyyata 3 months ago
@hyyata how?
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 He is known friends with a notorius disseminator of Zionist propaganda, Rabbi Michael Lerner, of Tikkun magazine. He believes the lie that six milllion Jews died in the holohoax, a lie used to justify the murderous conduct of Israel against the Palestians; a lie used to create the evil nation of Israel; and so forth. He goes around the world promoting the US government's version of Islam, "moderate Islam." Read a piece about him by Yusuf Estes.
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@hyyata Give me a link to the Yusuf Estes piece. As for him believing the 'lie that six million Jews died in the holocaust' I have one question for you. Are you simply naive or just fucked in the head? There is IRREFUTABLE proof that the Nazi's were responsible for the death of millions of people, not only jews, but gypsies, Jehovah's Witness', catholics, blacks, gays, people with disabilities, and of course they murdered children from Brussels to the west coast of France.
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@hyyata There is proof of all of this, don't fall for petty conspiracy theories. There is proof in the extermination camps in Europe, there's proof that Hitler played a huge role in all of this if you read his book 'Mein Kampf', and there is undeniable witness accounts of people who actually survived the holocaust. Are you saying that all of those survivors were brainwashed by Zionist officials or something? The fallacies that you idiots believe in is so farfetched It's no surprise to me
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 Hitler had no systematic plan to kill of European Jewry. In fact, the Zionists actively collaborated with the nazis on several occasions. Read Lenni Brenner's book about Zionist collusion with the nazis in World War 2, 51 documents. Also read Roger Garaudy, Harun Yahya, and a host of other writers. Obviously, you have not done much research on this topic, as I have. There were no gas chambers in Aushwitz. Zyklon B was used for delousing purposes, not for extermination.
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 Furthermore, even stalwart believers in the holohoax, like that Jew bitch, Deborah Lipstadt, has admitted some of the lies that they put forward, like Jewish bodies being used to make soap as well Jewish skin being used to make lampshades. All a bunch of Jew bullshit.
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@hyyata that people are always bashing Muslims for stuff like this. Seriously ppl like you just give the rest of us Muslims horrible misconceptions. Any sane Muslim knows that it happens, because any sane person in general should have enough intellect and common sense to see all the proof of the holocaust, and therefore not be stupid enough to fall for petty conspiracy theories. Even in the Holy Qur'an it says not to fall for conspiracy theories, I could quote the verse if you want.
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 These are not conspiracy theories, these are facts. The wild conspiracy theories are the idiots who claim that two building came down in freefall speed due to plane collision. The foolish conpiracy theories are that one sole gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald, was responsible for killing John F. Kennedy. The idiot conspiracy theories are that six million Jews died in the holahoax, when it was impossible for the nazis or anyone else to kill that many.
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@hyyata Dumb kid.
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 Well, I could reciprocate, but with you it is a waste of time. The holohoax is exactly what it is--a lie!!!! If you believe in that lie so much, then explain to me why the number of Jews who supposedly died at Aushwitz was changed. Explain to me why even Jews like, Norman G. Finkelstein, tacitly admit that six million Jews did not die in the holohoax. Explain to me why the truth about the Diary of Anne Fink. It was written in ballpoint pen, which came after 1950.
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@hyyata It is shocking that you're actually foolish enough to use Dr. Norman Finkelstein's words to show that the holocaust never happened? You're trying to tell me that I didn't do basic research? You do realize that Norman's parents were in concentration camps don't you? You do realize that many other members of his family were in concentration camps don't you? He has never denied any of those things. It's easy to bring up lone testimonies and use them to generalize a whole event.
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 Let's take all your points one at a time, because you have made numerous statements of plain stupidity. First of all, no not all Jews are Zionists. There are courageous Jews like Mark Lain, Benjamin Freedman, Arthur Koestler, and many others I could mention who have blatantly attacked the Zionist power structure in America. And, once again, you have done any research on the truth of the holohoax, as I will prove. The nazis colloborated with the zionists for the purpose
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@hyyata of removing Jews from Europe. Read Roger Garaudy's research. Yitzhak Shamir even advocated aligning with the nazis. Even here of the transfer agreement of the havara agreement you pea-brained cockroach. i do not think so, because as I have said you have done no research on the most monstrous lie of the twentieth century.
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@hyyata I'm finding it hard to contemplate just how retarded you actually are. First of all, you keep making points that are contradictory to one another, saying how Nazis and Zionists collaborated and yet you're saying that Hitler had nothing to do with the extermination of jews? How stupid can you get? I already know about Zionists so chill the fuck out on that I know what they're up to and how corrupt/selfish they are. Also don't sit there and fucking type about how there are good
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@hyyata jews in the world when in your previous comments you were bashing the whole creed not caring about the fact that you were making generalizations. Also, you're not even reading what the fuck I'm saying you narrow minded dim witted irrational piece of shit. Did I ever say that I believed in the whole holocaust story? No, history is always a one sided event and there will always be lies told, but to denie the holocaust happens, and DON'T lie that's what you were implying, is just
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@hyyata plain idiocy. Also it doesn't matter if there were gas chambers or not, the method of killing someone is irrelevant when the bottom line is that innocent ppl were killed due to circumstances out of their control. You see all you've done so far is avoided my points and brought up the same half assed arguments that have been used for the past few decades that although they raise questions about who was behind the holocaust they still cannot prove that it did not happen.
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@hyyata What you fail to understand is that it doesn't matter if 6 million died, 5 million, 1 million, or even 100,000 died. There is indisputable evidence that the genocide took place and so it doesn't matter how many people died, it happened, and yet what you're trying to imply is that Hitler had nothing to do with those events? You see for conspiracy theorists it's easy to take some pieces of evidence and jump to conclusions about whole events, but they aren't taken seriously because
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 So are you agreeing with me that six million Jews didn't die in the holocuast or not? Make up your mind you fuckin idiot. Nobody denies there were camps, but what we in the revisionist camp believe about the holohoax is that there was no systematic campaign to wipe out Jews in Europe and there wasn't. Yes, Jews were rounded up, but as a part of the transfer agreement between the nazis and the zionists. In fact, many of the guards at the camps were Jews themselves.
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@hyyata all their evidences just raise many more questions. Another reason why you obviously should not and can not be taken seriously is because you are generalizing Jews, and you're also trying to say that all Jews are Zionists. There is a fine line between the two. I know that Zionists are filth, but they are different from actual practicing Jews. The problem is that the holocaust DID happen and Zionists are using that for justification of their genocide on the Palestinians.
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 No, the holohoax did not happen the way the Zionists say it happened. THat is what we believe in the revisionist camp. Let me clarify more specifically, the holocaust did not happen the way official history says it happened. Yes, there were camps, but no gas chambers to liquidate Jews.
