ok, i know im slow. i have seen a few videos on modes and i dont get this. some say that the modes are the same notes played in different position's. but, others say like this one. that they have a raised 6th? is there a good site that shows the positions of each mode?
There are 7 modes for a major scale. Each mode starts from a different note or degree of the scale. starting from the first note it is called Ionian, 2nd is dorian, third is Phrygian, 4th is Lydian, 5th is mixolydian, 6th is aolian, 7th is locrian. The raised notes are when you compare modes. Ionian, Lydian and Mixolydian are major modes Ionian is a major scale, Lydian is a major scale with the fourth note being sharp, Mixo is a major scale with the seventh not being flat. the other modes are
@rachar124 they are all the same u can either playing from the major shapes or use the shapes for each degree like c major or ionian shape will have dorian pattern under it or u can play from the D in the major unlimeted the way u wanna go about it
hahahaha that is hillarious i clicked on this out of curiosity and when he got to dorian and then there was a pause.... i cracked up laughing jesus its soo simple Ionian R234567 Dorian R2b3456b7 Phrygian Rb2b345#5b7 Lydian R23b5567 Mixolydian R23456b7 Aeolian R2b345#5b7 Locrian Rb2b34b5#5b7 basically learn a major scale along the neck (its movable) pay attention to the root learn your circle of 5ths ....and you are done peace
Oh yeah real easy , I must have missed the part about modal harmony , modal chord progressions, tonal centers, modal cadences etc etc
Get a book on harmony ( one not written by a metal guitarist ) eg like the Berklee series or Gordon Delmont) and approach the issue from a point of knowledge. The guy on this video is just spreading his ignorance
harmony is one of those things as humans we pick up naturally unless we are deaf to it...the theory only provides assurance to what our brains are used to from listening to western music anyway.... i agree once you scratch the surface of any subject in music you can dig forever, its a maze of complexity but the basics are basic.....and as such shouldnt be taught wrong there is no excuse.
Yeah. I heard the "piano guy", Public Broadcasting System, piano teacher, say one time, we have to be careful to not work ourselves down into a "black whole" we can not wiggle ourselves out of trying to understand theory to much, or something like that. Its a shame. I have looked at about 30 different utube idiot "learn modes" and not a single one of them really capture the essence of what modes are really about. It is all bad teaching, every single one of them. There is no excuse, as you say.
personally i think thats the easy part, anyone can learn what frets to play its about being able to understand it musically ...i mean otherwise you are just a guitar hero player with a real guitar
All modes are, is the tonic scale, played and emphasizing on a different note.
Dorian mode in the Key of C-Major is playing your C-Major Scale shapes, but starting on and emphasizing the D note.
The Locrian mode in the key of C-Major is playing your C-Major scale shapes, but emphasizing the B note.
You do not need to learn 7 new shapes to learn the modes. You just need to switch which note you are emphasizing to play in a different mode. That is all!
Guitar gurus have been making it look more difficult for a long time... to collect lesson fees I would guess!
airturnip: I met enough guitarists that "do it all by ear" and I can say after 15 years or so they learn to play random garbage at hyperspeed. Theory is critical, but not any more complicated than you make it.
It's because it's not quite that simple. In a vacuum what FirstSnowJ said is true...but in the context of most things you aren't going to be able to super impose a mode by simply emphasizing a different tone in the scale of the key.
he said itll be hard to play live because its all picked, and in another of his videos (it was a teaching one idk which one exactly) he said that is sort of the only thing he can do, im not bashing him, im just saying=]
His solos aren't necessarily very theoretical, and I'm not really a fan of his solos at all due to lack of melody, repeated patterns etc. However, his academic background really shows in the actual songwriting of his band, both riff-wise and arrangement-wise, as well as chord progressions etc. A lot of people judge guitarists based only on their solo playing and I think that's idiotic (not saying you do, as I don't know you personally :)
are really melodic and even of his other songs are just true like music, and thats why i like them. there a unique band, but as much as he can play fast, his study of jazz guitar does not show a bit in his solos. but im a fan of a7x so im not here to bash
If this kind gentleman has to pause to remember these modes, what use will they be? I'm really struggling to understand how not knowing theory hold any musician up. Does anybody know where i can see music theory being applied in a graphic and audio lesson? I'm happy to admit that the only person i know who can play anything the instant he hears it, knows theory inside and out, he has been playing for hours a day for twenty years, and would be able to do this anyway right? or not?
haha dan i knew something went wrong during the lydian and then you said "i screwed this up" and i laughed haha. regardless, very well done man, very helpful thanks a lot.
No you cant. Please stop lying to people. Ig you are playing in a major key, and you play the relative minor, you will still be playing the major scale. You have to be in a minor key to play minor, thats how it works. It wont sound minor over a major progression, because it wont be.
yeah i understand ur point but the question was if i can use a minor scale in a major note.Yes if u know whats happening u know that ull be in the major key anyway but u can play the relative minor u know and that way u can expand ur combinations.But yes its still be a mayor scale but thats another discussion.
