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  • point blank SONATAS won .... the only thing casym and any other band can do is bring there A game for the nxt panorama n try to take the title ... whether you felt cheated or not cuz every band must of felt dat way atleast once ... the only thing you can do afta result is jus b ready to take the title from the current champs .. until then wat eva you sayin is jus useless chatter that cant change the result ... DEAL WITH IT!!!

    PANORAMA CHAMPS ,09 (its written in history DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!)

  • Damn ok Sonatasgal, lmfao. And @TheDSforlife iono what you lissenin to cuz this song was anything but shit. You sound like a true Popwell hater and its showing by that ridiculous comment. And the fact that you had to laugh at your own joke means...its...not...funny

  • Sonatas is da people's champs nd da panorama champs.. we came 3rd in 08 which i think was ridiculous cuz 2 me casym deserved 3rd in 08.. and we came back da next yr nd did our best.. we r da 9 time champions.. the most panorama wins in brooklyn.. so get over it.. all this talk ain't even worth it cuz panorama is long and gone and a first and second place winner was crowned.. even wen adlib 1 last yr y'all still wanna bash on us like wtf we didnt win in 08 yet y'all still talkin mess..

  • Now you muss be losing yah cotton picking C*nT,talking that junk,The peoples champs will alaways be CASYM- we earned that title for years. Congrads to popwell and sonatos, i hate to hear yall young pannist talk shit bout pan.go learn to roll

  • Y'all think y'all earned that 4 years..I'm done because panorama is OVER and obviously sonatas won so move on from this smg

  • Smh*

  • ok i must say this was the most boring song i have ever heard in my life.the verse and chorus is fine but everything else is a pack of shit for real, and no popwell could never b smooth he is just him. full of shit music in that big ass head lmbao

  • nd who the hell do u think aardin is.. just a played out fake boogsie.. u wanna say how our song is boring as if casym sounded nice.. like get outta here u expect 2 come with the same shit every yr nd think y'all r automatically gonna win.. panorama was so funny cuz u c where cockiness nd arrogence gets u.. and 2 call yourselves the people's champ oh please.. idk who lied 2 y'all saying that because the crowd cheered 4 every1.. y'all need 2 accept a LOSS for the 3rd yr haha.. nd get over it..

  • Nah old man Popwell got some skills

  • they sound really good. who won this year. also, hey to ryan.

  • all arrangers sound like each other cuz music is an art to be interpreted...this rendition of bandeleros was amazing and sweet... i loveed it...our version of magic drum was different from any other casym panorama song...you juss really have to listen to it...wen it gets on da web den listent and come back with that boogsie talk...boogsie is great but this year his magic drum was weak and ours was strong and although we aint get a win we actually deserved it dosent mean our song was bad

  • Lemme clear the air about this panorama...I am from casy for starters...I feel like we should've won and so did the rest of the pan world...that night sonatas and adlib as well as spectators congratulated me and said no matter wat the judges said we are da champs...next year we will try again like every other band and thass that...think of it this way this year music was so good we have alot to download lol

  • Okay. Saying that Popwell sounds just like Smooth is about as false as saying Arddin sounds like Boogsie (both common statements). If Popwell sounds like anybody, it'd be a combination of Boogsie and Jit - Boogsie, for the structure and chord usage in the jams, and Jit for the EXTENSIVE use of middle pans as well as adherence to the original song's structure. Arddin sounds like a mix of Pro and, OOPS, Smooth - check it, you have plenty tempo, bass-driven jams and CHROMATICS CHROMATICS CHROMATICS

  • Well Hello Hater.Hello Hater,Hello Haterrrr, Please i want you to look up 2000 panorama "My Time". You show me a better arranged or performed tune in this decade in NYC

  • ThAts CASYM 2000 Panorama in NYC - This is the trend that we started, its ashame give is the credit, Somebody had to lead and we did.ORIGANAL

  • I'm sorry, I'm not sure what i said that was "hater" as it looks like I simply put down a musically-informed explanation of two arrangers' distinct styles. Explain what about that is "hater".