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@hyyata As for your comment about the twin towers and JFK, it does not take a genius to realize that 9/11 was an inside job or that JFK was assassinated by political heavy weights, I never denied that. The thing you're doing though is taking one rational conclusion on an event and jumping to conclusions about another (the holocaust) without proper evidence. As for your claims about how Hitler had no plans to exterminate Jews, there are factual historical records and laws from the
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@hyyata height of the Nazi's power that still survive today showing the laws that were passed that took away the rights of Jews before the start of the second world war. What about all the ash that was found in the camps that were from cremated bodies? Also are you trying to say that millions of jewish and non jewish eye witnesses lied about the world changing events that took course during world war 2? It's not possible to zionists to have that much influence to be able to control
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 Let me ask you this, you once again do not know anything about the holohoax. Have you ever read Robert Faurisson's work on the holohoax? Have you ever read Arthur Butz.? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go back and do some real research little boy!!!!!!!
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@hyyata Keep in mind I'm not saying that the Zionists had nothing to do with it, they obviously did, but what you said when you were spamming the comment section of videos regarding Hamza Yusuf was that he believed in the 'myth/lies that the holocaust took place'. You were trying to say that it never happened which is why everyone who reads your comments will not be able to take you seriously cause from simple readying your posts it's easy to conclude that you're a fcking retard.
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 Also I checked out your channel. What kind of sincere Muslim spams Hamza Yusuf videos with comments like this, and I quote from your channels
"No, lady, or hermaphrodite, or lesbian, or whatever you fuckin are. You are the one brainwashed on cocksuckin Jew propaganda!!!!"
"hamza Jewsuf like to fuck men up their asses. he puts lotion on his cock and he fucks mens' asses all the way. just look at him, he is a faggot, cocksuckin, motherfuckin man!!!!!!!!"
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@hyyata"Fuck off asshole, you stupid desertnigger, ragheaded sandnigger son of a motherfuckin bitch. I will never remain silent. Hamaza Jewsuf is a fuckin Mossad agent, and you stupid Arabs are a bunch of fuckin dumbass sandniggers bastards!!!! Fuck Jews, fuck Arabs, Aryan power!!!!!" That is all stuff that you wrote. Man you are so fucking stupid it's not even funny. "Aryan power"? Simple by looking at your channels you can tell that you're a troll, and idiot, and should not be taken
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@hyyata seriously. Go to a fucking library, read a fucking book or do something worth while so maybe in a couple of years when you're sitting in your cell and doing some self reflection in regards to why you're such a fucking idiot you will at least be able to say that you tried to get better in the end. although when I look at the comments you write on other videos it's easy to tell that you will probably commit suicide any day now.
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@hyyata people like that. Also quoted from your comment "Hitler had no systematic plan to kill of European Jewry. In fact, the Zionists actively collaborated with the nazis on several occasions. Read Lenni Brenner's book about Zionist collusion with the nazis in World War 2". You do realize you just said that Hitler had no plan to kill European Jews while saying right afterwards in the second sentence that his Nazi's(who he led and had firm control over) collaborated with Zionists?
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 Its a waste of time dealing with an idiot, who has not only not read anything from Fred Leutcher, Robert Faurisson, Arthur Butz, David Irving, and others who have thoroughly and methodically debunked the lie of the holohoax, which you proudly believe. All the aformentioned names have not only proved that six million Jews did not die in the holohoax, but, in addition, have proven their were no gas chambers and also their was no systematic attempt to kill off European Jewry.
hyyata 2 weeks ago
@hyyata You're just repeating the same crap yet again, even though I've already debunked all the shit you said. Insanity is doing the same shit over and over again and expecting different results. You're saying the same shit and each time you just look like an idiot cause your arguments hold no legitimate validity, so I guess you're insane. Answer the questions regarding Hamza Yusuf? If you're so smart and reasonable why would you be posting shit like that on his videos?
FMafia206 2 weeks ago
@FMafia206 And your feeble continues to rehash the same Zionist lunacy concerning the holohoax. What's wrong, you do not want to come to terms with the truth? How many revisionist authors have you read? You do not know anything about the views that have completely debunked the greatest lie of the twentieth century--the holohoax of European Jewry.
hyyata 1 week ago
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@hyyata Why don't you answer any of my fucking points? You're just repeating the same crap yet again, even though I've already debunked all the shit you said. You're saying the same shit and each time you just look like an idiot cause your arguments hold no legitimate validity, so I guess you're insane. Answer the questions regarding Hamza Yusuf? If you're so smart and reasonable why would you be posting shit like that on his videos?
FMafia206 1 week ago
@hyyata Those authors do not even deny it themselves they just see the flaws with some of the explanations, I already said that they whole of history can never be true. Don't twist the works of hard working people for your own childish conspiracy theories.
FMafia206 1 week ago
@FMafia206 You fuckin moron, those authors put a severe dent in the whole lie that six million died in the holohoax and they also significantly prove that their were no gas chambers at Aushwitz or anywhere else. I once again have proved that you no nothing about holocaust revisionism or the arguments put forward debunking the lies of the organized Jewish community in regards to this lousy hoax. Go back and take some classes in basic history, dickhead!!!!!!!!!!
hyyata 1 week ago
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@hyyata Why don't you answer any of my fucking points? You're just repeating the same crap yet again, even though I've already debunked all the shit you said. You're saying the same shit and each time you just look like an idiot cause your arguments hold no legitimate validity, so I guess you're insane. Answer the questions regarding Hamza Yusuf? If you're so smart and reasonable why would you be posting shit like that on his videos?
FMafia206 1 week ago
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@hyyata once again Those authors do not even deny it themselves they just see the flaws with some of the explanations, I already said that they whole of history can never be true. Don't twist the works of hard working people for your own childish conspiracy theories.
FMafia206 1 week ago
Hamza Jewsuf is disinfo agent!!!! We are americans? Note his disinformation. Out of many one, that is the dajjal statement on the satanic dollar bill!!!!!
hyyata 3 months ago
Note, he is praising a devil nation of america, the same country that is killing muslims all over the world!!!!
hyyata 3 months ago
Hamza Yusuf, fuckin faggot cocksuckin man!!!!! Sandbloodyniggers to hell!!!!!!
hyyata 3 months ago
WIll you stupid sandniggers stop listening to this filthy cocksuckin motherfukcin man!!!!!!! He is a fuckin faggot.
hyyata 3 months ago
Allah has not left mankind to wander searching for the correct path,He has revealed the Quran which includes a code for all people to follow,Islam is not just set of beliefs,It is complete way of life which covers all spheres of human activity-the social,economic,political,educational as well as spirtual,Islam enjoins good manners forevery occasion and stresses treating people,paticularly relatives ,neighbors,with kindness,Quran revelation from the Creator of this universe to all huaman beings
mirzanajib 4 months ago
@mirzanajib Islam claims that Jesus is a prophet. That is honorable because a prophet is one who prophecies. Unlike Muhammad who prophesized nothing, Jesus did prophesize thus making Him the last prophet. Muslims claim Jesus is not God because He never said, “I am God.” Equally significant, Jesus never said, “I am a prophet” or “I am a man.” The notion Jesus never said, “I am God” makes Him less than God is equated with the notion Jesus never said, “I am a man” makes Him less than a man.