You could play the relative minor, as in play the shape i suppose, but it would actually be the major scale since they share notes. It wouldn't sound minor, it would probably sound like your are putting emphasis on the sixth scale degree.
good way of describing modes- especially for beginners who already know the major and minor scale patterns. If you wannna a more advanced modes video, search for "satriani modes". He explains it really well.
I always found it iseaseir thinking of modes as an altered major or minor scale! It's best to knwo all about modes but that's the way I remmebered them!
yes i know i trying to learn the modes , but i remember, a long time ago a watched a video explaining that the modes are altered major . can you recommend me a video that explains it that
what's your amp settings?
jin299 2 years ago
Phrygian - Fridge-ee-an.,, Not fridgen
anonymous564 2 years ago 12
ok, i know im slow. i have seen a few videos on modes and i dont get this. some say that the modes are the same notes played in different position's. but, others say like this one. that they have a raised 6th? is there a good site that shows the positions of each mode?
rachar124 2 years ago
There are 7 modes for a major scale. Each mode starts from a different note or degree of the scale. starting from the first note it is called Ionian, 2nd is dorian, third is Phrygian, 4th is Lydian, 5th is mixolydian, 6th is aolian, 7th is locrian. The raised notes are when you compare modes. Ionian, Lydian and Mixolydian are major modes Ionian is a major scale, Lydian is a major scale with the fourth note being sharp, Mixo is a major scale with the seventh not being flat. the other modes are
bcbenp44 2 years ago 6
@rachar124 they are all the same u can either playing from the major shapes or use the shapes for each degree like c major or ionian shape will have dorian pattern under it or u can play from the D in the major unlimeted the way u wanna go about it
flip3213 1 year ago
Wow i never knew the modes were a big fat secret...
philbertfwog 2 years ago 30
wise ass.
CudBucket 2 years ago
amazin vid it helped me soo much, thanku:):)
Jonnyo12 2 years ago
That Tone is Horrid
joeydahlia 2 years ago 35
oh lordy
OpenString6 2 years ago
what mesaboogie cabinet is that?
mikatarkela89 2 years ago
it's a mesa head with a marshall cabinet
marcelb666 2 years ago
Triple rectifier
bitchslapper12 2 years ago
do we really need the Metal God tone for scales? How distracting,
alichoturko 2 years ago 2
he looks like frank calieno
schnurr31 3 years ago
sacredgeometry 3 years ago
Oh yeah real easy , I must have missed the part about modal harmony , modal chord progressions, tonal centers, modal cadences etc etc
Get a book on harmony ( one not written by a metal guitarist ) eg like the Berklee series or Gordon Delmont) and approach the issue from a point of knowledge. The guy on this video is just spreading his ignorance
wobblingbaby2 2 years ago
harmony is one of those things as humans we pick up naturally unless we are deaf to it...the theory only provides assurance to what our brains are used to from listening to western music anyway.... i agree once you scratch the surface of any subject in music you can dig forever, its a maze of complexity but the basics are basic.....and as such shouldnt be taught wrong there is no excuse.
sacredgeometry 2 years ago
Yeah. I heard the "piano guy", Public Broadcasting System, piano teacher, say one time, we have to be careful to not work ourselves down into a "black whole" we can not wiggle ourselves out of trying to understand theory to much, or something like that. Its a shame. I have looked at about 30 different utube idiot "learn modes" and not a single one of them really capture the essence of what modes are really about. It is all bad teaching, every single one of them. There is no excuse, as you say.
YouSpamTard 2 years ago
the hardest part about learny modes is not learning the modes of a scale but learning the modes as keys in a way
like e lydian and e major 1 note different
shredfix1993 2 years ago
personally i think thats the easy part, anyone can learn what frets to play its about being able to understand it musically ...i mean otherwise you are just a guitar hero player with a real guitar
sacredgeometry 2 years ago
All modes are, is the tonic scale, played and emphasizing on a different note.
Dorian mode in the Key of C-Major is playing your C-Major Scale shapes, but starting on and emphasizing the D note.
The Locrian mode in the key of C-Major is playing your C-Major scale shapes, but emphasizing the B note.
You do not need to learn 7 new shapes to learn the modes. You just need to switch which note you are emphasizing to play in a different mode. That is all!
FirstSnowJ 3 years ago 2
Guitar gurus have been making it look more difficult for a long time... to collect lesson fees I would guess!
airturnip: I met enough guitarists that "do it all by ear" and I can say after 15 years or so they learn to play random garbage at hyperspeed. Theory is critical, but not any more complicated than you make it.