  • Ok not to sound arrogant or brash but a wise man recently told me...Sonatas came 1st ADLIB came 2nd and CASYM third...no matter what negative comment you have to say about Sonatas they still won and that's not changing

  • Again, I aint no Hater on Anything, But i aint gone have anybody disrespect my band in which i share my legacy.Every year cant be our year,if so we wont enjoy the blessing of the magic drums.Peace out

  • Nah Homie,One thing bout CASYM the players LEARN SCALES. This is why we performed on world stages,cause we take the time to learn real music.Now Ill give sonatas there credit, but you must know that CASYM ever since about 1995 have been giving you new young players style,elegants, and Performance. EVEn our music style, check out sonotas5:20 s into video. That is CASYM Music. But im gone let them have there championship.Enycebe slow yah role.

  • Actually I stick to my guns about what I said. In the past other New York bands have used fireworks, pyrotechnics, firecrackers, smokescreens, and the like. Even this year Sesame Flyers used confetti during their song, so yeah stage performance does play a huge role. Actually it plays 40 points of a role, the same amount as the arrangement itself. So Sonatas isn't the only band that worked for those 40 but we went more for performance if anything

  • Listen your misunderstanding what a GENERAL PERFORMANCE is. It is a breakdown of 40 points meaning. 12 Points for Interpretation:Ability to creatively execute arrangement and all nuances. 10 points for Dynamics:which is split down the middle 5 for texture and 5 for color. 10 Points for creativity: The artistery and skill with which the ARRANGER modifies the melody and 8 points for Balance: meaning how well the ARRANGER orchestrated the piece. Thats straight from the judges sheet.

  • So where in the general performance section states how well choreographed or how audible a bands singing is? So far i've been here reading all these comments and i have yet to see anyone from ANY BAND say something with substance that has some type of musical reference to it. I know panorama is a show but since when has it turned into a broadway show instead of a musical war? I thought it was more about the pan than the presentation. Hence the term PAN-O-RAMA!!

  • Who cares werry bout ur band not sonatas... U prolly some old man who do soloz for boat rides let us live n breathe... listen listen to the song just listen smh... we run str8 thru the song like its one flow like not like a inexperienced arranger or anything where its broken up n there just ideas from all ova the place.. the man know wat he is doingg..

  • on top of that us learning our song n so forth is because knowing the songs makes it sound better mr pannist..

  • cause every player will kno each n every important phrasing inside out... Sonatas falls in love wit every song every yr whether we win or lose we neva ferget cause we fall in love every yr..

  • das why we are differ and we def kno how to have fun.. panarama is bout having fun too .. das why some of the sweetest songs like pan a minor by Jit... which is one of the best did not win u see how complicated that song was wat kinda fun are they pose have playing dat... u have to enjoy urself cause the end of the day most of us are doing cause of the love for pan.. not because its our life like U!..

  • What are you trying to impliment?Are you trying to say that your arranger is the best arranger out there.He good and deserve his trophy,but how dear you insult other arrangers creativity.Matter of Fact, tell me the notes in the C-minor scale since you so well educated in this pan business

  • that was funny lol

  • On top of that a 10 point spread!? Now i like to give "Jack his jacket," and Sonatas did sound good no doubt about it, but not to beat anyone by 10 points. I've watched the band from in the crowd as well as alot of my other friends and Sonatas performance began to feel over choreographed. There was nothing that was spontaneous and emotional. Maybe im wrong but i know for sure im not the only one who felt that way.

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  • Lmao...jus wasted letters on a ghost..mmmm

  • After listening to Adlib CASYM and Pan Sonatas I have to say that Jit Samaroo and Boogsie has a strong incfluence on the arrangers of those bands. I know you guys are young but check out Renegades "Iron Man" and "Bees Melody" along with Phase 2 "Fire Down Below" and "Pan in Yur Ras". The arrangers took alot of Jit and Boogsies old music and style. I think its time for them to get their own style and way of music to keep pan moving foward.

  • honestly casym cant really complain for the position they recieved either because their magic drums was like a watered down versions to phase 2, and they won many years when they should have lost as well so wat goes around comes around

  • Regardless of who you wanted to win give credit where credit is due because if CASYM won a whole mess of people would be singin a whole new tune so keep yuh bitterness to yuhself. And the point system couldntve been messed up this year, there were seven judges with a hi-lo point system and Sonatas still won by double-digits anyway. Some bands really do work there asses off and some wait till last minute.