123dsj123 4 months ago
at the end of the video there is a statement that read:
"opinions expressed do not necessarilly reflect those of MeccaOne Media"
I was disappointed after reading that, what do they stand for then? are they not muslims? who cares what your opinion stand for then.
fredfelosofar 5 months ago
May Allah bless Hamza Yusuf and give him the strength to carry on with his great service for Islam for the rest of his life and may Allah give him more than 100 years. Ameen.
fredfelosofar 5 months ago
He is such a good speaker for Islam. I just wish he were not a Sufi.
MARZOOGI 6 months ago
@MARZOOGI
He's not a sufi
IslamIstheWayforMe 5 months ago
@IslamIstheWayforMe I wish you were right. The YOUTUBE is full of videos where he sits with a Sufi ignorant called Ali Al Jefry while they sit in a room and do sufi Bid'as.
MARZOOGI 5 months ago
@MARZOOGI Will you stop spreading hate and division among muslims? are you paid by a shaikh to do this? Hamza yusuf does more good for muslims than you can ever imagine. You can't compare yourself with him. Its people like you who spread hate between salafs and others.
fredfelosofar 5 months ago
@IslamIstheWayforMe On Wikipedia, it says he is Sunni Islam (Sufism)... funny
Hkhan23 5 months ago
@Hkhan23
Anyone can write anything wikipedia, I could go there right now and write Shia Muslims....funny...
IslamIstheWayforMe 5 months ago
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tigersforchrist 7 months ago
when i grow up... ill be like him.
nobunaga0088 8 months ago
Subhanallah, i wish i could kiss this brother's hands just because he stands for islam and speaks the truth.
koolguy60 8 months ago
If you have doubts about islam then you will not say it:
Dear God, please force me and all humanity to salvation and to the best religion in your eyes and please let me understand all
religions on the Earth . Dear God, please do these without pain.Dear God, please give to us and Creation everything you know we need it and please force us to take it without pain.
Teach this prayers to others so they put their most important decision in the hands of God.
IoanIlieMinaGheorghe 8 months ago
read "the abc to eternal life" from google.
IoanIlieMinaGheorghe 8 months ago
Very powerfull speach, we shall overcome the discremination, Islamophobia.
Liberty & justice for Palestine for Kashmir for georgia for all.
I condem what the American admenistration have done of killing inosent people in Iraq by lieing to the American people (Iraq have WMD) it was a lie that cost over 5 millions Iraqi's life. That's not the end of it enought is enough. END THE WAR.
LogicTalk1 8 months ago
which FACIST OR RACIST OR DOG DIDNT LIK THIE VIDEO....
kamalvahrott 9 months ago
6 dogs who clicked on this video by walking over the keypad
vegeta04 9 months ago
WAS THAT POWERFUL OR WHATT?!?!
theproudONE92 10 months ago
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questions to the sunnis:
what do sunnis do during Muharram (the month when hussain and his followers were martyered) ? i know u don't have ceremonies for it. but do Sunnis do anything and if u do what is it?
what is the sunnis view on intercession and What is intercession to them and from whom would they ask for intercession?
why do sunnis not follow Muhammad's ahlulbayt and instead follow the sahabas more like abu bakr when the prophet on many occasions told us to follow his family?
nefrinhayat 10 months ago
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questions to the sunnis:
what do sunnis do during Muharram (the month when hussain and his followers were martyered) ? i know u don't have ceremonies for it. but do Sunnis do anything and if u do what is it?
why is aisha so respected and honoured? the prophet had other wives too..n his favourite wife was bibi Khadija.
why do sunnis not follow Muhammad's ahlulbayt and instead follow the sahabas more like abu bakr when the prophet on many occasions told us to follow his family?
tnx
nefrinhayat 10 months ago
Also,today being Int Women's day,it would be worth remembering that Islam gave women the right to earn & keep their earnings;decide to marry/divorce;own/inherit property & be an independent entity in her own right.The curse of Eve doesn't exist in Islam and thus this deep hatred toward women that you plead on Islam is not a true fact.Do not judge all by the yardstick of hatred or poor behaviour of men towards others.Hatred breads hatred so an enlightened outlook is favourable for peace for all.
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
The abuse of women taught by Islam:
Qur'an 4.34
MEN ARE IN CHARGE OF WOMEN, because Allah hath made the ONE of them to EXCEL THE OTHER...for those from whom ye fear rebellion...SCOURGE THEM..
4.11
Allah directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance): to the MALE, a portion equal to that of TWO FEMALES...
Bukhari 48# 826
..THE PROPHET SAID "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to HALF of that of a man?" The women said "Yes" HE SAID "This is because of THE DEFICIENCY OF A WOMAN'S MIND."
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest Women until Islam did not have any share at all in inheritance.Females were left destitute by male heirs.Until 20th C,women were not even allowed to keep their own earnings in Britain.A ref:Muhamad(SAW) was asked to send his daughter to a Jewish wedding.He said,she is married ask Ali;when Ali was asked,he said ask Fatima for she is a free woman.She decided to go.As 4 being in charge,refer to Torah.Laws r same for Islam but it's how literaly ppl apply these.Taliban does not equal Islam!
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
So, do you disagree with Qur'an 4.34 on the beating of women? And do you disagree with Qur'an 4.11 on males getting DOUBLE the inheritance of females? And do you disagree with Muhammad saying that women have deficient minds?
Attempting to avoid dealing with these vital points by erroneous claims about British law hundreds of years ago only shows how desperate you are to avoid the truth about Islam. It is an explicitly abusive, killer cult, and I'm sure your own natural morality is far superior.
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest Yes I do disagree with the limitations imposed linguistically in translating verses and do not believe that this is the right translation.Plz do the work in building your own linguistic knowledge base then be clear about debate.Misquoting wrong quotes for one's own benefit leads to the limited vision of life and the world;a common trend btw all fundamentalist, whatever their creed.Muhamad(SAW) sought counsel from his wife Khadija-this shows that he thought her unable to give counsel?