TheElectricHeat 3 years ago
It's because it's not quite that simple. In a vacuum what FirstSnowJ said is true...but in the context of most things you aren't going to be able to super impose a mode by simply emphasizing a different tone in the scale of the key.
emixolydian 2 years ago
yeah but look at guys liek syn gates.
dont get me wrong hes good but hes exactly what electric said.
no theory and no ( i think) melody so sooner or later hes just gona fall
IXGibsonXI 2 years ago
syn knows theory
akrivera 2 years ago
not that I like A7X, but syn attended the Musicians Institute in Hollywood studying jazz guitar. That, and his father played with Frank Zappa.
zeke8402 2 years ago
i know,
but he cant really do much but sweep
for example in the making of scream interview.
he said itll be hard to play live because its all picked, and in another of his videos (it was a teaching one idk which one exactly) he said that is sort of the only thing he can do, im not bashing him, im just saying=]
IXGibsonXI 2 years ago
His solos aren't necessarily very theoretical, and I'm not really a fan of his solos at all due to lack of melody, repeated patterns etc. However, his academic background really shows in the actual songwriting of his band, both riff-wise and arrangement-wise, as well as chord progressions etc. A lot of people judge guitarists based only on their solo playing and I think that's idiotic (not saying you do, as I don't know you personally :)
Ice7String 2 years ago
thats true
but some of there
"ballad"(idk what type of genre they would be)
are really melodic and even of his other songs are just true like music, and thats why i like them. there a unique band, but as much as he can play fast, his study of jazz guitar does not show a bit in his solos. but im a fan of a7x so im not here to bash
IXGibsonXI 2 years ago
alright a simplified versino of this whole lesson is this
ionion = Major scale
dorian= play that same major scale but at the 2nd note
phrygian= start at the 3rd note
lydian= 4th note
mixolydian= 5th note
aeolean= 6th note(relative minor)
locrian= 7th note
its really easier than ur making it out to be
JgwrPw15 3 years ago 4
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sacredgeometry 3 years ago
dork
dethstormpx4 3 years ago
If this kind gentleman has to pause to remember these modes, what use will they be? I'm really struggling to understand how not knowing theory hold any musician up. Does anybody know where i can see music theory being applied in a graphic and audio lesson? I'm happy to admit that the only person i know who can play anything the instant he hears it, knows theory inside and out, he has been playing for hours a day for twenty years, and would be able to do this anyway right? or not?
airturnip 3 years ago
stop being lazy and just learn
yozmosis 3 years ago
modes are just scales of different keys used to solo over chords.thats why they sound different
jimbang 3 years ago
haha dan i knew something went wrong during the lydian and then you said "i screwed this up" and i laughed haha. regardless, very well done man, very helpful thanks a lot.
dspads 3 years ago
bravo DAN, it's very simple and clear now!
LIKANDROMAX 3 years ago
sigh i want to say something bad
puredes 3 years ago
Wow, he almost explains the modes at 8.09 but then he just kept talking about something else. Well, actually he just dropped a hint at that point.
YusefGuitarum 3 years ago
i have a lessons bout modes but it looks diff than this one, is it stil the stndard mode? it confuse me..
helgaperez 3 years ago
paul gilbert has some awesome mode lessons
pinkusroboticus 3 years ago 2
well the ionian fits the major chord if this chord IS the key.else i think it's better to use the lydian mode ( no flat 7 and raised 4th)
Souperlative 3 years ago
so these arnt major or minor scales?
jimguitarman27 3 years ago
can u use the minor scale if ur in a major note??
helgaperez 3 years ago
yes u can!!
u need to use the relative minor of that mayor scale!! try it out. if u need more info send me a msg.
Legnahkra 3 years ago
i need more info
huyiy 3 years ago
No you cant. Please stop lying to people. Ig you are playing in a major key, and you play the relative minor, you will still be playing the major scale. You have to be in a minor key to play minor, thats how it works. It wont sound minor over a major progression, because it wont be.
oregonskateok 3 years ago
yeah i understand ur point but the question was if i can use a minor scale in a major note.Yes if u know whats happening u know that ull be in the major key anyway but u can play the relative minor u know and that way u can expand ur combinations.But yes its still be a mayor scale but thats another discussion.
Legnahkra 3 years ago
You could play the relative minor, as in play the shape i suppose, but it would actually be the major scale since they share notes. It wouldn't sound minor, it would probably sound like your are putting emphasis on the sixth scale degree.
oregonskateok 3 years ago
good way of describing modes- especially for beginners who already know the major and minor scale patterns. If you wannna a more advanced modes video, search for "satriani modes". He explains it really well.
boltonjack 4 years ago
lol "I screwed that up"
Good lesson though.
mustangman2424 4 years ago
i get some idea there thanks!man
juliusjay123 4 years ago
I always found it iseaseir thinking of modes as an altered major or minor scale! It's best to knwo all about modes but that's the way I remmebered them!
Riouken 4 years ago
yes i know i trying to learn the modes , but i remember, a long time ago a watched a video explaining that the modes are altered major . can you recommend me a video that explains it that
pliskinn0089 3 years ago
Great Stuff.
KSiM 5 years ago