  • although i would loove to rant on and on about how much i think CASYM should hav won this panorama, i am also the type of person to giv credit where credit is due.....ADLIB made it real close, but Casym's rhythem won out overall.....we all kno that every single band put alot of hard work and dedication into their songs....but i believe that these two bands made the greatest effort. It was a shame and disappointment to me to see CASYM get 3rd (not the 1st they deserved) and ADLIB get 2nd...

  • HIS BAND BEING MINE TOO IS CASYM

    it really dont matter anymore that they won by the judges retarded point system.

    when they were announced to be the champions so many people in the crowd began to boo.

    people who HATE CASYM told us that we actually deserved this one and adlib wasnt even all that this year...

  • To compare Pan Sonatas to All Stars right after we win panorama suggests that either we copy choreography or copy music from All Stars. Trust me I used to love All Stars but Sonatas is already known as a major heavyweight in New York pan. The only thing Pan Sonatas should be also called are 2009 Panorama Champions...nothing more

  • Much respect tuh allyuh..For reallll.. Ya'll took ova Sterling Place everynight and fuh good reason..I'm def playin wit ya'll next year.. I just don't know how to join...

  • @jelani.. casym does the same thing every year start 2 weeks before panorama and expect to win we worked our asses off NOBODY could say we didnt deserve that win cuz WE DID and about us being like all stars... stop the foolishness just cuz our arranger is from all stars we constantly get compared to them smh go nyam ya granny yo we are not them we are PAN SONATAS... smh just accept that we won nothing can b done about it now the decision is already made.. THIS IS B BAND.. BANDO BANDO all day

  • oh please... do you know when we started? obviously you dont... We also worked our asses off... even if a band didnt win i feel that every band puts in a reasonable amount of work in before they even think about getting on that stage... so saying that you worked your asses off is like saying that the sky is blue and water is clear. and btw LOTS of people said your band didnt deserve that win...

  • oh please yuh self ... for you to compare your hard work the few night before panorama to our hard work for 2 months is nothing like sayin the sky is blue and water is clear ... n every year people doubt the winning band (who ever they may be) or think they should of came in another position... your right i dnt know when you guys started but if you "people champs" bust yuh ass like we did and for as long as we did you might of bin the O9 CHAMPS

  • other bands acting like we CHOSE to learn the remainder of our song when we did, we (the players) had no control over that. secondly i never said we did the same amount of work, i simply made the point that we all work hard when panorama season comes around.

  • @Realtalk01234 there's no need to compare Pan Sonatas to all stars, and its not necessary. Sonatas is sonatas and all stars is all stars there's nothing connecting the two. Nothing against all stars but to say that now is in a way downplaying the name of Pan Sonatas.

    Otherwise Sonatas I'm alredy startin to miss allyuh, bad bad.

    BANDOOOOOOLEEEROOOOOS!!!

  • Honestly, take it as an honour to be associated with All Stars..if you understand who All Stars is in the steelband movement. Its like saying your College basketball team reminds you of the LA Lakers or something

  • Yeah have to say this was a boss arrangement truly deserving on a panorama champion.. You doh have none ah de other bands or what? Would be nice to see or hear dem

  • first of all performance or not adlib was no match for this song or my bands song... there song was over composed and there was so much music that it was jumbled together...my band aka the peoples champs were ur biggest competition this year but congrats on the win nonetheless

  • Go to sleep nah..u be d one missin out...this band is bad...and BTW they r d Panorama Champs...so jus enjoy!..peace.

  • we played and performed our asses off str8 like dat

  • lol i wasz der on de rght..lmao bhut yhu gysz were great

  • lmao okk

  • ur a nobody

  • Fact is we won...end of story. ADLIB gave us a run for our money but we realized that this is a performance not only about pan. We performed our asses off, singing, dancing, etc. Would ADLIB beat us if it was only music alone?... maybe, maybe not. But fact is we did what we had to do and won, so while others were "put to sleep" the judges sure as hell weren't

  • very well said...Job well done Popwell...again to all the rest of bands there is always Next Year

  • im not bitter lol...neva dat...jus bein honest.. thas wat comments r here 4

  • Totally outstanding!!!

  • they look like their havin a lot of fun and have their singin n dancin on poin, but honestly idk how this song won, it is puttin me 2 sleep... Be hapy that you won, but dont b cocky which most of u r!!! enjoy

  • hey i don't kno who u are..but be easy,cuz u sound really bitter...maybe from another band..better luck next year.BABE

  • u guys look like u really enjoyed that u sounded real good 2

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