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
The Islamic texts I gave are approved by the ulema. Similarly, the youtube clips I've collected on Islam preaching the beating of women (scroll the r/h side of my page to the playlist 'Islam violence to women') consists of Islamic clerics.
Since you believe you know better than the ulema, & Islamic clerics, please provide your alternative translations. Or you could stop defending the indefensible. Muhammad was the worst of criminals, & you don't have to spend your life following his garbage.
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest Thanks for the advice on clips.Anyone can make them,knowledged or ill advised.The Koran forbids all sexual intercourse outside the marital bond as sinful, and the punishment is flogging 100 times for those found guilty.Stoning (rajm) as a punishment for adultery is not mentioned in the Koran, so some modernist Muslim scholars like Quran alone Muslim Scholars take the view that stoning to death is not an Islamic law.However,to justify ur beliefs u can choose to believe in who u want!
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
Since you disputed the Islamic texts I quoted, I asked you to provide your alternative translation. Please do.
Your claim the Qur'an "forbids all sexual intercourse outside the marital bond" is false. Please read Sahih Muslim 8 #3432 which reveals the circumstances where Qur'an 4.24 was invented by Muhammad to allow his criminal gang to RAPE MARRIED WOMEN:
"And all married women (are forbidden unto you) EXCEPT THOSE (CAPTIVES) whom your right hands possess. IT IS A DECREE OF ALLAH FOR YOU."
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest Alt trad was given.As 4 abuse issue,from the Quran:an Nâs 4.119 'O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will.'an Nûr 24.33'... And do not, in order to gain some of the fleeting pleasures of this worldly life, coerce your slave women into whoredom if they are desirous of marriage, and if anyone should coerce them, then, verily, after they have been compelled (to submit in their helplessness), God will be much forgiving, a dispenser of grace (to them).
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
With respect, the "an Nâs 4.119" you quote is an-Nisa 4.19, and it specifically refers to not inheriting women from your *kinsmen* against their will - a different case from having sex with non-Muslim women *captives* taken during Muhammad's wars. If you read Muslim 8 #3432 you'll understand the distinction between this verse & 4.24.
Similarly, 24.33 says you shouldn't *forcibly* pimp out your slave-girls to be prostitutes, but doesn't prohibit the *owner* raping them - already covered in 4.24.
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest Although if you studied the Ecclesiastical and Deutonomy,you might come 2 similar conclusion bout all Abrahamic faiths.Jesus was a Jew and was known as a rabi and therefore followed the old testament.Hair spliting is a lost cause as what unites us is being human.On a personal note,since u question my morality,it's a little like saying;some of my best friends are black/jewish/muslim.I am human and we do not have to be friends but this is 1 similarity we will have to accept.
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
Your claim "Jesus...followed the old testament" is wrong. In fact, Jesus spoke *against* the OT in several matters, including the stoning of women. And I do NOT think that whether we stone women to death or not is "hair-splitting" - I'm sickened you do.
Your claim "what unites us is being human" is also wrong - Muslims are explicitly taught not to be friends with non-Muslims - a fact in the Qur'an (5.51), and in youtube clips, and admitted by Muslims in youtube discussions I can direct you to.
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest (Matt. 5:17), "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill." What Law of the Prophets is Jesus talking about?Muhamad made the same claim. Moses,Jesus,Abraham,David etc r not denied in Islam.Stoning any1 to death is wrong & what ppl through rigid patriarchal systems do is wrong.I sense ur emotionality n if it's a debate u wish 2 maintain,plz refrain from personal attacks.Else let's agree 2 disagree.Lakum deenukum Waliya deen!
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
@ZainabRamjiMirza I'm glad you agree "Stoning any1 to death is wrong". I meant no personal attack, but I've seen stonings, and I must admit anyone who thinks they're no big deal sickens me.
Bukhari 60 #79
'...THE PROPHET ORDERED THE TWO ADULTERERS to be STONED TO DEATH, and they were stoned to death near the place where biers used to be placed near the Mosque. I saw her companion (i.e. the adulterer) bowing over her so as to protect her from the stones.'
Who is the most merciful person here?
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest In our view the man who rapes a woman, regardless of whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a "dowry" like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case. (Imam Maalik, Al-Muwatta', Volume 2, page 734).
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
@jontwest Any form of violence abhors me.It doesn't mean that if any1 I loved were attacked,I wouldn't protect them;I don't normaly resort 2 violence,swearing,bad behaviour.I am Muslim & this doesn't sit in anyway against my faith.I abhor patriarchal societies everywhere that repress women's rights but i don't think it's the teachings that r wrong rather that the understanding of teaching is poor.I am a teacher & if some of my students don't apply my lesson,does it make my teaching & me wrong?
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
@jontwest I must thank you as I have been recovering from cancer and have been rather ill and weak thus unable to write of late.This dialogue has helped me re-shape my confidence and help me get better so Allah bless you for that.I don't ordinarily have any youtube time at all.Nor do I engage in arguments but this has been useful.I know you will continue to believe what u do but I would urge you not to paint everyone with the same brush stroke.May peace be with you.
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
@ZainabRamjiMirza I've very sorry to hear you've been ill, and hope your recovery continues apace. Good luck to you! Discussions can be an interesting diversion & an opportunity to learn, but they can also be upsetting, & I'll stop replying to your posts if so.
I realize now with your illness some questions I've asked you might pass you by. I wonder if you could give me *your* translation of these of Islam's texts: Qur'an 4.34, & 4.11, and also, the hadith of Bukhari 48 #826, & Muslim 8 #3432.
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest, 4:34“Men r the support of women as God gives some more means than others, & coz they spend of their wealth (2 provide for them). So women who r virtuous r obedient 2 God &guard the hidden as God has guarded it. As for women you feel r averse, talk to them persuasively; then leave them alone in bed (without molesting them) & go to bed with them (when they are willing). .”(Source: Al-Qur'an: A Contemporary Translation, Princeton University Press, 1988: 78-79)
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
expl note on his translation of verse: “4 the 3 words fa'izu, wahjaru, and wadribu in the original, translated here 'talk 2 them suasively,' 'leave them alone (in bed - fi'l-madage'),' & 'have intercourse', resp,c Raghib, Lisan al-'Arab, and Zamakhsari. Raghib in his Al-Mufridat fi Gharib al-Qur'an gives meanings of words with special ref to this verse. Fa-'izu, he says, means to 'to talk to them so persuasively as to melt their hearts.'C also v.63 of Surah where it is in similar sense.)
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
@jontwest Thank you for your good wishes.I must say however that I have no knowledge of Bukhari as the Hadith I have follow must b more rigourous than some in Bukhari.When I was young,my father taught me reading btw the lines was a major skill in life.To this day,not only do I teach that 2 my students but actually make it a point to read btw lines in order to understand life's meaning.Literal belief leads to regression in my opinion & is a cause of division.More when I cn-not so gud a day 2day.
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
Great to see you're so concerned with violence in religious texts. You must be OUTRAGED that only the "religion" of ISLAM still CURRENTLY preaches EXECUTION for apostates, adulterers, homosexuals, atheists and blasphemers!
Similarly, you must be SICKENED by the fact that Islam STILL preaches the beating of women & their 2nd class status, and STILL preaches JIHAD, and STILL preaches that all Jews should be EXECUTED before "Judgment Day". All of us humanitarians must work to dismantle Islam asap.
jontwest 11 months ago
@jontwest Your ignorance is quite sad. The fact that you need to capitalize you words and insult others shows how you pathetic you really are.
" humanitarians must work to dismantle Islam asap."
hehehe good luck!
cbluver22 11 months ago
@cbluver22 are you claiming that Islam *doesn't* preach execution for apostates, adulterers, homosexuals, atheists, and blasphemers? That it *doesn't* preach the beating of disobedient women, jihad, and the ultimate killing of all Jews? That as part of the teachings of jihad, it *doesn't* preach to children to "martyr" themselves?
I've collected hundreds of clips of Islamic clerics preaching these very things on TV, to influence millions of Muslims. Please explain your view.
jontwest 11 months ago
@jontwest LOL
YOUR ZIONIST CAPITALIST IDEOLOGY IS ALREADY BEEN DISMANTLED AND DECAYING RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. ISLAM IS ENDURING, ETERNAL, UNCHANGED AND UNCHANGING. YOU MAN MADE PERVERSION IS ALREADY RIGOR MORTIS AND IT IS STINKING THE UNIVERSE. WE ARE THE JUSTICE, THE LIBERTY AND FREEDOM AND PEACE THIS WORLD WILL COME TO LOVE. YOUR ZIONAZI PASSE IDEOLOGY WILL BE RELEGATED TO THE DUMPSTER OF HISTORY LIKE THE ILLEGAL ZIONIST STATE.
glower125 11 months ago
@glower125 "We are...the PEACE this world will come to love". Peace in Islam? Are you kidding? Ever heard of "jihad"? Executions for Muslims who leave Islam? Executions for "blasphemers" (e.g. the 5.5 BILLION PEOPLE who think Muhammad was a liar)? Executions for homosexuals? Executions for "adulterers"? Executions for atheists?
You're not responsible for inventing Islam, and I would ask you to consider leaving the indoctrination of this obscene murderous filth behind, and rejoin the human race.
jontwest 11 months ago
“The Builder of Jerusalem is G d,” He and no one else. This is the building that we are awaiting, not the building of a human being, which has no permanence at all... because even the city of Jerusalem will not be built by a human being all the more so the house that is His residence.
coolio91a 11 months ago
It is also explained in the Holy Zohar (part III p. 221a) that the building of the future Temple will be only through G d Himself: “And up to now the first building of the Holy One, Blessed be He did not exist in the world. In a future time it is written:
coolio91a 11 months ago
King Solomon in Song of Songs thrice adjured the "daughters of Jerusalem" not to arouse or bestir the love until it is ready." The Talmud explains That we have been foresworn, by three strong oaths, not to ascend to the Holy Land as a group using force, not to rebel against the governments of countries in which we live, and not by our sins, to prolong the coming of moshiach; as is written in Tractate Kesubos 111a .
coolio91a 11 months ago
There Jeremiah adds in the name of G-d (verses 8 and 9), "Do not let your false prophets among you and your sorcerers seduce you, do not head your dreamers which you cause them to dream. For they speak falsely to you in My name. I did not send them." This too has applied to all the would-be misleaders of Jewry whether they presented themselves as prophets or as sorcerers or as dreamers of national aspirations.
coolio91a 11 months ago
According to an article on the show in the Chicago Tribune, the woman was "undergoing long-term psychiatric treatment," apparently because of her horrible experience. The news paper article is quoted below in its entirety.
Jews Protest Sacrifice Tale on Oprah Show
Chicago Tribune, 5/7/89
New York Times News Service
coolio91a 11 months ago
Jewish Ritual Murder
On May 1, 1989, the Oprah Winfrey show had as its guest a person who, as a young girl, was forced to participate in a ritual in which a Christian infant was sacrificed. The amazing thing about this guest is that she was not affiliated with some unknown radical blood letting cult, but that She was a Jew.
coolio91a 11 months ago
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It is written in the Talmud about the murder of the non-Jew:
1). "It is permitted to take the body and the life of a non-Jew." (Sepher Ikkarim IIIc, 25)
2). "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah (Talmud - Sanhedrin 59b). The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah (Talmud)." (Coschen Hamischpat 425, Hagah 425, 5)
coolio91a 11 months ago
1). "If you eat with a non-Jew, it is the same as eating with a dog." (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)
2). "If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant of maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell to the Jew:
?God will replace ?your loss,' just as if one of his oxen or asses had died." (Jore Dea 377, 1)
3). "Sexual intercoms between non-Jews is like intercourse between animals." (Sanhedrin 74b)
coolio91a 11 months ago
4). "A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." (Coschen Hamischpat 405)
5). "The souls of non-Jews come from impure spirits and are called pigs." (Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b)
6). "Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human." (Schene
Luchoth Haberith, p. 250b)
coolio91a 11 months ago
It is written in the Talmud about the murder of the non-Jew:
1). "It is permitted to take the body and the life of a non-Jew." (Sepher Ikkarim IIIc, 25)
2). "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah (Talmud - Sanhedrin 59b). The Christians
belong to the denying ones of the Torah (Talmud)." (Coschen Hamischpat 425, Hagah 425, 5)
coolio91a 11 months ago
2). "If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant of maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell to the Jew:
?God will replace ?your loss,' just as if one of his oxen or asses had died." (Jore Dea 377, 1)
3). "Sexual intercoms between non-Jews is like intercourse between animals." (Sanhedrin 74b)
coolio91a 11 months ago
If you eat with a non-Jew, it is the same as eating with a dog Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b
coolio91a 11 months ago
"Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse....."
"A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. "A girl three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse," the words of R. Meir. And sages say, "Three years and one day old."....."
coolio91a 11 months ago
"....The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers in §157 comments on the above quoted commandment of MOSES to kill the Midianite women as well as the male children...."
"....According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, MOSES therefore had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day, because they were "suitable for having sexual relations." [138]...."
coolio91a 11 months ago
god bless who's doing good deeds and ad vicing peoples.
:->
jabarinsamir 1 year ago
And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah , if you should be truthful.
But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.
1992AIM 1 year ago
We shall overcome despite all the hate and anger.
taamuu1 1 year ago
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We shall overcome
taamuu1 1 year ago
they attack them with, rocks?????? if you want to see real criminals go to israel....you call killing women, children and the elderly self defense ....because anyone i know would say it's plain cowardice.....israel is a country of land thieves and you can't do or say anything to change that fact......
1992AIM 1 year ago
@1992AIM it is a demonstrable FACT that it is ISLAM which abuses women and children - not Israel, which has laws against targeting civilians. Not only does Islam preach the murder of innocent people, Islam also preaches the murder of MUSLIM heretics (resulting in Sunnis bombing Shi'as for example), and abuses MUSLIM women and children. Please scroll down the r/h side of my channel, and see the playlists 'Islam violence to women', and further down 'Islam abuses children'.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest do you honestly believe what you are saying, you really thinkisrael does not target civilians and abides by laws and so?????? ......you keep saying the same things over and over again, for the last time, the prophet told his companions when going to war: DO NOT KILL INNOCENTS, if you can't read it off my comment, go read it on the front wall of the red cross foundation, it is hung there....i won't even enter your channel, one that is solely designed to spread hatred and lies.....
1992AIM 1 year ago
Muhammad MURDERED INNOCENT PEOPLE & so his 'Islam' teaches killing. Example
9:5 ...fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them
8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.
9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day...(even if they are) of the People of the Book...
Islamic terrorists target civilians for killing all over the world because of these teachings, and many Muslims applaud them.
jontwest 1 year ago
Also, you are completely wrong in claiming "israel is a country of land thieves". In fact, Israel exists on the Jews traditional land -where there has NEVER been another nation, other than that of ISRAEL - first founded 3000 years ago - 1600 years BEFORE the Muslim INVADERS.
So, MUHAMMAD was the THIEF of other's lands & goods, & he wrote a justification for his THEFTS into his Qur'an 33.27 And He caused you to inherit THEIR LAND and THEIR HOUSES and THEIR WEALTH, and LAND YE have NOT TRODDEN...
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest the only reason you except isreal is because you dont except the clear prophesy of muhammad in the bible. the jews didnt even except the christ,how would they then have right to a land that was given to them by scripture when they totally deny there own book? they are the ones that have killed and rebelled against every prophet that GOD has sent them. the jews are occupying isreal because of america,not GOD and they know it. it is the zionists in america who place them on a pedestal
imreadyyo26 1 year ago
@imreadyyo26 sorry for the delay responding (away on holidays!). You seem to have been the victim of a terrible education system. Tell me:
When was the original Kingdom of Israel founded?
How many other nations have existed on Israel's land since then?
When was Islam invented?
The hadiths describe Muhammad leading his men on how many "expeditions" against other people?
The hadiths describe what kind of goods/lands and/or people were stolen or captured on these expeditions?
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest and no, i am not wrong....israel IS a land of thieves and the land will eventually return to its rightful owners....we have a saying in Arabic that goes: what was taken by force can only be retrieved by force.....Muslims never invaded jerusalem, in fact we were there ever since it was founded, Moses promised Muslims of his age this land......if you meet me and say anything i would say you are a liar...all prophets are accompanied by miracles from God to gain credibility....
1992AIM 1 year ago
You writeof an Arabic saying "what was taken by force can only be retrieved by force". Be careful what you wish for. Muhammad and his followers STOLE EVERYTHING Islam claims for itself today, and he wrote his own value of THEFT into his Qur'an.
Example, Chapter 8 'SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY'
8.1 ...The SPOILS OF WAR belong to Allah and the MESSENGER
And 33.27
And He caused you to inherit THEIR LAND and THEIR HOUSES and THEIR WEALTH, and LAND YE have NOT TRODDEN...
You don't have to worship a thief.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest the lands that were seized by Muslims at the of the prophet and his companions were originally occupied by the romans and persians....the verses you mentioned talk of bany quraiza and i don't worship a thief i worship the creator of all things, Allah....Muhammad pbuh never killed innocents nor any living thing for that matter except when at war....the verses which you think promote violence in the qur'an are preceded by the words IN WAR or so....if you had read the whole sura.....
1992AIM 1 year ago
Muhammad never killed innocents?
Ibn Ishaq:
'Kinana, the HUSBAND of SAFIYA, had been guardian of the tribe's TREASURES, and he was brought before the Apostle, who asked where they were hidden. But Kinana refused to disclose the place...The Apostle of Allah handed him over to al‑Zubayr saying 'TORTURE HIM until he tells what he knows' and al‑Zubayr kindled a fire on his chest...then the Apostle gave him to Muhammad b. Maslama, who struck off his head.'
Torturer, murderer, thief, rapist of Safiya
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest you would know they were talking about times of war.....the qur'an could have never been invented by man, that's an irrefutable fact, so don't keep going on how it was invented by Muhammad pbuh.......if I learn history, believe me you are the one that needs a history lesson and if you take one you would be spitting on israel instead of worshiping it.....israel IS a land of thieves and murderers.......
1992AIM 1 year ago
"the qur'an could have never been invented by man"? So it was "Allah" who thought he should instruct ALL of humanity, for ALL time, that Muhammad could have sex with his "wives" out of turn?
33.51
Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is NO BLAME on thee...
Bukhari 60, 311
Narrated Aisha:
"...when Allah revealed: (33.51)...I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires."
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest the qur'an is Allah's words to mankind and Muhammad is his messenger and the greatest man to have ever walked the face of the earth.....
1992AIM 1 year ago
"Muhammad is..the greatest man to have ever walked the face of the earth". How blind are the indoctrinated.
Abu Dawud 11, 2126
A man..said: I married a virgin woman in her veil. When I entered upon her, I found her pregnant. (I mentioned this to the Prophet). The Prophet (pbuh) said "She will get the dower, for you made her vagina lawful for you. THE CHILD WILL BE YOUR SLAVE. When she has begotten (a child), FLOG HER.."
This is a great man? You don't know ANYONE better than THIS VILE CRIMINAL?
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
lol, you come here with false and twisted "hadiths" and openly lie to us and expect us to leave Islam?
Is something wrong with you??
cbluver22 1 year ago
@cbluver22 I'm glad you're so disgusted with Muhammad that you think the hadith must be "false", but in fact it is part of Islam's texts. Hundreds more hadiths demonstrate the gross cruelty, violence, & murderousness of Muhammad which I can quote should you wish.
Please tell me your preferred online source of Islam's texts, and I will direct you where to find the hadiths I quote. Muslims are normal people indoctrinated in Islam without free choice, and yes, most leave when they find the truth.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest
i don't need any online source. Why? Because I have all the books here with me. But seeing an ignorant fool like trying to come here quoting something you don't know or understand is amusing.
Let me ask you. Do you even know what a hadith is?
" Muslims are normal people indoctrinated in Islam without free choice"
..okkkkkkkkkkkkk
cbluver22 11 months ago
@cbluver22, I presented one hadith - of hundreds extant - demonstrating that ISLAM'S OWN TEXTS expose Muhammad as a vile CRIMINAL. You claimed the hadith was "false" and "twisted", but now you refuse to nominate an online source of Islamic texts where we could resolve the TRUTH of the matter.
I understand you feel Islam is a part of your identity which you're desperate to shield, but you CAN reject its violent and abusive inventor and his teachings, and you will be MORE yourself - not less.
jontwest 11 months ago
@1992AIM you've already failed to give me a verse of the Qur'an which you believe could only have been written by a "god", and I'm sure you're a better person at heart than Muhammad allows you to be. So why not leave Islam? Try to discover your *own* morality, and you will find that you no longer agree with all of Islam's calls for violence and executions. You're no more responsible for inventing Islam than I am, and you don't have to spend the rest of your life in darkness.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest we are freeing our countries..........PALESTINE will follow shortly insha'Allah............
1992AIM 11 months ago
Congratulations for Egypt! - though you seem to think Egyptians will vote in a fascist Islamic party, with Sharia law - chopping people's heads off, hanging gays, stoning women to death, old men marrying little girls etc (a la Muhammad). I don't think the majority of Egyptians share your devout Islamism though - you're more likely to get a something closer to a liberal secular democracy.
Your comment about Palestine makes no sense - there has NEVER been a country called "Palestine". Understand?
jontwest 11 months ago
@jontwest mark my words, Palestine is next...........Al Aqsa mosque will once more be ours, if not in my days then in my children's or my grandchildren's.............
1992AIM 11 months ago
As you would know, the Al Aqsa mosque was built ON TOP of the most important site for Judaism, 1,700 YEARS after the Temple Mount was first constructed, in an ACT OF CONQUEST. When Muslims finally move out of their 7th century mindset of violence and abuse towards non-Muslims, they will DISMANTLE Al-Aqsa, and rebuild it somewhere NOT on top of another people's important sites.
When Muslims do this they will join 21st century civilization, and will start to get some respect as civilized people.
jontwest 11 months ago
@jontwest the only way possible for Muslims to gain any respect is to reclaim their stolen lands............ i don't really get your definition of violence since you don't consider the killing and slaughter of women and children in Palestine an act of violence.........
1992AIM 11 months ago
@1992AIM you don't understand. Muhammad was a war-lord, who ADMITTED HE STOLE EVERYTHING HE OWNED from others, and invented his justification for THIEVING in his Qur'an. Why do you continue to follow an overt CRIMINAL? As Muhammad was a thief & invader of OTHER PEOPLE'S LANDS, if you want to return all lands to their original occupants, descendants of MUSLIM INVADERS will have to leave EVERYWHERE. Starting with Israel.
Btw, I NEVER considered "killing and slaughter" non-violent. Do you?
jontwest 11 months ago
@jontwest Muhamad was actually known as the Sadiq pre-Islam ie the Truthful one.He did not steal nor did he kill and slaughter but he did definetely lift the sword for self protection.Jesus has said,'Turn the other cheek' yet if history be looked at then where have the so called followers of Jesus abided to that truth.If followers are not adhering to the truth,why blame the Prophets of God who only brought His message.Each to their own.Lakum Deeno kum wali ya deen.Qur'an
ZainabRamjiMirza 11 months ago
With respect, you know nothing of Muhammad. To begin - the "Truthful one"?
Bukhari 52:269 ...THE PROPHET SAID "War is DECEIT."
Bukhari 49:857 ..she heard Allah's Apostle saying "He who makes peace between the people by INVENTING GOOD INFORMATION or saying good things, is not a liar."
Muhammad's teaching of LYING influenced 8th c. Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq
"Nine tenths of religion is Taqiyyah (dissimulation)"
"He who conceals his religion has saved it, and he who makes it public has destroyed it."
jontwest 11 months ago
Next, your claim Muhammad "did not steal". First, his teachings: Sahih Muslim 19,4346
"...the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: If you come to a township (which has SURRENDERED without a formal war) and stay therein, YOU HAVE A SHARE (that will be in the form of an award) in (the PROPERTIES OBTAINED FROM) IT."
Qur'an 8.1 ...The SPOILS OF WAR BELONG TO Allah and THE MESSENGER..
33.27 And He caused you to inherit THEIR LAND and THEIR HOUSES and THEIR WEALTH, and LAND YE HAVE NOT TRODDEN...
jontwest 11 months ago
Bukhari 65:336
..I used to serve Allah's Apostle..I used to hear him saying VERY OFTEN "Oh ALLAH! I seek refuge...from being HEAVILY IN DEBT..The Prophet then brought Safiyya bint Huyai whom he had WON FROM THE WAR BOOTY..
Ibn Ishaq:
Kinana, the HUSBAND OF SAFIYA, had been guardian of the TRIBE'S TREASURES...The Apostle of Allah handed him over to al Zubayr, saying, 'TORTURE HIM until he tells what he knows'
..The PLUNDER of Khaybar, the RICHEST PART of the Hijaz, WAS GREATER THAN ANY BEFORE."
jontwest 11 months ago
Finally, Sahih Muslim 19:4347
'..The properties abandoned by Banu Nadir were the ones which Allah bestowed upon His Apostle..HE WOULD MEET THE ANNUAL EXPENDITURE OF HIS FAMILY FROM INCOME DERIVED THEREOF, and would spend what remained for purchasing horses and weapons as preparation for JIHAD.'
So Muhammad LIVED OFF THE PROCEEDS OF THEFT & used what was spare to prepare for MORE KILLINGS & THEFT. Modern Muslims are not to blame of course, but need to DISOWN this obscene criminal's value-system.
jontwest 11 months ago
I sense ur hate towards Muhamad(PBUH) & you r entitled to believe what you wish.This is the truth bout Islam:There is no compulsion in Faith!If quotation be your object then all quotes as you know can be taken out of context and used for whatever one wishes to petition.I would only say that all ill guided fundamentalist-whatever their creed-never reach the Higher Truth.Allah is the protector of His message & messengers,let Him protect them.Believing has no compulion.Cogito ergo sum
ZainabRamjiMirza 11 months ago
@ZainabRamjiMirza you are mistaken thinking I *want* to believe Muhammad was the worst criminal in history. I would much rather think he was a great person. But Islam's OWN TEXTS tell us otherwise - & I have ONLY presented you with ISLAM'S texts.
Your claim "there is no compulsion in Faith" is a lie. What is Islam's penalty for Muslims who want to LEAVE ISLAM'S murderous filth? The penalty is DEATH (confirming Islam IS filth), & I can present dozens of Islamic clerics confirming this FACT.
jontwest 11 months ago
@jontwest He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Luke 22:36.Would you ay this sits well with the idea of a loving Christ!Again quotes can be manipulated by all-clerics 2.Just as I would take this as Jesus speaking figuratively to his diciples,texts refering to Islam taken out of context is doing similar injustice.Muhamad is a messenger,fundamentalist r misguided in all creeds.Wisdom lies in peace.
ZainabRamjiMirza 11 months ago
You are so ashamed of Islam you can’t even answer my question about Islam teaching the KILLING of Muslims who leave it. Instead you try to divert the discussion onto the Christians' "Jesus". Keep in mind, Christians do NOT believe their Jesus killed thousands of men, do NOT believe he stoned women to death, do NOT believe he preached "jihad", or killing apostates, or killing ANYONE, or "married" a 6 year old girl, or raped women, or stole "booty", or TORTURED people, or traded in SLAVES etc etc.
jontwest 10 months ago
@ZainabRamjiMirza the fact is, if Muhammad did what he did (as described explicitly in Islam's OWN TEXTS) in a civilized country today - he would be in PRISON with SEVERAL LIFE SENTENCES. The Christians' Jesus would still be considered a good person, even by 21st century ethical standards. There is no comparison between the two - they are complete opposites in EVERY way.
So, why do YOU follow a killer, and his killer cult? An accident of birth, and indoctrination? If so, you are not to blame.
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest Sir,your hatred and belief through tit for tat be the object of your argument,there is no end to such a debate as it is lead by a system of personal belief and not intellect.To me,Moses,Jesus & Muhamad are brethen yet if their follower be intent on creating dissent in this land,there is no cure to that.If history be looked upon,where are cases of stoning,beheading,hatred as you imply in Islamic states such as Cordoba?Many thinkers of the west come from that era of enlightement.
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
The debate is not "lead by a system of personal belief and not intellect". Facts are facts. You claim "Jesus & Muhammad are brethren", yet the TEXTS tell us the OPPOSITE. E.g. A central belief of the Christians is their Jesus tried to STOP people stoning a woman, saying
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!"
Whereas Sunan Abu-Dawud Hadith 38 #4429
'..THE PROPHET (pbuh) HAD A WOMAN STONED and a pit was dug up to her breasts.'
There are 100s more examples of this DISGRACE to humanity.
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest The fact that your arguments come from people discontent with Islam means your argument is not based on an intellectual level but argument for the sake of it.Crazy fundamentalist r no different as 1 sided argument is nothing more than justification of one's ideas.You mention Mary Magdalen yet you forget the millions of women burned as witches.Taking sides leads to inevitable bias and although I can feel Ayan Hirsi's pain but as an African,I do not share her history.Each to their own!
ZainabRamjiMirza 10 months ago
Again, you didn't answer my point - Jesus & Muhammad are OPPOSITES in their values, as expressed in their respective texts. You seem bright, so how can you be so intentionally blind as to ignore the facts?
As to "women burned as witches", as you might know, Christian religions do NOT preach the burning, or execution, of ANYONE. Islam CURRENTLY preaches the execution of blasphemers (e.g. the 5.5 BILLION PEOPLE in the world who think Muhammad was a LIAR), apostates, gays, adulterers, & atheists.
jontwest 10 months ago
@jontwest
lol, watch all the videos you want. it's called taking the time to actually read the Quran ; not watching biased videos.
Go to answeringchristianty (dot) com for the answers to ALL the nonsense you posted.
cbluver22 10 months ago
How can Israel be a "land of thieves" when Israel only exists on the ancient nation of Israel's land? There has only been ONE nation on Israel's land, & that's Israel - first founded 1000 BC. Moreover, the name 'Palestine' was given to the Jews land of Judea when Roman invaders wanted to destroy Jewish nationalism. So the Jews were reluctantly the first "palestinians" anyway. Significantly, there has NEVER been a nation called "Palestine". If you learn history you will be supportive of Israel.
jontwest 1 year ago
@jontwest What is the difference between how Neberkenezer and the Romans tookover Israel and the way in which Muslims established Islamic rule in Israel. One by rape, pillage, bloodshed, and massacres, and the other by the leader of the Muslims, Umar Ibn Al-Khattab, simply riding in on his horse and peacefully establishing justice. You're going to be extremely angry with whoever is misguiding you.
tadpoleposition 1 year ago
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@jontwest attack them with, rocks???? if you want to see real criminals, go to israel......you call killing women, children and seniors self defense, because anyone i know would say it is plain cowardice........israel is no more than a country of land thieves and there is nothing you can say or do that can change that fact......
1992AIM 1 year ago
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@jontwest they attack them with, rocks???? if you want to see real criminals, go to israel......you call killing women, children and seniors self defense, because anyone i know would say it is plain cowardice........israel is no more than a country of land thieves and there is nothing you can say or do that can change that fact......
1992AIM 1 year ago
Drink your pepsi and get knowledge and please shut up !!!
hamburg12345 1 year ago
For all you egoists and ignorant fools that specially come to Islam videos just to write hate I ask you what is wrong with you? you think that you have done your research "Oh he was a rapist Islam is the devils work all Muslims are terrorists." you believe in the media and other ignorant egoists you do "research" and think you are correct YOU are gullible. Please ask yourselves this don't reply to me with hate messages ask your selves do you believe this propaganda? then reply to me!
pepsilover96 1 year ago
Dawah American style !
It Rocks.
irfand4 1 year ago
POWERFUL SPEECH... THIS is what I call 'Standing by TRUTH' ~ whether is for OR against own selves !!
Thanks for posting/sharing :)
javee727 1 year ago
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peterarmans 1 year ago
Things should change... you're right. We need to abolish all religions.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
a white christian wouldnt keep it as real as this muslim. truly islam brakes all racial barriers. i love all my muslim brothers.all colours.
imreadyyo26 1 year ago
@imreadyyo26 a "white" Christian? Are you a racist? Are "white" Christians necessarily different from "black" Christians? Strange.
You write "I love all my muslim brothers" - it's a shame Muhammad did NOT. Muhammad taught that MUSLIMS should be KILLED if they weren't following true Islam. This is why the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and the TTP of Pakistan PROUDLY KILL MUSLIMS. If you love Muslims, you should at least be demanding that Muhammad's directives on killing Muslims are trashed.
jontwest 1 year ago